It is blasphemy to say God in a fit of absentmindedness put us in the wrong body

 

1:00  Absolute monarchs can be tyrannical about enforcing their religion on their subjects.

2:00  Is there a single Christianity?

3:00  The Catholic Church

4:00  Christianity was always multicultural. 

5:00  Shia > Sunni

6:00  Iran's way of dealing with demonstrators

8:00  An official moral system

9:00  Mark quotes Micah 6:8 as definitive of Christianity,  to my surprise.

10:00  Matthew 5-7

12:00  As long as we are not criminals

13:00  Gay marriage, transgenderism and unisex toilets

14:00  Transgenderism

15:00  Christian values

16:00  "They think they are saving a life." 

18:00  It is blasphemy to say God in a fit of absent mindedness put us in the wrong body.

1:04:00  Tayo: "Nigerian Muslims see me like Claire being pissed off at the Trinity in the chat. That's how every Muslim is every single time. Doesn't matter where the conversation starts, it ends with the Trinity once they find out you're Christian."

"Where my beef with Nigerian Muslims is on theological front. I'm trying to save them from their religion that they believe in sometimes more than it feels like I believe in mine. "

1:04:44  @redpandaftwy2k

​​Wahabist Islam is a direct product of American destabilisation of the Middle East and globalism and consumerism (i.e. Sayyid Qutb). It's an American export.

1:43:00  CLAIRE KHAW appears.

1:45:31  @Phlebas_1099

​​' "Abrahamic Religion" is a psyop.'

How so?

1:46:00  I am trying to make the point that religions that execute heretics for blasphemy are more "tyrannical" than a religion that support the First Amendment with quran.com/2/256

I wonder if the point is ever grasped.

1:46:29  @Phlebas_1099

'​​Johnny come lately muslim heretics don't get equal footing with that psyop term.'

Who are these Muslim heretics and can they be named?

1:47:00  Christendom - a Europe of Christian kingdoms when absolute monarchs were guided by the Pope - was when Europeans had a "single Christianity". Christianity began as an imperial Roman monopoly and declined into a failing franchise rejected by the Founding Fathers.

1:47:43  @Phlebas_1099  

"​​PVK said something about exploring the useless adjective "Christianity". Could be interesting along this line Claire is pursueing."

Did PVK really say Christianity is useless?!

Pointing out to Vincent Bruno that patriarchy supported by marriage is more eugenic than matriarchy

1:00  Being shadowbanned

2:00  Clavicular becoming a father

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clavicular_(influencer)

6:00  Vincent just does not take parenting seriously if he thinks Clavicular would have no problem being a good father. 

8:00  Vincent admits that only a poor female who is desperate enough would want to lower herself to be the mother of Clavicular's bastard.

9:00  Harem

https://www.bollywoodshaadis.com/articles/is-clavicular-expecting-a-child-with-a-woman-he-met-only-10-days-ago-78282

13:00  Vincent is so indifferent to the interests of the next generation ie everyone else's children that he would use a plan with a 99% failure rate as his hypothetical guinea pigs. 

AI Overview

Studies suggest a high correlation between father-absent homes and criminal behavior, with estimates showing that 70% to 90% of young men in prison grew up without their father. Research indicates children from such homes are at a greater risk of engaging in criminal activity, with some studies showing they are twice as likely to be convicted. 

Key Findings: A 2021 report noted that 76% of young men in prison in England and Wales had absent fathers.

Youth Offenders: About 70% of young offenders in some studies come from lone-parent families.

Gang Membership: A high percentage of gang members come from father-absent homes.

Incarceration Rates: Children living with only one parent or neither are more likely to have a violent conviction by the age of 50, according to some analyses.

Contextual Factors: While father absence is a significant factor, researchers also highlight that poverty and the quality of parenting are crucial, contributing factors. 

Some research suggests children in father-absent homes are significantly more likely to engage in crime. Others note that while 76% of young offenders have an absent father, other studies suggest only 47% of inmates reported growing up with both parents.

https://share.google/aimode/aZJrchDBbflNuCGbL

14:00  "Religious impulse" 

15:00  Marriage eugenic.

Is Clavicular marriageable?

16:00  Making women choose carefully

17:00  Vincent comes from a broken home. 

18:00  No fault divorce encourages divorce. 

19:00  Promiscuity

$500,000 being offered by Clavicular to be mother of his child.

22:00  Drug overdose

23:00  What kind of a woman would want to marry a gay man with mental health issues?

24:00  Defining marriageability

25:00  The Pill

28:00  Marriage is eugenic.

31:00  Vincent is one of four and supports a four child policy.

33:00  A moral hierarchy

Carrot and stick

34:00  Reward and punishment

35:00  Illegitimate offspring

 36:00  Patriarchs and kings

37:00  Why patriarchy is eugenic

39:00  All societies need a working class.

Polygamous Mormons

41:00  Mormon marriages

42:00  The Roman Empire considered imposing a bachelor tax.

43:00  Clavicular as a eugenic cult leader, according to Vincent. 

44:00  Definition of eugenic

45:00  Disabled offspring

47:00  People could stop loving us even if we did not become physically disabled or mentally incapacitated.

48:00  It is in the long term national interest for the government to support marriage.

49:00  Disability benefit

50:00  Minneapolis Somali fraudsters

52:00  Eskimos

54:00  Egalitarianism

55:00  Nobody wants their beloved child who is able bodied without learning difficulties to marry someone with learning difficulties and is physically disabled.

57:00  Vincent's disabled elder brother  

58:00   Disabled children never really grow up and thus continue to receive the protection of their parents, if loved. 

AI Overview

There are more disabled people in the United States now than in previous years. Data indicates a steady, long-term increase in disability prevalence, with a notable acceleration in the number of Americans identifying as disabled following the COVID-19 pandemic. 

As of early 2026, the number of Americans aged 16 and older reporting a disability has hovered near record highs, recently holding at approximately 36.2 million. 

Key Trends and Statistics

Post-2020 Surge: Disability prevalence among younger adults (ages 16–34) has risen, a trend that accelerated after 2020.

Current Prevalence: Over 1 in 4 adults in the U.S. now report having a disability, representing roughly 28.7% of the population.

Aging Population: A major driver is the aging population, as disability rates are significantly higher among those over 65 (40%–50%+).

Childhood Disabilities: The rate of developmental disabilities in U.S. children (ages 3–17) has also increased, rising from 16.2% (2009–2011) to over 17% in more recent reports.

Rise in Mental Health Conditions: A significant portion of the increase in disability claims since 2020 is attributed to mental health or behavioral conditions. 

Reasons for the Increase

Long COVID: Lingering effects of COVID-19 have created new disabilities and worsened existing conditions.

Improved Detection: Increased awareness, improved screening, and broader diagnostic criteria for conditions such as autism and ADHD have increased reporting rates.

Aging Demographic: As a larger portion of the population enters older age groups, the total number of people with age-related functional limitations grows.

Chronic Health Conditions: Rising rates of conditions like obesity and diabetes have contributed to higher disability prevalence. 

While some surveys have shown slight fluctuations, the consensus in the 2020s points to a sustained, elevated number of Americans with disabilities.

https://share.google/aimode/wXjdwtNo3VZ1ydKJl

1:00:00  Twelve Table of Rome

AI Overview

The Twelve Tables (circa 450 BC) were the foundation of ancient Roman law, established to codify unwritten customs and provide legal transparency following intense plebeian pressure on the patrician class. Posted in the Roman Forum, these laws covered legal procedures, property rights, family authority, and inheritance, acting as a critical step in reducing arbitrary legal decisions by magistrates. 

Key Details of the Twelve Tables

Origin: Created by a committee of ten men known as the decemviri.

Context: Developed during a period of conflict between plebeians (commoners) and patricians (aristocrats), ensuring laws were displayed publicly for all to see.

Contents: The tables, which were destroyed by Gauls in 390 BC, largely covered private disputes and procedural law rather than constitutional law. 

Major Legal Principles Covered

Legal Procedure (Tables I-III): Established formal trial procedures. If a defendant refused to appear in court, a plaintiff could use force, but only in front of witnesses.

Debt/Foreclosure (Table III): Creditors could shackle debtors and eventually sell them into slavery, though this was later reformed.

Family/Paternal Authority (Table IV): Granted the father (paterfamilias) absolute power of life and death over children. It also mandated that a "dreadfully deformed child" be killed.

Inheritance/Guardianship (Table V): Allowed for inheritance to be passed by will and established guardians for women and the insane.

Property Law (Tables VI-VIII): Regulated property transfers, land disputes, and debt. It also addressed damage caused by animals or falling trees.

Public/Religious Law (Tables X-XII): Included regulations against excessive funerals, such as prohibiting burial or burning of dead bodies within the city limits. 

The Twelve Tables were seen as a major move toward equality, allowing plebeians to know their rights and challenge the ruling class. They remained the foundation of Roman law for centuries.

1:01:00  Prince Paris of Troy was supposed to have been exposed because he was born under an unlucky star.

1:02:00  Bad parenting

1:03:00  Marriage regulates human sexuality.

Why monogamy is now the rule

1:04:00  Polygamous societies are less stable than monogamous societies. 

Vincent Bruno continues to deny that marriage is eugenic

 Eugenic genetic engineering & 2 dads/2 moms: https://t.co/VJ8D9xrDww https://t.co/ozx86LTTMP

— Real Vincent Bruno (@RealVinBruno) April 27, 2026

4:00  Space begins. Gay man Vincent outlines his fantasy breeding plans for straight people as if honest  and rational moral people would want to take seriously someone who would be considered a sex offender by the patriarchy. 

13:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins to say she is aware of Vincent's breeding programme. 

14:00  Surrogacy

15:00  Vincent agrees it is important for us to know who our parents are. 

16:00  The problem of surrogacy

17:00  I would treat unmarried parents as sex offenders. 

18:00  What kind of woman would agree to give birth to a child of a gay man?

19:00  Marriage is eugenic.

20:00  Most parents in the West are not married parents. 

21:00  Undermining marriage has turned the West into a matriarchy. 

22:00  Herbert Spencer and Francis Galton

24:00  Social and pack animals don't have random sex with each other. 

25:00  The process of becoming a matriarchy began with the Swinging 60s and the Sex Revolution.

26:00  Eugenics was popular in the beginning of the last century.

27:00  Marriage is a hoop you have to jump through. 

28:00  Who admits to being a eugenicist these days?

Mixed race children are not necessarily dysgenic if their parents are married.

30:00  Parents would be fussy about who their children married.

31:00  Labour shortage caused by low birth rate.

32:00   Jews are not to blame for ever lowering standards of sexual morality since Jews who take religion seriously are  supposed to take marriage seriously. As for liberal Jews, they are heretics whose opinions should be  dismissed. 

33:00  Defining terms is important to reach the correct decision. 

Marriage is eugenic. 

34:00  Definition of murder

Justice includes mercy

55:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins.

56:00  The legal standard

57:00  Getting away with murder if no one is looking.

58:00  Jews and Muslims believe they can get their sins forgiven without believing in Jesus. 

59:00  Treating the offender with justice must take all the circumstances into consideration: hardened criminals deserve to be punished more harshly than first time offenders.

Sentencing guidelines

1:01:00  Scott: "Jesus is both justice and mercy."

1:02:00  Hypocrites who call themselves Christian

1:03:00  Hierarchy

The difference between a true believer and a free rider

1:04:00  Who obeys the rules and who breaks them

1:05:00  Karens

1:06:00  The evil inclination

1:07:00  Categorising people according to whether they believe in the story and obey the rules

1:08:00  The spirit of the law

Nelson

1:09:00  Juries

1:10:00  Taking God's laws seriously

1:11:00  The Noahide laws

1:12:00  Obedience 

1:13:00  The popular vote as consultation

1:14:00  Eskimos

Bart Ehrman's atheist Christian gravy train; True believer > Cultural Christian > Christian Atheist

11:50 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#3

​Hamlet: "There is nothing good or bad. Only thinking makes it so."

11:51 AM

@βρεττς

#1

​If so “to be or not to be” truly does become the question.

11:52 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@βρεττς Suicide is forbidden in the Koran.

11:52 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​Jordan Peterson was the first sign of facts and logic being outlawed by the matriarchy.

11:53 AM

@βρεττς

#2

​Just playing the tape to the end with that philosophy. The danger of elevating the self having so much “power” of “control”

11:55 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#1

​Jordan Peterson has had to abdicate due to illness as the elder for Protestant social conservatism and promoter of facts and logic. Who will be leader for solving problems with facts and logic?

11:55 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#1

​Jordan Peterson represents boomer social conservatism, but it seems he is not up to the job.

11:56 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#1

​Cultural Christianity is a euphemism for atheism.

11:56 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#1

​Jordan Peterson did not have the courage of his convictions to support Christianity or even say he believed in God.

11:57 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#1

​Why qualify your Christianity with calling it cultural? It only means your culture is Christian without necessarily believing in God.

11:57 AM

@βρεττς

#2

​I don’t need a leader or a hierarchy in the horizontal. The vertical gives power to who he gives power for our horizontal space.

11:57 AM

@teestrypzSOG

​​Claire does not have the conviction to become a muslim or even to say she believes in God

11:58 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#1

​What does it mean to be Christian? Christians dare not discuss this because they know even talking about Christian identity is a social taboo, let alone theology.

11:58 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#1

​@teestrypzSOG Even atheists see the point of religion, don't they?

11:58 AM

@teestrypzSOG

​​go to church Woman

11:58 AM

@βρεττς

#2

​From a utilitarian way

11:59 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#1

​Christians are already categorised as believing Christians and cultural Christians.

11:59 AM

@alohm

​​Northrop Frye Worte a two volume work The Bible Code, showing that our very archetypes of knowing is Christian here in the West.

12:00 PM

@alohm

​​Wrote even. I believe that most cultures do believe God to be the Ultimate, but they may not call it God, but Ishwara or Brahman?

12:00 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#1

​Atheists always say "Religion is mind control." Isn't that what religion is? Believing in God is allowing The Supreme Thought Policeman into your mind.

12:01 PM

@βρεττς

#2

​Nobody truly in the heart can deny God. It’s just an expression of

12:01 PM

@βρεττς

#2

​Anger in the autonomy

12:01 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#1

​@alohm What people call the Abrahamic God is irrelevant. If they don't believe in the afterlife where good will be rewarded and evil punished, they might as well not bother pretending to believe.

12:03 PM

@βρεττς

#2

​It’s about HIS glory not our reward

12:03 PM

@teestrypzSOG

​​not sharing

12:03 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#1

​@βρεττς WHAT is about God's glory?

12:03 PM

@βρεττς

#2

​But HE does and up punishing evil

12:03 PM

@Eolson-helper

#3

​Claire - didnt you say you don’t believe in an afterlife?

12:04 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#1

​@Eolson-helper I am agnostic.

12:04 PM

@βρεττς

#2

​I’m here to glorify God and know HIM. That is my purpose

12:05 PM

@Eolson-helper

#3

​Not as a gotcha question but trying to understand your position: as agnostic, so you believe in an afterlife?

12:05 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#1

​"Christian larper"?

12:05 PM

@alohm

​​Surah 4:125 in the Quran : Any believer in the Abrahamic God...

12:05 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​For HIS glory

12:05 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​"Fake Christian"?

12:05 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​"Hypocrite"?

12:05 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​Difference of what you think a question is that’s all

12:06 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@βρεττς I have no idea what you are trying to say to me with your broken sentences.

12:06 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​Scripture alone Grace aloneFaith aloneChrist aloneGlory of God alone

12:07 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​I’m not a great writer. And I’m ok with that. I’m imperfect

12:07 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​I’m sorry it’s not intelligible

12:07 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​I am not sure why Chris is disagreeing with me about there being a qualitative difference between being a believing Christian and a Cultural Christian.

12:08 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@βρεττς I think you are just disagreeing with me for the sake of disagreeing with me.

12:08 PM

@teestrypzSOG

​​great marketing

12:08 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​Cultural Christianity is a utilitarian

12:09 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​I’m offering pushback and not hearing what I’m saying. Which is fine.

12:09 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@βρεττς Obviously, true believers should be higher status than virtue signalling hypocrites. The Koran says hypocrites are Hell-bound.

12:10 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@βρεττς Surely you agree that in any belief system, the true believer should be higher status than the hypocrite who only pretends to believe?

12:10 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​I don’t think I’m higher status for being a believer. You should hear my conversation with Tayo

12:10 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​Right T?

12:10 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@βρεττς What were you discussing with Tayo?

12:11 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@βρεττς So you would be OK with a Calvinist pastor who does not believe in God?

12:11 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​@TheA-Flock-AlypseNow

12:11 PM

@teestrypzSOG

​​lol you're talking to a wall Brett, she's not listening

12:11 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@teestrypzSOG I am actually trying to get @βρεττς to explain himself, but it seems he cannot.

12:12 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​And that’s fine

12:13 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​I didn't coin the term "true believer". I am surprised Chris disagreed with me about being Bart Ehrman being Cultural Christian and atheist Christian after spending so much time talking about him.

12:13 PM

@teestrypzSOG

​​no you're trying to get him to confirm your simulacra of what a christian is

12:14 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@βρεττς I think the problem is that you have no coherent arguments against my arguments but still want to win the argument. What are we arguing about anyway?

12:15 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​I don’t wanna win an argument, but I would love for Christ to change your heart. And it would be his doing not anything I convince you of.

12:15 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​How? You ask. Try testing him with prayer in sincerity.

12:15 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@teestrypzSOG I am saying a confirmed Christian is higher status than Cultural Christian as far as Christianity is concerned. Most Westerners are not believing Christians.

12:16 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@βρεττς Change my heart from what into what?

12:16 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​A heart of stone into a heart of flesh

12:17 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@βρεττς How am I being hard-hearted? I am showing care and concern for Americans and their failing political system caused by them ignoring the farewell speech of George Washington.

12:18 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​The problem is that Westerners don't seem to think that they need an OFFICIAL MORAL SYSTEM, or just lack the ability or interest to discuss abstract ideas.

12:19 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@βρεττς You're a graduate, aren't you?

12:19 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​“And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.”Ezekiel 36:26 ESV

12:20 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@βρεττς Are you calling anyone who is not Christian someone with a heart of stone?

12:22 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@βρεττς Ezekiel is from the Old Testament. This means Jews do not agree with the Christian interpretation of their scripture.

12:23 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​Are you actually was. They believe in the Messiah and what was said.

12:24 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​Just not who he was

12:24 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​And still is

12:24 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@βρεττς Jews, Christians and Muslims expect the Messiah to come in the End Times. Why argue about something that has not yet happened?

12:25 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@βρεττς Christians accept the Ten Commandments forbidding idolatry and blasphemy amongst other things. Christians never care that Jews and Muslims think worshiping a man is idolatry, for some reason.

12:25 PM

@βρεττς

​#3

​I’m talking about him coming into creation as a man. The first coming not the second coming

12:26 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​I probably should specify the truly man truly God fact as well

12:26 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@βρεττς None of that matters. The most important thing for Christians believing in the afterlife is whether Christianity is idolatry.

12:27 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@βρεττς There is no authority for the proposition of the Trinity in the New Testament which does not even mention it.

12:27 PM

@βρεττς

​​No, it’s not. And you’re framing is tiring.

12:27 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@βρεττς Would you agree that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence?

12:28 PM

@βρεττς

​​No, I wouldn’t. Sometimes the extraordinary just is. The idea that something so magnificent can create all things and I can know everything through factual human understanding is crazy to me.

12:29 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@βρεττς I just cannot understand why Christians who claim to believe in God and the afterlife are indifferent to the possibility that the Trinity could be idolatry and a mortal sin.

12:29 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@βρεττς Would you agree that the Abrahamic is logical?

12:31 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@chrishoward8473 The best boxer would be the one who wins without breaking the rules.

********************************

1:02:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins to discuss who is a good robber is a competent robber. 

1:04:00  Robin Hood

The Whiskey Bandit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Whiskey_Bandit

1:08:00  Objective criteria

True believer > Cultural Christian > Christian Atheist

Olson makes me bang my desk by his dumb question: "Why do we need to resolve anything?"

1:14:00  Successful robbers < their victims?

1:17:00  Rules and being on the right side of them

1:19:00  Competence

1:20:00  To whom or what are you loyal?

1:21:00  Properly understood, sharia is just the law of God. If we believe in God, why wouldn't we obey His laws especially if He supports the First Amendment with quran.com/2/256? If His laws are not contained in the Koran, where are they contained? If it is thought God's laws are also contained in the Torah, may I remind Jews, Christians and Muslims that the Torah has 36 capital offences while the Koran supports the First Amendment with quran.com/2/256?

1:22:00  Rational argument > irrational argument

1:23:00  Love thy neighbour

1:24:00  "It would be nice to have an Archbishop of Canterbury who actually believes in God, for a change." 

1:25:00   What if the Pope said He didn't believe in God?

1:26:00  Gravy train

1:31:00  Bart Ehrman is talking out of both sides of his mouth.

I was only trying to make the point that if Christians were being rational, they would consider Christians who believe in Christianity to be better than people who claim to be Christians and then qualify their Christianity by saying they are a "Christian atheist", like Bart Ehrman.  

In my view, if you believe in successful Christianity, you would have to worship the Trinity because Trinitarian churches are the more powerful than non-Trinitarian churches eg Unitarian Christianity, Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses.  

A confirmed Christian would be higher status than a cultural Christian though I accept that there could be confirmed Christians who go through the motions of being Christian but who are still not believing Christians. 

If Catholics have a Pope and Anglicans have an Archbishop of Canterbury that are secretly or openly atheists, then Christianity would acquire the reputation of not being a religion taken seriously even by people who claim to be Christian. If Christians tolerate a Pope or Archbishop of Canterbury who does not even believe in God, then this suggests that the majority of Christians do not in fact believe in Christianity either, if they are prepared to tolerate being led by leaders who do not even subscribe to the belief system of Christianity.

"Trump attacks Jewish ally the Hindus/India, Democrats/Groypers benefit"

https://t.co/YYV4TJPMTz

— Real Vincent Bruno (@RealVinBruno) April 24, 2026

19:00  Space starts.

20:00  DR DARIYA joins to talks about Jews and Hindus.

23:00  Idolatry, eating cow dung and human flesh

25:00  Goa and Uttar Pradesh

26:00  Antisemitic attacks

27:00  "Everyone and their donkey would like to leave India." 

28:00  Dr Dariya says she is half Jewish. 

30:00  Stoning for idolatry

32:00  Milk and vegetables

33:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins and attempts be more nuanced.

34:00  "The  red dots are a giveaway."

42:00  Trump

43:00  Voting

44:00  George Washington

45:00  Americans need a common belief system.

46:00  Representative democracy is a sacred cow/

47:00  I accuse Vincent of sentimentality.

49:00  Hard for white people

https://radicalisedrabbi.blogspot.com/2026/04/e-michael-jones-and-hamzah-wald-maqbul.html

51:00  Patriarchy helps eliminate categories of people eg bachelors, women, married fathers with children who are not a credit to them, divorced men, men who are not sex offenders eg sodomites, unmarried fathers.

52:00  Qualifiers

53:00  Privileging married parents

54:00  Secular Koranism

55:00  Dismantling the patriarchy 

56:00  Vincent is in a bubble.

57:00  Midterm elections

Vivek Ramaswamy, Dan Bilzerian, Fishback

58:00  Margaret Sanger

59:00  The Pil and low birth rates

1:00:00  Vincent's parents

1:02:00  Marriage is dating.

1:03:00  Religion

Marriage is a child protection scheme.

1:04:00  Norman  Vincent Peale

1:05:00  Global empires means global wars.

Bad for business

1:06:00  Islamophobes

1:07:00  America and the rest of the world

Beyondism

1:08:00  Divisions

1:09:00  Sykes-Picot Agreement

Representative democracy should be rejected.

1:11:00  Vincent should help his fellow Americans.

1:12:00  Secular Koranism Beyondist State

1:14:00  Aarvoll

1:15:00  Quarrelling parents

1:16:00  DON joins to discuss slavery.

1:19:00  Broken homes

1:20:00  White people don't have a working class.

Hispanics

1:21:00  The welfare state was a product of abolishing slavery.

1:22:00  Control

1:23:00  Freedom

1:24:00  British working class 

1:26:00  The underlying cause of uncontrolled mass immigration

1:27:00  Feminism lowers the price of sex.

1:28:00  Gender roles and marriage

1:29:00  Standards of sexual morality

1:30:00  China's three child policy

1:32:00  LIAM joins.

1:34:00  Vincent has low quality guests.

1:35:00  Irreconcilable differences

1:36:00  Esoteric Hitlerist

1:39:00 Dr Dariya says Vincent has Vishnu dolls.

Can Christians and Liberals still afford their luxury beliefs?

12:19 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@βρεττς There is only one Abrahamic God.

12:20 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​Sure, there’s also one God of Isaac

12:21 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@βρεττς What do you mean?

12:21 PM

@βρεττς

#1

I feel like YouTube is deliberately making us glued to our subscription fee to see who’s going live

12:21 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​I mean, not the god of Ishmael

12:22 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@βρεττς YouTube is a behavioural addiction. If we are here chitchatting about nothing in particular, we do not understand what the government is up to.

12:22 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@βρεττς So you think there is more than one Abrahamic God?

12:23 PM

@βρεττς

#1

Nope but I don’t want to junk up Chris’s comments with us

12:23 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@βρεττς Chris doesn't mind. There's nothing going on here anyway.

12:23 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​It’s forcing Chris to read through our crap to get something meaningful to bring up

12:24 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@βρεττς What could be more meaningful than theology to people who believe in God?

12:25 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​Time and place

12:25 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@βρεττς When would be the time? Where would be the place?

12:25 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​Balance

12:26 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​Ron offshoring the prayer request.

12:26 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@βρεττς Are you calling me unbalanced? It's just the two of us.

12:27 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​Lean more towards casual talk from time to time in what people are discussing on screen would be balanced

12:27 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​Analysis, diagnosis and prognosis is better than prayer chains.

12:29 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@βρεττς Soylent Green

12:30 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​That movie definitely had deep connotations

12:34 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​Luxury beliefs was definitely in dinner with Andre

12:38 PM

@βρεττς

​#1

​Probably depends on whether he was asked to be taken to dinner or let’s do dinner

12:40 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​Economy beliefs are easy to believe. Luxury beliefs are hard to believe.

12:40 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​They’re sitting at a nice restaurant pontificating about worldly things in a safe country. So I would have to say very Greek.

12:40 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​Beliefs imposed by religion are designed to make the believer feel safe and good.

12:41 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​The basic belief for all societies is marriage and family values if you want to keep your group in existence and apart from others.

12:42 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​All the five world religions are designed to protect its adherents from pessimism and fear of suffering and injustice.

12:43 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​A godless society is a declining society.

12:43 PM

@shoulderserf

​​Religion is a mode of control to keep people in line to make police work much easier than it would be otherwise. - paraphrase from Lewis’ A Pilgrim’s Regress

12:43 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​It gives me peace

12:44 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​I prefer Pilgrim’s progress

12:44 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​How do you know if your society is a godless society?

12:44 PM

@shoulderserf

​​Tune in to my Pilgrim’s Regress series to find out 😉

12:47 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​No luxury beliefs are having the luxury to believe nonsense and discuss it completely disconnected from it and from your position

12:48 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​I don’t see that as luxury beliefs at all

12:49 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​Or taught

12:55 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​Exactly. Proving once again, God is the decider.

12:57 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​Or God changes hearts

12:57 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​Pray for that if you’re sincere

12:59 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​In church, Theology is set. In specific churches. So no need to discuss it. In politics, most churches are policy driven not candidate driven.

1:02 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​The point of an open mind is to eventually close it around the truth

1:02 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​Otherwise, what’s the point?

1:02 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​Open open open

1:02 PM

@βρεττς

​#1

​To infinity

1:08 PM

@βρεττς

#1

​Being here to glorify God and know God is the highest. And “obeying “comes from the desire, sincerely out of love. Not a requirement.

1:12 PM

@βρεττς

​#1

​Delight in the law, not fear the law

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54:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins to discuss The Wall.

56:00  Luxury beliefs

58:00  My Dinner With Andre

59:00  Andre paid for the meal.

1:03:00  Are all religions luxury beliefs?

1:04:00  Godless life, godless death.

1:07:00  Truth and logic are basic beliefs. 

1:08:00  Marriage is an economy belief.

We suffer for our beliefs in a hierarchy of beliefs. 

1:10:00  "Trust the science."

Trust in the experts?

1:12:00  Having a belief system

Punishment for dissidents, heretics, subversives etc

1:14:00  Black Box Theory

1:15:00  The Trinity

1:16:00  The catechism

1:19:00  Heresy

1:20:00  "I said it first!"

1:21:00   Churches that don't discuss theology, political parties that don't discuss ideology.

Liberalism

1:22:00  Too much liberty leads to the Law of the Jungle.

Is believing that food comes from the grocery store a luxury belief?

1:23:00  Personality politics

1:24:00  Religion and  society

1:26:00  Who we should we trust?

1:27:00  People putting up with bad government according to the US Declaration of Independence

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. 

"It's not fair."

1:28:00  Religion: beliefs, values and principles

1:29:00  "The Commandments are not the highest point."

1:30:00  "Having the same thoughts of God"

1:31:00  "The highest thing"

Prophets are in direct communication with God.

1:32:00  If you believe in God, why wouldn't you obey His laws?

1:34:00  You judge the success of a group by its religion.

1:35:00  Obedience

1:36:00  Many are called, few are chosen.

1:37:00  Leadership

1:38:00  Accountability

1:40:00  Abdicating  monarchs

1:41:00  Law and empire

1:42:00  People who don't even notice when they have been cursed

1:43:00  The European Wars of Religion

Liberalism was a predictable reaction against the oppressive totalitarianism of absolute monarchy. 

1:44:00  Inquisition

1:45:00  Trial by ordeal

1:46:00  The First Amendment facilitates rational discourse and prevents people being criminalised for having the wrong opinions.

1:48:00  The Afterlife is a category of theoretical reward and punishment that the living do not see.