Wednesday, 23 September 2026

Suffering is punishment for sin or a trial; we have faith that our moral convictions will pay off


2:06:00  Oscar Wilde: "The only way to get rid of temptation is to give into it."

The difference between conviction and faith

2:08:00  Moral convictions

2:09:00  My convictions and hope

2:10:00  We act on our convictions.

2:11:00  If we have no moral convictions ie that good should be rewarded and evil punished, we won't defend any of our religious principles. 

2:13:00  Scott was talking about men dying for the principle of being men which he observed no one else seemed prepared to do. 

2:14:00  Marriage is a child protection scheme. 

2:15:00  IVF

2:16:00  Iranians got their country back with Islam.

2:17:00  Utopia

2:18:00  quran.com/24/2

2:19:00  The punishment must fit the crime. 

2:20:00  You'd like to think that good will be rewarded  and evil punished, wouldn't you?

2:21:00  Kant and Nietzsche

2:22:00  Kulturkampf

2:23:00  The Catholic Church was fatally weakened in 1870 ie Doctrine of Papal Infallibility and Italian Unification


2:24:00  Christianity is not working for white people.

2:25:00  quran.com/2/256

2:27:00  I question Megan's belief in the afterlife. 

2:28:00  Good is what God commands and evil what He forbids. 

2:30:00  Reincarnation and the suffering of innocents

2:31:00  Sins of the fathers

2:32:00  Marriage 

2:33:00  Feminism

2:35:00  Slavery and prostitution

2:36:00  Divorce and annulments
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Even atheist men are supposed to say they are prepared to die for the principle of being men

 

Mad, stupid or evil?

3:00  The Therapist

4:00  Even if I were white, male, Christian and American, TLC would still hate me because they don't want to do anything other than be YouTubers. 

5:00  The recruitment of Broken Beta Losers as Keyboard Warriors of SK USA

6:00  Scott and the issue of transgenderism

7:00  Mark Parker

8:00  Even atheist men must be prepared to die for the principle of being men

9:00  Female soldiers

11:00  TLC +TLM = SK USA

14:00  Facts and logic have been banned by the matriarchy.

15:00  Men of TLC 

16:00  The Dissident Right

The average age of the West

17:00  No principled leader for TLC

Scott

18:00  No need for anyone to die.


20:00  Which is worse - Partial birth abortion on demand or transgender men reading Bible stories to impressionable schoolchildren?

21:00  Making the arguments to change hearts and  minds

The disagreement is intergenerational. 
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Secular Koranism as a viable business proposition




3:00  PVK could do better with SK USA.

4:00  Normie and boomer

5:00  Beating the betas of TLC into shape?

7:00  Jobs for the boys and girls and the people who do DNA tests, bankers, lawyers, town planners, arbitrators, administrators, teachers in remedial English, teachers of social skills giving wife and husband classes.

9:00  American National Network of Noahide Social Clubs ("ANNNSC")

13:00  Secular Koranism as a business proposition

14:00  How to introduce the topics religion and morality into general conversations 

15:00  Eugenic sexual reproduction and child-rearing

16:00  A new moral hierarchy (patriarchy) of privileging married parents over non-parents and treating unmarried parents as sex offenders instead of our current degenerate matriarchy

17:00  Shaming people into accepting the moral utility of God

18:00  Theocracy is the logic of my propositions.

19:00  Keyboard Army

20:00  SK Q&A
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Tuesday, 22 September 2026

Reincarnation is grade retention in Moral Education

 


4:00  Even atheist men must say they are prepared to die for the principle of being men.

9:00  The matriarchy

DEI, gender pay gap, gay marriage and transgenderism

11:00  Serenity

PVK

12:00  Failure of patriarchy

13:00  The progressive alienation of married fathers

14:00  Talking about Scott's issues

15:00  Moral imperative

16:00  DEI

Mark Parker



19:00  Marriage is linked to general standards  of sexual morality.

21:00  Being a normie

22:00  Normies ignore their moral imperative.

23;00  Hypocrisy

24:00  The heresy of Christian Universalism

25:00  Sharia would allow Western men to know their unalienable rights.

26:00  Codified principles

27:00  Good being rewarded and evil punished

28:00  Atheists claiming a higher morality than ethical monotheists.

29:00  Noahide laws

30:00  Righteous atheist

31:00  Public indecency offence

32:00  No cottaging

Domestic partnership to replace gay marriage. 

33:00  Licensed brothels for the unmarriageable and associated businesses

34:00  Jobs for the boys and girls and the people who do DNA tests

35:00  Who wrote Hebrews 9:27 and how would he know about the afterlife?

37:00  Will there a Pass List or Class List be published after the Universe is wound up?

Handicap 

40:00  Grade retention

The Theory and Practical

41:00  Atheists will end having their morals more rigorously examined than ethical monotheists. 

43:00  Moral measurement of moral education

44:00  Patriarchy would exclude national leaders being chosen from the following group:

  1. Women
  2. Bachelors
  3. Men who are sex offenders
  4. Married fathers with non-adult chldren
  5. Married fathers with adult children who are not a credit to them

47:00  PVK's Islamophobic comments


50:00  Thomas Jefferson
51:00  The Book of Hebrews is not included in the Jefferson Bible.
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Only reincarnation would make Christian Universalism fair


11:59 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Confucius said that way back in Ancient China. Check out Rectification of Names.

12:00 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#3
​Words are ideas. Ideas need to be properly understood to be properly useful.

12:01 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#3
​Careless words cost lives, the British used to say to each other in WW2.

12:01 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​Words are portals that evoke ideas

12:01 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#3
​When boundaries are blurred, rules are uncompromised and eventually words lose their meaning.

12:01 PM
@βρεττς
​#2
​Politipathic is Claire’s MO

12:02 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​I like that word, Brett

12:02 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#3
​I wonder if Chris would like to discuss Rob proposing to shun us from now on!

12:02 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​He did tell me goodbye this morning 😭

12:03 PM
@βρεττς
​#2
​Politicomaniacal is clearly defined and unambiguous.

12:03 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​There is no such word as politipathic.

12:03 PM
@βρεττς
​#2
​All words are violence to Rob.

12:04 PM
@βρεττς
​#2
​Oh, it is a word. Look it up with your AI bot.

12:04 PM
@βρεττς
​#2
​Possessed by an obsessive, irrational passion or fixation on political affairs.

12:04 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​OSK - Megan wanted to know what type of car you had if any.

12:05 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#3
​Politicomania is a weapon word to hurt political activists.

12:05 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#3
​I occasionally cycle.

12:06 PM
@Eolson-helper
​#3
​I thought you might have a black Mercedes Benz with a driver :)

12:06 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​I know my fellow bikin babes

12:07 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Politics is unavoidable for social animals.

12:07 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Eolson-helper Yes, with tinted glass just like a gangster!

12:08 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#3
​I was hoping to discuss NORMIE.

12:08 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​OSK- hahaha you’re leading your gangsta life ;)

12:09 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#3
​My keyboard is my weapon.

12:09 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​Normie is my crash word. I’m out (jk). But I do have to go to work.

12:09 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#3
​The keyboard is mightier than the bomb. Or something like that.

12:09 PM
@βρεττς
​#2
​Your tongue is a pretty sharp weapon as well

12:10 PM
@βρεττς
​#2
​OSK the repellent that keeps Normie‘s away😉

12:10 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#3
​I just say what I mean in the fewest possible words. Live chat is my weapon of choice.

12:12 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​My agenda is to make the normie politically active.

12:12 PM
@βρεττς
​#1
​How’s it going for you five years later?

12:13 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Everybody listen to my conversation with Michael Sartori.

12:13 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​People do say they know me from way back.

12:14 PM
@βρεττς
​#1
​Never a good reputation to be said you get around😉

12:14 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​I implant ideas. They sink into the subconsciousness of the normie and emerge later as the original idea of the normie and then they become Claire Clones.

12:15 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​I have a giant Google footprint, people used to say about me until Google reduced it.

12:15 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​The power of suggestion is potent indeed ....

12:16 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​You are all to think of me as the reincarnation of Thomas Jefferson ...

12:33 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​Christians shouldn’t be afraid. Period. But of course we are all afraid of something…

12:41 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​He doesn’t deny God’s punishment, right?

12:46 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​Claire, must punishment be eternal?

12:47 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​Good morning, Rod.

12:47 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#2
​Universal mulligan

12:48 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​70-80 mortal years to earn eternal bliss or damnation? Not my idea of a just or loving God. The key word being eternal.

12:49 PM
@roderickhare
​​Eternal Moral Pachinko Machine

12:50 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​Is it moral to do right without love of neighbor?

12:52 PM
@roderickhare
​​Some participants in the TLC remind me of the old Monty Python skit called the Argument Clinic. Man walks in and says "Good morning, I'd like to have an argument."

12:54 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​LOl, Rod. We all have our triggers. Christian Universalism appears to be mine this morning.

12:54 PM
@roderickhare
​​Conversation in search of an argument.

12:57 PM
@roderickhare
​​I love the state of awe. Walking into Notre Dame for the first time for example.

12:59 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
​#3
​Awe is awesome. I seek out awe. It strengthens my belief in the Almighty.

1:00 PM
@roderickhare
​​@stefaniecristos8514 I can see that.

1:02 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​Is religion a delusion

1:03 PM
@roderickhare
​​@SeekingGenuine Now there's a question.

1:04 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​Because to compare these phenomena in the way Claire is, we have to consider that question

1:05 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
​#3
​Well, 🐝, it’s not provable.

1:07 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​Religion for me feels like a means to community, and community is the support and flourishing of the salvation of each other, and so to be in community there is a level of complying with dilusions

1:08 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
​#2
​Might be time for another conversation, Claire

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Sticking up for Scott


will this ne another stream that PVK enables angry white alcoholics to ferment violent rhetoric?

10:52 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​We can talk about the stuff he talked about.

10:52 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Coward.

10:52 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Too scared to let me on.

10:53 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Yeah, kick me, coward.

10:53 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​You've just said you're not going to have it.

10:53 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​I make accusations that you cannot deny, coward.

10:54 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​So what did Scott talk about?

10:54 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​I am backstage for you to do a soundcheck.

10:55 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​We can discuss THE TOPICS Scott discussed.

10:55 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Instead of mumbling and muttering about nothing.

10:55 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Nobody was hurt, Scott.

10:56 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Put it back up, Scott. It wasn't that bad.

10:56 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​In the fight against the darkness there are often casualties

10:57 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Scott and the others need to clarify what they mean when they talk about dying.

10:58 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Artisan-Artifacts Scott is not a supercilious British bastard.

10:59 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​What do you think he means by death, Claire?

10:59 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
​​No that’s my job

11:00 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​TLC is as toxic as the matriarchy.

11:00 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Any relationship can turn toxic, Rob. How’s your day going?

11:00 AM
@chrishoward8473
​​@Artisan-Artifacts so... you demand equal outcomes for everyone

11:00 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@SeekingGenuine Even Grim asked him what he meant and told him to watch it.

11:01 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
#2
​Seemed necessary

11:02 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​I am not criticising Scott's behaviour. In fact, I want him on my channel sober and sane. He always makes more sense when he talks to me!

11:03 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Scott has fallen into bad company because he is associating with a bunch of inarticulate goofballs. His frustration is palpable.

11:04 AM
@βρεττς
​​You’re just ridiculous. To compare Nathan is absolute insanity.

11:04 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​What behavior and patterns are you criticizing, Rob? Happy to think on it with you

11:04 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​I had an unexpectedly rewarding conversation with Michael Sartori.

11:05 AM
@βρεττς
​​Yes it was good Claire

11:05 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Thank you, Brett.

11:05 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Yeah, Claire? What did you discuss?

11:05 AM
@βρεττς
​​No he wasn’t

11:06 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Holiest of cheese

11:06 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@SeekingGenuine Meaning Crisis, Nietzsche, the matriarchy, Kant, marriage

11:07 AM
@βρεττς
​​Yes people can take things the wrong way

11:07 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​I actually changed the title.

11:07 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Nice Claire! Is it on your channel?

11:07 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@SeekingGenuine Yes.

11:07 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​The convo between Scott and MDP was a reflection of every convo I’ve had with my parents about my suffering

11:08 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​I’ll check it out, Claire

11:08 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Michael was saying Christians shouldn't be scared of reading Nietzsche which gives me the perfect launching pad for saying they shouldn't be afraid of reading the Koran.

11:09 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Spiritual warfare is necessarily violent

11:10 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​GM, did I miss a fight?

11:10 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Artisan-Artifacts I would advise Scott to be very clear about what he meant by dying. Actually, a dayan said something similar about gay marriage and transgenderism.

11:10 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Fight against darkness 🚀🚀🚀🚀

11:11 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Almost always, Chad

11:11 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​I met Michael S and he is a high quality individual

11:11 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​For you alone are the holy one, you alone are the lord, you alone are the most high Jesus Christ

11:12 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@SeekingGenuine Spiritual battle is spiritual battle. Military warfare is military warfare. People who refuse to listen to reason are provoking violence.

11:12 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​I don’t disagree with you, Claire 💯

11:13 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Dumb people who abuse their power and make it very clear to you that they will never listen to reason however good the arguments provoke violence, geddit, @Eolson-helper?

11:13 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​I’m sure there is fear, I’ll be praying Scott

11:16 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Eolson-helper You and people of your ilk are provoking violence by refusing to listen to reason and avoiding conversations and keeping me backstage.

11:17 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Being aligned and integrated is a big part of the process too, Scott so good for you. The struggle is that this type of alignment in truth can often it lead you away from comfort, which is terrifying

11:17 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Eolson-helper If you have lost the argument and cannot win the argument however much you and the people of your ilk confer with each other, then accept that you have lost the argument and concede.

11:19 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Eolson-helper You already understand the arguments and you know you cannot win it. You're not really that stupid. That's why you won't let me speak.

11:19 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Amen 🙏

11:21 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#3
​🙏 for peace and reconciliation in Scott’s heart.

11:26 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
#3
​The I don’t remember is tied to her unwillingness to answer his question on summary

11:26 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
#3
​Toodles

11:27 AM
@Artisan-Artifacts
​​I pray that TLCers would get some professional help for their psychological issues before they hurt themselves or others. I shall not associate with yall any longer, it's obvious this is a toxic cult

11:29 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Claire has made it personal after criticizing personal 🤔

11:31 AM
@Artisan-Artifacts
​​bee, I wish you well, sister. I shall no longer participate here anymore, just know I really appreciate you and wish you well in all endeavors.

11:32 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​Rob, what was the final,straw?

11:32 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​I understand and appreciate you, Rob and want what’s best for you 🙏 praying for us all

11:33 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Blessings Olson

11:33 AM
@Artisan-Artifacts
​​stef, I was remaining hopeful for some folks around here but it's obvious TLCers have lost their minds and spewing hate and violent rhetoric

11:34 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#3
​What happened? I don’t want to associate with that either…

11:34 AM
@Artisan-Artifacts
​​I wish you well stef and bee

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Michael Sartori: "The Meaning Crisis is a luxury belief of the spoilt and affluent."


Michael Sartori's long and short version of his book available on Amazon

1:00  Pamphlet
2:00  Nietzsche
3:00  Writing as self-analysis
4:00  Existentialism
5:00  "God Is Dead."
6:00  Hitler's favourite philosopher
The Will to Power
8:00  Existentialists are atheists.
Heidegger
11:00  Philosophy merges into politics.
12:00  Bees in our bonnets
13:00  Moral philosophy has to come from practical reason. 

14:00  Should we obey God's laws? What are God's laws? Does God exist?

Immanuel Kant
16:00  Jordan Peterson
17:00  Principle of Universalisability
21:00  Sexual morality
Schopenhauer
22:00  Problem of the Will
26:00  Rebellion and loss of credibility
27:00  The matriarchy
28:00  Western governments cannot even give the impression of good government.
29:00  Rousseau
30:00  The Meaning Crisis
32:00  Slave Morality
33:00  Voting
34:00  Rebellion
35:00  The Meaning Crisis is a luxury belief of the spoilt and affluent. 
39:00  Our culture of casual sex militates against stable communities.
41:00  Marxism and Rousseau
Rousseau had a challenging wife. 
43:00  Autonomous individuality - sexual liberation from the rules of marriage and good parenting - for all policed by the state
44:00  The Noble Savage and the Social Contract

46:00  Jewish theology is the Jewish philosophy of believing that good will be rewarded and evil punished in this life and the next by the supreme and eternal Abrahamic God who forbade idolatry and blasphemy as well as internalising the Noahide laws and avoiding mortal sin.

48:00  Abuse of power
49:00  Solomon died an idolater.
50:00  Absolute monarchy is absolutely corrupt. 
51:00  Trump's lies and broken promises

54:00  There is no religious obligation of jihad in Christianity making Christians adopt the fallback policy of praying to Jesus instead of solving their problems with facts and logic. 

55:00  The unmotivated slave
1:00:00  What shall we do after we have killed God?

1:02:00  The problem of corrupt rulers is easily solved once people are prepared to call out hypocrites and liars as well as those who make illogical and unsound arguments. 

1:04:00  Pursuing happiness under God's laws
1:05:00  Eternal recurrence
1:07:00  Fellowship and community

1:08:00  Whether or not we think God actually exists or was a Creation of Man created to assist Man in his politics, morality or spiritualty, we should obey the laws supposed to be from God to reap the benefits of organised religion eg the rule of law enjoyed under patriarchy as well as economic, social and political stability. 

1:09:00  We are more likely to enjoy meritocracy under a republic than in a monarchy.

1:10:00  Slave/Master Morality

1:13:00  Envy is thoughtcrime leading to mortal sin. 

1:15:00  We should think of our spouse as unique.  

1:18:00  We are all the Slaves of God including the Emperor of China under the Mandate of Heaven.

Theosis

Is God a divine father or a tyrant?

1:20:00  We are creatures of our time and circumstances.

1:22:00  Fear of competition

1:23:00  If we get more rights in a theocracy than in a liberal democracy, why wouldn't the rational atheist choose the better system?

1:24:00  Rebellion and the American Revolution

1:25:00  Republican Rome

1:26:00  The Republic of Rome became an absolute monarchy.

1:27:00  The Year of the Five Emperors

1:28:00  The rules of marriage were liberated in imperial Rome. 

1:30:00  The virtue of lifelong marriages

1:31:00  O G Rose

1:32:00  Settling

1:33:00  Not allowed to return to your original spouse after divorce in the Torah?

1:34:00  Religion was created to maintain the eugenic practice of marriage. 

1:35:00  The virgin bride and virgin bridegroom

1:36:00  Nietzsche won't make you atheist.

1:37:00  It seems the Koran does  not say virgins should only marry virgins. 

1:40:00  Repentance and redemption
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Suffering is punishment for sin or a trial; we have faith that our moral convictions will pay off

2:06:00  Oscar Wilde: "The only way to get rid of temptation is to give into it." The difference between conviction and faith 2:08...