Monday, 6 July 2026

Only the status quo rivals Secular Koranism

What rivals Secular Koranism?
1:00  Remigration
2:00  Neologisms
Re-enchantment
Degeneracy

3:00  Carry on voting is not a viable long term strategy.

4:00  It is impossible to defend principles you do not have.

5:00  Christians have been post-truth since the 4th century. 

6:00  Building your Trinity on sand

Verifiable truths

7:00  Agnostics can support the rule of law.

8:00  Idolaters are incapable of logic thought. 

Christians are really atheists. 

9:00  PVK the alpha male leader of TLC prefers to promote mediocrities as long as they are Christian. 

10:00  "Opponent processing"
Badges of identity
11:00 Religion of Mum and Dad

Neurotic Christians lied to since the 4th century

12:00  If I were white and male married American father
Definition of heretic

14:00  Corruption is ignoring the truth of the evil of US foreign policy.

15:00  Tom Holland's fake narrative that Christianity and Liberalism are the same

16:00  Charles I
Spain no longer has an official state religion though its king is Catholic. 

17:00  Political systems that are anachronisms should be taken out with the trash. 

18:00  TLC identity
20:00  The Meaning Crisis

21:00  American husbands fearing their wife do not want to be accused of their Triple Heresy against Christianity, Liberalism and Feminism

22:00  US citizens cannot discuss US foreign policy in the Middle East without being accused of antisemitism
23:00  Psychoanalysis by a political scientist
24:00  I am a historical detective.
26:00  Christianity caused the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.
27:00  Absolute monarchy is absolutely corrupt.
28:00  Trinitarians have the most powerful church.
29:00  White Nationalists  have converted to Orthodox Christianity.
30:00  Will TLC get me on PVK/
31:00  Getting SK USA adopted by the USA

Authenticity v Sincerity


@βρεττς
​​The other thing I couldn’t believe was that I thought I had no fear. And then I realized wait. Anger is a secondary emotion. There was something there that was precipitating it.

11:39 AM
@Jzepp
​​Yeah Brett. I try to pay attention to what angers me.

11:44 AM
@AmIDriving
​​I generally think acting is simply people being really great liars

11:44 AM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​That’s intriguing, Scott

11:45 AM
@βρεττς
​​Yeah, I use that as a defense mechanism to basically do whatever I wanna do

11:45 AM
@anselman3156
​​When Jean de Florette told the peasant he was cultivating the authentic, the peasant wondered what new kind of crop that was

11:45 AM
@teestrypzSOG
​#2
​I sincerely despise my neighbour. Not that virtuous

11:45 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
​#3
​Chris’ authenticity is what I love most about him!❤😂

11:46 AM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​You can honestly be untruthful

11:46 AM
@βρεττς
​​We can use all these terms in bad ways

11:47 AM
@anselman3156
​​Marcel Pagnol book Jean de Florette

11:47 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#3
​I think of authenticity is good vs its opposite, being “fake”

11:48 AM
@OOOTLAM
​​Can someone give an example of how sincerity is better than authenticity?

11:48 AM
@βρεττς
​​There were times I was authentically an asshole

11:48 AM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​I think honesty and authenticity can be distracting and misleading if you have cultivated a bad stance/form/disposition

11:49 AM
@OOOTLAM
​​Who started the discussion about authenticity and sincerity?

11:50 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
​#3
​Ah good points. Better to fake it till you make it at being loving than authentically being an a-hole….

11:50 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
​Some Marxist German professor living in China

11:52 AM
@OOOTLAM
​​We are more likely to be perceived as sincere if we are perceived as authentic.

11:52 AM
@βρεττς
​​Rob, you can think you know people and their sincerity but you would be wrong

11:53 AM
@OOOTLAM
​​TLC people value Christianity over TLM.

11:54 AM
@βρεττς
​​No, you can have them. I just recognize I might be wrong.

11:56 AM
@OOOTLAM
​​Can one be a sincere and authentic hypocrite?

11:57 AM
@βρεττς
​​Yep

11:57 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
​Easily

11:57 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Yes Claire

11:57 AM
@OOOTLAM
​​Are we authentically masculine if we cannot take the truth on the chin?

11:57 AM
@βρεττς
​​Cue: Tunji

11:58 AM
@OOOTLAM
​​Are we authentically male if we support feminism?

11:58 AM
@anselman3156
​​if you're a hypocrite, that's authentic you Claire Take responsibility for what you make yourself

11:58 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​I’m not sure you can ask the question in that way, Claire. It makes a lot of assumptions…I think

11:59 AM
@βρεττς
​​I like that

11:59 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
​90% of Claire’s contains 100% presuppositions

11:59 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
​Claire’s wyestions*

12:00 PM
@anselman3156
​​Is an agnostic who adopts Talmudic or koranic laws a hypocrite for not really believing in the deities of those systems?

12:00 PM
@anselman3156
​​Is Secular Koranism hypocrisy? Authentic Claire?

12:01 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@SeekingGenuine "Are we authentically decent and reasonable people if cannot face the truth without ignoring and denying it?" How about that?

12:02 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@anselman3156 Only people can be hypocrites.

12:02 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@anselman3156 I just want the rule of law, don't you?

12:02 PM
@βρεττς
​​What is TRUTH? Pilate

12:03 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​If we are facing the truth knowingly and denying it I don’t think we are being decent

12:03 PM
@anselman3156
​​There are bad laws and good laws

12:03 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​The truth that Christianity has failed the very people it was designed to protect, Brett.

12:04 PM
@βρεττς
​​I don’t see that as truth

12:04 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​Corruption is denying truth.

12:04 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​The Founding Fathers accepted Gibbon's thesis that Christianity caused Rome to decline and fall.

12:05 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Intentionally and unintentionally, Claire?

12:05 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@SeekingGenuine Who intentionally/unintentionally did what?

12:05 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
​Dictator Mbape

12:06 PM
@anselman3156
​​L'Acadamie tried to resist Anglicismes, unsuccessfully

12:06 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​The truth is what is not in dispute.

12:06 PM
@MortyLlava
​​Christians take pride of the authenticity about Cathedrals being a European achievement, but dont appreciate that the first medieval Europran operative stonemasons were Muslim that built the monuments

12:06 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​Too much for chat I think, Claire. Not sure I could get my point across

12:07 PM
@βρεττς
​​Rob can be right. Some not all tho

12:07 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@SeekingGenuine Americans can surely just be informed of what Gibbon said and that the Founding Fathers read his book.

12:07 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
​Rob Christian civilisation> Muslim civilisation. Cry harder

12:07 PM
@MortyLlava
​​"first" meaning where the techne transferred from

12:08 PM
@βρεττς
​​So what they read many books.

12:08 PM
@teestrypzSOG
​#2
​Douglas Murray is practically Jewish. Not surprised he’s in NY

12:08 PM
@MortyLlava
​​Tayo, it was an example to demonstrate a point ability the topic demonstrating what i was saying about sincerity vs authenticity

12:08 PM
@anselman3156
​​Murray is best ignored. He does not represent British people

12:08 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire is a very important book.

12:09 PM
@anselman3156
​​You Americans are too swayed by British accents

12:09 PM
@βρεττς
​​I sent you a link about Thomas Jefferson in his library of collection

12:09 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​Murray is an infamous Islamophobe and a homosexual too.

12:09 PM
@βρεττς
​​Did the guy read tens of thousands of books your cause and affect is astounding

12:10 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​It is clear that the Founding Fathers sought to protect their republic from the consequences of Christianity, hence the First Amendment.

12:10 PM
@MortyLlava
​​Brett, it shows that Muslims have played a role in European civilizational development leveling the "migrant crisis"

12:10 PM
@anselman3156
​​Murray was a even more inhumane supporter of criminal violence than Peterson

12:11 PM
@βρεττς
​​Looks clear to you is how you see things through your glass. It’s not clear as if you’re aware it’s cloudy or not.

12:11 PM
@anselman3156
​​propagandist for Bibi's regime

12:11 PM
@MortyLlava
​​TLC and Pageau view Cathedrals as a symbol of white supremacy and wont admit what has been historically established

12:11 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
​By that logic Americans are still British. And everyone on earth is African

12:12 PM
@βρεττς
​​So this is about giving credit or credit is due? Interesting.

12:13 PM
@MortyLlava
​​African Afroasiatic Moors were more technologically advanced than Europeans during medieval period, and Trans Atlantic Slavery allowed for Europeans to have an advantage over other world civilizations

12:13 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#3
​This seems so pointless. Or joy-less. Why not celebrate the role of different cultures, and yes, educate ourselves in that, vs. continuous grievance uttering?

12:13 PM
@βρεττς
​​And the point? I wonder if God gets any credit.

12:13 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
​Semiotics smuggling on the Chris show 🙌👏🙌👏

12:15 PM
@MortyLlava
​​ethnosemiotics is anthropomorphised "G-d" made in the image of your ethnicity

12:16 PM
@MortyLlava
​​Hebrew is an Afroasiatic language, Semitic is a branch of the Afroasiatic family tree

12:16 PM
@βρεττς
​​Paul and Saul are different in these examples but I definitely agree.

12:17 PM
@YoavBressler
​​Guess what - the holy land is located between asia and africa.

12:17 PM
@anselman3156
​​Adam used his God-given intelligence to do taxonomical categorisation, science

12:17 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​Sharia protects citizens from their corrupt ruling classes better than fake Christianity causing Christian men to pray to Jesus as a survival strategy provoking the contempt of their women.

12:18 PM
@βρεττς
​​Yeah so God doesn’t get credit. I guess. Africa made God.

12:18 PM
@MortyLlava
​​"hence" why Moors and Jews were exiled after Reconquista during the Inquisition

12:18 PM
@anselman3156
​​Father Adam was unimaginably intelligent

12:18 PM
@βρεττς
​​Claire, you’re so funny women have contempt for men because they pray to Jesus that’s a good one

12:18 PM
@MortyLlava
​​antisemitism and racism come from the same root

12:19 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​Instead of looking up with rules their corrupt ruling classes have broken, Christians talk about irrelevant stuff that will not assist them in political activism which it seems they wish to avoid.

12:19 PM
@βρεττς
​​Rob detach

12:19 PM
@MortyLlava
​​Arabic and Berber are Afroasiatic languages

12:19 PM
@βρεττς
​​Political activism isn’t what Christain see as the highest nor are they seeking to getting there

12:20 PM
@YoavBressler
​​Guess what - arabic was not invented in europe

12:20 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​Listen to the sheer amount of displacement therapy, talking about weeds and unprovable theories and stories.

12:20 PM
@anselman3156
​​Adam was not naming pets He was scientifically categorising

12:21 PM
@anselman3156
​​Don't have a dumbed down view of Adam

12:21 PM
@MortyLlava
​​"Spanish" is Moorish Latin otherwise known as "Vulgar" Latin.. 800 years tends to impact society

12:21 PM
@YoavBressler
​​It is not too small and not too big - I think I will call it a Pig.

12:22 PM
@anselman3156
​​Bobby Dylan fan in chat

12:22 PM
@YoavBressler
​​"I am not a number = I am a free man!"

12:23 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​Surely you have heard of Christian Democrats,, Christian Socialists, Christian Nationalists etc, Brett? I know you would rather retire to a monastery, but think of the extinct Essenes!

12:23 PM
@anselman3156
​​Flamencos are beautiful birds

12:24 PM
@anselman3156
​​Flamingoes are Dutch speaking Belgians

12:24 PM
@βρεττς
​​Lots of people claim Christianity. And you accept what they say, and assume an entire religious group.

12:24 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​What Christianity does to Christians is that they are told they have to believe in Jesus or they will go to hell filling them up with guilt and fear if they believe, designed to paralyse them.

12:25 PM
@βρεττς
​​Well, I guess it’s not working cause I don’t feel very paralyzed.

12:26 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​The fake Christians who don't really believe will just use their fake Christianity to derive an income from it.

12:26 PM
@βρεττς
​​We agree, Claire

12:26 PM
@YoavBressler
​​Hebrew rules!

12:26 PM
@anselman3156
​​Fake Muslim/Fake Chabadist Claire

12:27 PM
@anselman3156
​​Yeah You fall for N T Wright too

12:27 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​Hollywood makes plenty of villains English eg Dracula!

12:28 PM
@βρεττς
​​Yes people love attractiveness. They’re more engaged when I feel like they have to look away.

12:28 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#3
​Don’t make me espouse the superiority of the German race….

12:28 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​Now they want to divide us by accents! I want a Southern accent learned by English actress Vivien Leigh when she played Scarlet O'Hara in Gond with the Wind.

12:28 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@stefaniecristos8514 I have not yet met a German I did not like.

12:29 PM
@βρεττς
​​The way that people look at people is unfortunate. Because there’s beauty behind every smile.

12:29 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#3
​Claire, we are superior rule followers. 😘

12:30 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#3
​It’s led to great good and great evil

12:30 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@stefaniecristos8514 What has led to great good and evil?

12:31 PM
@anselman3156
​​Let's have greater fecundity of profilicity, multos authentikos

12:31 PM
@MortyLlava
​​ethnicity denotes common ancestry, ie a nation, which is not the modern nation state model of citizenship. jus soli vs jus sanguinis, "hence" why Trump wants to gut birthright citizenship (Dred Scott)

12:31 PM
@βρεττς
​​Generalizing an assumptions

12:31 PM
@βρεττς
​​What should we do with laws that are taken advantage of?

12:31 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@MortyLlava We don't always get on with family members and sometimes kill and are killed by them!

12:32 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​A proposition nation is basically an Islamic concept.

12:32 PM
@MortyLlava
​​Claire, I was rebuttaling Chad's remarks since he doesn't seem aware of the meaning of the words he slings around

12:33 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​Rule following

12:33 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​A proposition nation based on the best available guide to humanity is surely better than a kingdom of Jews or gentiles ruled by an absolute monarch.

12:33 PM
@MortyLlava
​​America is a continent(s) not a country

12:33 PM
@MortyLlava
​​United States "OF" America

12:34 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@stefaniecristos8514 We just have to choose the best available rule system around. Laws believed to be from God are contained in only two books.

12:34 PM
@anselman3156
​​give voice to antipresuppositionalpropositionalism

12:34 PM
@βρεττς
​​So says you. But yes, Americans did believe their part of the USA see themselves as a nation. What does that do with your proposition?

12:34 PM
@MortyLlava
​​in Declaration "united" was not capitalized because the structure evolved from confederation to federation

Sunday, 5 July 2026

Jews wanting to get to heaven ASAP would choose Islam; why they don't


AI Overview                 

Judaism teaches that individuals are held accountable for their actions. Rather than viewing it as eternal damnation, Jewish tradition describes a temporary spiritual purification process for sins, often serving as a form of divine cleansing rather than punishment.

Gehinnom (Spiritual Purification)
Purpose: The closest Jewish concept to "Hell" is Gehinnom, which translates to "the Valley of Hinnom". Mystics describe this as a temporary spiritual "washing machine" where the soul is cleansed of the spiritual blemishes caused by earthly sins.

Duration: According to rabbinic tradition in the Talmud (such as Mishnah Eduyot), this process of purification is almost always limited to a maximum of 12 months.

Outcome: Once the soul is purified, it ascends to Gan Eden (Heaven or Paradise) to experience the divine presence. Only the most unrepentant or utterly wicked are thought to be excluded.

Focus on the Here and Now 
Lack of Dogma: Because Judaism focuses primarily on the present life rather than the afterlife, there is no single, strictly defined dogma about Heaven or Hell.

Repentance: Judaism emphasizes Teshuva (repentance)—the idea that individuals can actively reflect on their sins, correct their behavior, and seek forgiveness during their lifetimes, essentially mitigating the need for post-mortem purification.

Jewish beliefs on life after death

6:00  Purgatory is a reincarnation/recycling centre
Hindus and Buddhists worship the reincarnation unconsciously. 
7:00  Sheol

12:00  Messiah

18:00  Brains in vats
19:00  God sitting on the right hand side of God
20:00  Traumatised Christians
Koranic descriptions of heaven
21:00  Bodhisattvas
23:00  Afterlife must reward good and punish evil.
Hindus and Buddhists will be punished and rewarded with reincarnation. 
24:00  Snakes and Ladders
25:00  Adam and Eve
26:00  Choosing the religion of parents in our next life
27:00  Carol the Catholic to Muslim convert
29:00  Free will
30:00  Is our life a reward for our previous life or punishment?
31:00  Will Christians choose Christianity again?
34:00  Will deceased 21st century Christians who realise God is not Jesus be dumb enough to choose Christianity again?
37:00  Islam and Buddhism
38:00   Jewish afterlife
39:00  Jews wanting to get to heaven ASAP would choose Islam.
42:00  Islamic heaven

Propositions, friends, colleagues, associates, comrades, fellow travellers and minimum standards


1:00  Luke Thompson's theories that cannot be proven
2:00  Megan saying nothing cannot be verified
4:00  John Vervaeke the fake Buddhist
5:00  The Propositional Tyranny of the Trinity
6:00  Jen Scharf - Church of Entropy
9:00  I cannot see an error without correcting it. 
10:00  Andrew Shipley and Ian Campbell seemed to be saying that there are things worth dying for.

12:00  Just as women have to pretend to like children, men have to pretend they are prepared to die for the principle of being men ie in defence of territory, women and their children. 

13:00 Flippy Floppy Men
15:00  Defining friend
17:00  Who should be our friend?
18:00  Muslims being friends with non-Muslims
21:00  Friends and enemies
23:00  Online community
24:00  Observation and ethnography
The nature of human relationships
The choice of our friends is a political act. 
26:00  The necessity of minimum standards of morality
27:00  Laws are made to be broken. 
28:00  Men who ignore their moral imperative
29:00  Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good enough. 
The Pass Mark
30:00  Exceptions to rules
31:00  The Koran encourages Muslims to turn enemies into friends. 
32:00  A proposition nation is a theocracy. 
33:00  The full list of unalienable rights are found in the Koran. 
34:00  The First Amendment is supported by quran.com/2/256
35:00  The Founding Fathers read Edward Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
36:00  The  Founding Fathers were proto-Muslim Noahides. 

Christianity in South Africa and outside South Africa


1:37:00  CLAIRE  KHAW joins to discuss discipleship + mentoring =  proselytising and recruitment

1:40:00  "Re-enchantment"

1:42:00  Strong Christian culture in South Africa - churches mainly non-denominational

The Doctrine of the Trinity is the perfect example of Propositional Tyranny

 

1:00  Liberalism

1912: The Liberal Unionist Party (a faction that broke away from the Liberal Party over Irish Home Rule) fully merged with the Conservative Party to form the modern Conservative and Unionist Party.

1947: The National Liberals (a group that had been collaborating with the Conservatives since the 1930s) agreed to a local constituency merger with the Conservatives.

2:00  Christians don't really believe in Christianity.

3:00  Jordan Peterson's atheism

4:00  The meaning of "believe" 

6:00  The tactic of the defeated

7:00  Losers who refuse to concede when they have lost

Luke Thompson

8:00   Mediocrity is always promoted in TLC.

10:00  Compulsion

Cascades

11:00  Hierarchy

Alpha male leader PVK

John Vervaeke's Proposittional Tyranny

12:00  A shifting hierarchy of beliefs

13:00  Shifting the burden of proof

14:00  Trial by ordeal

17:00   Posting and ghosting

18:00  Jacob called Luke evil. 

19:00  TLC is a microcosm.

20:00  Rectification of names

22:00  Christianity is a blunt instrument of hatred and fear while the Koran is a sophisticated mechanism promoting the rule of law. 

24:00  Chad

26:00  The Doctrine of the Trinity is the perfect example of Propositional Tyranny.

The Shahada

28:00  Islam is absolutely logical. 

29:00  Facts and logic

32:00  The matriarchy of EU

33:00  Denial is a feminine vice. 

https://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2026/07/we-must-neither-be-hypocrite-nor.html 

35:00  Deserters should be shunned by decent women.

https://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2026/07/do-we-need-to-die-for-our-principles.html

39:00   https://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2026/06/claire-khaw-interviewed-by-david.html

40:00   CIA and FBI

41:00  Sharia

42:00  Madrassa curriculum

43:00  Dumb and dumber

44:00  Edward Gibbon's Decline and Fall of Rome

45:00  Whig history and E Michael Jones

46:00  Orthoboneheads

47:00  Survey of theistic belief

1/3 groups

48:00  Socialism with Chinese  Characterics

49:00  The Three Supremes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Supremes

51:00  Conservatism is the junior partner to the liberal order.

52:00  France and Germany

56:00  Belief in God by Substacker

58:00  Jehovah's Witness book for children

1:00:00  Better mental health with belief in  God

Meaning Crisis

1:02:00  Tucker Carlson

1:06:00  Belief in God by Substacker 

1:07:00  Greek Pantheon

1:08:00  Atenism

1:10:00  Abraham

1:11:00  Zeus

1:12:00  Book of Rules to protect your unalianable rights

1:13:00  No propositional tyranny in Islam.

1:14:00  Muslims are kinder to Jesus and Mary than Jews.

1:17:00  Tucker Carlson

1:19:00  Not all Christians are Trinitarians. 

1:20:00  The benefits of sharia

1:21:00  Problem Christians

Saturday, 4 July 2026

Talking to McMobile for the first time


2:00:00  Cape Fear

2:01:00  The labels we go by may not reflect our true opinion on any matter because most of us are hypocrites who want to be mainstream. In order to be part of the in-crowd, we have to exclude others  from our group with Propositional Tyranny requiring those who want to join our group to fulfil certain minimum conditions eg believe in the Trinity if we want to call ourselves Trinitarian. 

Religion is linked to morality and politics.

2:02:00  Meaning  Crisis = Fairness Crisis

2:03:00  Friendship is a political act. 
 
2:04:00  Ayn Rand

2:05:00  Fellow traveller

2:06:00  Socrates and Glaucon

2:07:00  Muslims are not supposed to prefer Jews to Christian friends to Muslims, but Muslim men are allowed to marry Jewesses, Christian woman as well as Muslim women of any race. 

2:08:00  The Koran warns men that their wives and children could be an enemy to them. 

We should be loyal to our principles.

2:10:00  Imitation of my voice

2:11:00  The wide interpretation of friend

My tenacity and sense of humour

2:13:00  Safeword

2:14:00  David Busuttil

2:16:00  Autists and artists

2:18:00  Genre

Only the status quo rivals Secular Koranism

What rivals Secular Koranism? 1:00  Remigration 2:00  Neologisms Re-enchantment Degeneracy 3:00  Carry on voting is not a viable long term s...