Talking to Josh Gonzalez about Penal Substitutionary Atonement

Penal Substitutionary Atonment =  human sacrifice/only son sacrifice

1:00  Incorrect Trinitarian understanding

3:00  Anselm

Nicene Creed

4:00  "our sake", not a debt

Origen

Montanism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montanism

6:00  Luther and Calvin on PSA

7:00  PSA

Pauline Epistles

8:00  "Harrowing of hell" ie Jesus went to hell

AI Overview

The Harrowing of Hell, or Christ's descent into the realm of the dead to free righteous souls, is primarily based on 1 Peter 3:18–20, which describes Jesus being "made alive in the spirit" and proclaiming to "spirits in prison". Other key, supporting, or interpreted verses include: 

Ephesians 4:9: Suggests a descent into the "lower parts of the earth".

Acts 2:24–31: Quotes Psalm 16:10, stating Christ was not abandoned to Hades.

1 Peter 4:6: Mentions the gospel was preached to those now dead.

Matthew 12:40: References the "heart of the earth" for three days.

Revelation 1:17–18: Mentions Jesus holds the "keys of Death and Hades". 

These passages are foundational to the belief that Jesus descended to the underworld between his crucifixion and resurrection. 

9:00  Josh is Catholic.

10:00  Latin West and the Orthodox East

11:00  American Christianity is dominated  by Evangelicals. 

Charism = grace

12:00  Predestination

The Fall of Man

14:00  Filioque

"Orthodox Catholic"

15:00  The Great Schism

16:00  Modernism accepted at Vatican II

Ransom

17:00  The Great Schism

19:00  Separatism

https://www.britannica.com/event/East-West-Schism-1054

22:00  Trinity

23:00  High church and low church

Soteriology, Christology and Trinitarian theology

24:00  "Eternally begetting the son"

25:00  Temporal order

26:00  God is sending forth His spirit.

27:00  Ontology and economia

28:00  "a divine  human person"

Jesus was sinless.

29:00  "a low view of creative matter"

30:00  God is transcendent.

God condescends to angels and humanity.

33:00   Inter-Trinitarian life

Ontological and economic claim

34:00  The Holy Spirit

36:00  Economia

37:00  Filioque and the monarchical Trinity

39:00  Multiplicity v Unitarian

God's wisdom

42:00  Jews, Muslims and Trinity

43:00  Attributes of God

45:00  Josh is a Catholic convert.

46:00  Josh's parents were Evangelical Christians.

47:00  Nestorianism

48:00  The nature of Jesus

49:00  Theosis is "participating in God's divinity".

50:00  Adoptionism and Nestorianism are first cousins. 

51:00  Tritheism and Quadtheism

52:00  Arian

53:00  Ephesus and Chalcedon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Chalcedon

55:00  The Inter-Trinitarian Life

56:00  The more aesthetic Catholic Church

57:00  Christianity is not "a religion of the book". 

58:00  The role of scripture is downgraded.

1:01:00  Judaism and Islam are religions of the book, but  not Christians. 

1:02:00  Protestants are pseudo-Christians. 

1:03:00  Evangelicalism is a multi-level marketing operation. 

1:04:00  Pentecostalism

1:05:000  Burning bosom Mormonism

1:07:00   Lutheranism and Presbyterianism have lesbian priests. But so does Reform Judaism!

1:08:00   Josh's  parents were glad Josh returned to church even if it was not theirs.

1:09:00  "We don't even believe in the same Jesus Christ."

1:10:00  Reinventing their theology

1:11:00  Clarifying theology

Mormonism

1:12:00  Sociological phenomenon

Polygamy

1:13:00  Mitt Romney was  born in New Mexico.

1:14:00  Mormonism are supposed to be in constant receipt of new revelation. 

1:14:00  Scientology and Mormonism are white American religions. 

1:16:00  Jehovah's Witnesses using Christianity for their pacifism

I fail to explain the difference between the ideal and the minimum moral standard

11:36 AM

@anselman3156

#2

​lol No I've not done a rando, but shared a lot in comments and chat. I am Anglo-Catholic (emphasis on Catholic-a funny creature!)

11:38 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#3

​It’s a challenge to stay slim at our age, that’s for sure.

11:38 AM

@anselman3156

​#2

​Nice. I am from MacGregor ancestry

11:39 AM

@Eolson-helper

#1

​Do you want to do a rando? I would like one with you if you’re interested.

11:39 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​When I think of Scotland, I think of the Highland Clearances demonstrating conclusively that race and Christianity cannot be your religion.

11:39 AM

@anselman3156

#2

​will to pursue the goal despite little failures

11:41 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@anselman3156 I suppose you hold on to your Anglo-Catholic identity because it is the religion of your ancestors whom you can trace back to before the English Reformation.

11:41 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#3

​Edinburgh, Stirling, Glencoe, Inverness, pitlochry, St. Andrews.

11:42 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​Christianity has utterly traumatised the European but Americans don't understand this because they haven't been made to learn European history.

11:42 AM

@anselman3156

​​The English Reformation was intended to be Catholic, but a bit botched by some overly rebellious Protestant tendencies. Terrible iconoclasm but good results too-English Bible n liturgy

11:43 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​The problem with Westerners is that they don't learn church history essential to understanding the disintegration of the Western mind.

11:44 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@anselman3156 What you just said makes no sense at all.

11:44 AM

@anselman3156

​​God wills to unremittingly pursue good-brings good ends out of human failures and botching!

11:44 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​Lots of brutality, wherever/whatever history you study.

11:44 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@anselman3156 The Abrahamic God you claim to worship forbade idolatry and blasphemy in His Commandments.

11:44 AM

@anselman3156

​​You don't understand the history Secular You don't understand Christianity

11:45 AM

@anselman3156

​​Tis cannot be properly discussed in a chat Secular. Quit the bigoted ignorant attacks

11:45 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 No other people were forced-fed the Trinity since the 4th century. If Jesus is not God, then there are certain implications for the afterlife of Christian ancestors.

11:46 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@anselman3156 What about the English Reformation don't I understand? It was inevitable.

11:47 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​I am not worried about these things, Claire. I believe all were created by and for God, and shall be saved, if they wish to be.

11:47 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@anselman3156 Did I say anything untrue or illogical? Anglo-Catholics are just a remnant tolerated by the government because they are so quaint and ancient.

11:48 AM

@anselman3156

​​God was involved in the English Reformation and brought good out of it but there was also human error that was eventually corrected

11:48 AM

@anselman3156

​​You are silly in your bigotry Secular

11:48 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 God if He exists values obedience and those who will be saved are those who obey His laws.

11:49 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@anselman3156 What have I said that is untrue or illogical?

11:49 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@anselman3156 What human error are you referring to?

11:49 AM

@chrishoward8473

​​@OfficialSecularKoranism No no so much no.

11:49 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​God of justice only, Claire? No room for mercy?

11:50 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 Most people do not even understand the nature of the divine bargain offered to Man from God.

11:50 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 Justice is mercy where appropriate.

11:51 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@chrishoward8473 I don't know what you are saying no to.

11:51 AM

@anselman3156

​​I only have a dumb phone for calls and texts No "smart"

11:51 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@ArtisanArtifacts Are you Muslim?

11:51 AM

@ethan.caughey

​​AA, a new pseudonym eh? I miss the robber baron days.

11:52 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​Artisan, what is your background? Where do you live and why are you so obsessed about colonialism?

11:52 AM

@anselman3156

​​Bishop Robber Barron? ;)

11:52 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@ArtisanArtifacts Christianity and Liberalism reminds me of the white man giving blankets infected by smallpox to the Native American.

11:53 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​AA, what do you make of the native people who claim Christ visited their civilizations long before the White Man came?

11:54 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​I can't bear to see the stupid face of Andrew Ternet. While Europeans have the excuse of being force-fed Christianity since the 4th century, he as a Chinese man has no such excuse.

11:54 AM

@anselman3156

​​What gets into the minds of people who want o spend their time coming to Christians to shout abuse at them?

11:55 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​I’m just trying to live well within the constraints of my agency

11:55 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@anselman3156 I am just obeying 18:4 of the Koran for hypocrites calling themselves Muslims still too afraid of their Christian overlords to obey it.

11:56 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 All of us have moral agency and free will. Some of us will never think of using it though!

11:56 AM

@anselman3156

​​and distracting from a good amicable conversation

11:57 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@anselman3156 You can listen to the root beer conversation and stop interacting with me then.

11:57 AM

@anselman3156

​​St Francis

11:58 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. We know the good but choose the evil.

11:59 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​Some days it is nice to just chat about small daily things.

12:00 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​The Seven Deadly Sins are actually necessary for human survival. When does a good appetite become gluttony? When does leisure become sloth? Religion regulates this.

12:02 PM

@anselman3156

​​If I couldve mastered guitar, I'd have liked to do street busking!

12:03 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​Those who disdain to be led by the best available guide to humanity are destined to be oppressed by their corrupt and incompetent ruling classes.

12:03 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​I might take AA more seriously if he/she revealed more about himself. As it is, I just see a troll who does not use their real name, makes everything about colonialism and then deletes their comments

12:03 PM

@ethan.caughey

​​Alright Claire, who is the best available guide?

12:04 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 I think he is @brentbowling blocked by PVK using another account.

12:04 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​Yet I know there is a human in there somewhere.

12:04 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@ethan.caughey There are only two divine revelations. Reasonable people would choose the one that does not have 36 capital offences and which supports the First Amendment.

12:05 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​I know, Claire, but still that doesn’t tell us anything about the person.

12:05 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 A traumataised academic on the spectrum.

12:06 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​😊. Yes. Clearly.

12:06 PM

@anselman3156

​​"My wife went to the Caribbean" "Jamaica?" " No she went of her own accord!"

12:06 PM

@ethan.caughey

​​What are the two divine revelations?

12:06 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 He keeps calling PVK racist, which I think is unfair.

12:06 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​I am bracing for the day Claire calls out my B.S. it will be cutting but spot on….

12:07 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@ethan.caughey The Torah and the Koran are believed to be the directly revealed Word of God.

12:07 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​I agree, Claire, a lot of what he says is just poor faith criticism.

12:07 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 But I like you and think you are nice and normal!

12:07 PM

@anselman3156

​​"Who was that lady I saw you with last night?" "That was no lady, that was my wife"

12:08 PM

@ethan.caughey

​​I’m all in on Torah. Look how much we agree on.

12:08 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​That made my day, Claire. Thank you. ❤

12:09 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 Honest and reasonable people are like gold dust.

12:09 PM

@teestrypzSOG

​​TLC community is not alt-right?

12:09 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​Olson, I sometimes worry about that a little bit too, I must confess. Present company excluded.

12:10 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@ethan.caughey Will you ever read the Koran?

12:10 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​Tayo, do you think TLC is alt-right, or alt-right adjacent?

12:10 PM

@ethan.caughey

​​I studied Islam in college twice. (But I only know a little.)

12:10 PM

@teestrypzSOG

#1

​To rule or not to rule is not the question?

12:10 PM

@anselman3156

​​Moral law has to be internalized, and the Spirit of Christ helps us with that.

12:11 PM

@teestrypzSOG

#1

​I think TLC is definitely alt-right adjacent, but that could just be cuz I’m a woke libtard

12:11 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​St. Paul tells us it (moral law) is written on our ❤

12:11 PM

@anselman3156

​​Jesus pointed to the heart, and transforms it in those who believe on him

12:12 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​What do you mean, merger code?

12:13 PM

@ethan.caughey

​​Anything in the middle is alt-right adjacent, woke adjacent, liberal adjacent, conservative adjacent, etc. There’s always a neighbor.

12:13 PM

@anselman3156

​​First Epistle of St John. Christians have forgiveness for the past and ability to keep free from sin by abiding in Christ

12:14 PM

@anselman3156

​​If you LOVE me, keep te commandments, says the Saviour. Abide in me.

12:14 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​AA, one person’s 🐶😗 is another’s delusional paranoia.

12:14 PM

@anselman3156

​​The key to living a good life is abiding in Christ

12:15 PM

@teestrypzSOG

​#1

​In Christ alone my hope

12:16 PM

@anselman3156

​​Christian do have success in overcoming sinful inclinations. Perseverance is required to gain complete victory.

12:17 PM

@anselman3156

​​A distinction must be made between sin (which the Christian can avoid) and mental and physical limitations and imperfections

12:18 PM

@teestrypzSOG

#1

​Mind you, Claire doesn’t believe in any God 😂

12:19 PM

@anselman3156

​​We can keep the 10 commandments out of love for Christ, but we can misunderstand some things or be impaired from doing some things we'd like to do by our imperfections

12:20 PM

@UpCycleClub

​​Isn’t there something pure about a newborn baby?

12:20 PM

@anselman3156

​​I recommend reading John Wesley on Christian Perfection. I do readings from it on my channel

12:21 PM

@anselman3156

​​Yes newborn babies are fresh from heaven

12:21 PM

@anselman3156

​​Jesus pointed to infants as largely uncorrupted by the world

12:22 PM

@UpCycleClub

​​Exactly

12:23 PM

@anselman3156

​​Christian should not have a false modesty that denies the victory they do achieve in this life

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40:00  The rules

41:00  Behaviour modification

42:00  Redemption and rehabilitation is in theory possible.

43:00  Nihilism

CBT

44:00  Psychotherapy: Id, Ego and Superego

45:00  Serenity

46:00  We must make the distinction between the minimum moral standard and the ideal, the Lowest Common Denominator and the Highest Common Factor. 

48:00  God is not just you with superpowers.

49:00  God gives us the rope we keep asking for to hang ourselves with.

50:00  The correct belief and correct obedience to the correct rules

51:00  Heaven would be exclusive and devoid of Trinitarian Christians. 

52:00  The correct clothes for the correct occasion 

Confused idolatrous Christians praying to Jesus the executed and deceased blasphemer to stop war and violence

5:00  How to navigate these waters? Inform yourself about the godliness of US foreign policy.  

8:00 You have to pray to the correct deity. Jews and Muslims reject the divinity of Jesus who think Christians are guilty of the unforgivable sin of associating partners with God.  

12:00  What do you understand about US foreign policy? Do you even wish to understand it?  

18:00  Prayers have to be directed to the correct deity. Jews and Muslims do not think Jesus is divine even if you think you met Jesus.  

22:00  MARK PARKER joins. 

23:00  CK/Luke Thompson stream mentioned.

24:00  Ethan Caughey

26:00  RC says the Luke Thompson/CK stream  it was worth listening to.  

27:00  Iran

28:00  POTUS did not have Congressional consent to start bombing Iran. 

29:00  Angelic Muslim in grocery store

31:00  No point praying to a deceased blasphemer.  

33:00  RC thinks praying to Jesus is the solution.  

37:00  Voted for Obama because he was a black slave. 

45:00  Wars are a product of a corrupt heart. 

50:00  RC says both he and Mark Parker are saints. 

1:07:00  "Two centuries of a certain kind of Christianity"

1:09:00  MARK joins.

1:12:00  American Christianity

1:13:00  Great Awakening

1:14:00  Charles Finney, James Garfield, Alexander Campbell

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Grandison_Finney

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_James_A._Garfield

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Campbell_(minister)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restoration_Movement

1:18:00  Sex cult

1:24:00  Witchcraft

1:25:00  The Bible and Koran forbid sorcery. 

1:26:00  The Book of Romans

1:31:00  Islam

1:32:00  Hate speech

AI overview:

Sorcery, witchcraft, and related practices are forbidden by law in several countries, with penalties ranging from fines and imprisonment to capital punishment. While in many parts of the world, such beliefs are considered superstitious or private matters, some nations maintain strict legal prohibitions against them. 

Countries with Active Legal Prohibitions

Saudi Arabia: Witchcraft and sorcery are strictly prohibited under Islamic law and can be punishable by death. Saudi authorities have a dedicated "Anti-Witchcraft Unit" and have executed individuals for these "crimes" as recently as 2014.

Cameroon: The penal code (Article 251) provides for prison sentences of two to 10 years for using witchcraft, and this can be extended to life in prison if the witchcraft results in death.

Tanzania: The Witchcraft Act of 2002 prohibits witchcraft, particularly when it involves harm or fraudulent practices.

Other Countries: Laws specifically banning "black magic," "supernatural powers," or "witchcraft" exist in Afghanistan, Gambia, Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, Benin, Côte d'Ivoire, and Libya.

Pakistan: In January 2026, the senate passed a law banning "black magic". 

Contextual Distinctions

Laws against witchcraft often target different aspects:

Practice: Actively casting spells or using magic to cause harm is illegal in countries like Saudi Arabia and Cameroon.

Accusation/Witch Hunting: In some places, it is not the practice of magic that is illegal, but rather accusing someone of being a witch, as seen in parts of India (e.g., Jharkhand) and some African nations.

Fraud: In several jurisdictions, including parts of the US (e.g., New York, North Carolina), fortune-telling for money is illegal, often categorized under fraud rather than anti-sorcery laws. 

Recent Legal Changes

Canada: Repealed its "Witchcraft Act" (section 365 of the Criminal Code, which targeted fraudulent witchery) in 2018.

Russia: While historically harsh, legal actions against sorcery were rebranded as fraud by the late 18th century.

Human Rights Concern

The UN OHCHR has highlighted that accusations of witchcraft lead to severe human rights violations, including murder and torture, often targeting vulnerable groups like the elderly, children, and persons with albinism. 

1:35:00  Trial by ordeal

1:45:00  Aquinas

Discussing the TLC, Christian identity, civil disagreement and history with Luke Thompson

Difference in a live stream and a recorded conversation

2:00  YouTuber or political activist?

Social club, debating society or political party?

4:00  Group therapy

5:00  TLC

National and political

6:00  Religion and culture

7:00  How often do we think of the meaning of life?

9:00  Our place in the pecking order

10:00  Information 

11:00  Christianity is merely a cultural affiliation. 

12:00  Who has the right to identify as Christian?

13:00  Infant baptism

Anabaptists

14:00  Mikveh

John the Baptist

15:00  TLC markers

17:00  Is America a Christian Nation?

18:00  Joining a gang

19:00  Venn diagram of overlapping circles

21:00  Being a good listener

22:00  Complaining about the government is a universal practice. 

23:00  How do we know that we believe what we claim to believe?

24:00  David Dark, philosopher and theologian

25:00  Bearing witness

26:00  Comparative religion

The definition of true knowledge

27:00  Participation

28:00  Propositional, procedural, perspectival and participatory

29:00  Common areas of agreement

31:00  First principles

33:00  Atheists see the utility of religion. 

Teleology

34:00  Religion is mind and behavioural control.

Secular political ideologies are also belief systems with values and therefore religions. 

36:00  Are Luke and I friends?

37:00  TLC

Proper knowledge

38:00  Collective and individual punishment pertains to the moral, imperial and religious.

40:00  God-Man relationship

41:00  Our uniqueness

42:00  Twins Brian and Brad do not agree.

43:00  Pluribus

44:00  American Primeval

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_Massacre

46:00  The Abrahamic religions are imperial religions.

47:00  Constantine the Great hoped Christianity would stabilise his empire.

50:00  Council of Nicaea

The First Seven Ecumenical Councils

51:00  Lady Deacons

52:00  Orthodox Christianity and Catholicism

53:00  

AI Overview

Cataphatic (positive) theology defines God by what He is (e.g., God is love), using images and concepts to describe the Divine. Apophatic (negative) theology argues God is beyond human comprehension, defining Him by what He is not (e.g., God is not finite), aiming to experience the transcendent. Both are complementary approaches to understanding the Divine.

54:00  The Third Principles of Judaism

56:00  The theological arms race between Jews and Muslims

57:00  Idolatry

58:00  The Founding Fathers were Unitarian. 

59:00  Cuius regio, euius religio

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuius_regio,_eius_religio

1:00:00  Jews and Christians had terrible kings. The last 250 years of Western history has been a succession of republican revolutions that ended Christendom in 1918.  

Christianity was the religion that defended the divine right of kings. 

AI Overview

Christianity was fundamentally used to defend the divine right of kings, a doctrine asserting monarchs derived their absolute authority directly from God, not from their subjects or the Church. Rooted in biblical narratives of kings anointed by prophets (e.g., Samuel, David), it required total obedience, viewing rebellion as a sin against God. 

Key Aspects of the Christian Defense of Divine Right:

Biblical Justification: Rulers often cited Romans 13, which calls for obedience to governing authorities as they are instituted by God.

Theological Support: The concept was used by monarchs in early modern Europe (16th-17th centuries), such as James I of England and Louis XIV, to consolidate power, arguing they were only answerable to God.

"God's Mandate": The theory posits that the king is God's anointed representative on Earth, essentially placing him above all earthly institutions.

Evolution of the Doctrine: While it supported the monarchy, it originally allowed the Church to sanction or excommunicate kings who failed to protect religious interests, though it later shifted to justify pure absolutism. 

While strongly rooted in Christian tradition, the doctrine was contested, with some theologians arguing for limited, rather than absolute, authority.

 1:01:00  The Roman Conquest of Britain

1:02:00  Celtic Christianity

AI Overview

A distinct form of Celtic Christianity existed in Britain, particularly flourishing from the 5th to the 7th centuries in Wales, Scotland, Cornwall, and Ireland. It developed as an early form of Christianity with unique traditions, such as a monastic focus, different tonsures, and a divergent calculation for Easter, often operating independently of Rome. 

Key Aspects of Celtic Christianity in Britain:

Origins: Rooted in early Roman Britain, it persisted in the west and north after Anglo-Saxon pagan invasions suppressed Christianity in many parts of England.

Monasticism: The church was organized around monasteries rather than strict Roman diocesan structures, with abbots often holding more authority than bishops.

Distinct Features: Key figures like St. Columba (Iona) helped spread this tradition. It was characterized by a deep love for nature, strict asceticism, a focus on personal "soul friends" (anamchara), and unique art styles.

Cultural Blend: It was a unique mix of indigenous Celtic customs and Christian faith.

Synod of Whitby (664 AD): The distinct traditions, particularly the date of Easter, led to conflicts with the Roman Church, resulting in the Synod of Whitby where most of Britain moved towards Roman, rather than Celtic, practices. 

Though never a completely uniform church, it was a distinct, culturally integrated form of Christianity that played a major role in the evangelization of the British Isles. 

1:02:00  The Post Revolutionary French Calendar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Republican_calendar

1:04:00  Liberalism was a reaction against absolute monarchy.

1:05:00  MATT C joins to remind me of a conversation I had with him on PVK's channel two years ago on Secular Koranism. 

1:06:00  Liberalism is now global and imperial. 

1:08:00  American imperialism

1:09:00  Knowledge of geopolitics

Truth is the opinion of the powerful. 

1:10:00  The next generation is equipped with an array of weapon words supplied by educational institutions to shut up the previous generation when they express dissenting views. 

1:11:00  Professor Sam Richards

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9785419/Penn-State-professor-pulls-average-white-guys-lecture-theater-demonstrate-privilege.html

1:13:00  Nick Fuentes

1:16:00  Our duty to ourselves online

1:17:00  I am impartial, not partisan. 

1:18:00  Imperial Reform

1:19:00  The irony of America

1:20:00  Who can be trusted?

1:21:00  The dangers of a standing army the Founding Fathers foresaw

1:22:00  Sea empires are more reckless than land empires.

1:23:00  Christian Nationalism

1:25:00  Legislation

Universal rules

1:26:00  Why can't our ruling classes give a better impression of not being evil, stupid or mad?

1:27:00  The supra-national loyalties of the European ruling classes

1:28:00  Trump is as capricious as a woman. 

1:29:00  America is a self-critical empire.

1:30:00  The First Amendment is the American contribution to civilised political discourse. 

Who's a pretty politician then?

20:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins to discuss Hannah Spencer, Green Party MP

24:00  Marketplace of ideas

Marjorie Taylor Greene

25:00  Female version of Rand Paul

27:00  AOC

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez

The shallow cult of youth and beauty

28:00  Politics should be for smart and ugly people, and showbiz for dumb and beautiful people.

29:00  Smiling and lying beautiful people

Candace Owens

32:00  Feminine excuses

Hillary Clinton and Margaret Thatcher

33:00  Dress down Fridays

34:00  Gentleman Prefer Blondes

37:00  Men don't like smart women.

39:00  PVK on Secular Koranism

Deleted comments

40:00  Three levels of censorship

43:00  AI using up too much electricity

45:00  Honesty, reasonableness and principles

"Religion" Does Not Mean What You Think It Means

2:00   "All of life is religious/religion."

3:00  Secularism is a religion. 

5:00  Islamic history

7:00  Secular Koranism

8:00  The meaning of religion

18:00  "Past trauma from ecclesiastical powers doing things we didn't like" is exactly it!

23:00  Christian Nationalism

24:00  Mark Carney

25:00  Canadian identity v American identity

26:00  Canadian culture

27:00  Are we imperialists or nationalists?

"I don't have a religion."

28:00  Structures, beliefs, institutions

29:00  Patriarchy is the sacred social order.

32:00  God No 1 and God No 2

33:00  Sacred

Sharia

34:00  The social and the sacred

35:00  A stable social order can only be based on the eternal and universal laws of God.

38:00  President Trump's religion is not Christianity!

55:00  America is the off-ramp for British Christianity.. 

Christianity as a curate's egg, the wisdom of prophets and prostitutes, the difference between justice and social justice

3:00  Must a Christian be Trinitarian? If not, isn't he considered lower status or even a heretic to Trinitarians? And we know what Trinitarians would do to heretics when Europeans took Christianity seriously enough to kill each other over wrongthink eg Michael Servetus in the Swiss Republic, the Albigensian Crusades and of course the Wars of the Reformation which was about whether European monarchs should submit to the Pope.

4:00  To be a Cultural Christian is to be an atheist who likes the smells and bells of traditional Christianity and its stories and scripture, but not literally believe that Jesus is God or that the Abrahamic God exists to punish evil and reward good in this life or the next. Since Christianity is a belief system, it would help if people claiming to be Christian believed in what makes Christianity Christian ie the Trinity, but it is to be doubted that people claiming to be Christian even believe  in the afterlife or that God exists to punish anyone for anything. 

In America where the church  is separated from the state, Christianity is but a religion of social clubs with its red church/blue church distinctions that reflect its class and political divisions. 

The Koran warns against sectarianism in quran.com/6/159 echoed in George Washington's farewell speech warning Americans against political parties. 

https://www.americanmajority.org/blog-2/why-was-george-washington-opposed-to-political-parties/

6:00  Church history should be  part of the history curriculum of Western schoolchildren. The only way for Westerners to understand themselves is to understand their own history. Sadly for most Westerners, church history is not routinely taught to Western schoolchildren because it would only trigger in them rage and self-loathing at the way their Christian ancestors were treated by their absolute monarchs. The global power of the English language has been keeping the anachronistic British monarchy around way past its sell-by date. Sadly for most Westerners, the inclination towards idolatry has idolised American culture and its idols spreading American paganism globally. The TV franchise of Idol is a creation of the Anglo-American Empire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idol_(franchise)

11:00  Isn't Christianity the curate's egg?

12:00  Most people don't think things through properly and behave like cattle.  Does that mean no one should be theologians as well as moral and political philosophers?

14:00  Martin Shaw is a story teller which is great if you are a child.

16:00  Churches are community centres and social clubs. Even  atheists need this facility from time to time. 

24:00  CK

24:00  If we believe in the Abrahamic God who gave us Commandments to obey, why aren't we obeying them in the law of our land?

28:00  CLAIRE KHAW mentioned.

33:00  Aren't adherents of the Abrahamic religions entitled to believe *all* their prophets are wise? If they cannot see the wisdom of their prophet, perhaps they should think further!  

Islam regards Adam as prophet which might provoke a chorus of questions questioning Muslim wisdom since he was responsible for the Fall of Man and we are still unsure who is more to blame - Eve who was tempted by the serpent or Adam who was so easily led by his rib.    

Anyone who has heard of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs would know that given enough time and opportunity, we would all want to become God. Indeed, Orthodox Christianity even promotes the idea of Theosis - humans becoming God and Mormons believe that they will all be given a planet to be the ruling deity over in their afterlife. 

Muslims consider Adam to be the first Muslim prophet because he was a man who acknowledged the existence of God which, let's face it, not everyone does. 

You don't have to be morally perfect to a prophet, you just need to make some important about theology, morality, politics and religion.  

33:30  Claire Khaw was making the point that Job was wise to remain faithful to God and not curse God and die, as his wife urged him to. 

She also made the point that not all suffering is punishment for sin, some of our suffering is a trial to test us to see if we deserve something better than what we already have. 

Looked at rationally, Job might prefer to have his own Book in the Old Testament - which is surely an honour - rather than to live an uneventful life of health, wealth and uninterrupted happiness. 

As for whether it was wise for the unmarried mother who was a graduate of Cornell to become a prostitute, it has to be borne in mind that the Abrahamic God who forbade a whole bunch of things never forbade prostitution nor slavery. In fact, God made the rather eloquent point in the Book of Jeremiah that the status of Jews as His Chosen People and his bride does not even depend on their behaviour. Though they may behave like prostitutes selling themselves to passers by under shady trees, God will take them back, because their role is to make gentile atheists wonder about the purpose of Jews and whether God exists to protect them from extinction.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Jeremiah

Is it wise to be a prostitute? The story of Rahab is one of redemption. Though she might have been a prostitute in Jericho, she ended up marrying a prophet of God. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahab

36:00  Science and philosophy are two different branches of knowledge.

38:00   Noahide laws

39:00  Transgenderism is nothing new. Jewish men are supposed to thank God every day that they were not born either women or gentile. This suggests that there must have been a time when there were enough Jewish men who thought staying home, cooking and cleaning and looking after the children might be something they could get used to compared to the horrible jobs they had to do as men was becoming a problem. Many of them probably did want to assimilate into cool Christian culture when Christians started being nicer to Jews after Europeans started moving away from Christianity with their new secular religions of Liberalism, Nationalism and Communism.

44:00  The political will is not there to implement theocracy which is a triggering word heretical to politicians still professing to be liberal, the liberal order and liberal values! As you would expect, ordinary people are not going to be seen to be promoting what is heretical to the current political orthodoxy without suffering loss of status, reputation or even income and employment. Claire Khaw may be leading  the way, but when she looks behind, no one is following her. 

44:30  Claire Khaw is not telling American Christians to not say certain words and phrases that could be interpreted as idolatry by Jews and Muslims eg speaking of Jesus in the present tense or even proposing that your churches which are your social clubs should be closed down because they are places of idolatry. 

She is just saying that going to church on Sunday or a different church this Sunday is displacement therapy when Americans should already know that the Founding Fathers have thoughtfully separated the church from their state! Jews saying to the American ruling class that sodomites and Sabbath-breakers should be stoned would get short shrift. Ditto Muslims in Nevada wanting to close down its casinos. 

The only way the law can be changed is through political action ie through legislation. There is a legal system ie Secular Koranism that uncompromisingly supports the First Amendment that Muslims will be falling over themselves to say is neither Islam nor sharia because I am neither Muslim nor an acknowledged authority as an Islamic scholar. I can however make my case understandable, plausible and principled as a political ideology that would restore patriarchy in the West as well as restore to American husbands their First Amendment rights that they fear to assert for fear of upsetting their wife.

48:00  I have a different interpretation of this verse which I would be happy to explain to you and any female thinking of becoming a prostitute. A concubine in Ancient China has rights because her children will be legitimate, unlike that of a prostitute.  A  Muslim man can have up to four wives who may be Jewesses, Christian women and Muslim women of any race. 

Slave girls you acquire in your wars of imperial conquest can be offered marriage or an opportunity to work in licensed brothels if they seek to attain manumission quicker as prostitutes  than other forms of work.  

If you want to have sex with your slave girl whom you do not wish to marry but who is now working in your licensed brothel,  you can still have sex with her at the going rate which will go towards her manumission.

49:00  Honest, reasonable and principled men and women should have no major areas of disagreement on matters of sexual morality - the basis of all other kinds of morality.

54:00  I would argue that concubines is an unIslamic idea. You either have wives up to a max of four or you make do with prostitutes if you want a different female sex partner to the spouse or spouses you already have. 

56:00   There are exceptions to every rule, as every lawyer would confirm. 

1:01:00  What is the difference between justice and social justice?

1:06:00  Christianity is still supposed to be the most powerful religion in the world because of the hegemonic nature of Western imperialism.

1:08:00  The Trinity works because the most powerful denominations in Christianity are the denominations representing the most powerful empires. The Anglo-American world empire identifies itself as Protestant.