Tuesday 26 October 2021

The moral failure of the Right - How antisemitism has crippled conservatism



Was Alison Chabloz, the political prisoner who was imprisoned for Holocaust Denial in a country that officially does not have Holocaust Denial laws, mentioned at all?

Antisemitism is an idea, and all ideas have a purpose and can be used as ideological weapons. Antisemitism exists, and it would be more profitable to analyse its origins and purpose rather than deny either its existence. Officially, antisemitism is not against the law. Unofficially, you can be imprisoned for Holocaust Denial, even in a Western country that has no laws against Holocaust Denial such as the UK, as Alison Chabloz has been for her song mocking fake survivors of the Holocaust.

The Bible is indeed an antisemitic work because the Christian narrative is that Jews convicted Jesus for blasphemy causing him to be crucified by the Romans. However, if Jesus were to be put before the Sanhedrin again and asked if he intended to be worshiped by humanity as the co-equal of the God of supreme and eternal Abrahamic God who created the Universe, he would be again convicted of blasphemy whose penalty is death for Jews.

You seem to be saying that antisemitism is OK because the New Testament says it is OK. Are you Christian, by any chance?

Antisemitism should be equated with God punishing Jews for not properly teaching the Noahide laws in 2000 years of Christian history.

We know Conservatism is crippled because it has failed to conserve anything worth conserving about Christianity. What is worth conserving about Christianity anyway? Its idolatry? Its blasphemy? Its vague extremist commands? Is any Christian theologian claiming that the Sermon on the Mount is superior to either the Torah or the Koran?

32:03
GodsOwnPrototype
​Envy is the cause of all attempts to subvert & destroy European Nations

Envy of what by whom?

33:51
tRad Dad
​Christianity & it's people changed somehow some way
When Western nations stopped burning heretics at the stake, belief in Christianity slowly died.

34:54
Enduro
​I didn’t care about them before they openly declared their intentions for me and I would’ve probably been a center-right “liberal driving at the speed limit” had they not been clear with their intent
1) Who has been clear of their intentions for you?
2) What are these intentions?
3) When were they "openly declared"?

37:08
Enduro
​I’d argue the reason why people joined the dissident right instead of the controlled mainstream right is because the dissident wasn’t afraid to acknowledge the root of their problems unlike everyone
What are the root of the problems of the Dissident Right? Their antisemitism? Their Islamophobia? Their racism? Their ignorance? Their arrogance? Their low status low information low education stupidity?

37:40
Stephen JJames
​Claire Khaw says Ralph is just trying to usurp her position as Head rabbi ball-fanner
Claire Khaw's remains on course with her stratagem of asking Jews if they were made God's Chosen People to properly teach the Noahide laws to gentiles and demanding to know when they are finally going to do it after 2000 years of Christian history.

37:47
Sophia Films
​“Free speech for me, not thee! Nationalism for me, not thee!”
Do Jews promoting social conservatism enjoy free speech? It is social conservatism that is being banned by liberalism, isn't it?

37:56
An Fómhar
​we need to be careful of assuming that H-caust denial is the norm among the DR, as it's not. Even I would question the historical accuracy of some aspects of the mainstream narrative on the H-caust.
quran.com/2/256 supports the principle that Holocaust Denial should not be a crime. Too bad the Dissident Right as well being antisemites are also Islamophobes.

39:20
Sophia Films
​How come christians and whites dont have such “cards?”
Whites are not Christians and Christianity is no longer a functioning religion because no one really knows what a Christian principle is other than the principle of worshiping a deceased Jew as the co-equal of the supreme and eternal Abrahamic God which probably no Westerner does, not even the Archbishop of Canterbury or the Pope.

40:26
An Fómhar
​I agree though that's it's a completely poisoned chalice to in any way question any aspects of the H-caust. It shouldn't be, but it is. The DR have to accept this fact rather than digging more holes.
The Dissident Right are identified by their corruption, cowardice and intellectual dishonesty, just like the politicians they complain about, but without being as low education low information and low status as the corrupt and incompetent politicians they complain about.

43:22
Béla Nyúl
​Buying into the "antisemitism" narrative is just conformism or cowardice. If you are kicked out of 109 parties, is it the host's fault or yours?
If you are kicked of countries because you are a creditor and your debtor nations kick you out because of the usury you practise whose usurious loans they no longer want to repay, then you should convert to Islam and ban usury.

48:36
Unkn0wn_289
​Who are the globalists?
The globalists would be those those operating the global empire.

48:36
krakatit77
​Stop The White Genocide
Why is it called "White Genocide" when whites in the West no longer have a functioning religion and refuse to acknowledge this? Why is it called genocide when the race in question is the one what refuses to take its bitter medicine of Islam? Why not call it self-genocide instead?

48:43
Béla Nyúl
​They overpopulated, so they want to expand to greater Israel
If Israelis adopted Islam, this would be more easily done.
 
49:02
Lord England
​does a real far-right even exist?
When you say "real" do you mean "effective"? If so, the answer is no, unless it has a big idea and wise leadership. Who is the wisest and most charismatic and principled person in the Dissident Right?

49:28
Conan
​Everybody should have their sights on a Council seat in their area. Lack of money isn't an excuse. It's about £100 to stand. Another £100 for 5000 leaflets.
Only a big idea that would change the system as well as the rules would be effective in stopping the rot.

54:09
Real Tv3
​AIPAC is raping the US and have been doing it for decades
How so?

56:39
Real Tv3
​jeffery epstein made sure the US supports israel hint hint
The Wolfowitz Doctrine is public and official.

57:40
The McCarthy Plan
​I've worked for a US Congressman and Presidential candidate. AIPAC is a BIG issue
So become a one-party state and avoid AIPAC choosing your Presidential candidate.

59:41
The McCarthy Plan
​There is no theocratic justification for the Zionist project
What is the "Zionist project"?

1:00:05
Béla Nyúl
​The Christian zionist influence is BS, they can never get anywhere on the abortion issue, yet miraculously they get their way when they want to support Israel
If the Israel were anything other than an American colonial outpost, wouldn't they be able to kick out Christian missionaries converting Israeli Jews to Christianity? 

1:13:46
Mr NiceGuyWinkyface
​being a nationalist without hating the J just means you're an uninformed nationalist
"Uninformed" about what?

1:16:18
Real Tv3
​interest is forbidden in every religion except judaism
Which verse of the New Testament forbids usury?

1:18:40
Enduro
​Yes there is definitely no laws out in place done to deliberately discriminate against working class whites and there is no overrepresented group discriminating against them
Is there even a white working class to discriminate against?
 
1:21:41
Béla Nyúl
​Eric Striker: "If an NRX starts blowing hot air about "the cathedral" just ask them how come leftists never win on Israel?"
What would constitute a leftist win on Israel?

1:26:05
Mr NiceGuyWinkyface
​lack of antisemitism has crippled conservatism
If Conservatism was supposed to conserve Christianity, then Conservatism has failed to conserve the antisemitism of Christianity. There are plenty of Muslim antisemites though.

1:26:22
George
​We need to drop those out who aren't Christian
Who is "we"? Christian antisemites? But you don't have to be Christian to be an antisemite, do you?

1:32:10
Enduro
​Real Tv3 Francis Parker Yockey an American identitarian who even supported Arab governments to stop Israel.
The only way to protect yourself from Liberal Jews and gentiles is to become Muslim, is it not?

1:34:15
Béla Nyúl
​Zionism corrupts conservatism
Why shouldn't Jews have their homeland? Why wouldn't you think Jews should have their homeland unless you were an antisemite? What do you expect Jews in Israel to do - allow themselves to be slaughtered by Hamas and Hezbollah? If you are really expecting Jews to allow themselves to be slaughtered by Hamas and Hezbollah, you must be guilty of stupidity as well as antisemitism. Of course, there is no moral imperative for gentile Western nations to protect Israel as the only liberal democracy in the Middle East. However, if Israel ceases to be a liberal democracy and is governed as a one-party theocracy governed by sharia, wouldn't Hamas and Hezbollah be happier with their Jewish neighbours?

1:35:09
Twenty faces
​if you criticise antisemitism as a member of the dissident right they'll consider you an establishment shill. you can't win lol.
Is Claire Khaw considered to be an "establishment shill"?

1:36:29
An Fómhar
​it's not necessarily about how many millions (or hundreds of thousands) it was, it's how this figure is maliciously used to demoralise and guilt whites, we can't just pretend that doesn't happen
Guilt whites into doing what?

1:44:09
Fraulein-Jessie
​Patriotic socialism
Does that mean National Socialism?

1:47:07
Vii
​@Enduro its not about deracialising politics at all, its attaining power to stop the demographic replacement to preserve HBD and order, antsemitism ect is antithetical to fixing the problem.
The matriarchy is moral sewage, restore the patriarchy with Islam to clean up the mess.

1:51:52
Enduro
​Vii also it doesn’t matter how much you try to appease them, they will accuse you of being an antisemitic Nazi either way and people will believe them -as can be seen by Trump’s movement.
The media will accuse you of being a Nazi, therefore the solution is to purge the media of those who would accuse you of being a Nazi for no good reason.

1:52:57
Real Tv3
​Enduro I live in sweden, we have a party called the swedish democrats who are like tommy robinson movement, they worship israel and israel classified them as nazis
Did Israel classify the Swedish Democrats as Nazis? When was this exactly?

1:56:31
Twenty faces
​debating the empirical data of the holocaust is a waste of time. they should probe the holocaust revisionists to find out what role this narrative has in their political philosophy.
What political philosophy of whom? Are all Holocaust revisionists antisemites? If so, how do we know this? If not, how can this impression be corrected?

1:57:25
Mr NiceGuyWinkyface
​it's quite obvious what the reason for revising it is, every nationalist who argues for hwite nationalism gets compared to nazis
White nationalism is about being mean to Jews and non-whites, isn't it?

1:58:22
An Fómhar
​this is an unwinnable argument, neither side accepts veracity of the other's points/arguments
Why not frame the debate in a different way and ask yourselves the following questions?
1) Is Christianity kaput?
2) If Christianity is kaput, can it be fixed?
3) If kaput Christianity cannot be fixed, must it be replaced?
4) If kaput Christianity must be replaced, should it be replaced by Islam?
5) If it is not agreed that kaput Christianity should be replaced by Islam, by what should kaput Christianity be replaced?
6) Should kaput Christianity be replaced by Judaism?
7) Should kaput Christianity be replaced by Hinduism?
8 ) Should kaput Christianity be replaced by Buddhism?
9) Should kaput Christianity be replaced by Communism?
10) Should kaput Christianity be replaced by Fascism?
11) Should kaput Christianity be replaced by National Socialism?
12) If the answer is "none of the above", then what?

2:06:27
Mr NiceGuyWinkyface
​you realize most people who are pro-immigration do so out of being scared to be like the nazi's right? if the lie is exposed they wouldn't have this fear
What lie are you referring to? Do Jews have to be exterminated by Nazis for you to have a right to care about uncontrolled mass immigration? If so, why?

2:08:22
An Fómhar
​@Mr NiceGuyWinkyFace true, but the risk/reward ratio is stacked so much against whites, it's a topic which is pure poison (for whites) to touch
The reason whites are always complaining about Jews and Muslims is because Jews and Muslims have a religion which whites in the West no longer have. The problem is obvious, isn't it? Christianity is kaput but whites think they can limp along with Christianity being kaput and now, Liberalism which replaced Christianity long ago is now also kaput. If your lack of a religion is causing you social and political problems, then the solution must be to get a new and better one.

2:10:45
Conan
​It's not hard lads. Make sure someone in every village and town stands on a pro Nationalist platform for a clr seat. It costs £100 to stand. Then don't come across as a dribbling larping spastic
Anyone who thinks standing on a pro-nationalist platform by becoming a councilor is a long term solution to not replacing kaput Christianity as your moral and legal political system is a dribbling larping spastic.

2:12:19
Riever
​Why is questioning it illegal in France and Germany? That is a fairly obvious evidence of at least *some* winners rewriting history and forcing popular concensus
Campaigning to repeal Holocaust Denial laws with quran.com/2/256 as moral and intellectual authority from the supreme and eternal Abrahamic God who created the Universe and is believed by Jews and Muslims to be in perfect control of it could be successful if approached correctly.

2:14:30
Mr NiceGuyWinkyface
​we can't call out who are behind the kalergi plan, we can't call out who control the media, we can't call out who funds and started BLM either, because you'll be considered a nazi
Is Claire Khaw considered a Nazi?

2:18:28
Gaelileo
​WE'D be better to learn from Joseph, to represent our peoples as well as he advocates for his.
Christianity is the most absurd Abrahamic faith of all. Judaism and Islam clearly produce better advocates for their adherents so it is time to consider calling Christianity kaput and adopting a new and better basis for our moral system.

2:20:00
Applied Virtue
​Why should we care about the Holocaust?
Because there are Holocaust Denial laws that can get you put in prison, as Alison Chabloz was, even when your country does not have Holocaust Denial laws.

2:22:49
Bad Times
​Ralph bends the knee to the Chosen Tribe
Christians worship a Jew, so what do you expect?

2:23:39
Pink Panther
​We want separation that’s all
Sounds more like a pogrom.

2:24:39
Riever
​If I'm understanding Ralph right the main thrust of his argument is that the massive focus of the "rank and file" hard right on being hardcore antisemite holocaust deniers is a massive self-pwn
Low status low information low education people only know to express their antisemitism and their wish to conduct a pogrom or make snide comments about Jews, Muslims and non-whites without ever entering the territory of acknowledging the failure of Christianity or Liberalism.

2:25:32
Seramer
​Jewel Citizen I would like to see that as well. If what they claim is true, why must they criminalize talking about it?
Was it Jews who criminalised talking about the Holocaust or gentile Western governments?

2:26:09
Conan
​Anybody ever wonder why Mark Collett's movment is utter shit and going nowhere? Well this fella arguing basically sums it up.
The most rabid antisemites would be the low status low information low education white urban proletariat.

2:27:12
Seramer
​The average English people, is a victim of three generations of intense propaganda.
What is the nature of this "intense propaganda"?

2:29:13
Pink Panther
​This is why civnats go nowhere
Has civic nationalism ever been tried?

2:29:52
Mr NiceGuyWinkyface
​nationalism = a country for hwite people
Nationalism should be defined as government in the national interest.

2:30:16
Lord England
​I think a simple way to approach this is to assure all that we're not going to genocide them, but we have questions ...
Claire Khaw whose knowledge of Judaism is virtually rabbinical would be happy to answer questions.

Mr NiceGuyWinkyface
​@Conan i'll stand for both, the people, the sportsball watching beerdrinking clueless mob, needs to understand who is actively pushing for lowering our birthrates and why
White people are too distracted by feminism to want anything to do with marriage and good parenting.

2:34:04
Gaelileo
​@Mr NiceGuyWinkyface so it's more important to convince people of who spilt the milk, rather than solve the problem and mop up the milk???
Those who call themselves nationalists are mostly antisemites suffering from being too low status low information and low education to ever understand the practical difference of distinguishing the disease of kaput Christianity and its symptoms ie Liberal Jews which is a problem of Liberalism.

2:38:26
Lord England
​I also do not want a Christian demise in my own country, the christian heritage is important to me as a non-christian.
If Christianity is kaput, then it is time to take it out with the trash and bury its stinking rotten corpse.

2:39:32
Seramer
​Unfortunately we are on an anti-white platform that deletes our comments and makes it impossible to carry a real conversation.
Claire Khaw is now disabled from posting in the chat and also from posting comments here because of the intellectual dishonesty of antisemites here who doesn't like it when she defends Jews and explains the predicament of the Post-Christian Westerner with the failure of Christianity and Liberalism.

2:39:46
Riever
​Is there a single major Christian denomination that supports White populations efforts to avoid White Genocide?
The most powerful churches in the world are powerless against liberalism which has been the unofficial religion of Western nations whose principles and quasi-priesthood are unknown.

2:39:59
Twenty faces
​what about the white liberals who created and still dominate progressive politics?
Antisemites don't seem to mind about liberal gentiles and only care about liberal Jews. One rule for gentiles, another rule for Jews.

2:41:11
Seramer
​Mr NiceGuyWinkyface The ADL decides what you may and may not say. Oy Vey!
And the Post-Christian Western gentile is helpless against the ADL. Is it because the ADL are so powerful? Or is is just because the Post-Christian Western gentile whose Christianity and Liberalism are both kaput living in their degenerate matriarchy cannot organise so much as a piss-up in a brewery?

2:45:27
Seramer
​It's almost as if the system can't handle an open dialog.
Both Christianity and Liberalism are morally and intellectually indefensible and no one wants to or can defend either now.

2:45:52
Enduro
​A lot of Neocon figures were former trotskyists is what he’s referring to.
Neoconservatism is just a euphemism for American imperialism and Jews as well as gentiles are its servants.

3:10:19
Twenty faces
​@Mr NiceGuyWinkyface if one percent of the population has this much power over your in your own lands then that says more about you than anyone else. you're mad you can't compete lol
The Post-Christian atheist Westerner can't compete against Jews and Muslims because the purpose of religion is to bring about group solidarity through its religious principles which Post-Christian atheist Westerners are either incapable of understanding or refusing to acknowledge.

3:10:52
Seramer
​Jewel Citizen "any people that has been persecuted for two thousand years must be doing something wrong" Kissinger
Kissinger is obviously not a kosher Jew.

3:15:55
BUB8LE5
​ADL can get you banned from PayPal. that's an absurd amount of power for a non elected, private company
Is it quite right to call the ADL a "private company"? 

3:17:53
Seramer
​They are inciting hatred towards white people and forcing conditions of life calculated to bring about the west's physical destruction.
Why do white people allow it? Because Christianity is kaput and they still haven't found a better moral and legal political system to replace it.

3:27:23
Seramer
​Anti-semites are the best friends of Zionists
They make Jews look better in comparison to their low education low information low status haters who have no religion and still don't think they need a new and better religion to replace kaput Christianity.

3:28:45
Unkn0wn_289
​Self hating whites are the best friends of zionists
You might end up hating yourself too if you discovered that you are an antisemite who worships a Jew whose ancestors have been tricked by a Jew into worshiping a Jew.

3:51:29
barn door
​Christ is king my man
Why do antisemites worship a deceased Jew convicted of blasphemy? Don't they know this would make them guilty of idolatry? Why don't they care that they are guilty of idolatry? Is it because people claiming to be Christian are really atheists and nihilists pretending to be idolaters and blasphemers to give them cover for their antisemitism and Islamophobia?

4:10:31
Seramer
​God scattered them though for rejecting his Son.
God scattered Jews so they could teach the Noahide laws to gentiles, and in particular explain to Christians how and why Christianity is idolatry and blasphemy, which rabbis are still refusing to do because they refuse to rank the four gentile religions according to their conformity with the Noahide laws. If rabbis would just do this, Christians would finally realise after 2000 years that Christianity is the idolatry and blasphemy forbidden by God in His Commandments.

4:33:44
Seramer
​There's no such thing as civic natinalism… 
Is it being said that civic nationalism has never been practised? That would be correct.

4:34:04
Mr NiceGuyWinkyface
​literally 93% ofblks in america vote for leftwing causes 87% are pro-BLM
Time to have a one-party state then.

5:08:39
toobalkain
​in short, Judaism is tribal
Jews are a tribe.

5:23:41
Riever
​There seems to be this assumption that Europeans historically owe something to a foreign semitic tribe which generally seem to be antagonistic to their European hosts
Without Judaism, there would be no Jews. Without Jews, there would be no Jesus for Christians to worship. Without Jesus for Jews to worship, there would be no Christianity. Without Christianity, there would not have been three global Christian empires.

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