Monday, 18 November 2024

Centuries of Christian on Christian violence and incoherence unchallenged by Jews and Muslims

4:00  CAROL joins.

5:00  Kawkab's Space

Steelmanning and strawmanning people's arguments

6:00  Nature and essence discussions are stupid.

7:00  When someone talks about married bachelors as if such a thing were possible, you can deduce that they don't know what they are talking about and whatever else they say will be nonsense too.

Catholic ALEX joins.

9:00  The Koran warns Muslims against dividing their religion into sects and rejoicing their own doctrines. quran.com/6/159

10:00  INDEPENDENT MUSLIM joins.

20:00  Idolatry

21:00  Sins

22:00  Who was John?

23:00  Abraham

25:00  God can be inferred from Creation. 

26:00  The crucifixion of Jesus

27:00  Idolatry

28:00  The Koran is the best available guide to humanity.

29:00  Muhammad lost the Battle of Uhud.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Uhud

33:00  Christian are idolaters. 

36:00  Did Jesus claim to be God?

37:00  Muhammad

39:00  The Koran is the best available guide to humanity.

41:00  The Unlettered Prophet

42:00  quran.com/9/29

There is a difference between a battle order and a general principle. 

43:00  Battle orders

44:00  quran.com/2/256 supports the First Amendment.

47:00  EDUCATED BLACK MAN joins.

49:00  Independent Muslim prefers to be a Jew to Christian.

54:00  Children going to hell

56:00  Protestant JANE DUX joins.

58:00  Good arguments

59:00  Our intellect

1:01:00  Maths

Islamic inheritance laws 8, 6, 12, 24

1:02:00  There's only one Abrahamic God.

1:03:00  Christianity is a Jewish psy-op.

The Trinity

1:04:00  Isa

1:05:00  The Koran

1:08:00  Christians conducted the Inquisition.

Muslims gave refuge to Jews persecuted by Christians.

1:09:00  Americans promote war.

1:10:00  George Bush

1:11:00  Every knee will bow. 

Jesus is going to start a war in his Second Coming.

1:13:00  ALI MUSLIM joins.

1:17:00  Neither Trinitarian nor Unitarian Christianity are Biblical. 

1:18:00  Orthodox and Catholic Church

Paul wrote Hebrews.

"Outside the Church, there is no salvation."

John Paul II  on 11 October 1922

Papal infallibility

1:20:00  Catholic schizophrenia

1:21:00  Person essence debate - the Trinity

1:22:00  The use of the second person singular or the second person plural

Conjugation

1:23:00  My solution to the Mystery of the Trinity

Constantine the Great was not a Trinitarian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Thessalonica

1:26:00  Fasting before Communion

1:28:00  Jihad and the Crusades

1:33:00  Kingdom of Heaven

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Heaven_(film)

The Holy Roman Empire

1:34:00  Pope Innocent declared the Crusades.

1:35:00  Reconquista

1:36:00  Christians gave the Holy Land to Jews.

1:37:00  Who controls Jerusalem today?

1:39:00  Israel is a US colony.

1:40:00  Idolatry

1:42:00  Christians have been lied to for centuries.

1:43:00  9/11 and Covid

HARDI joins.

1:50:00  Catholics massacred Orthodox Christians.

The most well-known incident where Catholics massacred Orthodox Christians was during the **Massacre of the Latins** in Constantinople in **April 1182**. This event involved a large-scale massacre of Roman Catholics (referred to as "Latins" because of their Roman Rite) by the Eastern Orthodox population of Constantinople. This massacre was spurred by underlying tensions between the Latin and Greek communities in the Byzantine Empire, exacerbated by political and economic grievances.

Another significant event was the **Sack of Constantinople** in **April 1204** during the Fourth Crusade, where Latin Crusaders, who were supposed to be en route to liberate Jerusalem, instead attacked and looted Constantinople, the capital of the Eastern Orthodox Church. This led to widespread destruction, including the killing of Orthodox Christians, the desecration of religious sites, and a significant impact on the relations between the Catholic and Orthodox Churches.

These incidents highlight moments where violence between the two Christian groups escalated, contributing to the ongoing schism between them.

1:58:00  Kawkab's dawah is not working.

2:00:00  The crucifixion of Christ

2:03:00  Lazarus was resurrected. 

2:04:00  Christians want Jesus to die for their sins.

2:05:00  The corrupt bargain of Christianity

2:06:00  Jews in Israel being converted to Messianic Judaism. 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/27/jerusalem-rabbi-accused-of-being-undercover-christian-missionary

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/outrage-in-jerusalem-over-rabbi-exposed-as-christian-missionary/

2:09:00 Jesus in Islam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_Jesus_praying_behind_Mahdi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming#Islam

2:20:00  Muslims who refuse to make arguments for sharia are guilty of hidden idolatry.

Jews moved back to Israel under the Ottomans who were given a better deal there than in Europe. 

2:22:00  Madkhalism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madkhalism

2:25:00  Sykes-Picot

Iran Iraq War

2:26:00  Military Industrial Complex

Pan Arabism

Federation

2:27:00  Divide and rule

2:28:00  King of Jordan

2:29:00  "We have a government that doesn't care about the American people."

2:30:00  Plant a tree even if you think the world is  about  to end.

2:31:00  Good laws to discourage illegitimacy

2:32:00  Carol's education

Retard school

2:35:00  Phonics

2:36:00  Lieutenant Colonel

Lark Rise to Candleford

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lark_Rise_to_Candleford

2:37:00  Dyslexia

Educational experiments

2:39:00  Natty wanting the government to pay mothers

2:40:00  Marriage is eugenic.

2:41:00  Getting men and women to the negotiating table

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/16/4b-movement-trump-women-media

2:46:00  Catholics and Protestant attitudes towards justice

2:47:00  Sermon or Eucharist

2:49:00  E Michael Jones

https://radicalisedrabbi.blogspot.com/2024/11/e-michael-jones-on-subversiveness-of.html

2:50:00  East/West, North/South divide

2:51:00  Americans saw it as their manifest destiny to conquer and build.

2:52:00  Irish ghettoes

Dearborn, Michigan

2:53:00  13 Colonies and Americans moving West

2:54:00  English immigration

2:56:00  Boat people

2:57:00  Meritocracy

3:02:00  Bill of Rights

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/bill-of-rights-transcript

3:04:00  Freedom of speech is freedom of thought/belief.

3:06:00  If most people in the world believed in the afterlife, their response to Covid would have been different. 

3:09:00  First of Amendment

3:10:00  Judicial Notice of the Holocaust

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/mel-mermelstein-survived-auschwitz-then-sued-holocaust-deniers-court-180970123/

3:16:00  Equality Act 2010, Affirmative Action, discrimination, thoughtcrime

3:21:00  Home schooling 

3:23:00  Ever lowering standards of education

3:25:00  Trump closing down the Education Department

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/20/politics/department-of-education-shut-down-trump/index.html

3:27:00  Youth programmes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_Conservation_Corps

3:31:00  The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grapes_of_Wrath

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