11:41 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
Justice is just what seems fair enough to most reasonable people.
11:43 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
The Four Horseman of the Apocalypse ...
11:43 AM
@teestrypzSOG
Just stopping by to say…shut up Rob and Claire, get a life.
11:44 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@teestrypzSOG Thank you for coming by with your customary greeting.
11:44 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
ANTINOMIANISM would be a great topic for Chris and Tunji!
11:46 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
I wouldn't it past the powers that be to kill Arday just for the sake of operating their policy of divide and rule.
11:47 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
The Economist is the inhouse magazine for neoliberals.
11:47 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
To be neoliberal is to sell off national utilities and state assets to global conglomerates which BlackRock promotes.
11:48 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
BlackRock is the American equivalent of the British East India Company.
11:49 AM
@Eolson-helper
That is one crazy chariot!
11:50 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
I was talking about the British East India Company because I mentioned BlackRock. I mentioned BlackRock because you mentioned the Economist promoting neoliberalism which you are suspicious of.
11:57 AM
@Eolson-helper
#3
Up into the late 80’s they still made cars out of wood in Soviet countries.
11:57 AM
@Eolson-helper
#3
I had friends whose first cars were made of wood.
11:57 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Making cars basically mechanical again would make it cheaper for motorists.
11:58 AM
@Eolson-helper
#3
Claire- we agree! :)
11:59 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@Eolson-helper I've mentioned a few times in my streams that I can easily show that I care more about US beta males than PVK.
12:00 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
China's public transport system is light years ahead of the US.
12:01 PM
@Eolson-helper
#3
OSK- thank you! Your benevolence shows no bounds ;)
12:02 PM
@OOOTLAM
Obviously I care about the people who will be showcasing SK USA.
12:03 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
Taoist and Buddhist metaphysics is light years ahead of Western theology too ☯
12:03 PM
@Eolson-helper
#3
Rob- I thought they were Walrus or Hippo or some kind of ivory? Maybe thats another founding father myth I need to be deconstructed of. :)
12:04 PM
@OOOTLAM
Christian theology is a tangled web woven by those who practise to deceive.
12:04 PM
@Eolson-helper
#3
Rob- how does you Taoist and Buddhist interest interact with your Anglican belief?
12:04 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
you mean chopping the cherry 🍒 tree was just symbolic for the Barbary Wars? lol
12:05 PM
@OOOTLAM
Anglicanism is derived from Catholicism anyway.
12:06 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Deconstructing = debunking
12:06 PM
@Eolson-helper
Rob- I didn’t know they grew Cherries on the Barbary coast. I thought they majored in piracy and slavery :) silly me.
12:06 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
the notion of "belief" leads to propositional tyranny 🤪
12:07 PM
@Eolson-helper
Rob - does your Anglicanism tyrannize you?
12:08 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Trinitarians are tyrannised by their requirement to believe Jesus is God to remain Christian.
12:08 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
I don't have problems critically analyzing my own culture unlike most "believers", as I value being honest
12:09 PM
@Eolson-helper
OSK - I could just become agnostic like you :) what a great foundation to build a belief structure from :)
12:12 PM
@Eolson-helper
Rob- I am interested (no sarcasm) in your integration of Taoism and Buddhism with Anglican participation.
12:12 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
Olson, BB King's has a famous quote: "Nobody loves me but my mother, and she could be jivin', too."
12:14 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@Eolson-helper I have more confidence in my belief system than you in yours, and you know it.
12:15 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
I have a great admiration of Far Eastern cultures and history but love learning about other cultures in general...
12:17 PM
@Eolson-helper
OSK - news to me :) thank you for revealing to me my deepest thoughts :) now I must wrestle with my newly founded ontological uncertainty ;)
12:19 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@Eolson-helper I know there is a reason why you cannot bear to talk to me for any length of time.
12:20 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Western civilisation *is* built on Christianity.
12:21 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Tom Holland is however wrong to conflate Christianity with Liberalism.
12:21 PM
@Eolson-helper
OSK- oh! That explains the hours upon hours of conversations we have had. I’m sorry I have not dedicated more of my time and life to you. :)
12:22 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
if you follow Tom Hollands logic, you would trace the European Renaissance back to Moorish Al-Andalus on your silk road journey
12:23 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@Eolson-helper You dramatically and hysterically accused me of not caring about the beta males of the US on Brett's channel. Very revealing. Now you won't let me answer your accusations.
12:23 PM
@Eolson-helper
Moorish get their intellectual foundations?
12:24 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
SK is for beta males.
12:24 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Tom Holland is a court historian.
12:25 PM
@Eolson-helper
OSK- the comment floor is yours. Show me you care by non-ai helped summarizing my thoughts and position on say… the Trinity.
12:25 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
The powers that be want Westerners to continue with their fake religion of Christianity to keep them dumbed down and easy to manipulate with stick and carrot because they are functionally atheist.
12:25 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Tom Holland is an Islamophobe.
12:26 PM
@Eolson-helper
OSK - I give you a chance and you respond with Tom Holland is an islamophobe. Nice :)
12:27 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@Eolson-helper Why won't you "rando" me?
12:27 PM
@Eolson-helper
You have already been Rando’d. Multiple times.
12:27 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Feel free to accuse me of anything, Chris.
12:28 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
I thought you are all sick and tired of hearing what I think!
12:28 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@Eolson-helper Not by you.
12:28 PM
@Eolson-helper
OSK- I dedicated a whole morning show to you and letting you explain your ideas.
12:29 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@Eolson-helper You have not allowed me to answer your hysterical accusations since then!
12:31 PM
@Eolson-helper
Rob - what are your views of of the ancient archaeology sight found in Turkey (I’m blanking on the name sorry)
12:32 PM
@Eolson-helper
OSK - adding hysterical to my arguments using facts and logic do not change the correctness of them. Feel free to reply here.
12:32 PM
@Eolson-helper
Rob- yes!
12:33 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@Eolson-helper You hysterically accused me of hypocrisy and not caring about the beta males of the US when SK USA was created for beta males of the world.
12:34 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@Eolson-helper I have at no time pretended to be better than I am by pretending to believe in something.
12:34 PM
@Eolson-helper
OSK - beta males of the world unite! Again , thank you for designing such a wonderful system for us beta makes to live and survive and…submit?
12:35 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@Eolson-helper You cannot prove that Christian Nationalism would better protect the interests of beta males in the US.
12:35 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@Eolson-helper We all have to submit to the law of the land.
12:35 PM
@Eolson-helper
OSK - postmodernism does not suite you. Don’t make up definitions, or else the beta males loke me might not follow you :)
12:36 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@Eolson-helper Define postmodernism.
12:36 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
How would you define postmodernism, @VanWeasley-e8s?
12:36 PM
@Eolson-helper
OSK - it’s true. I can’t prove Christian nationalism would do that. But you just proved my point you don’t listen to me because I am not a Christian nationalist :)
12:37 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@Eolson-helper What kind of a Christian are you?
12:37 PM
@Eolson-helper
OSK- making up your own definitions is a postmodern move.
12:37 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@Eolson-helper What definitions have I made up?
12:38 PM
@Eolson-helper
OSK- according to you a hypocritical trinitarian believing beta male Christian.
12:38 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
How has Holland contradicted himself, Tunji?
12:38 PM
@SeekingGenuine
What if your mind changes?
12:39 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@SeekingGenuine Then you have to say you have changed your mind and explain why.
12:40 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@Eolson-helper Your most recent comment does not make sense.
12:40 PM
@Eolson-helper
Have a great morning! I have to get going.
12:40 PM
@SeekingGenuine
I agree Claire, but does that mean everything you’ve said before changing your mind is no longer true?
12:41 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@Eolson-helper Goodbye, even if you have not clarified your comment.
12:41 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@SeekingGenuine It depends on what the contradictions are.
12:45 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
Just change their minds and leave their hearts alone, Brett.
12:45 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
Theology is the premise of your philosophical debate. If the Trinity is idolatry, then it would be wise to renounce it.
12:52 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
soul means psyche wind
12:53 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
Children's Bible study is for children
12:53 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
It doesn't matter whether the Messiah comes in our lifetimes. Our priority must be to avoid hell by refraining from mortal sins and repenting of them in guilty.
12:53 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@chrishoward8473 Are you familiar with the term antinomianism?
12:54 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@VanWeasley-e8s Celsus the Roman philosopher absolutely hated Christianity.
12:54 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
five solas led you off a cliff of reason
12:54 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@chrishoward8473 Did you once say you were an antinomian Calvinist?
12:55 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Why did God bother make laws for us if He did not mean for us to obey them?
12:56 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
The five solas are Latin phrases developed to summarize the core theological beliefs of the Protestant Reformation. the word "only" is reductionistic whereas reality is complex
12:57 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
Faith hope charity lead you back to Athens and Greek goddesses
12:58 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Why don't Christian men use their powers of deduction?
12:59 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Christianity failed to prevent the decline and fall of Rome, failed to defend the divine right of kings and failed to protect marriage as an institution.
12:59 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Who's good with what?
1:00 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Is Brett saying Christian Americans are going to become extinct Shakers?
1:01 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
imago dei - ethnosemiotics = Anthropomorphic "G-d" made in the image of Serapis
1:02 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
There must be a minimum standard of morality.
1:03 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Without the eugenic practice of marriage, your society will suffer from degeneracy ie becoming weaker, stupider and more corrupt.
1:03 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
The problem is the Trinity, impossible to explain and believe.
1:03 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
the church (patriarchs) vs state (monarchs) traces back to the Pentarchy evolving from the Tetrarchy- ie Roman form of governance.
1:04 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
What is Tunji's question?
1:05 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
PVK is a panderer!
1:05 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Who has been too zealous?
1:05 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
WHO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
1:06 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
No terms are defined, no examples given.
1:06 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
PVK is full of heresy. Am I the only person who has noticed?
1:07 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
PVK only cares about collecting mediocrities and increasing the number of his viewers and subscribers. He does not care about TLM.
1:07 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
The Germanics defeated Rome and Charlemagne usurped the legacy with the First Reich of the Holy Roman Empire, which adopted the Imperial Diet system from the Moorish Andalusian Imperial Divan model
1:08 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#2
But then where does our responsibility lay
1:09 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@SeekingGenuine We can only speak the truth as we see it. PVK only panders to the prejudices of his subscribers for the purpose of his YouTube channel.
1:09 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
the concept of the Caliphate comes from Solomon's Temple constructs from the Greek Septuagint
1:09 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@SeekingGenuine If you believe in God, then satisfy yourself that you are following His laws correctly.
1:10 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
context: Charlemagne's grandfather stopped the Moors from taking Franc realms
1:10 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Christians fall at the first hurdle of the First and Second Commandments which is echoed in the First and Second Noahide laws.
1:10 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
Charles "the hammer" martel
1:10 PM
@βρεττς
Claire I’ll try one last time. It has nothing to do with what we DO it’s about what has been DONE
1:11 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
If we do not exercise our judgement, how can we become wise and acquire the beginning of wisdom that is fear of the Lord?
1:11 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
No idea what you mean, Brett.
1:11 PM
@βρεττς
The Greek word FEAR is actually AWE
1:11 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
Hiram king of Tyre was Phoenician, those with the knowledge and technology to erect the Temple
1:12 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Christians literally do not care that they could be guilty of the mortal sin of idolatry.
1:12 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@VanWeasley-e8s Why are you talking about the Temple?
1:13 PM
@βρεττς
#3
Substitution Atonement Claire that’s
1:13 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
There are two editions of divine revelation: the Torah and the Koran.
1:13 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Why are you all making it so complicated?
1:14 PM
@βρεττς
#2
So says Claire the non believer
1:14 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
because your concept of Jerusalem surrounds the Temple, and Islam's Caliphate is based on this same concept and also claimed the legacy of Rome
1:14 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
The New Testament is NOT divine revelation.
1:15 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
I don't have to believe in God to recognise idolatry when I see it. Even a child can recognise idolatry.
1:15 PM
@βρεττς
#2
How do you know the New Testament isn’t but know the Quran is?!
1:15 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
Surah Ar-Rum [Rome/Byzantine Empire], chapter 30 of the Quran
1:15 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
I guess Christians will always keep pretending they don't understand idolatry.
1:15 PM
@βρεττς
#2
Idolizing is religious not secular
1:16 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Brett, not even Christians claim that the authors of the New Testament were divine. Matthew etc were not divine, were they?
1:16 PM
@βρεττς
#2
Wrong
1:17 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
What am I wrong about, Brett?
1:17 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
chivalry comes from Islam
1:18 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Are you saying Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and the other authors of the New Testament should be added to the Trinity?
1:19 PM
@βρεττς
#2
If I had a lot of money I’d pay for you a free subscription to an accurate AI. I’d buy you Logos Software so you can learn Christians actually believe
1:20 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
BRAVE: The NT contains 27 books attributed to 8 to 16 different authors, depending on whether anonymous works and disputed epistles are counted as distinct or shared by the same individual.
1:20 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Christians cannot agree with each other what to believe and cannot explain their beliefs even to themselves, let alone other Christians.
1:21 PM
@βρεττς
#2
Learn more I guess
1:21 PM
@teestrypzSOG
Still going
1:21 PM
@βρεττς
#2
You want me on to debate Claire I might have time today
1:21 PM
@teestrypzSOG
Don’t do it Brett
1:22 PM
@βρεττς
#2
I have a forgetful memory
1:22 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Brett, no Christian can explain the Trinity correctly and honestly without leaving Christianity. That was why heretic burning was a Christian practice.
1:23 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
The last heretic was executed in the UK in 1697. Before 80 years was up, the American Revolution broke out. Res ipsa loquitur.
1:24 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
I am sorry, Americans, but if you want to blame anyone for the end of Christendom in 1918, you have to blame the Founding Fathers.
1:25 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
It is a good thing that Christendom ended, because as citizens of a constitutional republic, you must be proud of yourselves for having ended Christendom in Europe.
1:26 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Now you have to acknowledge that the Founding Fathers were not normative Christians, but were in fact heretical Christians.
1:27 PM
@teestrypzSOG
God is good
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