11:44 AM
@βρεττς
Meanwhile, the sermon on the mountain is telling them they’re all sinners more than just the law does
11:45 AM
@βρεττς
Yeah, the sermon had a little more than just to be attitudes
11:50 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
Jesus was a Commie?! God forbid!
11:52 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
Christianity is so extreme that no sensible person seriously expects to really follow it, and then they are riddled by guilt. It is actually Christianity that is the religion of extremism.
11:52 AM
@Smithistory
the blue church has no conception of civil society vs government because we don't teach about how civil society solved social problems before governments mucked things up
11:52 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
Being riddled by guilt makes the subjects of absolute monarchs easy to manipulate.
11:52 AM
@βρεττς
That was a different time they were being persecuted
11:53 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
Am I the only progressive in the chat?
11:54 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
Great to hear Tunji talk about the MORAL IMPERATIVE!
11:54 AM
@Smithistory
if Claire was as deep in libertarianism as Google would suggest, she should know about that stuff, mutual aid societies, friendly societies, fraternal societies etc.
11:54 AM
@shoulderserf
I Kant understand the moral imperative
11:55 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
TLCC. This little conservative corner
11:55 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@Smithistory Know about what stuff?
11:56 AM
@chrishoward8473
@teestrypzSOG I hope you help keep us honest
11:56 AM
@Smithistory
the society organizations I mentioned as a social safety net.
11:56 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
The solution should be obvious to Tunji!
11:57 AM
@shoulderserf
Yes - a Dad Joke slipped past my fingertips
11:57 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Redemption is also a concept in Judaism and Islam and they actually have a better system.
11:57 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Religious principles are safety rails for us.
11:58 AM
@βρεττς
But if you have no guilt, where do you go OSK
11:58 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Truth will set you free, Tunji! That was what Jesus said.
11:58 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
Progressive Christians lack faith?
11:59 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
John 8:32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
11:59 AM
@βρεττς
What do you do with your guilt OSK?
11:59 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@teestrypzSOG Do progressive Christians even believe in the afterlife?
12:00 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@βρεττς What should I feel guilty about?
12:00 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
You don’t know if you believe in God, I’m not engaging you on theology
12:01 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
I think it is important that Christians distinguish between Christian atheists like Bart Ehrman and the ones who believe in the afterlife.
12:02 PM
@βρεττς
You think Christian’s only care about where we’re going as opposed to what we’re doing and why we’re doing it.
12:03 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@teestrypzSOG I actually promote obedience to God's laws even if He does not exist and say people should obey His laws if they claim to believe in God. If they do not, they must be atheists.
12:03 PM
@βρεττς
And what should we do with all the atheist OSK
12:03 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@βρεττς Christians are just using their Christianity to justify their political apathy.
12:04 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@βρεττς I am agnostic. I am sure you would like Chris to ban me.
12:04 PM
@Smithistory
I had a hard time watching that pearl video with Richard Rollin. he's talking about icons and she's basically saying "I like turtles" the whole time.
12:04 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@Smithistory If Pearl cared about solutions, she would be talking about SK USA.
12:05 PM
@βρεττς
I’m content with other people allowing you to say the same thing over and over again in the comments.
12:05 PM
@βρεττς
But I’m trying for more than that. It gets really bad when you and Rob are constantly going back-and-forth in the chat and I can’t read anybody else’s opinions
12:05 PM
@Smithistory
PVK YouTube strategy must not be working, at it for all these years and not even 100k subs.
12:06 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@teestrypzSOG As I was saying yesterday, I don't need to believe in God to know that a Jehovah's Witness is being heretical to his own religion if he says he worships the Trinity.
12:06 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@βρεττς Whatever I am guilty of, it is not hypocrisy and idolatry.
12:07 PM
@βρεττς
We all have idols. You’re just not willing to admit yours.
12:07 PM
@Smithistory
gender Marxism, perpetual gender struggle.
12:07 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@FungsiYukHunPo Rowan Williams says nothing clearly.
12:08 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
The red
12:08 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@βρεττς At least I know it is idolatry to worship a man and know about the Third Principle of Judaism.
12:09 PM
@βρεττς
I worship the Man God
12:09 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
The red-Pillingfication of orthodoxy
12:09 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@βρεττς I think you are capable of understanding that anthropomorphism is idolatry.
12:10 PM
@βρεττς
It’s what the whole Old Testament was pointing to was a Messiah. And what the Jews understood that to mean. And when he showed up, he flipped everything upside down on their thinking.
12:10 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
ARggh! Jordan Peterson is atheist!
12:10 PM
@βρεττς
That’s why men were willing to die for what they believe. And men don’t die for a lie.
12:11 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@βρεττς How do you know men don't die for a lie?
12:11 PM
@βρεττς
They may die for a lie, but not one they know is a lie
12:11 PM
@βρεττς
And I don’t believe in mass hallucinations
12:11 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@βρεττς The Messiah has not come. Why are we arguing about what has not even happened?
12:11 PM
@Smithistory
there are economies of scale and diseconomies of scale
12:12 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@βρεττς What mass hallucinations?
12:12 PM
@βρεττς
Hundreds of people witnessed Jesus after he died
12:13 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
Worse? You guys have you guy in office
12:13 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
The woke is dead
12:13 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@chrishoward8473 You do know that Jordan Peterson refused to say that he believed in God, don't you? My convictions don't rest in belief in God but in the rule of law and what promotes it.
12:14 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@βρεττς These are just stories. What can be argued is whether it is idolatry to worship a man.
12:15 PM
@βρεττς
You either believe what Jesus said about himself or you don’t. You even believe what men witnessed or you don’t.
12:16 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@FungsiYukHunPo "Woke" is probably another one of those Great Awakenings in America! Let Americans have taqwa so they don't need to be awakened again and again!
12:16 PM
@FungsiYukHunPo
Kal is not the only sick person in the TLC
12:17 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@chrishoward8473 American husbands just need to get their wives to agree to the abolition of no fault divorce.
12:18 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@FungsiYukHunPo There was Digital Gnosis.
12:19 PM
@FungsiYukHunPo
Claire, if you only knew how I make arguments against all sides if the culture war debates but in this space have to call out white grievance ignorance and hate. I spoke out to the community for years
12:19 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@FungsiYukHunPo AA is the unofficial religion of America.
12:20 PM
@βρεττς
Copy paste, the script the two of you
12:20 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
Grab em by the pussy
12:21 PM
@FungsiYukHunPo
Claire, I dont fit into the "Left" box neither
12:21 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@FungsiYukHunPo I actually say any social conservative who has ever complained about his government but rejects sharia is by definition an Islamophobe who has lost the argument.
12:22 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@FungsiYukHunPo I reject the right/left classification because it is incoherent.
12:22 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
I think we are closer to the truth and its confession.
12:22 PM
@βρεττς
Progress gets co-opted by agendas. Most Christians can have a level of tolerance to liberal ideas. But it’s the results that caused the repulsion.
12:23 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@βρεττς Liberalism was a reaction against and a rejection of Christianity. 250 years later, it is time to admit this.
12:24 PM
@FungsiYukHunPo
white grievance culture stems from Civil War Reconstruction into the Dixiecrat flip into the Moral Majority and Tea Party, now morphed into Alt Right taking over the administration
12:24 PM
@βρεττς
Progressive ism got co-opted and did more dividing than uniting
12:24 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Islam actually gives people more rights than Christianity because the latter supports absolute monarchy while the former supports constitutional republics.
12:24 PM
@βρεττς
Image of God, United
12:25 PM
@chrishoward8473
@FungsIYukHunPo those are interesting topics
12:25 PM
@FungsiYukHunPo
the Eurocentric Jesus icon image was based on Serapis
12:27 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@FungsiYukHunPo The solution is so simple. Americans just have to go back to their historical roots of asking themselves which holy book supports the First Amendment. @chrishoward8473
12:29 PM
@βρεττς
This is why I don’t like the word embody. I think the Holy Spirit moves through the screens and makes connections with people that are more real than people realize.
12:29 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
The rule of law is to always get it down in writing or you have nothing on the law breakers. Even if the law is broken, there is the possibility of a legal remedy, which must be pursued energetically
