10:56 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
If the distillation of Christian wisdom is the Sermon on the Mount, God help Christians.
11:02 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
Have you guys heard that Jay Dyer the Orthobonehead has given up Christian apologetics after losing so many arguments to Muslims?
11:03 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#1
Do you know that rabbis make a point of never having theological arguments with gentiles? That is because they fear the violence and spite of Christians when Christians lose the debate.
11:03 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#3
Rage is a thing we must contend with.
11:05 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
The point is that Islam can easily win theological arguments against Jews too, so Christians shouldn't feel that bad about losing the argument.
11:05 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
@aspasiapsychology I deal with anger all the time.
11:05 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
The "machine" is our outdated defensive psychic system
11:06 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
It is helpful that Brett's pastor told him he's on his own as far as defending the Sermon on the Mount.
11:07 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
This is how our psychic system works.
11:07 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
Do you know that William Tyndale was burned at the stake for translating the Bible into English? Probably, the Catholic Church didn't want to have to defend the Sermon on the Mount.
11:07 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#1
@aspasiapsychology Brett and Scott have chosen not to defend the "wisdom" of Sermon on the Mount.
11:07 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#2
It si a conspiracy to prevent the sharing of these conversations.
11:09 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#1
@aspasiapsychology It is the easiest thing to keep making the point that Christians suffer from having inferior scripture. What made them acquire three global empires was their militarism.
11:09 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#2
Breaking down through grief. As needed.
11:10 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#2
You need to get below the mind.
11:10 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#2
Into the heart
11:10 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#1
Because Christians were so warlike and killed each other over their many theological and political disagreements, they were better at war than anyone else.
11:11 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#2
Libidinal energy gone into channels that were available to it, but you had outgrown.
11:12 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
The reality is that out of the five world religions, Christianity is the weakest link to patriarchy.
11:13 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
Westerners just don't understand that Liberalism basically moved into Christianity and colonised it. That is why Tom Holland, the court historian, now says Christianity and Liberalism are the same.
11:14 AM
@Eolson-helper
Oh man! This is a great panel. I was about to hop on, but I think the symmetry of 4 in this space is good.
11:14 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#3
Olson, a star has 5 points
11:14 AM
@everettvroon
I agree olsen
11:14 AM
@Eolson-helper
But I am here for you Scott! :)
11:14 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
To let go is a loving act.
11:15 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
Amen.
11:15 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
@aspasiapsychology You see how quickly I summed up Western history? The economy and precision is second to none. But listen to the boys pretending not to understand and change the subject.
11:17 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
@aspasiapsychology They are just doing their usual chitchat, ignoring facts and logic.
11:17 AM
@Eolson-helper
Evening?! Are you in Australia?
11:17 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
@MaryamSafiyaKhan facts and logic are only part of the world
11:17 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
I am in Australia, yes. It is 8.20pm
11:18 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
@aspasiapsychology Chitchat is more important?
11:18 AM
@Eolson-helper
Nice! I hope to make it there some day. I watch Endless Summer 2 as a kid and have always dreamt of going.
11:18 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
@MaryamSafiyaKhan Oh the vibrant landscape of all that falls beyond facts and logic...
11:19 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
I am from New Zealand, even nicer than Australia!
11:19 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
All Chad ever does is whine and think he being is so deep by using big words and strum his guitar when people are talking to him.
11:20 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
Ian wanted to talk to him about something important and Chad's reaction was to end the stream.
11:20 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
We cannot hear the knock and we don't even know there is a door, yet.
11:20 AM
@Eolson-helper
Oh! Yes land of Sheep and Hobbits! I know a New Zealander and British gentleman. But he grew up as a missionary kid so he only had partial ties to NZ. He taught me rugby and cricket.
11:21 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
Cricket is the best.
11:22 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
Giving her freedom is the only thing that will allow to see if she will return home. It is a contradictory and painful thing.
11:22 AM
@Eolson-helper
Someone pointed out to me yesterday that Adam and Eve had the perfect father and they still wondered.
11:22 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
We must wander.
11:23 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
I dance in the rain with my kids.
11:23 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
People drive past us and look at us like we are insane. Which makes it even better.
11:24 AM
@everettvroon
I will be more undignified than this 😊
11:24 AM
@Eolson-helper
Wait, Chad, thinking about doing the dishes is t enough! No wonder my wife gets flustered with me! ;)
11:25 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
Like a boomerang - you need the home to be able to wander, to have the home to return to.
11:26 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
That you support him to leave, he will come back. He will recognise that as love.
11:26 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
There is a love that is understood only later in life that is about "you loved me enough to support my freedom and not smother me or insist on remaining connected to me"
11:27 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
Only then can a child feel they CHOOSE to connect to their parent. Not that they are FORCED or guilted into it.
11:30 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
Our lives are saying hello and goodbye, and finally goodbye to ourselves .. In the meantime, we should do something useful and accept a few home truths.
11:30 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
Look at you all getting psychoanalytic!
11:30 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
PVK told Chad to call his pa, but Chad is waiting for his papa to call him.
11:31 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
Chad clearly fears his daughter thinking of him the way he thinks of his own father.
11:32 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
Show a bit of respect for your father, Chad, but Chad is just a bundle of lists of what he wants and what he hates and nothing else.
11:34 AM
@TinyTimtom
Individualism — the emphasis on personal autonomy, self reliance, and the right to define one’s own identity is closely linked to the desire to control the narrative about self
11:34 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
Maybe your children feel visceral contempt for their parents. Did you hear how Ezra spoke of his father on Chad's channel? "My BOOMER [inject visceral contempt] dad."
11:34 AM
@TinyTimtom
people want to ignore the nonduality of life's reality
11:36 AM
@TinyTimtom
your bellybutton navel is primary source evidence that nonduality of individualism vs collectivism is "real"
10:56 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
If the distillation of Christian wisdom is the Sermon on the Mount, God help Christians.
11:02 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
Have you guys heard that Jay Dyer the Orthobonehead has given up Christian apologetics after losing so many arguments to Muslims?
11:03 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#1
Do you know that rabbis make a point of never having theological arguments with gentiles? That is because they fear the violence and spite of Christians when Christians lose the debate.
11:03 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#3
Rage is a thing we must contend with.
11:05 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
The point is that Islam can easily win theological arguments against Jews too, so Christians shouldn't feel that bad about losing the argument.
11:05 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
@aspasiapsychology I deal with anger all the time.
11:06 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
It is helpful that Brett's pastor told him he's on his own as far as defending the Sermon on the Mount.
11:06 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
Store them on your heart. No external drives needed.
11:07 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
This is how our psychic system works.
11:07 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
Do you know that William Tyndale was burned at the stake for translating the Bible into English? Probably, the Catholic Church didn't want to have to defend the Sermon on the Mount.
11:07 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
Delete the videos once they are on youtube, I agree.
11:07 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
Give it to the world, and let it go.
11:07 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#1
@aspasiapsychology Brett and Scott have chosen not to defend the "wisdom" of Sermon on the Mount.
11:07 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#2
It si a conspiracy to prevent the sharing of these conversations.
11:09 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
Blinders be gone.
11:09 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#1
@aspasiapsychology It is the easiest thing to keep making the point that Christians suffer from having inferior scripture. What made them acquire three global empires was their militarism.
11:09 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#2
Breaking down through grief. As needed.
11:10 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#2
You need to get below the mind.
11:10 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#2
Into the heart
11:10 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#1
Because Christians were so warlike and killed each other over their many theological and political disagreements, they were better at war than anyone else.
11:11 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#2
Libidinal energy gone into channels that were available to it, but you had outgrown.
11:12 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
The reality is that out of the five world religions, Christianity is the weakest link to patriarchy.
11:13 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
Westerners just don't understand that Liberalism basically moved into Christianity and colonised it. That is why Tom Holland, the court historian, now says Christianity and Liberalism are the same.
11:14 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
To let go is a loving act.
11:15 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
@aspasiapsychology You see how quickly I summed up Western history? The economy and precision is second to none. But listen to the boys pretending not to understand and change the subject.
11:16 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
@MaryamSafiyaKhan I don't think they pretend. I don't sense pretense.
11:17 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
@aspasiapsychology They are just doing their usual chitchat, ignoring facts and logic.
11:17 AM
@Eolson-helper
Evening?! Are you in Australia?
11:17 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
@MaryamSafiyaKhan facts and logic are only part of the world
11:17 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
I am in Australia, yes. It is 8.20pm
11:18 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
@aspasiapsychology Chitchat is more important?
11:18 AM
@Eolson-helper
Nice! I hope to make it there some day. I watch Endless Summer 2 as a kid and have always dreamt of going.
11:18 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
@MaryamSafiyaKhan Oh the vibrant landscape of all that falls beyond facts and logic...
11:19 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
I am from New Zealand, even nicer than Australia!
11:19 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
All Chad ever does is whine and think he being is so deep by using big words and strum his guitar when people are talking to him.
11:20 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
Ian wanted to talk to him about something important and Chad's reaction was to end the stream.
11:20 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
We cannot hear the knock and we don't even know there is a door, yet.
11:20 AM
@Eolson-helper
Oh! Yes land of Sheep and Hobbits! I know a New Zealander and British gentleman. But he grew up as a missionary kid so he only had partial ties to NZ. He taught me rugby and cricket.
11:22 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
Giving her freedom is the only thing that will allow to see if she will return home. It is a contradictory and painful thing.
11:22 AM
@Eolson-helper
Someone pointed out to me yesterday that Adam and Eve had the perfect father and they still wondered.
11:22 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
We must wander.
11:23 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
I dance in the rain with my kids
11:23 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
People drive past us and look at us like we are insane. Which makes it even better.
11:24 AM
@everettvroon
I will be more undignified than this 😊
11:24 AM
@Eolson-helper
Wait, Chad, thinking about doing the dishes is t enough! No wonder my wife gets flustered with me! ;)
11:25 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
Like a boomerang - you need the home to be able to wander, to have the home to return to.
11:26 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
That you support him to leave, he will come back. He will recognise that as love.
11:26 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
There is a love that is understood only later in life that is about "you loved me enough to support my freedom and not smother me or insist on remaining connected to me"
11:27 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
Only then can a child feel they CHOOSE to connect to their parent. Not that they are FORCED or guilted into it.
11:30 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
Our lives are saying hello and goodbye, and finally goodbye to ourselves .. In the meantime, we should do something useful and accept a few home truths.
11:30 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
Look at you all getting psychoanalytic!
11:30 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
PVK told Chad to call his pa, but Chad is waiting for his papa to call him.
11:31 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
Chad clearly fears his daughter thinking of him the way he thinks of his own father.
11:31 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#1
And yes to breaking cycles. The fact you are even conscious to these questions is 1000% ahead of the curve
11:32 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
Show a bit of respect for your father, Chad, but Chad is just a bundle of lists of what he wants and what he hates and nothing else.
11:34 AM
@TinyTimtom
Individualism — the emphasis on personal autonomy, self reliance, and the right to define one’s own identity is closely linked to the desire to control the narrative about self
11:34 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
Maybe your children feel visceral contempt for their parents. Did you hear how Ezra spoke of his father on Chad's channel? "My BOOMER [inject visceral contempt] dad."
11:34 AM
@TinyTimtom
people want to ignore the nonduality of life's reality
11:36 AM
@Eolson-helper
#3
I have the same thought, except instead of her dad it’s her brothers.
11:36 AM
@TinyTimtom
your bellybutton navel is primary source evidence that nonduality of individualism vs collectivism is "real"
11:38 AM
@Eolson-helper
#3
I don’t think we are meant to be an “I see” person though?
11:39 AM
@TinyTimtom
nonduality: individual vs collective, being vs becoming, object vs subject, nature vs nurture, essence vs existence, etc, etc, etc
11:42 AM
@TinyTimtom
in law, one's identity must be established to determine the jurisdiction for adjudicating to proceed
11:43 AM
@Eolson-helper
#3
Interesting Rob, what about the conversation made you think of that.
11:44 AM
@TinyTimtom
nonduality - freewill vs determinism, as much in human life is automatic
11:45 AM
@TinyTimtom
you dont chose your identity nor do you chose for your heart to beat or breath to breathe
11:45 AM
@Eolson-helper
#3
Jack Johnson - “I need this old train to break down”
11:46 AM
@WhiteStoneName
Common enemy ideas: Methodists
11:46 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
Oh, please. Have a bit of self-respect. Don't be calling yourselves Hobbits.
11:48 AM
@TinyTimtom
Scott has to talk about how stupid Mr T was, and GG wants you to know Dr King sinned, and Chris Howard wants to remind you Medgar Evers was assassinated and Confederates are heroes
