11:39 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Hey T, i hear you saw Claire recently
11:39 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
It was nice to see Claire again
11:40 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Does trust exist if it doesn’t have a place to land on? Like if I trust someone but they don’t believe in my trust…does it stull exist/matter
11:41 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
Yes it does.
11:43 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Tayo, does the trust not just disintegrate or die once it doesn’t land? It seems it would not withstand long term…Not sure if this is too abstract
11:43 AM
@OOOTLAM
@teestrypzSOG Yes, it was good to see you. Shame you couldn't join us at the mock Tudor pub Red Lion afterwards.
11:44 AM
@anselman3156
what did i miss-an eggregore?
11:45 AM
@OOOTLAM
@SeekingGenuine Trust relies on whether someone conforms to expectations. You can "trust" a criminal to behave like a criminal!
11:46 AM
@OOOTLAM
@SeekingGenuine You can "trust" Chad to block me on his channel the moment he realises it is me. You can "trust" Chad to make jokes about Muslims being terrorists blowing themselves up at TLC events.
11:48 AM
@OOOTLAM
@chrishoward8473 We are different persons in different media eg streaming as a host, joining as a guest, trolling in the chat!
11:48 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
Bee, I think of faith and trust as synonymous
11:52 AM
@OOOTLAM
@SeekingGenuine Faith is believing things will turn out for the best eg that good will be rewarded and evil punished in this life and the next.
11:53 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Claire, do you definitely see a difference in trust and faith?
11:55 AM
@OOOTLAM
@SeekingGenuine "Trust you to leave the lights on again!" It depends on the context.
11:56 AM
@OOOTLAM
@Eolson-helper We can be driver and pedestrian at different times and behave differently.
11:56 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
I like that answer, Claire 👌 my phrase is always adult diapers- “depends”
12:02 PM
@OOOTLAM
@RogerDodgerEsq Chad is the most emotionally compelling YouTuber in TLC because of the way he acts out n the way a lot of them want to but are too well-parented to do so.
12:03 PM
@βρεττς
I’m very disappointed in Glenn he gave out some false information probably not knowingly. But he should’ve done a little research.
12:03 PM
@OOOTLAM
If I got myself a guitar and cried and cried about how I hate everything and don't know anything, I would get more viewers.
12:03 PM
@anselman3156
Shaw the mythology man who thinks fairy tales are the way to revive Christianity
12:04 PM
@βρεττς
Claire, do you have the ability to not be mean.?
12:05 PM
@OOOTLAM
@βρεττς Who is this false information Glenn?
12:06 PM
@anselman3156
there's too much talk of fantasy and fairy tales, giving them some religious significance
12:06 PM
@OOOTLAM
@βρεττς Truth issues forth from me like water from a fountain.
12:06 PM
@the.marylander
Claire, according to Megan the only perpetual victim is me, so you can come for me. But I didn't think you will, mate.
12:07 PM
@anselman3156
story tellers spin yarns to misdirect you, and it's worse when given a pseudo religious aspect
12:07 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
thank you SG. waiting for my plaque from youtube
12:08 PM
@OOOTLAM
@the.marylander I don't understand what you're saying, I'm afraid. So do you know Megan?
12:08 PM
@βρεττς
I often wondered about those YouTube plaques. I don’t know that I would put one up unless they were paying me big money so my viewers don’t have to pay me big money.
12:08 PM
@βρεττς
But I assume that you don’t get the plaque unless you’re making them big money lol
12:08 PM
@the.marylander
Claire, I don't think so mate
12:09 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
Brett I post for the plaques
12:10 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
Chris Howard: "expansive" hermeneutic. I like that
12:10 PM
@βρεττς
Paul Harvey was awesome and funny
12:11 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Unsure, Claire. Did I offend my DMV brother?
12:12 PM
@βρεττς
I’m considerate, but I don’t obsess over whether or not somebody is gonna get offended. I do my best, but I’m not perfect. I think that’s all anyone can do. And I don’t expect reciprocation.
12:12 PM
@anselman3156
Never blur the distinction between the God-breathed Scripture and our attempts to interpret it and apply it
12:12 PM
@OOOTLAM
@SeekingGenuine I said he would be welcome to come and chat on my channel and he started talking about Wendy's and mentioned you. I guess that was his way of saying NO after saying he was a victim.
12:12 PM
@βρεττς
The Bible has its own hermeneutic. No need to bring your own to it.
12:13 PM
@OOOTLAM
I think a lot of the problem is people not expressing themselves clearly.
12:13 PM
@anselman3156
everyone knows not to eat a cox's pippin apple cos Adam did that!
12:14 PM
@the.marylander
Claire, I don't think it is mate
12:14 PM
@βρεττς
It was fruit Anselman we do not know it was an apple. Lol there you go again.
12:14 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
@the.marylander, how far from DC are you?
12:14 PM
@OOOTLAM
Why do people not express themselves clearly? Is it a question of not being taught grammar or just a deliberate policy of indirect speech? If the latter, the reason must be fear.
12:15 PM
@OOOTLAM
@the.marylander You don't think what is what?
12:15 PM
@anselman3156
and a bit stuck in his throat!
12:15 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Or rather, how far from Burke VA are you
12:16 PM
@OOOTLAM
There is a marked difference between Christian and Jewish YouTube.
12:16 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
I’ll be in NoVa in August and was curious if you’d want a IRL TLC meetup
12:16 PM
@anselman3156
I shoulda thought that was a compliment. Love apples
12:16 PM
@Jzepp
It is interesting to know that about 1/3 of the Old Testament is written in verse.
12:16 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
the 10 commandments aren't a story but they are found in one
12:16 PM
@βρεττς
Some people are more into these stories drawing parallels like Jonathan and Shaw
12:17 PM
@βρεττς
But it’s better to not miss the real point. It does get confusing and might add misinterpretation.
12:17 PM
@anselman3156
that's verse than I thought!
12:17 PM
@OOOTLAM
@anselman3156 Who is this mythology man?
12:18 PM
@the.marylander
I'm down, but I fear you actually just seek my gold panning spots
12:18 PM
@anselman3156
Martin Shaw OOOTLAM
12:18 PM
@the.marylander
does the O in OOOTLAM stand for osteoporosis
12:19 PM
@OOOTLAM
@Jzepp Which parts are in verse?
12:19 PM
@βρεττς
Psalms
12:19 PM
@βρεττς
Proverbs
12:21 PM
@anselman3156
The Scottish Metrical Psalms slightly paraphrase them and make them easy to memorise to sing by rhyme
12:21 PM
@Jzepp
@OOOTLAM Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiasties, Song of Solomon, and maybe more I can’t remember.
12:22 PM
@OOOTLAM
@Jzepp The entirety of the Koran is in verse.
12:22 PM
@Jzepp
#3
@OOOTLAM Sometimes I wonder if there is some meaning we may miss because of the verse structure that is lost in translation.
12:22 PM
@anselman3156
I to the hills will lift mine eyes from whence doth come mine aid My safety cometh from the LORD who heaven and earth hath made
12:24 PM
@OOOTLAM
@Jzepp It is really simple. You can only know God by understanding the nature and purpose of His laws. Your rulers have been trying to distract you from this for centuries..
12:24 PM
@βρεττς
It’s so no one has an excuse
12:25 PM
@anselman3156
papa Leo blessed ICE so that's ok ;)
12:27 PM
@OOOTLAM
The first law believers of the Abrahamic God need to understand is the First Commandment.
12:28 PM
@βρεττς
You can’t hold to a commandment Claire unless you actually believe there is a God
12:29 PM
@anselman3156
It's about using your spiritual gifts
12:29 PM
@Jzepp
#3
I think Gods laws are for our benefit. That may seem like an obvious statement, but if we make Gods laws for His benefit, things are very different.
12:30 PM
@anselman3156
The Cristian is given spiritual gifts to use
12:30 PM
@OOOTLAM
I am waiting backstage to explain the meaning of the verse about Jesus fulfilling the law.
12:31 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Family reunion!
12:33 PM
@OOOTLAM
Brett, even a criminal can tell if a law is being broken.
12:33 PM
@βρεττς
There is where you miss read the Bible. Right there
12:34 PM
@Jzepp
#3
Does a law-breaker benefit from punishment?
12:34 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
ask Claire about Caleb Maupin
12:34 PM
@βρεττς
Yes, great let’s talk more about the law and politic
12:35 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Sarcasm gone wild out here haha
12:35 PM
@βρεττς
You don’t care what Jesus has to say anyway
12:35 PM
@anselman3156
Jesus fulfilled the sacrificial system by his sacrifice
12:36 PM
@anselman3156
he replaced circumcision with baptism
12:36 PM
@anselman3156
he replaced passover meal with holy communion
12:36 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
Claire, I believe you would appreciate the work of Haz of Infrared, a conservative Muslim Leninist
12:37 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
I have a theory about what those words might mean, Brett!
12:37 PM
@anselman3156
he suffered the death penalty for sin on our behalf to reconcile us to God by his blood
12:37 PM
@the.marylander
12 missed calls from the prophet Mohammad
12:37 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
We first need to identify the law!
12:38 PM
@βρεττς
#2
We first need to recognize there’s actually a God and then people would care
12:38 PM
@anselman3156
Law covers the eternal moral law and the temporary ritual laws
12:39 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
modernity explained "you're muted"
12:40 PM
@βρεττς
#2
But who cares about the law if they don’t believe where it comes from?
12:40 PM
@βρεττς
#2
I don’t see the Seventh-day Adventist being Christian
12:42 PM
@YoavBressler
"tricking them to break the Sabbath"
12:43 PM
@RogerDodgerEsq
You can hold your views and say what you think, just dont be surprised when people acknowledge what they observe.
12:43 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
Who’s that boomer comedian that everyone loves? He has a bit about the 10 commandments, not a fan
12:43 PM
@anselman3156
The Christian first day Lord's Day is the true sabbath since Jesus' resurrection
12:43 PM
@βρεττς
#2
Claire, the utilitarian
12:45 PM
@the.marylander
Tucker Carlson is a very funny comedian
12:45 PM
@anselman3156
Claire probably does not take time to listen to Christian explanations of the texts she finds problematic
12:45 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
George’s the second funniest Carlson
12:45 PM
@the.marylander
Claire prob thinks Lucky Charms are part of a balanced breakfast
12:46 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Are they not?! 👀
12:46 PM
@the.marylander
George Carlin?
12:46 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
We got there in the end
12:46 PM
@anselman3156
Claire has still not responded to my advice to read Isaiah 9 and 10 about God becoming a man
12:46 PM
@RogerDodgerEsq
That's fine, I can't force your remorse, only recommend further introspection.
12:47 PM
@anselman3156
Jesus Christ is not just a prophet, not just a man, but the mighty God, the Holy One of Israel become a man
12:48 PM
@anselman3156
The koran denies the fact of Jesus' death on the cross
12:48 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
I love when Tunji forces Claire to stick to the topic 😂😂
12:48 PM
@the.marylander
in soviet Russia, the cross dies on Jesus
12:48 PM
@RogerDodgerEsq
If you love and respect Muslims, I would think you might not want to slander their religious belief system with bigoted tropes which could offend them
12:49 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
I look forward to her stream after this, cussing out Tunji
12:49 PM
@βρεττς
You dragged things out Claire and say the same thing.
12:49 PM
@CharlieWaffles-e4m
Claire loves dead horses
12:49 PM
@the.marylander
@rodgerdodgeresq it's hard to take people seriously when their name rhymes. all lawyers know that
12:50 PM
@βρεττς
You don’t listen Claire at all
12:50 PM
@anselman3156
There are some differences of opinion within all religious groups. The main Christian consensus uphold the 10 commandments and First day sabbath
12:50 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Good excuse Chris haha
12:50 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
Thanks gents, it’s been fun
12:51 PM
@RogerDodgerEsq
Damn it, why didn't I think of that "marylary" lol
12:51 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
I’m with ya, Chad. Give me the relevance
12:51 PM
@AdoAboutNoThing
Agreed Chad and Megan
12:51 PM
@βρεττς
Some people get off on this emotional elevation
12:51 PM
@anselman3156
Peace to all Trust in Jesus, Lord God and Saviour
12:52 PM
@anselman3156
Jesus Christ is Lord
12:53 PM
@OOOTLAM
@anselman3156 Prove it!
12:53 PM
@OOOTLAM
I didn't even mention Secular Koranism!
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53:00 Spirit of the law
Mark Parker refused to say what he wanted Trump to do while objecting to what he was doing with ICE.
56:00 Fulfilling and abolishing the law
1:03:00 CLAIRE KHAW joins to ask what it means to say Jesus came to fulfil the law rather than abolishing it.
1:07:00 The Sabbath
1:08:00 What is controversial?
1:09:00 We have to identify the law we are supposed to obey.
1:10:00 The Sabbath is controversial even amongst people identifying as Christian eg Seventh Day Adventists and Jehovah's Witnesses
1:11:00 Christians agree about the Ten Commandments.
1:12:00 Jesus calling a Canaanite woman a dog.
In the Gospels (Matthew 15:21-28 and Mark 7:24-30), Jesus tells a Gentile (Canaanite/Syrophoenician) woman that "it is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs." He uses this metaphor to establish the priority of his ministry to the Jewish people first.
1:14:00 The Noahide laws
The Koran
1:15:00 The New Testament supersedes the Old Testament.
1:16:00 The Book of Jeremiah predicts a New Covenant.
1:17:00 God's law is for everyone.
1:18:00 I never even mentioned Secular Koranism!
1:20:00 Chris says it is hard to receive new information.
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