Monday 6 May 2024

The Word Salad served by Aarvoll to Joel Davis who is no longer Catholic


2:00  Aarvoll doesn't get it that the group claiming to be in receipt of divine revelation has a higher status than those who do not and obviously made up their own religion. 

3:00  Aarvoll wants to return to paganism.

4:00  Aarvoll sees the need for global Christianity.

Aarvoll seems to think he can mix Hinduism with Christianity.

5:00  Just because Aarvoll prays does not mean his prayer will be answered, particularly when he is just  repeating the mistake of his ancestors ie making up his own religion based on nothing but his own opinions, emotions and conjectures which no one agrees with.

Aarvoll dismisses the role of scripture in the forming of any religion. 

6:00  Joel points out that pre-Christian paganism cannot be reconciled with Christianity. 

7:00  Muslims at least are not pagans. 

7:30  Joel tells us about his religious journey towards Catholicism and away from it. 

8:00  The act of trying to believe in the Trinity has defeated Joel.

11:00  Joel was a confirmed Catholic. 


Matilda told such Dreadful Lies,
It made one Gasp and Stretch one's Eyes;
Her Aunt, who, from her Earliest Youth,
Had kept a Strict Regard for Truth,
Attempted to Believe Matilda:
The effort very nearly killed her
Christianity told such Dreadful Lies,
It made one Gasp and Stretch one's Eyes;
White people who, from their Earliest Youth,
Had kept a Strict Regard for Truth,
Attempted to Believe Christianity:
The effort very nearly killed them.

13:00  The Trinity and dualism 

14:00  Original Sin and Creation

17:00  You either believe in Christianity or you don't. Whether you do or not determines your final destination in the afterlife.

18:00  The Trinity

19:00  Christianity is an all or nothing religion and is totalitarian. 

21:00   Joel no longer has a religious affiliation and his religious affiliation with Christianity is "decomposing". 

Joel still believes in God, but is no longer Christian. This makes him a Unitarian, moving him closer to Islam and Judaism whose view of God is Unitarian. 

22:00  Joel: God cannot be so cruel as to make people believe in Christianity and then send them to hell for not believing in its absurdity, idolatry and blasphemy.

23:00  Joel did not find the Trinitarian arguments of Aquinas convincing. 

25:00  The necessity of evil

26:00  The purpose of suffering

30:00  Prophets were not morally perfect.

31:00  Upanishads

32:00  What is "real Christianity"?

33:00  If Jesus can be used as a franchise to promote Hinduism, then the brand is ipso facto contaminated. 

41:00  The elaborate and mystical approach of Aarvoll will not have legitimacy amongst normative Christians. 

42:00  Aarvoll should just become a pagan and stop calling himself Christian, says Joel.

43:00  What it means when a Westerner calls himself a pagan

44:00  Aarvoll has basically created another religion, and it is not recognisably Christianity.

48:00  Joel tells Aarvoll to pick a team.

49:00  Aarvoll: "Isn't there objective truth?"

50:00  Aarvoll calls himself a philosopher and Joel a rhetorician. 

51:00  For some reason, Aarvoll talks about "platonic sex". 

52:00  New Age people say they believe in Jesus, whatever that means.

53:00  Aarvoll continues to dream about founding his new religion.

55:00  Joe's "internal confusion and disunity"

57:00  Are we our intellect? We are our beliefs and our actions.

1:00:00  Doing the right thing

1:01:00  "Moral liberation"? 

1:08:00  Sodomy

1:12:00  Noble intuitions

1:13:00  "Overly philosophical approach", "philosophical verbiage", Lord of the Rings

1:14:00  Joel needs to feel "coherent internally" and not be overwhelmed by the cognitive dissonance of the Trinity.

1:15:00  No more cognitive dissonance

1:16:00  "Intellect is eternal"?

1:19:00  Rhetorician v Philosopher

Joel: "I am a racist." 

1:20:00  Aarvoll talks about eugenics without mentioning marriage.

1:23:00  Logos

1:24:00  Music

1:25:00  "You have to know the rules as a pro, so you can  break the rules as a master." 

Heidegger

1:31:00  Nihilism and Plato

1:33:00  Aarvoll:  "Aristotle was autistic."

System building

1:34:00  Mystery Schools and  Alexander

1:37:00  "Right and left brained"

1:38:00  The Aristotelian West

1:39:00  Nietzsche and the priest

"True aristocrats of the soul"

1:41:00  Humanism, Socrates and Hesiod

"Heraclitan Philosophy of Flux"

1:42:00  "Ontological hierarchy"

1:45:00  Warrior Magician King

1:46:00  Nerds and geeks and the Nerd Priest

1:49:00  Pragmatic alliance

1:50:00  Joel: Sometimes disagreement is good and necessary.

1:51:00   "What the Jews do"

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