Saturday, 4 July 2026

Do men need to die for their principles?

 

1:27:00  Ian Campbell:

But I had this thought a while ago about martyrs and how we have a lot of like stick in the mud traditionalist martyrs where they're, like, "I'm not going to change what I'm doing, society be damned." That's one way to do it. But I feel like we need some martyrs that are willing to like go beyond the walls that have been set up for us by forces outside of ourselves, even just handed down to us. Go into the wilderness, maybe slay a dragon, and then come back and help orient the society through that type of martyrdom. You might even have to die in the process of fighting this dragon. It might take 10,000 martyrs to accomplish anything material, but the process of living your life set against the things that are parasitic or improper false sort of lenses that are distorting our view. That's going to be a process of encounter and experience and and maybe listening to this we sort of sense that things are wrong like where we started this conversation. I think it is only through the living of these experiences and these phenomena that we will be able to recover meaning. 

What to think of people who say "Friendship means more to me than propositions."


1:38:00  "Friendship means more to me than propositions." If by propositions you mean principles, are you basically saying you are unprincipled?

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That's because most Westerners are not Christian. This means Christianity has failed if most Westerners do not consider themselves Christian. Britain is only nominally Christian because it is a monarchy supported by the Church of  England. If you count the actual number who believe in God and the people who worship the Trinity, it is probably already the case that the people who really believe in God are in fact Muslim and their numbers already exceed the number of people who are confirmed Christians.  

What does it mean to be Christian? In my view, only people who are confirmed Christians have the right to claim Christian identity. The rest wishing to identify as Christian would just be Cultural Christians. To call yourself a Cultural Christian is to advertise your non-worship of the Trinity or even the denial of the existence of the Abrahamic God.  

Both the Catholic and Anglican Church are shy of publishing the actual numbers of confirmed Catholics and Anglicans because they are abysmally low.

Christianity is not even the official religion of European kingdoms with Christian monarchs eg Spain, Belgium and America is not officially a Christian nation. 

In fact, the Founding Fathers were heretical Christians who separated the Church from their State to quarantine the religion that supported the divine right of kings.  

Once Europeans kingdoms ceased the Christian practice of heretic burning, belief in Christianity began to decline. Before 80 years had elapsed since the last Briton was executed for blasphemy in 1697, the American Revolution broke out initiating a series of republican revolutions that ended  Christendom in 1918. If you want to blame the end of Christendom on anything or anyone, blame the Americans. If  you want to go back further, blame the English for killing their king exposing the inability of the Anglican Church to  defend the divine right of Charles I to rule. If you want to go back even further, blame the decline and fall of the Roman Empire on Christianity as Edward Gibbon did in The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which the Founding Fathers read.  

Here's a thought experiment: imagine you are all descendants of Charles I, Louis XVI and Nicholas II and they could be resurrected to answer a few  questions on Christianity. If  you asked them "To what extent was Christianity successful in defending your divine right to rule?" what do you think their answer would be?

Here's  another thought experiment: imagine Constantine the Great being resurrected and being prepared to answer a few questions on Christianity. 

1.  Did you establish the Roman Catholic Church because the old imperial cult was failing?
2.  To what extent did Christianity prevent the decline and fall of the Roman Empire in 476?

Yet another thought experiment: imagine the Founding Fathers being resurrected and being prepared to answer a few questions on their motivations in separating the church from their state. 

1.  Did  you agree with Edward Gibbon's thesis that Christianity caused the decline and fall of the Roman Empire?
2.  Did you separate the church from your state after accepting Gibbon's thesis?
3.  Did you know that the only holy book that supports the First Amendment is quran.com/2/256?

Is this what you want, Americans, on the 250th anniversary of the American Republic?

If so, by all means pass a Christian Amendment to make America officially a Christian Republic. This has already been done in Samoa, with predictable consequences. 

Samoa's prime minister proposes ban on non-Christian faiths after vowing 'God-centred' leadership

Feel free to turn back time, all the way back to the 4th century when the subjects of Christian absolute monarchs began to be force-fed the idolatry and blasphemy of the Trinity breaking the first and second commandments which presumably leads to damnation if God exists to punish anyone for anything since they are mortal sins.

Friday, 3 July 2026

We must neither be a hypocrite nor disagree with anyone

46:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins to ask who was annoyed at the discussion about Propositional Tyranny.

48:00  Signal chat comments

51:00  Jordan Peterson's atheism

52:00  Living by our principles

53:00  Norman Vincent Peale

54:00  King Charles as defender of faith

55:00  The Wars of the Reformation

56:00  We must neither be a hypocrite nor disagree with anyone! 

57:00  La Rochefoucauld: "Hypocrisy is the tribute that vice pays to virtue."

58:00  Are there two different and conflicting sets of rules we are supposed to be following?

59:00  Cognitive dissonance

1:00:00  Spirituality is the good feeling we get when we do what we want to do, are rewarded by social approval and the approval of a higher power.

1:03:00  Our legal rights must be maintained.

1:04:00  Feminism and sexual morality

1:07:00  Noahide laws

1:08:00  Tacitus: The more the laws, the more corrupt the state. 

Talking about Jeremiah, 

1:09:00 Rejection of political activism because of the corruption of politics

1:10:00  Rules are made to be broken.

1:12:00  Christianity was spread by Western imperialism.

Constantine the Great

1:14:00  Edward Gibbon attributed the fall of Rome to Christianity.

1:35:00  Andrew: "Some things are worth dying for."

Therefore some things are worth arguing about.

All the prophets of God were revolutionaries and political activists.

Some people will use their religion as a reason for their political activism, others will use their religion as an excuse to avoid it. 

Andrew says on the one hand that we have to achieve some kind of "personal transformation" before we can engage in politics. It is a form of procrastination, isn't it?

Dumb Muslims are told to perfect themselves before they seek to improve society, but only God if He exists is perfect. Humans can only talk about deciding which of God's laws to obey - the ones in the Torah or the ones in the Koran? - and how to interpret them. Let us therefore not make the perfect be the enemy of the good enough. 

The perfect is this nebulous goal of "personal transformation",  whatever it is. The good enough is a proposal the restoration of the patriarchy that many married fathers dare not propose because they fear the disapproval of their wife whom they do not want to alienate who might divorce them using the rules of no fault divorce. 

If politics is corrupt, shouldn't we be asking why it has become so corrupt? Corruption is ignoring truth. 

The answer is obvious, to me anyway. The matriarchy is the cause of ever deepening and widening degeneracy throughout the West with more crime, corruption, delinquency, mental illness and Meaning Crises. 

As always, there will be people who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo and will have something to lose under the proposed system eg people who wish to die childless, gay or transgender,  and people who do not want their status lowered under the new system as well as women of childbearing age not wanting to feel they have to be forced to marry just any beta male loser because they don't want to be left on the shelf. 

Matriarchy is a society prioritising the preferences of non-parents and unmarried parents who casually conceived and parented their illegitimate offspring. 

Patriarchy is a society prioritising the preferences of married parents who want to properly parent their legitimate offspring.

The matriarchy is all about blurring the distinction between married parents and same-sex couples, non-parents and never married parents.  

If married fathers identifying as Christians cannot bring themselves to call out the matriarchy established by widespread illegitimacy because they don't want to want to be seen to be making controversial statements considered heretical to the matriarchy or their wife, then they are actually allowing the patriarchy to be progressively destroyed by feminism. 

All advanced and healthy civilisations are patriarchies and all declining societies are matriarchies.

The perfect patriarchy is 100% married parents and the "perfect" matriarchy is 100% unmarried parents.

It is interesting that even married fathers now lack the courage to challenge feminism and do not associate the corruption of politics with feminism.  The fear may be linked to their fear of being divorced by their feminist wife under the rules of no fault divorce.

Sometimes, it needs great courage to say how afraid we really are. 

Jews are supposed to believe that God in His compassion has arranged for the cure to exist before the disease. Only the Deadly Sin of Pride prevents us from admitting that we have lost the argument, leaving us with only the the option of pretending not to understand or saying in an infantile way "We don't  like it, we don't wanna, you can't make us."  

Men adopting the option of pretending not to understand in order to ignore their moral imperative will have conclusions drawn about their masculinity. Their women who want to become married mothers will certainly know how to vote with their feet as they walk towards the mosque believing men in mosques more likely to be marriageable and take their marriage vows seriously than men in churches. 

BRAVE
Women in America are significantly more likely to convert to Islam than men.  Surveys conducted by the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) indicate that American women are four times more likely than men to convert to the faith. 

Key demographic details include:

Ratio: Female converts outnumber male converts by approximately 4:1. 

Volume: Estimates suggest around 20,000 people convert to Islam in the U.S. annually, with women forming the majority. 

Diversity: While early waves of conversion were heavily African American, the demographic has diversified to include substantial numbers of white and Latino converts, with women comprising a slight majority of these new adherents.

Political and moral problems are the same thing


1:00  Morally inadequate Western men
3:00  Incomprehension, reluctance, fear, stupidity

Unprincipled Western ignoring their moral imperative.

4:00  TLC men
6:00  Propositional tyranny is dogma eg the Trinity.
8:00  Islam is absolutely logical.
9:00  "What a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive."

Political problems can be solved by using a fairer moral systtem and properly enforcing it. 

10:00  Ian Campbell interviewing Orthobonehead Richard Rohlin  

11:00  The role of a father

12:00   Alpha males

13:00  Broken beta males

14:00  Ethos of TLC

15:00  Moral convictions

16:00  Secular Koranism supports proper parenting.

17:00  Feminism is drafts women into sluttery. 

18:00  Spinelessness men

19:00  Fear of wives

20:00  Andy Burnham

22:00  Brett says I am going to fast. 

Show and tell

23:00  "Universal history"

24:00  The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon


25:00  Supporting your children whatever they do


30:00  America has no official moral system.
31:00  An ocean of grey
32:00  Stockholm Syndrome
33:00  The Founding Fathers were trying to wean Americans from Christianity.
34:00  Neal Daedulus
36:00  Christianity is like food unfit for human consumption.
37:00  Sharia is the lowest standard of compliance to God's laws.
38:00  What is a Christian principle?

Christianity is the religion that destroyed the Roman Empire, the institution of monarchy and the US


Rome fell in 476.

2:00  Christendom ended in 1918.



"Propositional tyranny"

5:00  Christianity is the religion that does not bind. 

The New Emperor's New Clothes

7:00  When was it safe to reject Christianity and monarchy?

8:00  The Emperor Napoleon

What do you think Charles I, Louis XVI and  Nicholas II would say if you asked them how well Christianity worked to defend their divine right to rule?

10:00  Were the subjects of Christian monarchs consulted about their king's proposed new religion before they converted to Christianity?

12:00 Thomas Jefferson and the other Founding Fathers read Edward Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire

13:00  Isn't there an American capable of understanding what I am saying?

14:00  John Vervaeke will not be defining propositional tyranny.

17:00  Neal Daedulus


19:00  Beta males have no principled political leadership because males with leadership qualities do not really believe good will be rewarded and evil punished in this life or the next even if they are Calvinist pastors. 

20:00  "God agrees with me."

21:00  A proposition nation is a theocracy. 

John Calvin was accused of being a Judaizer. 

22:00  While Jews have worked out in the Talmud which of God's laws in the Torah apply to gentiles, gentiles have not yet worked out which laws of the Old Testament apply to them. 

23:00  Why don't Jews ask Christians why they have such a problem with the Noahide laws and ask them how Christianity is  not idolatry and how Jesus is God?

24:00  The Trinity is idolatry.

25:00  Christianity causes mental illness.

26:00  Going to AA meetings and going to the pub is neurotic.

27:00  The beta male fear of asking the logical next question

28:00  Is America a nation of narcissists and nihilists propagating the policies of Sodom and Gomorrah?

29:00  Mental illness

32:00  Id, ego and superego

Stockholm Syndrome  

Is it fair that hypocrites go to hell?


Hypocrites are the enemy within.

1:00  Going along to get along

2:00  Hypocrisy is a mortal sin. 

3:00  Whether your words match your actions

5:00  The indefensibility of the Trinity

6:00  Christians - cultural and believing

8:00  Bums on pews

9:00  Social clubs are not maintainers of morality.

10:00  Why must we with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion?

11:00  Morality can be maintained by sharia. 

12:00  The unmarriageability of Westerners and the failure of their educational institutions

13:00  Cognitive dissonance caused by being force-fed absurd lies

14:00  Using Christianity as a platform

15:00  Christians cannot agree on the definition of heresy.

16:00  Defining idolatry in a way Christians can understand

Hypocrites

17:00  Did the Supreme Leader of Iran inherit his position from his father making him and his father a king?

Are idolaters fundamentally irrational?


The Religion of Mum and Dad

1:00  Christianity is the most powerful form of paganism. 

2:00  Why worship a deity less powerful than the Abrahamic God?

3:00  Corrupt Christians hate truth and logic. 

4:00  Pau Vanderklay has a Jewish ancestor. 

Chad and Luke Thompson promotes Christian Universalism.

5:00  Mitch Capps promotes Christian Nihilism. 

6:00  Orthoboneheads

7:00  Protestants who become Orthoboneheads

8:00  Antisemite John Chrysostom has been made a saint.

9:00  Orthoboneheads are drawn to Orthodox Christianity because they perceive it to be more antisemitic than the Christianity of Mum and Dad.

10:00  Conclusions will be drawn of the views and motivations of recent converts to Orthodox Christianity if they are men of fighting age. 

11:00  Orthodox Christianity is the Also-Ran of the top three Christian denominations. 

12:00  Postgraduates too afraid to face the truth

13:00  Denial

14:00  Do nothing except pray to Jesus

15:00  Nice and nasty cop routine

16:00  Jewish and Muslim hypocrites

17:00  Chris Howard

18:00  The use of language

19:00  Infelicities of expressions

20:00  Retards and lunatics

21:00  E Michael Jones and me

22:00  Leibniz's best of all possible worlds

24:00  The unofficial religions of the West: antisemitism, feminism, Islamophobia, misogyny

25:00  Christianity is a platform for fake Christians to sell their snake oil.

26:00  The Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury

27:00  Was Pope  Francis the first  Catholic universalist?

28:00  Christians who cannot face the fact that they have been lied to since the 4th century

Jews and Muslims are not doing what they are supposed to do. 

30:00  Rabbis ranking the four gentile religions according to their conformity with the Noahide laws

31:00  The Torah < The Koran

32:00  Insane and evil policies of Sodom and Gomorrah

33:00  Hypocritical Christians don't believe God exists to punish anyone for anything. 

Do men need to die for their principles?

  1:27:00  Ian Campbell: But I had this thought a while ago about martyrs and how we have a lot of like stick in the mud traditionalist mart...