Wednesday, 12 March 2025

Raymond Cattell's Beyondism with Vincent Bruno



Beyondism

2:00  Systematic and thorough
5:00  The dangers of a monoculture
6:00  Sectarianism within established world religions
8:00  Marriage is eugenic.
Monogamy produces the most stable society.


12:00  Study of history to extract moral, religious and political lessons

Noahide update

15:00  Personality test

21:00  White nationalist link
23:00  Grok on Beyondism
30:00  You can believe in an afterlife and still be a Beyondist.
31:00  All religions are about frightening people into marriage. 
32:00  Americans never really had a national religion.
33:00  Cattell did not approve of Hinduism.
34:00  Hindu caste system is mirrored in Western society.
36:00  White people are only interested in white flight.
38:00  Relevance of Beyondism to the government and white nationalists
39:00  Matilde Ludendorff linked to Cattell
42:00  The egalitarian matriarchy would find Cattell's ideas threatening.
43:00  Morality and religion


46:00  The values of the Abrahamic religions is obedience. 
47:00  Karma AKA Cause and Effect in the Eastern religions has not been clearly articulated. 
53:00  Allowing me for individuality

Here’s a concise summary of the chapter summary from Raymond Cattell’s book, likely from A New Morality from Science: Beyondism (1972), based on the provided text:

Summary of the Chapter
This chapter explores the derivation of within-group moral values essential for group maintenance and progress within Cattell’s evolutionary framework, Beyondism. It distinguishes between common maintenance values (universal, non-relativistic ethics ensuring basic group survival) and unique community values (specific to a group’s evolutionary direction), both rooted in the goal of human evolution, not subjective relativism. The chapter emphasizes that moral laws enhancing group viability must be empirically defined, proposing five measurable criteria to assess group health (from moribund to highly viable). Current social sciences lack the precision to fully link individual behavior to group survival, though historical natural selection has shaped effective moral rules, often expressed as love and altruism, which Beyondism seeks to refine through research rather than divine revelation. 
Future advancements in social psychology are needed to quantify group dynamics—using small-group experiments (e.g., morale factors) and large-group analyses (e.g., cultural pressure, affluence-education, morality level)—to create a "syntality profile" of a group’s viability. This two-stage model links population traits and resources to syntality, and syntality to survival potential, acknowledging non-moral factors like resources also affect outcomes. Beyondism uniquely extends morality to genetic behavior, advocating for genetic engineering alongside cultural adaptation to avoid stagnation. 
Inter-group selection is slower and less efficient than individual selection, partly due to within-group "parasitism" (negative morality), which undermines progress and requires elimination. Evolutionary advance relies on variability, hybridization, consolidation, and pruning of unfit innovations, with science offering ways to test mutations efficiently. Each group has the right and duty to pursue its distinct culturo-genetic path, justifying border controls to protect these experiments, supported by proposed social science research centers. Finally, group survival as a moral criterion does not diminish the individual, whose creativity drives group progress in an interdependent relationship.

Key Themes
Evolutionary Ethics: Morality is tied to group survival and progress, not universal ideals.
Scientific Approach: Empirical research should replace traditional sources of ethics.
Culturo-Genetic Interplay: Both culture and genetics must evolve, with deliberate intervention.
Group Autonomy: Groups should pursue unique evolutionary paths in competition.
Individual-Group Balance: Individuals and groups are mutually essential in evolution.

This reflects Cattell’s vision of a scientifically guided morality, balancing individual behavior, group dynamics, and evolutionary imperatives. 

57:00  Cattell was against Catholicism. 

Cattell on Islam

1:00:00  Empire is the objective measure of human achievement attributable to religion.

1:02:00  Why Catholicism failed

1:03:00  Sharia

1:04:00  The Book of Samuel

Monarchy < Republic

1:05:00  The Restoration after the English Republic

The Whig Interpretation of History

1:07:00  Is liberty is an end in itself?

1:08:00  Sichuan Province treats unmarried parents equally.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/30/sichuan-province-in-china-removes-all-birth-restrictions

1:10:00  Patriarchy will take over matriarchy.

1:11:00  Belief in an omniscient God

1:12:00  Men would have to risk and sacrifice their lives to protect the group.

1:13:00  Sex selection process

1:14:00  Treating individuals well

Interpretation of the rules

1:15:00  Cognitive Dissonance

1:17:00  Cult leader

1:18:00  Service in a Christian Science Church

1:19:00  Testimony Night on Wednesdays

1:20:00  Vaccines and dentists

1:23:00  Cognitive Dissonance

Raymond Cattell, a prominent psychologist known for his work on personality traits and intelligence, did not directly focus on cognitive dissonance as a central theme in his research. Cognitive dissonance, a theory developed by Leon Festinger in the 1950s, describes the psychological discomfort experienced when holding conflicting beliefs, attitudes, or behaviors. Cattell’s work, in contrast, was more oriented toward factor analysis, personality structure (e.g., the 16 Personality Factors), and distinguishing between fluid and crystallized intelligence.

There’s no widely documented evidence in Cattell’s major writings—such as Personality and Motivation Structure and Measurement (1957) or his extensive work on trait theory—that he explicitly addressed cognitive dissonance by name or engaged deeply with Festinger’s framework. His research leaned heavily on empirical measurement and statistical modeling rather than social-psychological phenomena like cognitive dissonance, which is more interpretive and situational.

That said, Cattell’s broad exploration of personality dynamics might tangentially relate to concepts like cognitive dissonance. For instance, his work on "syntality" (group personality) and individual adjustment to environmental pressures could imply an interest in how people resolve internal conflicts, but this is speculative and not a direct reference. If he commented on it, it would likely be a passing remark rather than a developed theory, and no such quote is prominently attributed to him in the literature.

To double-check, I could search for any obscure references in his writings or discussions on platforms like X, but based on his known contributions, Cattell didn’t say anything notable about cognitive dissonance.

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