Tuesday 8 August 2023

The whys and wherefores of Secular Koranism

 

15:00  AQAAD joins.

16:00  I introduce myself.

19:00  Aqaad "totally agrees" with me.  

20:00  But he doesn't agree with me about the one-party state. 

quran.com/6/159

https://teachingamericanhistory.org/blog/george-washington-on-political-parties/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_China

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shura

26:00  Putin

27:00  Australia

28:00  Dominions

29:00  NATO

30:00  America and China

Britain treats its own people worse than it treated the people of China when they were selling the Chinese opium.

32:00  Representative democracy

Hizb ut Tahrir and Imran Khan

33:00  GAZELLE and JUSTIN MURPHY join. 

35:00  Religion doesn't exist?

39:00  Andrew Tate and other cults of personality

40:00  My definition of religion

41:00  The size and longevity of religious groups - the most powerful human groups

42:00  Constantine the Great and the schism between Arians and Athanasians at the Council of Nicaea

43:00  Secular Koranism

44:00  Gazelle explains her agnosticism.

49:00  The difference between religion and politics is a distinction without a difference.

50:00  The purpose of religion 

51:00  The Founding Fathers of the American Republic

Congress is currently unaccountable.

52:00  INDEPENDENT MUSLIM joins and agrees!

55:00  Social formation and social binding

57:00  Getting to Mars is the benefit of social binding.

59:00  Fractals

1:03:00  Jews

1:05:00  People are afraid to die. 

1:07:00  ROBERT DUIGAN joins. 

Secular political ideologies

1:09:00  Revelation is scripture.

1:11:00  The story of Abraham

1:13:00  Human sacrifice abolished in the Old Testament but reintroduced in the New Testament?

1:14:00  The New Testament is lower in status than the Torah and Koran.

1:15:00  The teleological approach to religion

1:16:00  Religion is about law and war.

1:17:00  Accepting authority is doing things we don't understand or agree with.

1:18:00  Submission

1:19:00  It was a conspiracy between Abraham and Isaac.

1:22:00  Rob's beliefs

1:23:00  Rob only knows Jesus.

1:26:00  Jews and the Torah

King of the Jews

1:27:00  Solomon and kingship

1:28:00  Messiah

1:29:00  Saviour

1:30:00  Scripture

1:31:00  Not holding our legislature to account with an official religion

Christo-Liberalism

1:32:00  Why the Founding Fathers rejected Christianity and monarchy

1:33:00  The Koran is the best available guide to humanity.

1:34:00  Muslims don't follow their own rules. 

1:35:00  Christianity v Islam

1:37:00  Mormonism

The no idolatry rule excludes the non-Abrahamic faiths including Christianity, making it clear which religion the West ought to choose to correct itself. 

1:38:00  The no idolatry rule is not to protect God against being offended but to protect us against the consequences of idolatry.

1:39:00  Islamic Golden Age

1:40:00  The Moors

1:41:00  Iran

https://areomagazine.com/2020/05/26/the-unbeliever-knows-his-quran-best/

1:43:00  Secular Koranism

1:44:00  Why did God allow Christianity if He disapproved of idolatry?

God is the best of planners. 

https://quran.com/8/30?translations=20,84,85,18,95,101,41,19,22,27

1:47:00  The Koran is the best available guide to humanity.

1:48:00  Following the recipe.

1:49:00  The law is state violence.

1:50:00  Jews are evidence of God.

1:51:00  Jews are protected by God, according to the Book of Jeremiah. 

1:52:00  WENCESLAS joins.

1:54:00  Why don't we just go back to Christianity?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Wightman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Aikenhead

1:55:00  The New Testament

Mormons and Southern Baptists

1:56:00  We cannot keep promises to ourselves.

1:57:00  quran.com/2/256

1:58:00  Free speech protects the ruling classes.

1:59:00  Iran and the Martin Luther 

2:00:00  "We must with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion."

2:01:00  The point of freemasonry

2:04:00  Legal system

2:06:00  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_American_bastardy_laws

2:08:00  We have made an idol of democracy.

2:09:00  We can't and shouldn't go back to heretic burning. 

2:10:00  Free speech protects the ruling classes too.

2:11:00  The First Amendment is supported by quran.com/2/256

2:12:00  The American Revolution

2:13:00  Jews wanted a king but were not well-served by their kings.

2:14:00  China has rid itself of imperial dynasties ie monarchy and is now a republic.

2:15:00  Marxist Leninism
2:17:00  Capitalism was a controlled experiment.
2:18:00  Legalism was behaviourism.
2:20:00  Paying the government to escape punishment

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