Thursday, 6 August 2026

Talking to @HelpfulAhmadi about free/automatic DNA tests for husbands when their wife has a child



E Michael Jones on whether Americans deserve the government they get

1:00  John Adams

2:00  Athenians practised direct democracy excluding slaves and women with no secret ballot

3:00  Most people are stupid.

4:00  Experts

5:00  Shura

6:00  Democracy

Abdul El-Sayed

7:00  Trust in the government and the system

8:00  Thomas Massie

9:00  False narratives

Electronic voting

10:00  Trump

George Washington's farewell speech

11:00  People hate solutions

The Founding Fathers read Edward Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.

AI Overview                 

In The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Edward Gibbon argued that Christianity contributed to Rome's fall by replacing traditional civic virtue with otherworldly asceticism, draining state resources into the church, and causing crippling internal religious disputes that undermined the empire's stability.

Shift from Civic Virtue to Passivity
Otherworldly focus: Christianity taught people to look forward to heaven instead of serving the earthly state.

Loss of military spirit: The religion preached patience and peace, which discouraged active public duty and weakened the Roman army.

Flight from society: Many potential leaders and energetic citizens retreated into monasteries rather than engaging in government or defense.

Economic and Resource Drain
Wealth diverted: Money and property that previously funded public works and military defense went instead to build churches and support the clergy.

Manpower loss: Monks, priests, and church officials were exempt from taxes and military service, reducing the active pool of productive citizens and soldiers.

Internal Division and Intolerance
Religious conflict: Theological debates and bitter feuds between different Christian sects tore apart the internal unity of the empire.

Persecution of pagans: The intolerance of the official church replaced the flexible, inclusive pagan traditions of early Rome with rigid orthodoxy and internal policing.

12:00  Demographics is destiny.

14:00  Go forth and multiply.
15:00  Rome eventually had to hire mercenaries
16:00  The Founding Fathers must have thought that the Wars of the Reformation was a huge waste of time resulting in no improvement for Europeans. 
17:00  The First Amendment
18:00  Declaration of Independence
19:00  Nature's God is Spinoza's God.
20:00  Ethical monotheist > monotheist
21:00  Spinoza was excommunicated for his pantheism. 
22:00  Amazement and awe
25:00  Spinoza 

AI Overview                 

"Nature's God" is deeply connected to Baruch Spinoza's concept of God, though the phrase often appears in Enlightenment deism rather than strictly as Spinoza's own terminology. Spinoza famously argued that God and the physical universe are the exact same entity—expressed through his Latin formula Deus sive Natura ("God or Nature").

Core Similarities
Identical to Reality: Both concepts reject a creator who lives outside the universe. God is the natural order and fabric of existence. 
No Human Interventions: Spinoza's God and Nature's God do not perform miracles, listen to prayers, or change the rules of the physical world for human benefit.

Impersonal Order: Divinity is seen as an objective, rational system of physical and mathematical laws rather than a person with emotions, wrath, or mercy.

Key Differences in Context
Spinoza's Pantheism: Spinoza viewed God as an infinite substance with infinite attributes, where everything in existence is a direct, necessary mode of God.

Enlightenment "Nature's God": Phrases like "Nature's God" (used in texts like the American Declaration of Independence) were often used by Deists. Deists usually believed God created the universe and set it running like a clock before stepping back, maintaining a separation between the creator and the created mechanism that Spinoza's strict pantheism explicitly denied.
 
26:00  God just thought we might appreciate being alive and created the Universe just for us?
28:00  We were endowed with reason and the ability to conceive of God.. 
29:00  Gladiator
30:00  The meaning of "epic"
32:00  Belief in God would have an effect on our view of the future.
33:00  Romantic love
34:00  Unrequited love and agape
35:00  Serial killers love to kill people.
Romantic love 
Romeo and Juliet
37:00  Sacrificial love

Men holding each other's hands in the street

38:00  Romantic love is a way of maxing out. 
40:00  The Post Wedding Brunch
43:00  Promiscuous people are most seduced by the idea of romance.
44:00  Promiscuity or being an incel
45:00  The Angriest Men in Brooklyn
48:00  Free DNA test for husbands

51:00  One in 25 fathers is not biological parent - study

52:00  Paternity fraud

57:00  America has more a culture of having  DNA tests.
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On hypocrisy


AI Overview

The Old Testament strongly addresses the concept of hypocrisy, though the specific English word "hypocrite" rarely appears in older translations because the underlying Hebrew terms carry broader meanings like "godless," "profane," or "deceitful". The core theme—outward religious performance that lacks internal sincerity—is a frequent target of the prophets.

Key Old Testament Examples
Insincere Worship: In Isaiah 29:13, God condemns people who honor Him with their lips while their hearts are far away, a passage later quoted by Jesus.

Empty Rituals: The book of Isaiah 1:11-17 rejects meaningless religious assemblies and sacrifices from hands stained with injustice.

False Piety and Deceit: Passages like Job 8:13 warn that the hope of the "godless" or hypocritical person will perish.

Hiding Intentions: Psalm 26:4 speaks against associating with those who hide their true, false motives

AI Overview

The New Testament mentions hypocrisy explicitly. The Greek noun for hypocrisy (hypokrisis) and the noun for a hypocrite (hypokritēs) appear multiple times in the Gospels and other books.

Key Details
Greek Origin: The words come from hypokritēs, which meant a stage actor or someone wearing a mask.

Frequency: Forms of the word "hypocrite" or "hypocrisy" appear roughly 20 times in the New Testament, mostly used by Jesus to address religious leaders.

Famous Examples:

Jesus warns against practicing righteousness to be seen by others, such as when giving to the needy or praying (Matthew 6:2, 6:5).He explicitly uses the label in passages like Matthew 23:28, stating that religious teachers appear righteous on the outside but are "full of hypocrisy and wickedness" inside.

Paul and Peter address related behaviors, and passages like Romans 12:9 call for love to be "without hypocrisy"

12:18 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​It is actually quite easy to expose hypocrites.

12:19 PM
@OOOTLAM
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​Olson would receive a better answer if he actually has a proper conversation with me.

12:24 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​In the Quran, hypocrisy (nifaq) is defined as a state of discord between a person's outward display and their inner reality.

12:25 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​A hypocrite (munafiq) verbally claims faith in God and joins the Muslim community, but inwardly conceals disbelief, doubt, or opposition.

12:25 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​The Quran treats hypocrisy not just as a social lie, but as a severe spiritual disease of the heart.

12:26 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Hypocrites declare "We testify that you are the Messenger of Allah," God knows they are liars because their hearts do not match their words.

12:27 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Two-Faced Behavior: They shift loyalties depending on who they are with. When they meet believers, they claim to be believers, but when they retreat to their own allies, they mock the faithful.

12:27 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Lazy Worship: When they stand for ritual prayer (Salah), they do so sluggishly and only to be seen and praised by people, remembering God very little.

12:28 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
They use oaths as a shield to hide their actions and obstruct others from the path of truth.

12:28 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Internal Doubt and Cynicism: They look with skepticism at divine revelations, expecting the worst and feeling uneasy when good comes to the believers.

12:29 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​The Quran places major hypocrisy (nifaq al-akbar) in opposition to true faith (eeman).

12:29 PM
@chrishoward8473
​​@OSK is it hypocritical for an agnostic to take a position of doubt?

12:30 PM
@chrishoward8473
​​Woudn't it be more honest to be an honest agnostic?

12:30 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​Because they deliberately deceive while pretending to belong to the community, the Quran warns that hypocrites face the lowest depths of the Hellfire, as their outward profession of faith cannot protect them from what their hearts conceal.

12:31 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@chrishoward8473 I am firm in my agnosticism!

12:32 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​My position is that whether or not we believe in God, we have to obey the law of the land. But wouldn't it be so much better if people claiming to believe in God actually obeyed His laws?

12:33 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​To be agnostic is to constantly entertain the idea that God might exist to reward good and punish evil, which is a better state of mind than being convinced He does not exist, surely?
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Wednesday, 5 August 2026

Spirituality without rules is stupid


Chabad
Forward Magazine
3:00  Jonathan Sacks
St Mary's Church of England Primary School
6:00  My serendipitous appearance on Chris Howard
8:00  Spirituality
10:00  Sexual offences
11:00  Does George Washington's farewell speech have Koranic echoes?
14:00  Spirituality is the good feeling you get when you think you are following the rules correctly. 
16:00  The line in the middle of the road
17:00  Hasidim and Haredim
18:00  Kabbalah
19:00  Rabbi Mizrachi on Kabbalah for 40+ year old Jews
20:00  Chabadniks
22:00  Depressives wanting the world to end
23:00  Hurrying the Messiah
24:00  IDF
25:00  Observant Jews
26:00  Jews tricked into fighting and dying for American imperial interests.
27:00  Special relationship with Israel
28:00  The cognitive dissoance of the Trinity
30:00  Christians are not worshiping God.
31:00  Noahide laws
32:00  The Christian narrative was imposed.
33:00  The Wars of the Reformation
Interpret the Koran in your own way.
34:00  Sunni-Shia divide
35:00  The Trinity
36:00  Heretic burning is a Christian practice.
37:00  Edward Gibbon's History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
38:00  God would be absolutely logical and moral.
39:00  It is logical to be moral if we are good people. 
40:00  Defamation in the UK and the US
43:00  Two divine revelations
45:00  Talking therapy
46:00  Jews have been corrupted by gentiles.
47:00  Defining idolatry
48:00  Becoming Noahides
49:00  Georgia
53:00  Hatred of me
55:00  Zionism
57:00  Declaration of Independence
59:00  SCOTUS to identify, list and number the Commandments of Allah
1:01:00  Islam is more in conformity with the Noahide laws. 

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What is religion for?


Seneca on religion

1:00  The utility of religion
2:00  Cultural Christian
3:00  When you stop burning heretics at the stake, the American Revolution breaks out swiftly followed  by the French Revolution.
4:00  Mortal sins for Jews, Christians and Muslims
5:00  Christians don't care  that idolatry is a mortal sin.. 
6:00  Christianity is part of Western identity.
7:00  Isn't it presumptuous to become God?
8:00  Cultural revulsion of Christians towards brown people who are Muslim.
9:00  Tayo's school days when the only one in his school who actually believed in God was a Muslim
10:00  The nature and purpose of religion: beliefs, values and principles
11:00  Prophets are process servers of God.

Jesus was sent  as a divine practical joke played on idolaters who worship an executed blasphemer and to expose hypocrites claiming to be Jews and Muslims.

13:00  Middle classes v White Nationalists
15:00  US foreign policy

How is Christianity the best religion?

16:00  Codified principles

18:00  Easy to believe in God supported by the Declaration of Independence

19:00  Confirmed bachelor

20:00  The Meaning Crisis is a Matriarchy Crisis, the Matriarchy Crisis is a Feminism Crisis, the Feminism Crisis is an Atheism Crisis, the Atheism Crisis is a Narcissism Crisis which came from Liberalism - a rejection of Christianity. 

21:00  Alcoholism

22:00  The 36 capital offences of the Torah

The 36 Transgressions/Offenses

The classical list from Mishnah Keritot 

1:1 outlines these 36 severe violations, which correspond to major capital and divine prohibitions:

Incestuous and Forbidden Relationships (1–13):

    1. Intercourse with one's mother
    2. Intercourse with a father's wife
    3. Intercourse with a daughter-in-law
    4. Intercourse with another male
    5. Bestiality (a male with an animal)
    6. Bestiality (a female with an animal)
    7. Intercourse with a woman and her daughter
    8. Intercourse with a married woman
    9. Intercourse with one's sister
    10. Intercourse with a father's sister
    11. Intercourse with a mother's sister
    12. Intercourse with a wife's sister
    13. Intercourse with a brother's wife
    14. Intercourse with a brother's father's wife
    15. Intercourse with a menstruating woman (niddah)

Serious Religious and Theological Offenses (16–21):
16. Blasphemy (megadeif)
17. Idolatry (avodah zarah)
18. Giving offspring to Molech (child sacrifice)
19. Necromancy or spiritism (baal ov)
20. Desecrating the Sabbath (shabbat)
21. Unclean person eating sacred offerings (kodesh)
22. Entering the Sanctuary while ritually unclean

Dietary and Sacrifice Prohibitions (23–29):

23. Eating forbidden animal fat (chelev)
24. Eating blood (dam)
25. Eating sacrificial meat left past its allowed time (notar)
26. Eating improperly disqualified sacrificial meat (piggul)
27. Slaughtering or offering sacrifices outside the designated shrine
28. Eating leaven (chametz) during Passover
29. Eating or working on Yom Kippur

Oils, Incense, and Positive Precepts (30–36):

30. Making unauthorized anointing oil
31. Making unauthorized incense formula
32. Smearing oneself with the holy anointing oil
33. Failing to bring the Passover offering (positive commandment)
34. Failing to perform circumcision (mila) (positive commandment)
35. Premeditated murder / Manslaughter dynamics (listed in broader capital expansions)
36. Kidnapping or false prophecy/cursing parents in judicial expansions
24:00  Spirituality is the good feeling we get when we think we are following the rules correctly.
25:00  Divine revelation and organised religion
26:00  Ten Commandments
27:00  Catholicism
28:00  The European Wars of Religion
29:00  Cradle Catholic
31:00  First Amendment
32:00  Sin City
33:00  The Oneness of God
34:00  God is easier to believe than the Trinity.
35:00  Divine revelation
37:00  Intellectual curiosity
38:00  Political activism
Atheists and hypocrites
39:00  The rule of law
Egalitarianism
40:00  Atheism
41:00  Atheists who say OMG
42:00  Using the name of God in vain
43:00  Unity
There is only one Abrahamic God. 
44:00  Competition and greed
45:00  Atheist and theist perspectives
46:00  Agnosticism
47:00  We act on our beliefs.
Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.
50:00  Mark 12:5
51:00  Tithe
52:00  The Korans is clearer.

Long Island Audit

57:00  Believing in the afterlife
59:00  Group solidarity
1:00:00  Jews being chosen by God
1:04:00  Runescape
1:06:00  TLC
1:10:00  Agnosticism
1:12:00  Death warrants signed by absolute monarchs would detract from the principle of the right to life and liberty.
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Is the West right to be suspicious of Islam and Muslims?



I was once an Islamophobe.

The rules are necessary to see who breaks the rules. 

3:00  Western values have never been defined. 

4:00  The Abrahamic God

5:00  Tom Holland incorrectly says Christianity is Liberalism. 

7:00  Liberalism was a reaction against Christianity. 

8:00  Xenophobia

10:00  Ethical monotheists would be rolling with the punches.

11:00  The Koran is more suitable for humanity than the Torah. 

12:00  How can the Torah be better than the Koran?

13:00  Islam is antithetical to matriarchy and the West is a degenerate matriarchy.

14:00  Incels

15:00  Sharia protect married parents.

17:00  Nihilism is a product of atheism. 

18:00  No intellectual curiosity about the Koran.

19:00  Neurosis

20:00  The necessity of a perfectly moral God

21:00  Christian chauvinists are their own worst enemy. 
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Hypocrisy, privacy and long contracts we sign without reading


10:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins.

11:00  Hal

12:00  I am accused of pissing in the oasis.

Bees in bonnets

13:00  Group therapy

14:00  I am a good listener.

M J Murphy

15:00  Ask a question.
16:00  Unresolved issues
17:00  My stream with an idiot whom I told to shut the fuck up - was it Rob?
18:00  My motives
19:00  Christianity and the Founding Fathers
20:00  Propositional Tyranny
Theology
21:00  Theology is not Lego.
22:00  Evil laughter
Declaration of Independence
Self-evident
23:00  "Certain unalienable rights"
The victor writes history.
24:00  History as it is taught in the UK in different generations. 
25:00  Jews write a warts and all history of themselves. 
26:00  Tisha B'Av
Ramadan and the lunar calendar
27:00  Lunisolar calendar
Anno Domini, CE and BCE
28:00  Idolatry

29:00  TAYO and OLSON join.
30:00  The men talk football.
31:00  I am accused of hypocrisy and postmodernism. 
32:00  I have not lied about my beliefs. 

33:00  CHRIS HOWARD is finally audible. 
34:00 Hypocrites
37:00  Moral superiority
40:00  Francois La Rochefoucauld: "Hypocrisy is the tribute that vice pays to virtue."
42:00  Humble bragging
47:00  Secular Koranism
Shaming people atheists

48:00  "You'd like to believe that good will be rewarded and evil punished, wouldn't you?"

49:00  God exists to punish evil and reward good in this life and the next.

50:00  Seneca: "Religion is regarded by the people as true, by the wise as foolish and by the rulers as useful." 

52:00  Whether or not we believe in God, we have to obey the law of the land, especially if it is God's law.
53:00  I am likened to AI.
54:00  God
55:00  Belief and obedience
Getting it down in writing
56:00  The small print
58:00  The Confucianism and Legalism
59:00  Deemed agreement of long contracts
1:00:00  Privacy agreements
1:01:00  Trust and belief
1:02:00  Long contracts
1:03:00  Flock cameras
1:04:00  Forgiveness
Blackmailable
1:05:00  Judge Kavanaugh

AI Overview                 

The Old Testament law requires two or three witnesses to establish any charge or crime. A single witness is not enough to convict someone or carry out a punishment like the death penalty.

Key Bible Passages
Deuteronomy 17:6: On the testimony of two or three witnesses ... states that no one can be put to death based on a single witness.
Deuteronomy 19:15: The Testimony of Two or Three Witnesses explains that a matter must be set by two or three witnesses.

Numbers 35:30: Repeats that a person can be put to death on the word of witnesses, but no one dies based on just one witness.

Why the Law Exists
Stops lies: It keeps people from making false claims against others.

Protects the innocent: It lowers the chance of punishing an innocent person.

Brings truth: Corroboration ensures fairness in legal matters.

 

1:07:00   Public figures

1:08:00  Organised religion

1:10:00   People obey more if they believe.

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Brett explains why he self-righteously times me out from 50:00


50:00  Brett explains why he cannot take the truth on the chin like a man. 
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