AI fun with Secular Koranism and Vincent Bruno #21 SK China and Russia; planning elderly healthcare

1:00  Kid Rock

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kid_Rock

2:00  Conor McGregor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conor_McGregor

5:00  South Africans

10:00  Political leadership

11:00  Secular Koranism with Chinese Characteristics

17:00  Vincent Bruno is in these stories.

18:00  [Reading begins.]

28:00  Attitude to travelling

33:00  NLC

34:00  American Caliphate

35:00  [Reading begins on Secular Koranism with Russian Characteristics.]

47:00  New definition of Secular Koranism for the new book?

49:00  JAY joins.

50:00  Ageing parents, Dennis Dale

52:00  Bill Maher

53:00  Secular Koranism's policy on the elderly

54:00  Morality and Natural Law

55:00  Punctuality

Dining conventions

56:00  "Neither a borrower nor a lender be" is from Hamlet.

1:04:00  Secular Koranism

1:06:00  "God agrees with me!"

1:07:00  Unpalatable idea

1:08:00  Christianity is a spent force.

1:09:00  Dietary preferences

1:11:00  Green light from the media

A nurse for the elderly

1:13:00  Pneumonia

1:14:00  Dementia

1:15:00  Power of  Attorney

1:16:00  Multigenerational households

https://secularkoranism.blogspot.com

The moral imperative of a state religion

https://t.co/gLWxO3iohy

— Rake’s revenge (@Eagle_force_555) April 1, 2025

5:00  Secular Koranism

23:00  Permanent Residence in Scotland

26:00  Adolescence

46:00  Greenland

49:00  Alaska

50:00  Pitcairn Islands

53:00  Globalisation is over?

56:00  Marriage is eugenic.

"Net Zero is stupid dysgenic shit."

ULEZ 

58:00  Environmentalism is our new religion.

59:00  Carbon emissions is selling indulgences and making sacrifices for the Idol of Climate Change.

David Lammy and private jets

1:00:00  Singapore PM on Singapore Airlines

1:01:00  We are not dying soon enough for our government.

Our average age

1:02:00  The Third Age

1:03:00  The Fourth Age

Bed blocking

1:04:00   Giant Ponzi scheme

1:05:00  Income of £40,000 per annum to be a net tax contributor

1:06:00  Corporation tax and CGT

1:07:00  Blue Sky Research

1:08:00 Dotcom bubble and India

1:12:00  Miners' strike

Rag trade

1:13:00  Deindustrailisation

London

1:16:00  AI

1:18:00  Cheap energy

World leading universities eg Imperial

1:20:00  MEGA

Labour problem

1:21:00  Moses and the other fleeing slaves

1:22:00  Gender relations willl address labour problems.

Nihilism and apathy

1:23:00  The average of Westerners (40) and the average age of Muslims in the West (27)

1:25:00  Regeneration

We do not have government in the national interest.

1:26:00  Correcting the birth rate

1:27:00  Married motherhood

1:28:00  After men change the rules, women will fall the line. 

1:29:00  Being impractical

1:30:00  Making arguments

1:32:00  AfD

1:33:00  The system is the problem

1:34:00  The left lean towards feminism

Pandering to the female voter

1:36:00  Sacred cow of feminism

1:37:00  Encourage childless women to admit their mistakes.

1:39:00  Women's work is important but does not feature in GDP

The government should stop using GDP as a measure of national achievement.

Pro-natalism in Hungary and Poland

1:40:00  A comprehensive social programme to promote patriarchy

1:41:00  Alienating people is unavoidable if you have a radical programme.

1:42:00  How to get young people in their 20s to marry

1:45:00  Gay men lead an easier life than married fathers.

1:48:00  Young people are broken.

TINA - There is no alternative.

1:49:00  Ancestors of modern Europeans have been totalitarian.

1:50:00  SCOTSMAN on single mother households. 

1:51:00  Female taught young males and co-education in secondary schools

1:55:00  Toxic masculinity

1:58:00  AI

1:59:00  Enoch Powell

2:01:00  Immigration

2:01:00  Unemployment always around 3M?

2:03:00  Immigrants need pensions too.

2:05:00  SNP

2:06:00  The British people

2:07:00  Westminster centric UK

2:08:00  Labour calling everyone right-wing

2:09:00  General Strike?

English Parliament

2:11:00  Scottish Parliament

2:16:00  Debt and war

2:18:00  Bank of England

2:19:00  Saving to get out of Britain

Destroying the middle class

2:21:00  Globalist agenda

2:22:00  An awakening is needed about representative democracy. 

2:27:00  Is Adolescence overreach?

2:28:00  SNP voters

2:33:00  Female behaviour

2:34:00  Rupert Lowe

2:35:00  Female fear

2:36:00  Violence Against Women and Children by Men

2:37:00  Lesbians are more likely to be guilty of domestic violence or report it.

2:39:00  Men have to take charge.

Gender politics

2:40:00  Women are hypocrites if they say they don't care about eugenics.

2:41:00  The state is the daddy of lost women.

2:47:00   Transgenderism

2:49:00  Identity issues

2:50:00  Putting children on a war footing?

2:52:00  Andrew Tate and toxic masculinity

2:59:00  Religion > Feminism

3:00:00  Demographics

3:03:00  State religion

3:07:00  Groupthink

3:08:00  Jared Taylor

3:10:00  Chinese Communist Party/Bolsheviks

State religion

3:11:00  Church of England/Scotland manipulated by the state

3:12:00  The Church is malleable by the matriarchy.

3:14:00  Rhodesia

3:17:00  Church promoting transgenderism

3:18:00  Christian nationalism

3:20:00  The New Testament

3:22:00  Tithes

3:23:00  Liberation theology

3:24:00  Bible Belt

3:25:00  Imposing a religion organically

3:26:00  GDP

3:27:00  Muslims

3:28:00  "God comes from within."

3:29:00  Ancient Greeks

3:30:00  Christian ethics and morality

3:31:00  Healthy society

3:32:00  Did Plato and Socrates have the benefit of divine revelation? 

3:34:00  The function of religion

3:35:00  Critical thinking

3:37:00  Historical narratives and ancient history

3:30:00  Three year old in a nursery punished for misgendering someone

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/toddler-suspended-nursery-transphobic-b2724495.html

3:42:00  Hobbits

3:45:00  Admission to heaven as Christians guilty of the mortal sins of idolatry and blasphemy

Women or men being the worst child molesters and Raymond Cattell's new morality for science

https://t.co/SqrkTQ84S2

— Real Vincent Bruno (@RealVinBruno) April 1, 2025

2:00  Being blocked

The nature and purpose of religion

4:00  Westerners cannot go back to Christianity.

5:00  Secular political ideologies have replaced Christianity.

6:00  Half a decade of feminism has destroyed Western civilisation as we know it.

7:00  Dugin's Fourth Political Theory

8:00  A people's democratic dictatorship

9:00  Democratic centralism ie one-party state

JGR joins.

10:00  https://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=3&verse=49

12:00  Belief system

19:00  System of rules

21:00  10 Commandments and 7 Noahide laws

22:00   Prohibition against sodomy and bestiality

23:00  Banning child marriage

24:00  Ernst Rohm

25:00  Pink Swastika

26:00  Nick Fuentes

27:00  Pakistan

29:00  Drag Queen Story Hour

30:00  Sheilaism

31:00  Our ancestors have been lied to.

32:00  Alexander the Great

33:00  Gospel of Mark

34:00  God incarnate

36:00  Demiurge

37:00  Christianity and Islam

38:00  Adam Green

Jesus and Alexander the Great

39:00  Bisexuality

40:00  Cupbearer

42:00  Band of Thebes

43:00  Thrace

44:00  Plato and Xenophon

46:00  Gays in the Dissident Right

47:00  Democrats and hypermasculinity

48:00  Sodomites should have paid a man to have a child for them.

49:00  Child molestation

51:00  Patriarchy

54:00  Afghan child molesters

55:00  Women as child molesters

57:00  PRUE joins.

59:00  Women are more likely to kill children and the elderly.

1:03:00  Female teachers who are sex offenders committing statutory rape

1:07:00  Paedophilia

1:08:00  Age of consent

1:11:00  WHITE MUSLIM WOMAN joins.

1:12:00  Underage sex

1:15:00  Married girls at Catholic school

1:17:00  Girls going round in pairs in Egypt and Mexico

1:18:00  White men mostly accosted Carol when she was a schoolgirl

1:26:00  Murderers

1:28:00  Why people hate Carol

1:29:00  Being a boomer

Raymond Cattell

https://www.amazon.co.uk/New-Morality-Science-Beyondism-Psychology/dp/0080171923

1:36:00  David Duke and Jared Taylor

Marriage is eugenic

https://t.co/FscnjBO07M

— Cyborg of Secular Koranism (@Book_of_Rules) March 31, 2025

2:00  Beyondism and IC race codes

3:00  Register of DNA

10:00  Conversion therapy

Aesthetic Realism

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1386/stap.28.2.183_3

16:00  Religion, Art and Science

22:00  A patriarchy would forbid homosexuality.

Art is a luxury item. 

24:00  An objective measure of human achievement is empire.

26:00  Universal education

27:00  Sola scriptura

Military organisation of the Mongols

Alexander the Great

28:00  Moral systems

Badges of identity

29:00  Information required on your application form

30:00  Religion influences law and culture.

Beliefs and practices

31:00  Judaism

Muslims may be stupid but they still have children.

Marriage

32:00  No money no love.

33:00  Marriage is eugenic.

34:00  Dysgenics in Upstate New York

Lowering standards of sexual morality

35:00  Margaret Sanger

Engaged couples must apply to be married.

36:00  Make people jump through hoops to be married.

37:00  Trailer trash

Raising the threshold of sexual morality

38:00  Birth control

39:00  Poorer people have more children.

All societies need a workforce.

41:00  The underclass and trailer trash

The nature and purpose of the marriage license

42:00  Men can't say no to no-strings sex.

43:00  Unhappy couples

44:00  Marriage should be supported.

45:00  Why are Western men pretending not to understand what I am talking about?

46:00  Collective breeding

47:00  Community centres

48:00  Only religion would sustain a tight-knit religious community.

Secular Paganism

49:00  Joseph Smith and the Mormons

50:00  Groups that practised collective

51:00  Oneida Community

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneida_Community

52:00  Eugenics

53:00  Marriage is selective breeding.

54:00  Females are the guardians of the next generation.

55:00  Bastards everywhere.

https://quran.com/4

57:00  Feminism operates through bribing men with extramarital sex.

59:00  White nationalists become Christian nationalists in the hope of getting an upgrade.

1:00:00  Christianity is a religion nobody takes seriously.

1:01:00  Jay Dyer, Andrew and Rachel Wilson 

1:02:00  White Nationalists are so stupid they haven't  even noticed that Christianity has failed. 

1:03:00  Christianity neither prevented the fall of Rome nor the extinction of absolute monarchy in Europe.

1:04:00  There are no principles for gentiles in the Bible.

1:05:00  The Deadly Sin of Pride

Christianity is only a cultural identity, mascot or team colour.

1:06:00  Wrongthink

1:07:00  Are Vincent and I the only people in the global American Empire who understands the problem?

1:08:00  Orthodox Christians present an easy target.

Mainstream > Dissident

1:09:00 Secular Koranism could easily be the new legal system of America since it is not a religion and won't come into conflict with the First Amendment.

1:10:00  The First Amendment

1:11:00  A matter of interpretation

1:12:00  There is no alpha male leader in a matriarchy.

AI fun with Secular Koranism and Vincent Bruno #20 Policy on the aged and the acquisition of wisdom

3:00  SK policy on the elderly

5:00  A talent seeking programme for the elderly

6:00  Living exhibits

8:00  Promoting wisdom

10:00  Ideological integration

11:00  [Reading begins.]

17:00  Vincent Bruno

22:00  Defining wisdom

29:00  Nominations

35:00  [Reading begins.]

38:00  Math and logic

Mathematics and logic are deeply interconnected disciplines that share a foundational relationship. At its core, mathematics is a structured system of reasoning built upon logical principles, while logic provides the framework for constructing and validating mathematical arguments. Here’s how they link: 

Foundation of Reasoning: Logic is the bedrock of mathematical proofs. Every theorem, equation, or solution in math relies on logical deduction—starting from axioms (accepted truths) and using rules of inference to arrive at conclusions. For example, in geometry, proving that the angles of a triangle sum to 180° depends on logical steps rooted in Euclidean axioms.

Formal Systems: Mathematics can be seen as a formal application of logic. Fields like set theory, number theory, and algebra are built using logical symbols and rules. Mathematicians like Gottlob Frege and Bertrand Russell even tried to reduce all of mathematics to logic (a pursuit called logicism), though Gödel’s incompleteness theorems later showed limits to this ambition.

Problem-Solving: Both disciplines emphasize rigorous problem-solving. In math, you solve equations or compute values; in logic, you evaluate arguments or propositions (e.g., "if P, then Q"). The process in both involves identifying premises, applying rules, and deriving valid outcomes—think of solving "2 + 2 = 4" versus deducing "if it rains, the ground is wet."

Shared Concepts: Certain areas of math, like Boolean algebra or predicate calculus, directly overlap with logic. Boolean algebra, for instance, underpins computer science and digital circuits, using logical operations (AND, OR, NOT) to manipulate true/false values, which are inherently mathematical (1s and 0s).

Abstraction and Precision: Both fields thrive on abstract thinking and precision. Logic ensures that mathematical statements are consistent and unambiguous, while math gives logic concrete applications—like calculating probabilities or modeling relationships.

In essence, logic is the language and glue of mathematics, ensuring its coherence, while mathematics extends logic into a creative and quantitative realm. Without logic, math would lack rigor; without math, logic would miss some of its most powerful expressions.

 40:00  Being numerate

44:00  Wisdom Participant

48:00  Peer review, not scholarships

51:00  Muslims angry about the proposed break up of Ramadan

53:00  Prompt

56:00  Ramadan Rebellion

[Reading begins.]

1:05:00  SKWS is more authoritarian with Supreme Executor.

1:06:00  Secular Koranism Version 3

Secular Koranism on a one year grace period on the whipping of unmarried parents

Secular Koranism: Secular Koranism on a one year grace period on the...:    TABLE OF CONTENTS   Below is a detailed party pamphlet for the Secular Koranist Party of America (SKPA) announcing that the whipping of ...

The importance of theology in settling political disputes

Vincent Bruno https://t.co/ioE5jxhUVX

— Cyborg of Secular Koranism (@Book_of_Rules) March 27, 2025

7:00  Space begins.

8:00  Wren Cobb is moving towards God. 

9:00  Rake veers from being Christian to pagan to Thelemite. 

11:00  An interest in theology is a measure of Western Man moving towards God.

13:00  Beyondism

Minimum moral standard of the Noahide laws

14:00  Doubling population growth

15:00  Reason for lower birth rates

16:00  Premarital sex must be banned. 

17:00  Patriarchy is eugenic. 

18:00  The price of sex

19:00  God agrees with me.

Are  Jews also idolaters if they continue to reject sharia?

20:00  Hidden idolatry

21:00  Islamophobia is the idol Jews worship.

22:00  It is important to correctly conceive of God.

23:00  Rake cannot decide whether he is Christian, pagan or agnostic. 

24:00  Belief in God and the afterlife is necessary to encourage people to do the right thing. 

25:00  Hypocrites who only pretend to believe

Secular Koranism is 5 out of 7.

26:00  Reasonable atheists can see the point of refraining from idolatry and blasphemy. 

Rake's nonsense

27:00  Gentiles existed before Jews.

28:00  God does not look like a human being.

We are made in God's image, apparently.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%201%3A27&version=NIV

29:00  Does God have a back, hand, foot or finger?

30:00  Worshiping a man is idolatry.

31:00  Hypocrites go to hell.

32:00  Idolatry is thoughtcrime.

33:00  What were Jews chosen to do?

34:00  Assimilated Jews

35:00  It is only safe for Jews to live amongst righteous gentiles. 

36:00  Culture under SKPA

38:00  Culture is  just the shape of the bottle.

39:00  Brave New World

40:00  Rake

41:00  We don't like it, we don't wanna, you can't make us.

43:00  Matriarchies are conquered by patriarchies.

44:00  It is possible to ignore sexual morality until it becomes unignorable. 

45:00  Scapegoating

Jews are a measure of healthy humanity.

46:00  Hiloni, Masortim, Datiim and Haredim

47:00  A high number of Jews of low quality or a low number of Jews of high quality?

49:00  Theology gets you the attention of powerful religious groups.

50:00  Pagans are so stupid.

51:00  The Greek pantheons is interesting in that the Olympians superseded the Titans.

53:00  Ancient laws or new ideas?

54:00  Representative democracy

56:00  Constitutional monarchies confuse people.

57:00  Warfare

59:00  Ukraine

1:01:00  Colour Revolution

1:02:00  Controlling the media and controlling the algorithms

1:04:00  Israel is controlled by America.

Losing patience with white people who refuse to get it about the nature and purpose of religion

https://t.co/iPBp1CFDdi

— Rake’s revenge (@Eagle_force_555) March 27, 2025

7:00  Marriage comes with a certificate or licence

32:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins.

33:00  I am in the process of regenerating and remoralising the West.

34:00  White Flight

35:00  The Woodlander

Cities are a sign of civilisation.

36:00  The theology of the Abrahamic God

37:00  Three major forms of belief: Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism - all idolatry

38:00  DR NICK atheist joins.

39:00  Dogma and religion

41:00  Nicene Creed

43:00  The resurrection of Christ is dogma as is the Trinity. 

49:00  WREN COBB joins.

50:00  Silly conspiracy theory

52:00  Nihilism etc

53:00  The Abrahamic God

54:00  Maths

55:00  Atheist Theory of God

Not all atheists are nihilists.

58:00  Wren acknowledges the logical necessity of a Prime Cause.

1:00:00  MRI - fight or flight

1:02:00  Putting the train back on the cart

1:03:00  Matriarchy is the moral disease.

1:04:00   Prioritising the female preference

1:06:00  Demographics

Economy

1:07:00  Thatcher and New Labour

John Major

1:08:00  Keir Starmer

Many female voters voted Conservative. 

1:09:00  The female voter voted for Thatcher and New Labour.

1:11:00  Men should not bother asking women what they want. 

Risk aversion and ambiguity are feminine stratagems.

1:13:00  17th Amendment

1:14:00   The definition of extremist

1:16:00  Hobbit

1:18:00  Semantics

1:20:00  Jews and Muslims are not offending Christians enough.

1:21:00  The Trinity is dogma. Forbidding idolatry is dogma.

1:22:00  King Charles

1:23:00  The Trinity

1:24:00   "Fuck, it's Claire's point."

1:26:00  If the Abrahamic God who created the Universe exists, then everything in it is His.  

1:27:00  God is separate from His Creation.

1:28:00  Idolatry is a low status belief system.

1:29:00  There is only one Abrahamic God.

1:30:00  William Gibson's Cyberspace

1:38:00  ADAM joins to discuss my blogs.

1:46:00  Theodicy

2:03:00  Science, philosophy and theology

2:18:00  Secular Morality

2:31:00  Pincer movement

2:32:00  Scientism

2:33:00  Objective truth

2:34:00  "Hobbits" do not have an ideology.

2:35:00   "Hobbits" being replaced have no tribal instinct. 

2:36:00  Saudi Arabia

2:38:00  University and ideology is a grift.

2:39:00  False economy

2:40:00  DEI

2:44:00  Rationing

2:48:00  Neoliberalism is materialism.

Why would our ruling classes admit they are fucking stupid?

2:49:00  Immigration

2:53:00  Public Service Broadcasting

2:54:00  Net Zero

2:57:00  Agency

2:59:00  Most middle class people cares more about their BMW than their race.

3:00:00  Vanguard

AI fun with Secular Koranism and Vincent Bruno #19 Definition of blasphemy, Ramadan and Greenland

Perspective being dumb at https://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2025/03/dimwit-islamophobe-pretends-not-to.html

4:00  JW-phobic witness evidence excluded because of clear bias

10:00  Rome was Arian before it became Trinitarian.

11:00  Jesus was an angel. 

12:00 Jehovah's Witnesses know their Bible better than Trinitarians.

13:00  Sola scriptura

Sola Scriptura is a Latin phrase meaning "by Scripture alone." It’s a theological principle that emerged during the Protestant Reformation in the 16th century, particularly associated with reformers like Martin Luther. The idea is that the Bible is the sole, ultimate authority for Christian faith and practice—nothing else, like church tradition, papal decrees, or human reason, holds equal weight. 

In essence, it asserts that all doctrines, teachings, and moral guidelines should be derived directly from Scripture, and anything not explicitly supported by it can be questioned or rejected. It was a pushback against the Catholic Church’s reliance on both Scripture and sacred tradition as co-equal sources of authority. Protestants who hold to Sola Scriptura argue that the Bible is clear enough (at least on essential matters) for believers to understand and apply without needing an intermediary like a priest or a church council to interpret it for them.

That said, it’s not a monolith—different groups interpret "by Scripture alone" in slightly different ways. Some take it super literally, while others allow room for reason and tradition as secondary guides, as long as they don’t contradict the text. Critics, like Catholics and Orthodox Christians, argue it leads to endless splintering of beliefs since everyone’s reading the same book but coming up with different conclusions. Which, fair point, history shows that’s kinda what happened.

Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t fit neatly into the traditional Sola Scriptura camp, even though they emphasize the Bible heavily. Sola Scriptura, as historically defined by the Protestant Reformation, means Scripture is the sole infallible authority, and individuals can interpret it without needing an overarching institution to dictate meaning. Jehovah’s Witnesses, on the other hand, while claiming to base everything on the Bible, filter their understanding through the teachings of the Watchtower Society—their governing body. This creates a key distinction.

They’re hardcore about using Scripture as the foundation, no doubt. They’ll point to verses like 2 Timothy 3:16 ("All Scripture is inspired by God and beneficial for teaching") to back their stance, and they reject traditions like Christmas or the Trinity that they see as unbiblical. Their New World Translation of the Bible is their go-to, and they’re known for door-to-door evangelism armed with chapter and verse. In that sense, they might look more "Scripture-alone" than, say, Catholics who lean on tradition or mainline Protestants who sometimes vibe with cultural norms over strict textual adherence.

But here’s the catch: the Watchtower Society acts as the final interpreter. You don’t get to just read the Bible and draw your own conclusions as a Jehovah’s Witness—interpretations come top-down from the organization. Dissent from their official doctrine, even if you think it’s biblically grounded, isn’t really an option. This is a stark contrast to classic Sola Scriptura, where the individual believer, guided by the Holy Spirit, has more interpretive freedom (think Luther’s "priesthood of all believers"). Compare that to, say, a Baptist church, where members might debate a passage’s meaning in a Bible study without a central authority slapping down a ruling.

So, are they more Sola Scriptura? Not quite. They’re Scripture-obsessed, sure, but their reliance on the Watchtower as the lens makes it closer to "Scriptura plus organizational authority" than the raw, unfiltered "Scripture alone" of Reformation ideals. Other denominations—like many evangelical Protestants—stick closer to the original Sola Scriptura spirit, even if they don’t always agree on what the Bible says. Jehovah’s Witnesses’ approach is more controlled, less solo. 

20:00  Prompt

26:00  Blasphemy is heresy and vice versa.

[Reading beings.]

36:00  Ramadan

38:00  Prompt

44:00  [Reading begins.]

54:00  Greenland to become Trumpland.

Donald Trump’s interest in acquiring Greenland centers on a mix of strategic, economic, and geopolitical factors. He’s repeatedly framed it as a matter of national security, arguing that U.S. control of the island is vital for protecting the "free world." Greenland’s location in the Arctic, sitting between North America and Europe, makes it a prime spot for military positioning. The U.S. already has the Pituffik Space Base there under a 1951 defense treaty with Denmark, equipped with missile warning systems and radar—key for monitoring Russia and countering potential threats from China. With melting ice opening new shipping lanes like the Northern Sea Route, Greenland’s position becomes even more critical for trade and defense.

Beyond security, resources are a big draw. Greenland’s got a stash of rare earth minerals—stuff like neodymium and dysprosium, essential for tech like batteries and wind turbines—plus uranium, oil, and natural gas locked under its ice. As climate change thaws the Arctic, these become more accessible, and Trump likely sees a chance to reduce U.S. reliance on China, which dominates the rare earth market. Economic security’s a recurring theme in his rhetoric; he’s said Greenland (and the Panama Canal) are must-haves for that reason.

There’s also a historical angle—Trump’s not the first to eye Greenland. The U.S. tried buying it in 1867 under Andrew Johnson and again in 1946 under Truman, offering $100 million in gold for Cold War defense purposes. Trump’s pitched it as a "real estate deal," playing to his background, but with a twist: he’s suggested hefty investments could boost Greenland’s economy, which leans on a $500 million annual Danish subsidy. His vision seems to blend old-school expansionism with a promise of prosperity for the island’s 57,000 residents, mostly Indigenous Inuit.

There are Muslims in Greenland, though their numbers are extremely small. As of the most recent reliable accounts, the Muslim population in Greenland is minimal, with one well-documented individual being Wassam Azaqeer, a Lebanese citizen who has lived in Nuuk, the capital, since at least 2013. He runs a restaurant there and is often cited as the only known Muslim resident at that time. More recent estimates suggest that by 2021-2022, a handful of additional Muslims may have moved to Greenland, potentially increasing the count to a few individuals, though exact numbers are hard to pin down due to limited official data.

Greenland’s population, around 57,000, is overwhelmingly Christian, with about 93% affiliated with the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Greenland. The government doesn’t systematically track religious affiliation beyond this, so precise figures for minority groups like Muslims rely on anecdotal reports or small-scale studies. The presence of Muslims hasn’t grown significantly, likely due to the island’s remote location, harsh climate, and cultural homogeneity—over 85% of residents are Inuit. Unlike nearby Denmark, which has a Muslim population of about 5% (roughly 300,000 people), Greenland hasn’t seen notable immigration from Muslim-majority countries.

That said, the idea of a single Muslim resident has stuck in popular narratives, partly because Wassam’s story—fasting for up to 21 hours during Ramadan due to Greenland’s extreme daylight patterns—stands out. Whether the count is still one or has crept up slightly, Muslims remain a tiny, almost negligible fraction of Greenland’s religious landscape. There are no mosques or formal Islamic communities, and any practice would be personal and private.

That said, his approach raises eyebrows. Denmark and Greenland’s leaders—like Prime Minister Múte Egede—flat-out reject the idea, insisting it’s not for sale and pushing for independence, not new ownership. Trump’s refusal to rule out economic pressure (tariffs on Denmark) or even military force adds a coercive edge that clashes with modern norms of self-determination. Critics see it as imperial flexing; supporters argue it’s pragmatic power play in a world where Russia and China are already circling the Arctic. Either way, it’s less about whim and more about positioning the U.S. for a shifting global landscape.

Slave and Master morality

Slave and master morality are concepts from Friedrich Nietzsche's philosophy, particularly outlined in his works like Beyond Good and Evil and On the Genealogy of Morality. They describe two opposing ways of valuing the world, rooted in the perspectives of different social groups.

Master morality originates from the strong, the powerful, and those who assert themselves. It values independence, strength, courage, pride, and self-reliance—qualities that affirm life and the will to power. In this framework, "good" is what benefits the individual or the strong, while "bad" is weakness, cowardice, or anything that undermines vitality. Think of a warrior or noble class defining morality on their own terms, celebrating their dominance and creative force without guilt or hesitation.

Slave morality, by contrast, emerges from the weak, the oppressed, or those who resent the powerful. It flips the script: "good" becomes humility, kindness, sympathy, and equality—traits that protect the vulnerable and curb the strong. "Evil" is then the arrogance, cruelty, or selfishness of the masters. Nietzsche saw this as a reactive mindset, born from resentment and a desire to invert the natural hierarchy of power. He often tied it to the rise of Judeo-Christian values, where the meek are exalted as a way to cope with suffering.

Nietzsche didn’t just describe these as historical attitudes; he argued they’re psychological archetypes that still clash within cultures and individuals. Master morality is proactive and life-affirming, while slave morality is defensive and life-denying, in his view. He critiqued the latter as a symptom of decline, though he didn’t fully endorse the former—he wanted something beyond both.

Dimwit Islamophobe pretends not to understand Secular Koranism

https://t.co/aRmPjzK3BB

— Cyborg of Secular Koranism (@Book_of_Rules) March 26, 2025

7:00  Official moral system

8:00  Playing the blame game

11:00  PERSPECTIVE joins.

https://secularkoranism.blogspot.com/ 

16:00  The purpose of this blog

https://secularkoranism.blogspot.com/2025/03/secular-koranism-vs-islam.html

21:00  Muslims are not the only people who ignore their own rules. 

26:00  The reason why no one follows the rules is because they don't know what they are.

28:00  Leaderless Jews and Muslims

Wahhabis

29:00  The problem of the monarchy

30:00  The absolute monarch is above the law.

31:00  Doctrine Parliamentary Supremacy

32:00  Affirmative Action requires American citizens to believe that Affirmation Action is right and just when it in fact interferes with their freedom of belief.

Equality Act 2010

33:00  Orwell's thoughtcrime

34:00  MBS is an absolute monarch.

35:00  Wahhabism

4 wives max rule broken by the Ottoman Emperor

37:00  It's not that complicated.

39:00  A system is better than no system at all.

42:00  Grok

43:00  Admits to Islamophobia

45:00  The Hadith is "disgusting shit". 

1:00:00  Perspective is so boring.  

1:02:00  Mentally ill degenerates getting  stupider and more corrupt by the day.

AI fun with Secular Koranism and Vincent Bruno #18 Getting it adopted and its policy on gambling

1:00  The Truman Show

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Truman_Show

https://clairekhaw.substack.com/p/secular-koranism-with-west-virginian

6:00  Male Virtue Class System

10:00  Jehovah's Witness literature

14:00  Psychological profile

19:00  [Reading begins.]

27:00  A kind and compassionate one party state

29:00  Prompt

34:00  [Reading begins.]

44:00  When will Dissident Right discuss Secular Koranism?

45:00  White Muslim Ethno-Nationalists are afraid of talking to each other.

46:00  Aarvoll and Joel Davis

47:00  Neurotic YouTubers

48:00  Jordan Peterson and Carol AKA White Muslim Woman

49:00  Why won't people say they don't know if they don't know?

51:00  If we want an afterlife, we would have to believe in the Abrahamic God.

Buddhist principles

57:00  Hindus and Buddhists have no fear of God

59:00  Hypocrites who do not follow their stated principles

1:02:00  Can one be righteous without religious principles?

1:04:00  Secular Jews free-ride on observant  Jew.

1:05:00  White Muslim Woman

1:06:00  Shouldn't we be alarmed that no one cares that no one cares about anything?

1:07:00  Marriageable men have principles.

1:08:00  Encouraging marriage amongst white people

1:11:00  Moral scrutiny

Noahide laws minus - 1 or more

1:13:00  Sermon on the Mount 

Judge them by their fruits.

1:18:00  https://secularkoranism.blogspot.com/2025/03/secular-koranism-pamphlet-on-gambling.html

AI fun with Secular Koranism and Vincent Bruno #17 Register of Dissidents and classifying Hilonim as Heretical Jews

4:00  Why no feedback?

5:00  Over 1000 views 

Are people scared of the power of Secular Koranism?

6:00  Carol liked the Concubine Contract. 

8:00  Classifying Hilonim as Heretical Jews

9:00  Excommunication

10:00  Religion is a declaration of identity.

11:00  Carol's identity as a White Muslim Woman.

12:00  Vincent will be in the Atheist/Agnostic Register like me.

13:00  Tovia Singer angry with Jews who chose to be categorised as Christian rather than Musllim.

14:00  Relationship status

Vincent's father didn't tell him he was marrying for a third time.

17:00  Vincent's step sister was informed about their father's third marriage.

23:00  Rabbi Mizrachi on the Hilonim

26:00  Register of Dissidents

27:00  Defending one's religious and moral principles

28:00  Prompt

33:00  [Reading begins.]

42:00  Reducing the number of Jews and Christians and imposing quality control on them

44:00  Ramadan ends on 30 March 2025.

Education and Sharing Day 9 April 2025

46:00  Story of Christians fearful of being asked to define heresy

49:00  Confirmation ceremony

51:00  Story about the delight of the Haredim when they heard that the Hilonim were going to be classified as Heretical Jews

59:00  [Reading begins.]

Vincent Bruno explains Beyondism to White Muslim Woman

4:00  Beyondist Think Tank

10:00  CAROL joins.

11:00  No claimed afterlife

12:00  quran.com/49/13

14:00  DNA and genetics

20:00  Ethno-states

21:00  Communes

Italy

22:00  Religion is an organsing force.

23:00  Orderly transition of power

Group existence, group solidarity and group cooperation

24:00  Empire is an objective measure of human achievement.

25:00  Three global Christian empires

https://religionofbeyondism.blogspot.com/

27:00  Registers of Race and Religion

28:00  Who is entitled to claim Christian identity?

29:00  The Founding Fathers were Heretical Christians.

30:00  Religion in America

31:00  Christian identity

32:00  Discreet enquiries about religious beliefs for those who join the Armed Forces

https://secularkoranism.blogspot.com/2025/03/why-secular-koranist-state-will-keep.html

33:00  Muslims can self-identify.

34:00  Confirmed Christians

35:00  Anabaptists

37:00  Southern Baptists

39:00  Members List

40:00  Christianity is only a cultural affiliation.

41:00  Beyondism

42:00  Sheilaism

43:00  Non-Denominational Christian

44:00  WASPs

Catholics were the white niggers of America.

45:00  Observant Jews and Heretical Jews

48:00  Degrees of observance 

49:00  Religion is a personal question.

51:00  Registries

McCarthy Era

52:00  White Muslim Woman

55:00  Registry of Religion

https://secularkoranism.blogspot.com/2025/03/secular-koranisms-registry-of-races.html

1:00:00  DNA tests

1:03:00  Judaism is not as racist as White Nationalism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Jean_Charles_de_Menezes

1:05:00  Married fathers will have a free DNA test every time their wife has a child.

1:10:00  Elizabeth Warren

A, B and B+ schools

1:12:00  Bastard schools

1:16:00  Replacing ourselves

1:17:00  Thanksgiving

1:18:00  Epiphany

1:20:00  How much fuss does the government make about Christmas and Thanksgiving?

1:23:00  Unmarried parents of both sexes are lashes. 

1:24:00  You are legitimate if your parents were ever married to each other. 

1:25:00  Concubine Contract

https://secularkoranism.blogspot.com/2025/03/secular-koranism-pamphlet-on-concubine.html

1:33:00  America a unitary state with provinces?

1:38:00  Deeming provision

1:41:00  Men are only obliged to support their legitimate offspring. 

1:43:00  Registers for Unmarried Parents divided into Repentant Unmarried Parents and Unrepentant Unmarried Parents ("UUP").

1:46:00  A, B and B+ Schools

https://secularkoranism.blogspot.com/2025/03/secular-koranism-short-story-on-schools.html

1:48:00  Continuation School

1:49:00  A and B schools in Africa

The terms "A and B schools" in the context of Africa do not have a universally standardized meaning across the continent, as educational systems and classifications vary by country. However, based on available information and common educational frameworks, the terms could relate to specific categorizations used in certain African nations, particularly in the context of secondary or higher education. Below is an interpretation based on relevant examples: 

In Ghana, for instance, "A and B schools" often refer to categories of senior high schools (SHS) established by the Ghana Education Service (GES) for the Computerized School Selection and Placement System (CSSPS). These categories help students and parents select schools after the Basic Education Certificate Examination (BECE):  

Category A Schools: These are considered the top-tier or most prestigious public senior high schools, characterized by strong academic performance (e.g., high West African Senior School Certificate Examination (WASSCE) results), well-developed infrastructure (modern classrooms, labs, libraries), and notable achievements. Students can typically only select one Category A school due to high demand. Examples might include schools like Achimota School or Prempeh College. 

Category B Schools: These are also public senior high schools but are ranked slightly below Category A in terms of academic performance, facilities, or historical prestige. They remain highly regarded and competitive but offer more options for student placement. Examples might include schools like St. Augustine’s College or Aburi Girls’ Senior High. 

This A-B classification in Ghana extends further to Categories C, D, E, F, and G, covering other public, technical/vocational, and private institutions, but A and B are typically the most sought-after public options.  

Outside of Ghana, there’s no continent-wide "A and B" designation for schools in Africa unless specified by a particular country’s education system. For example:  

In South Africa, schools might be informally ranked by quality (e.g., well-funded urban schools vs. under-resourced rural ones), but no formal A/B labeling exists in the public system. 

In Nigeria, distinctions might be made between elite federal or private schools and others, but again, no strict A/B categories are universally applied. 

Alternatively, if your question refers to business schools, the Association of African Business Schools (AABS) doesn’t use an A/B ranking but focuses on enhancing management education across African institutions. Some might informally call top business schools (e.g., University of Cape Town Graduate School of Business) "A-tier" due to reputation, but this isn’t an official classification.

Tracking of smarties and dummies

1:52:00  UK Education System 

1:53:00  Educational background of the Beatles

1:54:00   John Lennon

1:56:00  Secondary Modern and Grammar School

1:59:00  Shotgun weddings revived

2:00:00  The incentivisation of status

2:02:00  "You're a bastard?" "So what? So are you."

https://secularkoranism.blogspot.com/2025/03/secular-koranism-table-of-contents.html

2:08:00  https://secularkoranism.blogspot.com/2025/03/does-secular-koranism-clash-with-usa.html

2:12:00  Single sex secondary schools

2:25:00  State education

2:28:00  AP classes

2:29:00  Agricultural college

2:31:00  Slavery as workfare.

A passage to India

The condition and politics of the West https://t.co/Yc6aKi6O31

— Cyborg of Secular Koranism (@Book_of_Rules) March 22, 2025

9:00  Caleb Maupin

10:00  Vincent Bruno 

11:00  Anti-immigration

12:00  Douglas Murray

13:00  Birth rates plummeting with feminism and LGBT

14:00  A culture of casual sex

15:00  Sexual liberation is now the norm.

16:00  Getting gender relations right will mean getting labour relations right.

17:00  Secular Koranism

21:00  quran.com/8/12

24:00  Terrorist organisations

25:00  The eternal and universal laws of the Koran

26:00  Terrorism

27:00  Sri Lanka Tamil Tigers

28:00  Nelson Mandela

29:00  CRIS joins.

33:00  HARRY PUTTER joins.

https://secularkoranism.blogspot.com

36:00  I used to be an Islamophobe.

37:00  Christians aren't going to church. 

Cyborg

38:00  Alliterative

40:00  Political thinker

41:00  Not claiming to be a prophetess

42:00  Why not the Bible?

44:00  Religion

47:00  Secular Koranism

50:00  China

52:00  UNTOWARD joins.

57:00  TOMMY joins.

58:00  Freedom of speech

59:00  Indians

1:06:00  Hatred of others and self

1:10:00  Being shouted at in China

1:11:00  Military Industrial Complex

1:14:00  Teetotaler

1:15:00  Drinking culture

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation

1:17:00  Hated ideas

1:19:00  Reading the Koran

1:22:00  Different kinds of Muslims

1:23:00  No fault divorce

1:24:00  Divorce rare in India

Sati

1:26:00  Modi is Dalit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_Backward_Class

1:28:00  Mumbai

1:29:00  The Taj Mahal is in Delhi.

1:30:00  Beaches

1:31:00  Himalayas, Kerala, Kashmir, Nepal

1:33:00  Age

Unrealistic expectations

1:37:00  Political systems

1:38:00  Trump

1:39:00  An orderly transition of power

1:41:00  Politburo Standing Committee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politburo_Standing_Committee_of_the_Chinese_Communist_Party

Religion is about frightening people into becoming married parents

https://t.co/DTj0wcFeu7

— Cyborg of Secular Koranism (@Book_of_Rules) March 22, 2025

Secular Koranism

2:00  An official moral system that supports marriage

3:00  G K Chesterton: "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."

5:00  Yuval Harari's Sapiens

6:00  Language, ideas and organisation

8:00  Religion is also stories.

9:00  Islamophobia

10:00  Christianity

12:00  The Age of Republican Revolutions displaced the Age of Monarchy

13:00  Liberalism is uncodified.

14:00  Westerners whingeing and moaning

15:00  The Business Model of the Neocons

16:00  Islam threatens the sexual liberation of feminism.

17:00  Leftists promote feminism.

21:00  Rights for women in India

22:00  Sharia councils in India

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygyny_in_India

26:00  Congress is supported by Muslims.

27:00  Labour, Conservative and anti-immigration political parties

28:00  Tommy Robinson and Anjem Choudary

https://news.sky.com/story/tommy-robinson-loses-bid-to-challenge-prison-segregation-in-high-court-13333062

30:00  Hate speech

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/ce34jq50j5zt

37:00  Equality Act 2010

Black disabled lesbian

39:00  Low education low income low status men do not have a protected characteristic under the Equality Act 2010.

40:00  The government wants to protect immigrant workers because they are more useful than the people complaining about them.

41:00  Lazy whites

42:00  Married parents are not supported by the government.

43:00  George Washington warned against political parties.

https://www.americanmajority.org/blog-2/why-was-george-washington-opposed-to-political-parties/

44:00  Voters' holding politicians to account

47:00  https://secularkoranism.blogspot.com/2025/03/secular-koranism-pamphlet-on-family.html

49:00  White people would rather die than be married parents.

52:00  Most UK parents are unmarried parents.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2285670/Most-children-of-British-mothers-born-out-of-wedlock.html

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/10096757-out-of-the-corruption-of-women-proceeds-the-confusion-of

53:00  Blindly copying the West

54:00  Neither the Bible nor the Koran forbids slavery and prostitution.

56:00  Majapahit Empire was conquered by Islam.

57:00  Allowing our corrupt and incompetent ruling classes to make up the rules as they go along is worse than becoming a theocracy.

Idolatry Cannot Be Any Dumber Than This by Rabbi Mizrachi

47:00  Golden Calf

55:00  Holy Cow

58:00  Cows have a nine month pregnancy too.

1:00:00  How Jews treat deceased executed Jews

1:02:00  Jews are allowed to make a cross but not an image of Jesus on it.

1:03:00  Jesus sighting.

1:06:00  Jewish demons

1:14:00  Gay Jews reincarnated as dogs

1:17:00  A dog's life

1:18:00  Karl Lagerfeld bequeathed his fortune to his dog.

1:29:00  A couple reincarnated as conjoined twins

1:35:00  A Christian convert to Judaism cannot attend Christian weddings and churches

1:40:00  Martyrdom

1:47:00  Righteous gentiles are reincarnated. 

1:48:00  Tovia Singer and ignorant Jews who never read the Books of Isaiah, Jeremiah or Amos

1:49:00  The Christian interpretation of the Old Testament

1:51:00  Muslim attitude towards proeslytising Christians.

1:54:00  Jews cannot become gentiles.

1:58:00  Kiddush Hashem ie martyrdom

2:02:00  Golden Calf

2:05:00  Difference between making and worshiping an idol

2:13:00  Shame

2:16:00  Ignorance and evil

2:28:00  Low standards

2:37:00  Golden Calf

Discussing government breeding programmes with Vincent Bruno and the Book of Ecclessiastes with Jason Schweizer

8:00  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_Holy_Trinity_v._United_States

10:00  White people need to act like a minority.

11:00  Shaming and redemption

12:00  Patriarchy

13:00  Free love is progressive degeneracy.

14:00  Marginalising sluts and slut-fuckers

15:00  White Nationalists are out of ideas.

The Native American was matriarchal. 

16:00  Party pamphlets and sitcoms for Vincent's breeding plan?

17:00  Jews

18:00  Collective and selective breeding

19:00  Temples of breeding

21:00  White youth are degenerate.

23:00  Claire Khaw returns.

Individual liberty

24:00  Shaming people

26:00  Question for White Nationalists

27:00  Christians on Spaces

The Founding Fathers were Christian heretics.

28:00  Who will be King of America?

29:00  Rake is a retard.

The limited objective of White Nationalists is to go to their graves before the West collapses or repents with Islam.

31:00  Glory Days of America ended in the 1990s.

32:00   America is now in social and political decline.

Fear factor

33:00  Uncomfortable with the culture

34:00  Sharia would easily defeat feminism.

35:00  Nick Fuentes

Male solidarity

36:00  Masculinity

Corny Christianity and assholery

37:00  Marriageable men

39:00  Government breeding centres

40:00  Multiple male role models

42:00  Kibbutz

43:00  Empires lower standards of sexual morality.

44:00  Gay gets a free pass.

45:00  Absurdity of the position of the heterosexual white male

47:00  The wedding is for the woman.

48:00  Artificial wombs and widespread illegitimacy

50:00  Patriarchy is a breeding programme.

51:00  The cessation of slut-shaming and the Pill

53:00  Indians in America

54:00  Government breeding programs

55:00  Marriageability is a desirable heritable trait.

56:00  Genetic quality

58:00  Artificial wombs

59:00  Men looking after children in shifts

1:00:00  The infantilisation of Western men

1:01:00  Paying women to bear children

1:03:00  Secular Koranism

1:05:00  Carol

https://radicalisedrabbi.blogspot.com/2025/03/discussing-sexual-offences-with-vincent.html

1:07:00  If white people repent

1:08:00  Pam Bondi

JASON SCHWEIZER joins.

1:09:00  Vincent explains his eugenic programme.

1:10:00  The best semen will be available to women in birthing temples.

1:11:00  Significant female investment in pregnancy

1:12:00  AID

1:13:00  Birthing temples or public corporal punishment?

1:15:00  Roman bachelor tax

1:16:00  Pederasty

1:17:00  Secular Koranism

1:18:00  God is watching. 

1:19:00  The price of sex

1:21:00  Labour shortage

1:24:00  Marriage is a sacrifice and burden.

1:26:00  Spirituality of marriage

1:28:00  Shaming

1:29:00  Ecclessiastes

1:31:00  Je ne regrette rien by Edith Piaf

Secular Koranism on cause and effect as atheists and theists

Vincent Bruno https://t.co/0simG9S1IG

— Cyborg of Secular Koranism (@Book_of_Rules) March 20, 2025

3:00  Annoying gay man annoying Vincent 

https://t.co/MS9Y6pZSQM

— Real Vincent Bruno (@RealVinBruno) March 20, 2025

7:00  Ladies Bountiful

8:00  Genocide v slavery

10:00  Everyone speaks English.

11:00  Mass deportations cannot be conducted immediately. 

12:00  Pogroms cannot be conducted without being in government.

Americans have no official moral system.

14:00  Secular Koranism supports the First Amendment. 

15:00  A Century of Humiliation of America

16:00  Responsible married parenting

Patriarchy

17:00  U turn

18:00  Correction should be ASAP

19:00  Western media promoted the idea of reparations.

20:00  Western media is geared towards females.

21:00  Rules of evidence designed to protect the parties.

23:00  Rake annoyed at my draft letter to King Charles

https://clairekhaw.substack.com/p/suggested-letter-to-king-charles?r=8t05d&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true

25:00  Shared beliefs, values and rules

30:00  General malaise

31:00  Immigrants complain about immigration.

32:00  Americans cannot agree on immigration.

34:00  A one-party state is a Washingtonian idea.

36:00  There is no Suggestion Box.

37:00  Why people aren't interested in discussing solutions

38:00  Corrupt gatekeeping

39:00  We need to become unignorable.

We need the attention of powerful religious groups. 

40:00  Western psychosis is caused by taboos and blocked by sacred cows

41:00  Clarity and credibility of the message

42:00  Secular Koranism has a theist and atheist view on cause and effect

Discussing sexual offences with Vincent Bruno and the Secular Koranism School of Sharia

https://radicalisedrabbi.blogspot.com/2025/03/self-confessed-islamophobe-repeatedly.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atefeh_Sahaaleh

6:00  The Koran is silent on stoning.

8:00  False rape accusations

9:00  Rape

18:00  Marital status of  Atefeh

24:00  Is it true that a rape victim under sharia attracts the death penalty?

No, it is not true that a rape victim under Sharia law automatically attracts the death penalty. This is a common misconception that arises from a misunderstanding or misrepresentation of Islamic legal principles.

In classical Islamic jurisprudence (Sharia), rape is considered a serious crime, distinct from consensual adultery or fornication (zina). It is typically classified as a form of hirabah (brigandage or violent crime causing public disorder) or as coercive zina, depending on the school of thought. The punishment for the perpetrator, if proven, can be severe—ranging from flogging to execution—based on the discretion of a judge or the specific circumstances, such as the use of force or threats. The victim, however, is not held liable for the crime, as Sharia explicitly recognizes coercion as negating consent and thus exempts the victim from punishment.

The confusion often stems from the evidentiary requirements for proving zina (consensual extramarital sex), which demands four upright male witnesses to the act itself—a deliberately high bar to protect individuals from false accusations. If someone claims rape but cannot meet this threshold (e.g., by lacking four witnesses to the assault), critics argue that some interpretations or misapplications of Sharia might treat it as an admission of consensual zina, potentially exposing the accuser to punishment for qadhf (false accusation) or zina itself. However, this is not a universal rule in Sharia, nor is it the intent of the law. Many Islamic scholars and jurists, both classical and modern, emphasize that a rape victim’s testimony, supported by circumstantial evidence (e.g., physical signs of assault, medical reports), can be sufficient to prosecute the rapist under ta’zir (discretionary punishment), bypassing the strict four-witness rule applied to consensual zina. For example, the Maliki school of thought historically allowed for broader evidence in rape cases, and contemporary Islamic legal systems in some countries adapt these principles to modern contexts.

In practice, outcomes depend heavily on the specific legal system of a country claiming to implement Sharia, as well as cultural influences that may deviate from Islamic law. There have been documented cases—such as in parts of Pakistan under the Hudood Ordinances (1979-2006) or rare instances in Saudi Arabia—where victims faced punishment due to judicial errors, cultural biases, or conflation of rape with zina. These cases, however, are widely criticized by Muslim scholars and human rights advocates as misapplications of Sharia, not as its proper execution. Reforms in places like Pakistan (e.g., the 2006 Protection of Women Act) have sought to correct this by separating rape from zina entirely.

In summary, Sharia does not prescribe the death penalty—or any punishment—for rape victims. The death penalty may apply to the rapist if the crime is proven and deemed severe enough (e.g., under hirabah). Claims to the contrary often reflect either exceptional misapplications or deliberate distortions of Islamic law, not its foundational principles.

Here’s a hypothetical scenario to illustrate how the evidentiary requirement of four upright male witnesses for proving zina (consensual extramarital sex) under classical Sharia law might create confusion, particularly in relation to a rape case:

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Scenario:
In a small, traditional village governed by a strict interpretation of Sharia, a young woman named Aisha lives alone. One night, a man named Omar forces his way into her home and rapes her. Aisha, traumatized but determined to seek justice, reports the assault to the local qadi (judge). She has visible bruises and torn clothing, and a neighbor heard her screams but didn’t witness the act itself. Omar, however, denies the accusation, claiming that Aisha invited him over and that any encounter was consensual.

Under Sharia’s rules for zina, consensual extramarital sex requires four upright male witnesses to the act of penetration itself to secure a conviction. This high threshold exists to prevent slander and protect individuals from baseless accusations—imagine a scenario where someone might falsely accuse two unmarried people of zina out of spite; without four witnesses, the case would collapse, and the accuser could face punishment for qadhf (false accusation). However, rape is not zina—it’s a crime of coercion, not consent—and ideally should be prosecuted differently, often under hirabah (violent crime) or ta’zir (discretionary punishment), where a judge can consider broader evidence like Aisha’s injuries and the neighbor’s testimony.

In this case, though, the qadi adheres to a rigid interpretation and demands Aisha provide four male witnesses to prove the encounter wasn’t consensual. Since the assault happened indoors and no one saw the act itself, Aisha can’t meet this burden. The judge, misapplying the zina framework to a rape case, interprets her accusation as an admission of extramarital sex without proof of coercion. He warns her that if she pursues the claim without witnesses, she risks being charged with zina herself, which carries a punishment of flogging or, in extreme cases, stoning if she were married (though she’s not). Frightened, Aisha withdraws her complaint, and Omar walks free. Rumors spread in the village that Aisha “confessed” to illicit behavior, further compounding her suffering.

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Explanation of the Confusion:
The four-witness rule is meant to safeguard against wrongful zina convictions, not to obstruct rape cases. In this scenario, the confusion arises from the qadi’s failure to distinguish between consensual zina and rape, treating Aisha’s accusation as a partial admission of guilt rather than a crime against her. Properly applied, Sharia would allow the judge to use circumstantial evidence—her bruises, the neighbor’s account, Omar’s lack of alibi—to convict Omar under ta’zir or hirabah, without punishing Aisha. This misapplication reflects how the high evidentiary bar, designed as a protection, can be twisted in practice to harm victims when judicial discretion or understanding falters. Such outcomes, while not the norm in Sharia’s intent, have occurred in rare historical or modern instances, fueling misconceptions about victims facing penalties.

2:06:00  CONOPS joins. 

2:07:00  https://secularkoranism.blogspot.com/2025/03/secular-koranism-table-of-contents.html

2:10:00  CAROL joins.

2:11:00  Supreme Court

2:12:00  Secular Koranism is a new school of sharia.

2:15:00  Alcohol

2:49:00  Secular Koranism works in theory.

2:50:00  Legal tradition

2:51:00  https://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=18&verse=4

https://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=6&verse=108

https://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=17&verse=111

2:59:00  https://radicalisedrabbi.blogspot.com/2023/02/a-three-stage-legislative-programme-to.html

3:00:00  Hierarchy

3:02:00  Secular Koranism will not be stoning adulterers nor executing apostates.

3:03:00  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amendments_to_the_Constitution_of_the_United_States

3:06:00  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirk_(Islam)

3:07:00  Cherry picking

3:10:00  18:4 must be done at the highest levels.

3:11:00  Literal and permissive

3:19:00  Wife-beating verse is literal but permissive.

https://thebattlefieldoflove.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-interpretation-of-that-wife-beating.html

https://secularkoranism.blogspot.com/2025/03/secular-koranism-pamphlet-on-marriage.html

https://secularkoranism.blogspot.com/2025/03/secular-koranism-divorce-comedy.html