Sunday, 21 June 2026

Christianity is a tangled web of deception being woven since the 4th century


1:00  The paths of Christo-Liberalism
2:00  Gavin Ortlund v Stephen De Young

PVK on the GO/SDY discussion

4:00  Penal Substitutionary Atonement
6:00  Fake theological disagreement hiding a political disagreement
9:00  A package of beliefs, values and principles
10:00  Substitutionary or healing atonement
11:00  The solution of Islam
12:00  Jesus according to Muslims
13:00  The Trinity
14:00  Christianity is a heap of accumulated lies piling up since the 4th century.
15:00  The kinds of Christianity
16:00  Neither Christianity nor race can be your religion.
17:00  Jacob Faturechi v Luke Thompson
18:00  All Christian denominations are heretical to each other. 
21:00  Pan-Slavism
22:00  Monarchy
23:00  Hey Slavs
26:00  The Idiot by Dostoevsky
27:00  The Classical Theory of the Abrahamic God
28:00  The Trinity is morally and intellectually indefensible.
29:00  Stephen De Young does not explain why he converted to Orthodox Christianity from Protestantism.
31:00  Islam is absolutely logical. 
32:00  Jacob Faturechi
The Founding  Fathers were Unitarian.
33:00  Better mental health with a better moral and belief system
35:00  The First Amendment comes from quran.com/2/256
36:00  The First Seven Ecumenical Councils
37:00  Secular Koranism
38:00  CRC Synod 2026
David Peacock
39:00  Catholics showmanship
40:00  The priesthood is psychology and drama. 
42:00  Bald men fighting over a comb
43:00  Why fight over different lies?
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Sad Western men forlornly pursuing happiness when they should be pursuing Truth, Logic and Morality




Taking turns to speak is not having a dialogue.





15:00  Pursuing happiness through ambition, communication and action

16:00  Essay writing

17:00  Viktor Frankl

20:00  Neurosis  and remedial English

21:00  Orthodox Christiainity has never recognised Israel.

Muslim Zionism - Article 31 of the Hamas Charter


23:00  Israel is not Noahide.

24:00  Israel is a neocon project. 

25:00  Orthodox Christianity is where you will find the most antisemites.

26:00 The European Wars of Religion

27:00  WW1 and WW2 were wars between Protestant Teutons. 

28:00  European Royal Families

29:00  Pan-Slavism

30:00  Judging a book by its cover

31:00  Homicide

AI Overview     
          
For women, a current or former intimate partner is the single most likely perpetrator of homicide, accounting for the vast majority of female homicides globally. In contrast, men are most frequently killed by acquaintances or strangers in public settings.

Globally and locally, the statistics on who commits homicides highlight vastly different realities for men and women.

The Risk to Women
Global Statistics: According to data from the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), approximately 50,000 women and girls are killed globally every year by intimate partners or family members. This equates to one woman or girl killed every 10 minutes.

Local Statistics: In the UK, homicide tracking by agencies like the Femicide Census reveals that over 60% of women killed by men are murdered by their current or former partners.

The Danger of Separation: Research shows that the risk of homicide spikes significantly during and immediately after the breakdown of a relationship, with a high percentage of partner-murders occurring within the first year of separation.

The Risk to Men
Primary Perpetrators: For male victims, the dynamic is different. Men are substantially more likely to be murdered by friends, acquaintances, or strangers in public or community contexts.Intimate Partner Homicides: While men can also be victims of domestic homicide, only a small fraction (around 5% to 11%) of male homicides are perpetrated by an intimate partner.

32:00  Are Jews white?

33:00  How to insult an antisemite

34:00  Blaming the government

TLC

36:00  Rational engagement

37:00  Nanny men

38:00  Patriarchal moral principles

39:00  Licensed brothels for unmarriageable men and women 

40:00  Henpecked husbands

41:00  FDR: The only thing we  have to fear is fear itself. 

42:00  No decent historians.

43:00   Anachronisms of absolute monarchy and the church

45:00  Thriving and surviving are the same.  

46:00  Viktor Frankl

A nation of hypocrites

48:00  Meaning = justice

49:00  Shari

https://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2026/04/shari-on-canadian-lawlessness-and.html

50:00   "It's not fair!"

52:00  Tovia Singer's speaking style

53:00  Viktor Frankl

55:00  Sluts

56:00  Licensed brothels, wives, prostitutes and the slut

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E Michael Jones talks about happiness and the Trinity


1:00  Gratitude and envy
3:00  Needs and wants
4:00  Nothing lasts forever.
5:00  EMJ had a bike accident.
6:00  Happy Jordanians
7:00  Advertising, consumerism and desire
8:00  Status of morality
9:00  Making morality a matter of opinion
10:00  To stop making morality merely a matter of opinion, adopt sharia. 
11:00  Catholicism v Protestantism
12:00  Freedom, practical reason and pure reason
13:00  The evil inclination

13:45  Is EMJ saying he wants the US to be a Catholic kingdom?

15:00  EMJ is still whining about the Protestant Reformation. How far does he want to turn back time? 

15:45  The Founding Fathers were not rebelling from God, but from the institution of absolute monarchy. 

16:00  Would Americans be happier if they pursued justice instead of happiness? Small amendment to the Declaration of Independence as an act of repentance would be nice! 

16:45  Liberty is what we ought to enjoy after all the necessary laws are in place. God would know best what laws are necessary. 

18:00  Most Western converts are women. 

19:00  Gay sex is forbidden. 

21:00  Islam forbids racism. 

Jesus was a Jew and Jews are white. 

22:00  Racism and slavery in America

23:00  EMJ denies he is white. 

24:00  Jews supported feminism, gay rights and civil rights, according to EMJ.

Leo Frank

25:00  Are Jews really more revolutionary than gentiles?

Why blame Jews for the Russian Revolution? Marx's Jewish parents converted to Lutheranism. 

26:00  Jews destroyed the South, according to EMJ.

26:45  What is the evidence that Jews destroyed the South, as EMJ claims?

27:00  Betty Friedan's Feminine Mystique

28:00  Jews destroyed the family wage, according to EMJ.

29:00  "Feminism is another word for cranky old lady who is unhappy and doesn't know why."

30:00  EMJ talks about the feminine revolutionary spirit ie "natural spirit of rebellion in women". 

The story of Adam and Eve

31:00  "Women are the weaker vessel." Adam was very easily led by his rib. 

32:00  Iranian women are on the pill. 

33:00  Muslim/Catholic birth rates

BRAVE

In the United States, the Muslim birth rate is higher than the Catholic birth rate. 

Muslims: Estimated at approximately 2.5 children per woman, with those in prime childbearing ages averaging closer to three children per family. 

Catholics: Have a completed fertility rate of about 2.2 children per respondent, with recent trends showing rates dropping to around 2.1 or lower in some subgroups. 

Consequently, Muslim families in the U.S. currently have more children on average than Catholic families. 

34:00  Corrupt Catholic nuns

36:00  Abortion

Is EMJ really saying that gentile American women would never have been affected by feminism if not for Jews?  

If Americans Jews are liberal, it is because they were American rather than Jewish. This is because Judaism is stricter on matters of sexual morality than Islam because the punishments for sexual immorality are capital in Judaism but merely corporal under sharia.  

Sharia would have protected American women better from feminism than Catholicism.  

38:00  Islam and science

Avicenna and Al  Ghazali

39:00  Tony Fauci

40:00  Kinsey Report

41:00  Breast feeding

42:00  Serving people brings happiness.

43:00  "Grace perfects nature."

44:00  "Satanic American culture"

45:00  Catholic birth rates

46:00  Population reduction policy of the government?

It doesn't help the plutocrats to cause a labour shortage, but they refuse to discuss it or correct their errors. 

48:00  Some dumb sportsman

50:00  quran.com/21/31

51:00  Islam is a Christian heresy. 

52:00  Chinese Gordan and Kitchener

54:00  The American Empire

55:00  Inter-religious dialogue

56:00  JQ

Usury and war

57:00  Episcopalian Tucker Carlson

58:00  Gambling and alcohol

59:00  Isn't the percentage of alcoholics in Catholics significantly higher than in Muslims?

1:01:00  The Koran has actual laws of God and is the directly revealed Word of God while the New Testament is only the word of mortal and fallible  men. 

1:02:00  Why is EMJ calling God a tyrant?

1:03:00  How is the Trinity logos?

1:05:00  Did Al Ghazali really say you're a blasphemer if you say God is rational?

1:06:00  Philosophy

1:08:00  Aquinas, Avicenna and Aristotle

How is the Trinity logos?

1:09:00  EMJ's explanation of the Trinity

1:11:00  Long term and short term happiness

1:13:00  Woodstock

1:14:00  Johan Hari on drugs

1:15:00  Jews weaponised migration, says EMJ

The cunning of reason

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Orthodox Jew Jacob Faturechi talks to Orthodox Christian Stephen De Young (formerly Baptist like Jonathan Pageau) who appeared on Tucker Carlson


6:00  Arch Priest

47:00  Idolatry

49:00   God incarnate

53:00  Burning decide

56:00  "Kabbalism"  is a word antisemites would use. 

1:05:00  Rabbi Skobach

1:07:00  Jesus not mentioned in Judaism.

1:11:00  The Disputation of Nachmonides

1:13:00  Fake rabbi

1:15:00  Messianic Jew

1:24:00  Jew mocks Protestants - the Christian denomination most ardently Zionist.  

1:41:00  Virgin Birth

1:47:00  Idolaters

1:59:00  Noahides

2:04:00  Muslims are Noahide. 

2:05:00  Book of Jonah

2:06:00  God cares about gentiles. 

2:14:00  "All judgement is left to Christ."

Priests in Judaism

2:33:00  More or less spirituality

2:34:00  The Trinity is idolatry. 

2:37:00  Jess Purviance

2:40:00  Acts 15

Noahide laws

2:50:00  "Christianity is a Judaism viewed through a glass darkly."

2:51:00  Grabbing a Jew by his talit

2:52:00  Chosen People

2:54:00  Circumcision

2:55:00  "An unmarried Jew is not fully a human being."

2:57:00   The ultimate religion cannot be a proselytising religion, according to Jacob. 

2:58:00  Islam

3:00:00  Judaism and Christianity

3:09:00  Abrahamic religions

3:12:00  For the second time, Jacob says "God be damned."

3:15:00  Weaponised political Christianity

3:17:00  Jacob's position on Zionism



3:00  Mary allegedly denigrated
4:00  Douglas Murray too Protestant to be Christian. 
5:00  SDY not interested in being interviewed.
6:00  Penal Substitutionary Atonement is blasphemy, according to JF and SDY.
9:00  PVK not that Protestant.
12:00  Why did God allow Abel to be murdered by Cain?
19:00  Isaiah 53
22:00  Josephus on the Roman Empire crucifying so many people it ran out of wood. 
24:00  Hebrew pronunciation 
30:00  Enoch
31:00  Maccabees
36:00  Paul Vanderklay
37:00  Maccabean names of the associates of Jesus 
38:00  Why didn't Jesus get on with the Pharisees?
39:00  Christians used to be Jewish.
40:00  Defining Christian
Christians don't follow Jesus, they follow Paul.
43:00  Sabbath
45:00  Hypocrisy
47:00  Circumcision and the Noahide laws
51:00  Slavery
52:00  Book of John
54:00  Pharisees and Herodians
56:00  Joshua
59:00  Maimonides
1:00:00  Reading the Bible like a child
1:05:00  Meals including Passover
1:07:00  Paul
1:08:00  John Chrysostom
1:09:00  Lutherans and Orthodox Christians were antismites.
1:11:00  Leviticus
1:13:00  Sabbath
1:14:00  Sabbaths and Sundays
1:18:00  Hukim
1:30:00  Separation of church and state
1:31:00  James
1:32:00  Holy of Holies
1:35:00  Paul
1:36:00  Circumcision
1:38:00  Call SDY a liberal or something ...
1:42:00  Jacob boasts about Jewish privilege. 
1:44:00  Dispensationalism
1:49:00  David sinned. 
1:57:00  PSA
2:00:00  What about sacrificing your daughters?
2:03:00  Animal sacrifice
2:07:00  Kosher slaughter
2:11:00  Jordan Peterson
Fasting and feasting
2:12:00  Hammurabi's Code
2:13:00  Punishments
2:14:00  Karet, capital and corporal punishment
2:15:00  Islamophobic uncle
2:18:00  Penitents go to back or front of the line?
2:19:00  Teshuvah
Jeremiah
2:20:00  John, apostle, prophet
2:21:00  Elijah
Peter and Paul
2:23:00  Marcion
2:25:00  John Chrysostom
2:26:00  Antioch
2:27:00  Roman authorities
End of 4th century
2:28:00  Separation of Jews and Christians

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Why did @FrStephenDeYoung who appeared on @TuckerCarlson convert to Orthodox Christianity?


2:00  Viktor Frankl on love

Room empties when I arrive

Scott talks about love. 

4:00  Luke talks nonsense.

5:00  "Happy in death"

Scott  talks  nonsense. 

6:00  "Perfect love casts out fear."

9:00  Because of the "happy in death" comment, I say they have been discussing the how to avoid fearing death. 

10:00  Gavin Ortlund/Stephen De Young

12:00  Stephen De Young has not explained why he converted to Orthodox Christianity.

13:00  Accents

14:00  Luke talks nonsense. 

15:00  Stephen De Young was chasing  Jacob.


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Orthodox Jew Jacob Faturechi talks to Orthodox Christian Stephen De Young (formerly Baptist like Jonathan Pageau) who appeared on Tucker Carlson


20:00  Scott talks unrelated nonsense.

22:00  I mention  Rabbi Tovia Singer's theory that Orthodox Christianity has the appeal of being non-Zionist. 
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Is it a problem for Americans that America has no established religion?


1:00   America has no state church.

TLC is ecumenical. 

2:00  "Competent conversations"

3:00  PVK says again he wants to "rando" me.

Does PVK think the Third Commandment means "no idolatry"? But that is the First Commandment!

4:00  Gavin Ortlund/Stephen De Young dialogue not yet viewed by PVK

6:00  Whig history

7:00  Liberal values

8:00  Tories and Whigs

Corn laws 

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If I were a Christian Nationalist, I would have to decide which denomination to choose to promote my Christian Nationalism.

Why did  @FrStephenDeYoung  convert from Protestantism to Orthodox Christianity?

 @ToviaSinger1  has a theory: antisemitism. If you hate Jews, you hate Israel. If you hate Israel, you would prefer Catholicism to Anglicanism because the Anglican Church and America immediately recognised Israel in 1948. It took the Catholic Church till 1993 to recognise Israel. The Orthodox Church has never recognised Israel. 


The most innocent reason for Americans converting from the Protestantism of their ancestors is that they want a Christianity considerably older than the 250 years their republic has been in existence. 

A more nefarious reason - if you consider White Nationalism to be nefarious - is that Orthodox Christianity is more antisemitic and non-American and the Christianity of Putin and Dugin for self-hating Americans who hate what American Christianity and liberalism has done to their country and demographics. 

White Nationalists do not seem to know that Russia is the largest European country with the highest percentage of Muslim citizens. 

The European country with the highest percentage of Muslim citizens is Azerbaijan, where the population is 95–100% Muslim. 

If considering only European Union member states, Cyprus has the highest percentage at approximately 25.4%, driven largely by the Turkish Cypriot population in the north. 

Among the countries typically discussed in Western European demographic contexts, Bosnia and Herzegovina has the highest share at roughly 50.7–51%, making it the only European country where Muslims form an outright majority. 

Key Rankings by Percentage

Azerbaijan: 95–100%
Turkey (European part): 90–95%
Kosovo: ~90%
Albania: 55–60%
Bosnia and Herzegovina: ~51%
Cyprus (EU only): 25.4%
France: ~8–9%
Germany: ~6–6.6%

Estimates for the percentage of Muslims in Russia vary significantly depending on the source, ranging from 7% to 17% of the total population. 

Official State Data: The Russian Public Opinion Research Center (VCIOM) reported that 7% of Russians identified as Muslims in 2025. 

Academic & Independent Estimates: Surveys such as the 2012 Arena Atlas placed the figure at 6.5%, while other estimates range from 10% to 15%, with some sources suggesting up to 17% (approximately 20–25 million people).

Context: The Muslim community is the second-largest religious group in Russia, primarily consisting of indigenous ethnic groups like Tatars, Bashkirs, and Chechens, as well as migrants from Central Asia. 

United States Muslims make up approximately 1% to 1.3% of the total U.S. population. Estimates for the total number of Muslims range between 3.5 million and 4.5 million, depending on the methodology used by different research organizations. The community is notably young, with about 26% of Muslims between the ages of 18 and 24, and is the most ethnically diverse religious group in the country.

United Kingdom Muslims constitute approximately 6.5% to 7% of the UK population. Recent census data and estimates place the number of Muslims in the UK at around 4 to 4.5 million.

The population is concentrated in major urban centers like London, Birmingham, and Manchester. Projections suggest this percentage could rise significantly in the coming decades, potentially reaching over 10% by 2050.

Samoa considers ban on non-Christian religions
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Christians use talking about love as displacement therapy to avoid heeding their moral imperative


11:48 AM
@OOOTLAM
​​The 12 Steps is the unofficial religion of America. Step 4 is key to restoring sanity to the American Republic.

11:49 AM
@OOOTLAM
​​@TheyRobb Which Church would you say won the Wars of the Reformation? The Orthodox Church has lost its monarchs so the winner must be the C of E.

11:51 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​The matriarchy promotes mediocrity.

11:51 AM
@TheyRobb
#3
​@claire, I'd say Catholics won the Reformation, hence why Obama had Pope on WH balcony on the 500th anniversary of the Reformation and also seen with Biden, Vance, and Supreme Court, etc

11:52 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@TheyRobb The point is that Christianity did not even the defend the divine right of kings to rule. King Charles has fewer rights than the average US citizen.

11:53 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@TheyRobb There may be more Catholics, but the Pope in practice submits to the liberal order. Pope Francis was a Catholic universalist, but no one noticed.

11:53 AM
@TheyRobb
​​likewise Britan won the American Revolution as seen with Trump had King Charles on WH balcony of 250th anniversary of Revolution

11:54 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@TheyRobb NATO is the Delian League and its members US vassal states.

11:55 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@TheyRobb The British Royal Family but the puppets of the Punch and Judy Show.

11:56 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@teestrypzSOG Charles converting to Islam would precipitate a constitutional crisis and utterly destroy the C of E. That is how I see SK UK happening.

11:56 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
​@OOOTLAM wtf starts off a conversation like that

11:57 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@teestrypzSOG Just continuing the conversation from a previous stream!

11:57 AM
@TheyRobb
​​Claire, most dont comprehend what the World Wars was about, it was European royal cousins fighting over the Napoleonic spoils of Holy Roman Empire, which is part of Christian Imperialism - Christendom

11:57 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@teestrypzSOG You were saying SK was stupid, but I have a plan.

11:57 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
​remind me what I said about thr King, Islam, or CoE

11:58 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
​ooh I see

11:58 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
​yea, still stupid

11:58 AM
@βρεττς
​​It’s powerful when you know you’re popular. You have to keep that power and check with your responsibility.

11:58 AM
@TheyRobb
​​HRE wad the military arm of The Church

11:59 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@TheyRobb WW1 and WW2 was a "brother war" as White Nationalists would call it. It was the Teutons killing each other making the point that neither race nor Christianity can be your religion.

11:59 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@teestrypzSOG You're saying SK is stupid because you couldn't see how it could happen. I am telling you how.

12:00 PM
@TheyRobb
​​Just because middle caste subjects dont know they are peasants doesn't mean they're aren't so

12:01 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
​the plan is to for the head of the CoE and King of England reverts to Islam. And that's suppose to make reverse my stupid comment?

12:01 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@TheyRobb It is astonishing the Catholic Church is still around considering Rome fell in 476. The Catholic Church relies on unthinking Catholics who blindly follow the religion of their ancestors.

12:01 PM
@βρεττς
​​im complimentary

12:02 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@teestrypzSOG If King Charles wants to go down in history, that is what he could be doing as the British monarch who founded the Islamic Republic of Britain.

12:02 PM
@βρεττς
​​It was a profound statement to hear men were not created equally. Otherwise I played quarterback instead of Tom Brady.

12:03 PM
@TheyRobb
​​Charlemagne's First Reich usurped the Roman legacy, as was the Ottomans, and now United States

12:03 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@TheyRobb Are you aware of the verse in the Koran that warns people not to blindly follow the religion of their ancestors?

12:04 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​@TheyRobb Rum? Which verse?

12:04 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#2
​If they share the same “through line” the transition is easy

12:04 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#2
​But we look at particulars and not waves

12:05 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​As I keep saying, the Founding Fathers were proto-Muslim Noahides and heretical Christians whose constitutional republic ended Christendom in 1918.

12:07 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​Every new reveal reveals nothing new….

12:07 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​A constitutional monarchy does no one any good. A monarch only suffers to become a constitutional monarch because regicide is the alternative.

12:07 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​A Caliph is not a king. Dumb Muslims don't understand this either.

12:07 PM
@βρεττς
​​Some people have talent T. And respect respecting their better at something is love, isn’t it?

12:08 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#2
​I think democracy works…but not if the society gets too big and disconnected

12:08 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@TheyRobb Surah 30 is called The Greeks in my edition.

12:09 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@SeekingGenuine George Washington warned against political parties.

12:10 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#2
​@Claire and I agree it can be dangerous

12:12 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Islam is an imperial religion. The Founding Fathers were closer to Islam than Christianity. The First Amendment is supported by 2:256 of the Koran.

12:13 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Both Christianity and Islam are imperial religions. But what sane person wants to restore absolute monarchy?

12:14 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​America is guilty of malign encouragement by propping up the British monarchy and trying to foist a monarchy on the Iranians.

12:15 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Absolute monarchy is absolutely corrupt.

12:15 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#2
​Claire, why not jump on for this conversation?

12:15 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Tunji the Italian is from a republic. Does he want to restore the monarchy?

12:16 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@SeekingGenuine I feel I can make my points more economically and clearly here!

12:16 PM
@βρεττς
​​I think we know it would be “is it morality the most important thing? “

12:17 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​If people accept that Christianity was only used to defend the divine right of kings, it has utterly failed to do defend absolute monarchy because Christendom ended in 1918.

12:17 PM
@βρεττς
​​Republic democracy Olsen lol

12:18 PM
@TheyRobb
​​Republic is Roman, Democracy is Greek

12:18 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​If Christianity cannot defend the absolute monarchs it was supposed to defend, think what it is going to to you, non-monarch!

12:19 PM
@βρεττς
​​People just don’t trust the populous anymore. Therefore they’re struggling whether they think any form of democracy is beneficial. That’s the lie.

12:19 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Technocracies have been known to become extinct. It is religious groups that outlive ancient empires.

12:19 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#2
​Ship of fools! Go to the captain!

12:21 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​You cannot hold your rulers to account without a book of rules.

12:22 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​If only Christians would get over themselves and read the Koran to find out what they hate about it so much. I can only spoon feed you up to a point!

12:22 PM
@TheyRobb
​​the gentry is dead, a property deed is not synonymous with an allodial title

12:22 PM
@βρεττς
​​The constitution is the book of rules. But when people make it a living document that doesn’t mean what it actually says it gets confused.

12:23 PM
@βρεττς
​​We legislate morality

12:23 PM
@chrishoward8473
​​@OOOTLAM I've seen how Koran is employed. You're making an irrational claim that, should I read it I would come to a different end.

12:23 PM
@TheyRobb
​​legislature deals in ethics (state) not morality (church)

12:24 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@βρεττς The law is only as good as its enforcers and interpreters in the judiciary. Morallity is key and no one is interested in defining this.

12:24 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​@chrishoward8473 The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

12:24 PM
@βρεττς
​​What do you think legislators? Do you think they only do things through an ethical lens. When you’re a Christian nation primarily they’re going to bring morality into their legislative agenda.

12:25 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#2
​If you can’t speak with someone you disagree with, you are too zoomed in

12:25 PM
@TheyRobb
​​state is the realm of monarchs and church is the realm of bishops - ie jurisprudence of jurisdiction

12:25 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@TheyRobb Ethics is higher than morality which is higher than legality.

12:25 PM
@TheyRobb
​​morality is derived from mythos, ethics comes from logos

12:25 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Satan is rebellion from God.

12:26 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#2
​when YOU are too important, then you will miss the point of encountering love (sin)

12:26 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Tolerance is superiority to what is tolerated

12:26 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Is idolatry Satanic? Of course it is. If Christianity is idolatry, then isn't Christianity Satanic?

12:27 PM
@TheyRobb
​​people conflate thevtwo terms for colloquial connotation yet they do not denote the same concept

12:27 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#2
​I don’t think tolerance is love, it can allow for love if in good faith

12:27 PM
@WhiteStoneName
​​How many hours until it starts?


12:28 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​We should tolerate what cannot be helped. People cannot help themselves from falling into sin, but we can certainly uphold the law.

12:28 PM
@TheyRobb
​​the Pentarchy evolved from the Tetrarchy

12:28 PM
@WhiteStoneName
​​I actually agree with that last one, Claire.

12:29 PM
@williambranch4283
​​The law is sin

12:29 PM
@WhiteStoneName
​​"Who decides what is best for someone?" (that isn't abstract)

12:29 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Forget love, just concentrate on legality.

12:29 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
​I got a freebie ticket to help with the event, There's a pub meet up tonight but it starts proper tomoz

12:30 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Luke ... we know it is the assholes who impose their will on others

12:30 PM
@WhiteStoneName
​​They have to, at least some, in order to exist, Chad. As I see it.

12:30 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Chad ... with gnashing of teeth

12:30 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#2
​Is love something one does or something one is/participates within

12:30 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​We cannot love everyone, but we can agree on what the law should be, can't we, @chrishoward8473?

12:31 PM
@williambranch4283
​​My law not your law

12:31 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@teestrypzSOG You want me to have the freebie?

12:32 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@williambranch4283 God's laws are for everyone, aren't they?

12:31 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Yes seeking, participation is love, toleration involves no participation

12:32 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Because it feels like we are speaking as though it’s something we carry and drop like an object. Bit I think it’s more of a happening

12:32 PM
@TheyRobb
​​all dogs go to Valhalla

12:32 PM
@williambranch4283
​​G-d has no laws beyond raw power ... see Job

12:32 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Happening ... yes. Objects are materialism

12:33 PM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​@WhiteStoneName Thank you for agreeing, Luke. We just have to agree on minimum standards of morality ie the minimum of law for honest, reasonable and decent people.

12:38 PM
@WhiteStoneName
​​Belief is like love; it cannot be compelled; and as any attempt to compel love produces hate, so it is the attempt to compel belief which first produces real unbelief. - Shopenhauer

12:39 PM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​The matriarchy will always have the problem with women wanting to play Lady Bountiful.

12:40 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#2
​I just want to make the point that we just have to agree on the MINIMUM STANDARDS OF MORALITY.

12:40 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Talking about eating the things you love, Christians like to pretend that they eat the flesh of Jesus and drink his blood.

12:41 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Cannibalism is mandatory, Claire

12:41 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​You can’t proposition your way through a transformative experience. And love and belief is transformative

12:41 PM
@williambranch4283
​​This is mentioned in the Pyramid Texts of Unas

12:42 PM
@βρεττς
​​Claire with no balance once again

12:43 PM
@WhiteStoneName
​​Indeed, Robb. Good observation. Or was it a criticism.

12:43 PM
@teestrypzSOG
​#2
​I unironically love Claire

12:44 PM
@daringhobbit
​​the whole point of christianity is love, because God is love

12:44 PM
@teestrypzSOG
​#1
​drinking the blood and eating the flesh of the son of god regularly causes some changes

12:44 PM
@βρεττς
​​Love God. That enables you to love others in perpetuity.

12:45 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Hospitable people must control their exposure ... ironic

12:45 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#2
​You can put them in timeout

12:45 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Parenting necessary, but adults can't be parented

12:46 PM
@βρεττς
​​Boy Olsen, that’s what you needed yesterday. A little Beastie Boys action. You gotta fight for your right to party.

12:46 PM
@williambranch4283
​​We do, it is called truancy

12:46 PM
@williambranch4283
​​We must all struggle to reach top of tyranny

12:47 PM
@βρεττς
​​We’ve all stated at Claire

12:47 PM
@alexluna_Meta-Evangelical
​​2 Peter 1: 2-4 this is a quick read but with a ton of meat on it’s bones. I often go back to this.

12:48 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Studiously apolitical ... Captain Planet Unite

12:50 PM
@williambranch4283
​​People are corrupt, there is no good solution

12:51 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Make everything legal, like Congress/Parliament does with itself

12:51 PM
@teestrypzSOG
​#1
​Ryan, Claire's gonna hold you to that

12:53 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Christians don't even know when the Sabbath is ;-)

12:53 PM
@alexluna_Meta-Evangelical
​​The Sabbath is in Romans Ch 14

12:53 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Moses stubbed his toeses

12:54 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​There you go, Marc!

12:54 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Paul the Apostle was Jewish, not Roman, ironically

12:54 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#2
​I don’t trust words I trust people

12:55 PM
@williambranch4283
​​All Scripture, isn't history, they are interpretation already

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1:14:00  CLAIRE  KHAW joins to say people should agree on the rules and let  people to love and hate as they wish. 

1:16:00  Good parenting

1:17:00  Dumb questions by Olson

1:21:00  I reject Olson's vagaries. 

1:22:00  Choose a moral system

1:23:00  RYAN says God is love. 

1:25:00  The Ten Commandments,  Noahide laws and sharia
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Saturday, 20 June 2026

On trolls


28:57
@VoodooWoo-c9s
​​In theory, anything could happen. But aren't you people supposed to trust in God?

29:56
@VoodooWoo-c9s
​​Just make sure that what you say is not untrue, illogical or immoral and try to ensure that what you do say is in harmony with truth, logic and morality. Is that so hard?

30:15
@Eolson-helper
​​Good point BdW. There is a trust in God and prudence.

30:21
@VoodooWoo-c9s
​​The people who talk nonsense are winning the conversation.

32:13
@Eolson-helper
​​Some but not as much.

33:00
@VoodooWoo-c9s
​​It's all about self-expression.

33:17
@VoodooWoo-c9s
​​People want to say what they want to say.

33:45
@VoodooWoo-c9s
​​Define troll. Is it just someone who says things you don't like?

33:46
@SeekingGenuine
​​Are you saying the expression is the problem or the solution, Claire?

34:01
@VoodooWoo-c9s
​​@SeekingGenuine Both.

34:09
@SeekingGenuine
​​Good 👌

34:19
@SeekingGenuine
​​I agree

34:53
@VoodooWoo-c9s
​​The best way to deal with trolls is to let them say what they want and then ask them why they say what they say.

36:48
@Eolson-helper
​​Agree with Tayo

37:02
@stefaniecristos8514
​​I agree as well

37:21
@SeekingGenuine
​​But that’s only seen if you aren’t so zoomed in on the personal

38:29
@PaulVanderKlay
​​peak troll comment

52:49
@VoodooWoo-c9s
​​"Rob" is stable enough to be recognisable even when he uses a different account.

54:17
@VoodooWoo-c9s
​​People are scared.

54:48
@VoodooWoo-c9s
​​Fear is lack of faith.

58:34
@VoodooWoo-c9s
​​Claire Khaw had a chat with Alex Luna.

59:50
@VoodooWoo-c9s
​​What's attractive about this community is the stable instability of its members.

1:00:13
@SeekingGenuine
​​It’s the perfect balance Claire haha

1:00:58
@VoodooWoo-c9s
​​SK will make something of TLC, and in a good way too.

************************

32:00  Chad says something nice about me. 

50:00  PVK sayys my behaviour has improved since my identity has been acknowledged. 
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Celebrating Juneteenth is celebrating political parties, defying God, the ever-expanding welfare state that is eating American taxpayers out of house and home and the American Civil War

 

11:53 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​I would encourage people to defend their beliefs and show their colours, if they have any! It is the fact that they have no moral convictions that is so alarming.

11:55 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
​You’re not wrong, Roger. Juneteenth seems like a day worth celebrating for all Americans.

11:55 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@RogerDodgerEsq I still can't get over the fact that Olson supports Shari for saying that there is no difference between surviving and thriving. His mind is a jelly without a mould.

11:56 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@stefaniecristos8514 You might not want to celebrate if it you are a Southerner and are of the view that God did not forbid slavery.

11:56 AM
@SeekingGenuine
​​@RDE, not sure if this tracks, but I feel like there is a constant inappropriate relationship with “sensitivity” and making light of things or how things are expressed in western culture

11:57 AM
@SeekingGenuine
​​We are not great as speaking to or relating to that which we don’t understand

11:57 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@SeekingGenuine You could always ask questions if you do not understand!

11:57 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
​Claire, I surely hope there are not many people of that mindset left. But it is worth exploring the source of the cynicism.

11:58 AM
@SeekingGenuine
​​Claire, I totally agree. But you have to be listening and paying attention to ask questions. And people are addicted to covering their eyes

11:58 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@stefaniecristos8514 God forbade a long list of things, but He did not forbid slavery! Shouldn't we take His laws seriously?

11:59 AM
@βρεττς
​​It just be nice if we didn’t blame slow news travel of the day to call out racism. Can’t we just all celebrate the day and appreciate that. We arrived there and celebrate it.

11:59 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@SeekingGenuine We must tell the difference between people taking their turns to speak and having a dialogue!

11:59 AM
@Eolson-helper
​​Rob- I think we should celebrate freedom, and Juneteenth seems like a good thing to celebrate.

12:00 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​Celebrating Juneteenth is celebrating the American Civil War, isn't it?

12:01 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​We are still the slaves of our government, aren't we?

12:02 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#3
​@RogerDodgerEsq Olson can be very easily led.

12:02 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​I stood up to you claire

12:03 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
​Not all of us are practiced debaters. I need time to process before deciding if/how to respond.

12:03 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@RogerDodgerEsq What would George Washington have said about the American Civil War? "I told you so for not starting political parties!"

12:04 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@stefaniecristos8514 Asking a question gives you time to think.

12:05 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​rob - I am sorry you are used to being told that. but I do think celebrating when people where actually freed from slavery is a good thing.

12:05 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​People think being a good debater means making long speeches. The power of the question is often ignored. People remember the question which is only one sentence.

12:06 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@RogerDodgerEsq If we believe in God, we are His slaves, are we not?

12:07 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@RogerDodgerEsq It drives me crazy how Americans refuse to read George Washington's farewell speech. I have been trying for years!

12:07 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@RogerDodgerEsq Whigs won the Civil War.

12:11 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Eolson-helper You should stand up for truth and reject nonsense eg thriving and surviving are the same. Ridiculous!

12:24 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@RogerDodgerEsq Olson is afraid to have a proper conversation with me and adopts all kinds of obvious stratagems to appear to talk to me but to not take any of my points and then claim to have won.

12:25 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@RogerDodgerEsq Earlier, he tried to patronise the F out of me by treating me like a naughty child. He is only ignoring his moral imperative.

12:25 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​Claire - I gave you a chance to speak with me today. You decided to get mad and cuss me out and then leave. I am sorry you felt that way.

12:26 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​Claire- you want me to show back bone, but when I do you get mad at me :)

12:26 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Eolson-helper You're too much of a coward to feature the conversation between Megan and me.

12:26 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Eolson-helper You won't be man enough to come to my channel to talk to me.

12:27 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​It has nothing to do with cowardice and everything to do with your actions.

12:27 PM
@danjaasma2305
​​Where do you live, Chris?

12:27 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Eolson-helper But to be fair so was Scott not man enough to discuss what Megan and I said, except to damn it with faint praise.

12:28 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​The chat is more fun than the stream, sometimes.

12:28 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​Claire - so if we praise it we are damned?

12:28 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Eolson-helper Praise what?

12:29 PM
@danjaasma2305
​​What was this spicy stream yesterday that you speak of?

12:29 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​"scott...except to damn it with faint praise"

12:29 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​Chad - I would be the one getting slapped

12:30 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Eolson-helper Megan has more balls than Scott and Olson since we actually had a dialogue. What are you two so afraid of?

12:31 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@RogerDodgerEsq You are a indeed a wise man.

12:32 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@teestrypzSOG Is thriving the same as surviving as Shari claimed on O G Rose?

12:32 PM
@anselman3156
#1
​Chrysalis was a record label as I remember

12:32 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#2
​Roger, what livestream did this chat happen on? Luke’s? Jacob’s?

12:32 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@anselman3156 The Doors had that label.

12:34 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​Claire- I gave you a chance. You got mad and left. Who was the coward?

12:34 PM
@RogerDodgerEsq
​​@stef If I recall, I believe across multiple streams throughout the day

12:34 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@stefaniecristos8514 Glad you're back. I have just emailed Megan about discussing the American Civil War. I am very interested in American history!

12:34 PM
@anselman3156
#1
​I still have some old vinyl of that label Secular. Vinyl seems to be making a comeback

12:35 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Eolson-helper I made my point. No need to hang around after that. What do you find so scary about Truth, Logic and Morality?

12:36 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​Claire - I might ask you the same question. We were there talking about Truth, logic, and morality. You left.

12:36 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Eolson-helper Why don't you do a stream about how you agree with Shari about surviving and thriving being one and the same thing? You could invite Shari!

12:37 PM
@anselman3156
#1
​Monks Anselm, Bede, Bernard etc have good writings worth reading today

12:37 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#2
​Claire, it may surprise you, but I wasn’t alive back then. 😊. I watched Ken Burns this documentary on PBS history.

12:37 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Eolson-helper After I made my point, you just changed the subject, which is typical.

12:38 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@stefaniecristos8514 I unashamedly make the point that slavery should never have been abolished because it was the ancient form of workfare and social security.

12:38 PM
@anselman3156
#2
​It is a thought just how much valuable wisdom was not written down or conserved

12:39 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​Claire - you didn't make a point except that you thought i should be involved in lewd acts. I didn't want to continue that conversation.

12:39 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​There is a verse the Koran that warns people not to forbid what God has allowed nor allow what God has forbidden. Slavery is not forbidden in either the Bible or Koran.

12:40 PM
@anselman3156
​#2
​I have lots of scribblings over the years I think are quite reasonable and helpful for relatives to inherit but I guess could end up in the dump when I pass

12:40 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Eolson-helper I made the point that surviving and thriving are two separate and distinct concepts and that you are an easily led man too cowardly to feature the conversations between Megan and me.

12:40 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​Rob - what do you think about Claire's promotion of slavery?

12:41 PM
@Eolson-helper
#3
​Claire - you don't listen. that's your problem. I never once said they are the same. You jumped to conclusions and didnt listen to the rest of the show. You just like to call me names...

12:42 PM
@anselman3156
​​The awesome thought is that God conserves each one of our personal histories

12:43 PM
@Eolson-helper
#3
​Claire - I will never play that video. I will not be held captive to people who act in the manner you have with me. I am taking a stand. You should be proud! :)

12:44 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Eolson-helper You told some long story about your aunt and said you agreed with Shari that surviving is the same as thriving.

12:44 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Eolson-helper Did you watch either of them?

12:46 PM
@Eolson-helper
​#3
​Claire - wow, you're making fun of my processing the life and passing of my dead aunt who had Huntington's disease? And No, I did not say I agreed with Shari. In fact i said I initially ​'revolted against it' but that as I wrestled with it more I felt there was some wisdom there. Finding wisdom in something does not mean I agree with something.

12:48 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Eolson-helper Are you not answering my question about whether you viewed my two streams with Megan?


12:48 PM
@Eolson-helper
#3
​I have viewed them
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Olson agrees with Shari that there is no difference between thriving and surviving


10:50 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​You are haunted by your moral imperative.

10:51 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Your moral imperative is your superego.

10:52 AM
@OOOTLAM
​#2
​Is your superego based on facts and logic? Do you want it to be?

10:53 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Atheists and ethical monotheists claim that their belief systems are based on facts and logic, but which is more moral?

10:53 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​It was just three women taking turns to speak, and therefore not a dialogue.

10:54 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Shari said there is no difference between survival and thriving. Does Megan agree with that?

10:56 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Shari is the Queen Bee of TLC because she has the nicest speaking voice, speaks most clearly and is what the men would regard as a female elder.

10:56 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Shari is Orthodox Christian, isn't she?

10:57 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Christians are infamous for their anthropomorphism.

10:58 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Jews and Muslims try to make a point of avoiding anthropomorphism, which is idolatry and therefore a mortal sin. Why do Christian never care about idolatry?

11:00 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​There was a women's TLC on PVK led by Shari. That was really terrible.

11:01 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​@Eolson-helper You wouldn't dream of featuring any conversation between Megan and me, would you? We have done two so far.

11:02 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Some gardens are tended better than others.

11:03 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Typical female tactic: say something serious and then giggle.

11:03 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​@Eolson-helper You going to let me on?

11:04 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Megan, if Olson doesn't let me on, are you going to ask him why he won't feature either of our conversations?

11:09 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Typical woman wanting to muddy the waters.

11:09 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Good and bad - what is the difference? Olson: "Yes, ma'am!"

11:10 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Is Stefanie going to agree with Shari that thriving is the same as surviving?

11:11 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​There were two other women in the stream and neither contradicted Shari. It was NOT A CONVERSATION. It was women taking turns to speak.

11:11 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Was it some kind of fashion show?

11:12 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​I wonder if Stefanie listened to the conversations between Megan and me. Or is she making a point of not discussing it too?

11:13 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Now the subject is being changed/avoided, moving swiftly on ...

11:13 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Holy Spirit blah blah blah. What about the difference between thriving and surviving? It's all about Brett's pain.

11:14 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Stefanie, are you proud to be associated with these men who make such a point of ignoring their MORAL IMPERATIVE?

11:15 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Stefanie, do you see why I need to give these men a few hard prods from time to time?

11:16 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Oh, thank you, Stefanie, for speaking the truth about the difference between thriving and surviving. Dumb old Olson was going to go with Shari's narrative.

11:17 AM
@OOOTLAM
​#2
​Surviving - matriarchy - There are still people in your society but your empire is declining because you are an ageing and shrinking society. Christianity is not producing thriving.

11:17 AM
@RogerDodgerEsq
#3
​the ancient Greek concept of eudaimonia (living well)

11:18 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​You just need to understand that Christianity has been utterly colonised by liberalism. Is liberalism producing the thriving you want? If not, why not?

11:19 AM
@RogerDodgerEsq
#2
​According to the liberal arts and sciences, a flourishing man is one who realizes his full potential across multiple dimensions of life

11:19 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​The problem with women is that they have lower standards of sexual morality because they are the ones who suffer from unwanted pregnancy. It is a biological fact.

11:20 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Just read the Koran!

11:21 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Megan is a very nice lady.

11:21 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Ambiguity is a feminine stratagem.

11:22 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​I am grateful to Stefanie for not siding with a member of her own race, age and sex for purely tribal reasons.

11:24 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​The white birth rate is not thriving because white people are the racial group most affected by feminism which is dysgenic, anti-marriage and anti-natalist.

11:25 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​The point is that neither Americans nor Europeans feel themselves to be thriving, even without my analysis!

11:27 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Have any of you considered that all the five world religions are about supporting the eugenic practice of marriage? It is arguable that God was created to regulate our sexual urges.

11:28 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Shari is a strange old bird. She was telling us about the epidemic of shoplifting where she is and she is now saying she is THRIVING? She is lying to herself.

11:28 AM
@OOOTLAM
​#3
​Mrs Rose just witters on.

11:30 AM
@OOOTLAM
​#3
​Haha - a thought has occurred to me - Shari and Stefanie battling it to come up with the most sound arguments to be Queen Bee of TLC!

********************

29:00  Surviving and thriving are the same thing, according to Shari. 

32:00  Olson supports the Shari narrative of surving and thriving being the same thing.

34:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins. 

35:00  I ask why Olson refused to discuss the two conversations between Megan and me while agreeing with Shari's dumb comment that thriving and surviving are the same.  
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Thursday, 18 June 2026

Discussing toxic femininity


10:00  O G Rose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7RHdt07TDA - women take turns to talk about not much. 

6:00  "True death" is the death of your society/nation/empire/civilisation.

9:00  The latest buzzword seems to be "embodiment". 

12:00  I hallucinated about the destination of a train because I wanted it to be the one that took me to my final destination, but it was in fact yet another train that I didn't want.

13:00  Christians anthropomorphise God.

14:00  Hallucination

17:00  Spiritual emptiness

Behavioural compulsions

18:00  Malign encouragement by the government

19:00  Examples of more unnecessary and oppressive laws

21:00  Loss of authority and in particular parental authority

22:00  Boredom and imagination

23:00  Giving  sound advice

24:00  Liberal parents

25:00  "I told you so!"

28:00  Teaching children table manners

29:00  Chores

Setting boundaries

30:00  Unmarried motherhood

31:00  Matriarchy

Surviving and thriving

33:00  The right decisions

Sex without commitment

34:00  Toxic femininity causes toxic masculinity.

35:00  A vicious cycle of sex and promiscuity

37:00  Christian middle class

38:00  Denominational triumphalism

39:00  Organised religion

40:00  Tribalism

41:00  Marriage is a battle for supremacy between the parties to the marriage. 

43:00  The Supreme Authority

44:00  Christian hierarchy

46:00  Thriving and surviving

Liberalism

47:00  Absolute monarchy is abuse of power.

48:00  Galileo and vaccines

If Americans cannot hold on to their rights, what hope is there fore the rest of us?

50:00  What is normal and is that good?

51:00  Organised action

52:00  Lockdown

53:00  Belies, values and rules

55:00   Families riven by lockdown

56:00  The greatest good of the greatest number

58:00  Regret and guilt

59:00  Moral convictions

1:00:00  Belief in the afterlife

Can you be a Christian without a denomination?

1:01:00  Book of Acts

1:03:00  Knock and the door shall be opened, ask and it will be  given

1:06:00  The Abrahamic religions

1:07:00  Roman Catholicism

Edict of Milan

1:09:00  Christian as a career. 

1:10:00  Council of Nicaea

Bishop Ireneus

1:13:00  Matthew 33

1:14:00  Edict of Thessalonica

1:15:00  The history of Christianity is the history of the West.

1:18:00  Constantine's sons

1:19:00  Second Ecumenical Council

1:19:00  Maximus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximus_the_Confessor

1:20:00  Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's.

1:21:00  The difference between religion and politics is a distinction without a difference.

1:24:00  To spare the vanquished and subdue the proud - Roman policy

1:25:00  The fall of the Soviet Union

1:26:00  Yugoslavia

1:27:00  Genghis Khan's empire lasted only 162 years.

1:29:00  The Ten Commandments are a list of rules.

1:30:00  Habeas corpus

1:31:00  It is only logical to believe that good will be rewarded and evil punished if God exists to do this. 

1:32:00  Our belief system should be in harmony with facts and logic.
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Will TLC ask Objectivist Craig Biddle why he won't engage with me?


12:02 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Would people like to help me troll Craig Biddle?

12:02 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​I guess I am sort of recruiting a keyboard army.

12:02 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​Claire, is it inherently bad to hop denominations? If so, why?

12:03 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Surely TLC would like to help me troll Craig Biddle? I suspect he will not be accepting my challenge to engage on the subject of objective morality, being an Ayn Rand Objectivist.

12:04 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@stefaniecristos8514 Yes, because the Trinity is idolatry so it won't help your salvation if Jesus ain't God.

12:05 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@stefaniecristos8514 Also, there is no point being a Unitarian Christian because you get denounced as a heretic by those pesky Trinitarians, as Sam Tideman found to his cost.

12:06 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​I have already commented on Craig Biddle's most recent shorts which he may not yet have deleted. It is outrageous that he is influencing young American minds with his glorification of selfishness.

12:07 PM
@βρεττς
​​It’s kinda the name of the game for people that don’t believe in God.

12:08 PM
@Jzepp
#3
​@OSK I wouldn’t worry about that too much. There is a never ending list of that kind of guy out there. Better to let him say his peace, he will reveal his true colors as he goes.

12:08 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Do you know what Craig Biddle said to his streaming assistant when the young man complained about having a brick thrown through his car window in SF? He said he wouldn't live in SF!

12:09 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Jzepp It's so easy to argue against atheism though. You basically ask them why they wouldn't want to believe good will be rewarded and evil punished and say they must be evil.

12:11 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Jzepp It is easy to make the point that ethical monotheists know what caused the Big Bang while theoretical physicists are still scratching their heads about its causes.

12:11 PM
@Jzepp
#3
​@OSK I guess I would approach it in a way that attempts to point out the flaws in a way that would let Truth to shine on his idea so he sees it in the proper light somehow. It’s difficult to do.

12:13 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Jzepp Ask a question and leave it at that. A question is only one sentence. There really is no need to get on your soapbox.

12:14 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Jzepp A series of questions is your elevator pitch, basically. Will you be offering any hospitality on 4 July?

12:14 PM
@teestrypzSOG
​​Claire is notoriously a bad listener. She just wants to talk at you. Don’t ask her to reflect on her position

12:14 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@teestrypzSOG What position would you like me to reflect on?

12:15 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
​The foolishness of secularism

12:16 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Jzepp You could do a pizza restaurant free meal on 4 July to the diner who answers best the question "What is the nature and purpose of religion?"

12:16 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@teestrypzSOG I have to support the First Amendment!

12:17 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Jzepp This is the least you can do!

12:17 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​I assume you will all be in some social gathering on 4 July?

12:19 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​250 is a quarter of a millennium! @chrishoward8473

12:19 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@everettvroon You won't even undertake to start a conversation about the nature and purpose of religion with your nearest and dearest?

12:19 PM
@teestrypzSOG
​#3
​Even most trump voters aren’t celebratory cuz of the war

12:20 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
​I thought conservatives wanted to keep politics out of sports?

12:20 PM
@everettvroon
#1
​@OfficialSecularKoranism that seems like a trap question, I'll pass

12:21 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@teestrypzSOG I'd have thought citizens dissatisfied with their government could be asking themselves if they have the wrong religion since their ruling classes are so corrupt. @chrishoward8473

12:21 PM
@anselman3156
​​all rulers tend to corruption

12:22 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
​The boys kneeling few years ago were portrayed as traitors. Now Dana white can’t get trump piece out his mouth and gets cheered

12:22 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
​Sometimes, Rob has a point

12:22 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@everettvroon It is an open question, not a leading question. A leading question would be "Americans really need an OFFICIAL MORAL SYSTEM, don't they?" @chrishoward8473

12:23 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@anselman3156 So you need a book of rules. Americans have a constitution, the British do not.

12:24 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@everettvroon Canadians are a vassal state of a US vassal state.

12:26 PM
@anselman3156
​​My highest views videos were on C S Lewis-tens of thousands of views.

12:27 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​C.S. Lewis did not formally study theology or attend seminary.
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The matriarchy is both malign and mediocre


10:49 AM
@YoavBressler
​​Female participation in the army is a matter in the news today. It does not hinder traditional roles within the family. It is starting to cause some other problems.

11:00 AM
@GrimGriz
#3
​damn, he knows it well, and we would be in better shape as nation if it took off 6 yrs ago...

11:01 AM
@YoavBressler
​​Samuel II A 18

11:02 AM
@GrimGriz
#3
​churches being empty was a big part too

11:02 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@YoavBressler Rabbi Mizrachi said there is a problem of female soldiers having abortions in the IDF.

11:03 AM
@YoavBressler
​​@OfficialSecularKoranism , abortions is a problem. That is not the greatest problem

11:04 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@YoavBressler What's the greatest problem in the IDF then?

11:04 AM
@YoavBressler
​​Chapter 1 verse 18 - to teach the sons of Judea archery

11:05 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@YoavBressler Sounds like Jews are being experimented on in social and political experiments, and possibly with vaccines.

11:06 AM
@YoavBressler
​​In Hebrew is says to teach them archery. Paint ball for J.

11:07 AM
@YoavBressler
​​@OfficialSecularKoranism - yes the jews are being tested, always

11:08 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​The Noahide laws are key to getting America on the moral straight and narrow of morality again. Any interest in discussing this, @Eolson-helper?

11:09 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@YoavBressler I see that arms manufacturers are now using "tested in Israel" as a mark of approval.

11:15 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​If you have to make your women soldiers, you have already lost the war.

11:15 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​The justification of the lowering of standards

11:15 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​It makes the blood run cold. It should make the blood run cold for gentiles too, but Olson is moving swiftly on ....

11:16 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#3
​Across many categories

11:16 AM
@YoavBressler
​​@OfficialSecularKoranism there were fighting women in the red army in ww2. Have they already lost?

11:16 AM
@everettvroon
​#1
​"wokeism" changed what was highest - diversity and inclusiveness are the highest values. Unfortunately doesn't always survive contact with reality.

11:16 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@YoavBressler I wasn't aware of that.

11:16 AM
@Eolson-helper
​​rob- what civilization wasnt? not saying it hasn't happened just asking

11:17 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​The matriarchy promotes mediocrity.

11:17 AM
@everettvroon
#1
​Ship of fools is a great metaphor Bee

11:18 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Are Americans about to admit that America is a matriarchy?

11:19 AM
@GrimGriz
​​the rainbow mafia is not s matriarchy

11:19 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@YoavBressler Maybe we can talk later.

11:20 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Christianity is the ultimate idolatry.

11:20 AM
@GrimGriz
​​if Claire believed in the koran, she'd shut up for being female :)

11:21 AM
@teestrypzSOG
​​Sounds like I missed a spicy stream, might stay back to catch up instead of catching the train to Chris H

11:21 AM
@GrimGriz
​​she just persistent troll or being paid by China

11:21 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@GrimGriz There is nothing in the Koran that tells women to be quiet, unlike the New Testament.

11:21 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
​Claire, please obey the Koran

11:22 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​I am not even asking anyone to fight battles, just consider heeding their moral imperative.

11:22 AM
@everettvroon
#1
​"toxic" in my mind is the kind that elevates my masculinity above the wellbeing of others

11:23 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@teestrypzSOG Just go back to what Yoav was saying about experiments being conducted on Jews in Israel by Christian Zionists.

11:23 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Toxic masculinity is basically male criminality.

11:23 AM
@everettvroon
#1
​It creates feelings of fear in others rather than safety

11:23 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
​Is all this over Bronze Age perv? 😂

11:24 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Eolson-helper You were thinking of BRONZE AGE PERVERT not to be confused with CLAVICULAR.

11:24 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​Hierarchies seem to emerge all the time and everywhere…. They can be healthy or unhealthy, no?

11:25 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Eolson-helper Female soldiers is the inevitable logic of feminism.

11:26 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@stefaniecristos8514 Being a matriarchy means that your civilisation is mortally ill.

11:27 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​ChatGPT says: Toxic masculinity is a term used to describe cultural expectations of manhood that encourage harmful behaviors or attitudes, rather than masculinity itself.

11:27 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@teestrypzSOG The Koran requires people to struggle against injustice, oppression, tyranny and error in words at least.

11:27 AM
@GrimGriz
​​theyve been selling that for a long time

11:27 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​Not bad for an LLM

11:27 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
​Also requires women to stfu

11:27 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@GrimGriz I will have you know that @Eolson-helper was saying I was being paid by the CIA!

11:28 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Toxic femininity is unmarried mothers.

11:28 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​But the definition of harmful has been expanded these days

11:28 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@teestrypzSOG Quote me the verse in the Koran that says women have to shut up.

11:28 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
​This entire space has been about toxic femininity

11:29 AM
@GrimGriz
​​it's word magic b.s.

11:29 AM
@FungsiYukHunPo
​​TLC has a white supremacy worldview

11:29 AM
@GrimGriz
​​dont give them power

11:29 AM
@AdoAboutNoThing
​​Maybe it’s silly, but I think of either genders “toxic” form as mediating relationship with power instead of love.

11:29 AM
@Eolson-helper
​​rob - really?

11:29 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@teestrypzSOG Toxic femininity (never married mothers) creates toxic masculinity (male criminality).

11:29 AM
@FungsiYukHunPo
​​yes, im being serious...

11:30 AM
@GrimGriz
​​rob is racist

11:30 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
​Shit, I’m racist too. Not just Rob

11:30 AM
@Eolson-helper
​​rob - well you know me and thats not what this is about

11:30 AM
@FungsiYukHunPo
​​racism is systemic, bigotry is extreme prejudice.. racial codes are still used in governance

11:31 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
​So cute when Olson talks to Rob like he’s real

11:31 AM
@GrimGriz
​​you don't accuse like Satan does with yours tee

11:31 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​Can you give an example, Fungsi?

11:31 AM
@FungsiYukHunPo
​​eg US census uses a race category for one group and ethnic designations fir everyone else

11:32 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​It is the easiest thing in the world to show bigots that their greatest victims are themselves.

11:32 AM
@GrimGriz
​​white won the race, that's why we get global server reset

11:33 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Islam is absolutely logical, but Brett refuses to engage on the subject though he has the intelligencec to do so. He just wants to anticipate his admission to heaven while praying to Jesus.

11:33 AM
@GrimGriz
​​sharia more of you shite opinion Claire, we are almost convinced.
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