11:11 AM
@YoavBressler
The time has come,' the Walrus said, To talk of many things:Of shoes — and ships — and sealing-wax — Of cabbages — and kings —And why the sea is boiling hot — And whether ....'
11:20 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
The accuser likes to replicate
11:21 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
Claire’s captured by idolatry
11:21 AM
@anselman3156
#1
Claire fanatically pushing her ideology without listening
11:21 AM
@anselman3156
#1
Claire comes to berate not to discuss
11:22 AM
@anselman3156
#1
Claire does not listen to reasoned responses and take them on board to reflect on.
11:23 AM
@CharlieWaffles-e4m
It seems Claire’s ideology is her idolatry
11:24 AM
@anselman3156
#1
Claire reckoned that they were right to kill Jesus as an idolater for his testimony of himself
11:27 AM
@anselman3156
#1
Claire brings the false accusations against Jesus and against Christians.
11:28 AM
@anselman3156
#1
Jesus is God become man, as the Bible says. It is vain of Claire to repeat ad nauseam that she rejects that truth.
11:32 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
Define idolatry contextual to you personally Claire
11:33 AM
@anselman3156
#1
Know yourself, Claire. Your mind is closed to what others say
11:34 AM
@anselman3156
#1
Claire sides with Islamic and Talmudic rejection of Jesus as Lord God and Saviour. She is stuck on that and wants laws to persecute Christians as "idolaters"
11:35 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
Claire what is the specific particular question you want me to ask?
11:36 AM
@anselman3156
#1
Claire has been answered many times. There comes a point where you should stop allowing her to hijack and misdirect our conversations
11:36 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#3
Claire saying TLC conversation staying quite superficial just made me laugh.
11:38 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
Is Claire on trial…again?
11:39 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
Again she’s not answered my specific question
11:40 AM
@anselman3156
#1
Claire's sense of cosmic responsibility: to go around little YT channels and insult Jesus and the Christian faith
11:40 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
Define Idolatry please
11:41 AM
@anselman3156
#1
Chad She says it is idolatry to believe in Jesus' testimony of himself as God
11:41 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
That’s doesn’t define idolatry
11:42 AM
@anselman3156
#1
The one God is Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Jesus is Lord. That is what Claire claims is idolatry.
11:42 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
You guys. Don’t talk to Claire
11:42 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
That doesn’t define idolatry
11:43 AM
@YoavBressler
More than that. I calls me a sinner for not calling it idolatry.
11:43 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
She’s defined idolatry many times. Her project has been consistent from day 1
11:43 AM
@anselman3156
#1
Claire would've been among those who wanted to stone Jesus for making himself equal to God if she'd been around then
11:44 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
PVK wants your story, you only want to sell your idea
11:44 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
Saying calling Jesus God isn’t a definition of idolatry it’s a belief
11:45 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
I want to know the specific definition of what idolatry is
11:45 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
Talk to PVK so he can platform her idea and get her to Tucker Carlson. She’s been very clear
11:45 AM
@Jzepp
Claire gets what Claire wants. She likes a fight. That’s a ‘no thank you’ from me.
11:46 AM
@Neal_Daedalus
Substituting a lesser spirit for the highest in orientation, @ChadMatthewAlbin
11:46 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
I believe Claire is larping as the opposed to strengthen the west
11:46 AM
@anselman3156
#1
I do think it sad to have our conversations always diverted by fanatical Claire and her false claims
11:47 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
She’s a proxy for the enemy
11:47 AM
@Neal_Daedalus
Clair is only doing what she is paid to do. Don’t blame the hand for the heart
11:47 AM
@YoavBressler
@teestrypzSOG Yes that is her plan.
11:47 AM
@anselman3156
#1
More Claire, less inclined to watch. Don't let her ruin your live streams
11:47 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
She’s essentially an entertainment lawyer
11:48 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
She explicitly wants to strengthen the west by imposing secular Koranism on it. Does anyone listen to this woman?
11:48 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
I just said that Tayo.
11:48 AM
@anselman3156
#1
She wants to persecute Christians Yes we hear her
11:49 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
I actually think she wants Christians to strengthen their claims
11:49 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
For the crime of idolatry. Exactly Anselman
11:50 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#3
My brain hurts from the circular arguments and lack of logic.
11:51 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#3
Or, I am just too stoopid to understand.
11:52 AM
@anselman3156
#1
lots of thought put into that
11:52 AM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
Christians would be better Christians under sharia.
11:53 AM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
What is the circular logic you refer to, @stefaniecristos8514?
11:53 AM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
At least Tayo is listening.
11:54 AM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
Idolatry would be absolutely allowed under SK because it uncompromisingly supports the First Amendment.
11:54 AM
@anselman3156
#1
T S Eliot's lines on regret of doing others' harm unwittingly thinking you were doing good hit me hard as I look back
11:54 AM
@Jzepp
I feel that @Anselman
11:54 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#3
The road to hell is paved….
11:55 AM
@anselman3156
#1
The gifts reserved for age: painful life review
11:55 AM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@anselman3156 Do you understand that SK uncompromisingly supports the First Amendment? Stop pretending SK would persecute Christians.
11:55 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#3
Indeed. Anselman
11:55 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
I disagree Brett. It may inspire others to leave actual oppressive structures only to find truer ones
11:55 AM
@anselman3156
#1
It is God's mercy that brings us to wisdom through painful self reflection
11:56 AM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
The matriarchy obviously needs to be challenged and defeated and the patriarchy restored.
11:56 AM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@anselman3156 What false claims have I made?
11:56 AM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@ChadMatthewAlbin Who do you consider to be the enemy?
11:56 AM
@Jzepp
#3
In a chat once, I was talking with someone who said we should publish a channel called ‘only regrets’ where we could post our regrets in hopes others could learn from them.
11:57 AM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@Jzepp You have to strive to get what you want, don't you?
11:57 AM
@Jzepp
#3
There is a certain kind of wisdom born only from a deep regret.
11:57 AM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@ChadMatthewAlbin Idolatry is the worship of anything that isn't God.
11:58 AM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@anselman3156 Don't you know that God forbade idolatry and blasphemy in His Commandments?
11:58 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
And I think people coming to godless conclusions are honest
11:58 AM
@anselman3156
#1
@Jzepp Best kept as generalities rather than too explicit public confession perhaps
11:58 AM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@anselman3156 The New Testament does not mention the Trinity.
11:59 AM
@Jzepp
#3
Unless you can do it anonymously on a channel.
11:59 AM
@anselman3156
#1
Most confession is best done privately with trusted confidantes
11:59 AM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@anselman3156 Someone's got to obey 18:4 of the Koran since Muslims refuse to do it
11:59 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
I disagree with them but I think they’re honest
12:00 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@stefaniecristos8514 There have been no discussions of the Trinity in TLC, has there? Understandably PVK does not like discussing it because he is smart enough to know he cannot win the argument.
12:00 PM
@Jzepp
#3
Definitely @Anselman. Only I benefit from a personal confession. The thought was to find a way that others could also benefit.
12:00 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
Is honesty > truth?
12:01 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@ChadMatthewAlbin I want you to ask why idolatry is harmful even if God does not exist to punish it.
12:01 PM
@anselman3156
#1
I got through some church hurt by clinging to Jesus and seeing I was not subject to the vicissitudes of others
12:02 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@anselman3156 Stop saying I want to persecute Christians. SK uncompromisingly supports the First Amendment.
12:02 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@anselman3156 I hear nothing from you about how the Trinity is true and based on scriptural evidence.
12:03 PM
@anselman3156
#1
the personal inner turmoil of others resulting in wrong behaviour in church
12:03 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@anselman3156 Do you know that Muslims do not think Jesus was guilty of blasphemy? That is the only way to reconcile the Islamic position that Jesus is a prophet of God.
12:03 PM
@anselman3156
#1
We have to see beyond the failings of those who hold office in church to the ideal of the office they are meant to represent
12:04 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@anselman3156 What reasoned responses do you want me to take on board?
12:05 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@anselman3156 What do you want me to listen to?
12:06 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@anselman3156 "Church hurt" is the new buzz word.
12:06 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@teestrypzSOG One can be honestly mistaken.
12:07 PM
@Jzepp
#3
Chad, I had a friend tell me that’s one reason he isn’t a Christian. If you are good, it was God in you, if you are bad, it was you.
12:08 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
That’s just bad theology.
12:08 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
But I totally get it
12:08 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@ChadMatthewAlbin Idolaters pay the opportunity cost of not being rightly guided by the best available guide to humanity. Olson will explain OPPORTUNITY COST to you.
12:08 PM
@Jzepp
#3
I couldn’t convince him otherwise.
12:08 PM
@anselman3156
#1
Yes. We should be ready to acknowledge that we have been helped by God to have a personal achievement of good. It is our accomplishment.
12:09 PM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
Amends are about mending the world
12:09 PM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
Not your part!!!
12:09 PM
@anselman3156
#1
Jesus enables us to actually achieve good and to be worthy of reward by him
12:09 PM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
It’s the exact nature of your wrongs
12:10 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@ChadMatthewAlbin Jews and Muslims have a well-developed system of making amends.
12:11 PM
@anselman3156
#1
With humility, we should glory in the good that God has enabled us to succeed in doing
12:11 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
Christians are more interested in hanging out with other Christians than addressing their minds to the consequences of the mortal sin of idolatry in their afterlife.
12:12 PM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
None of us are worthy
12:13 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
I think Brett only understands 20% of what I say.
12:13 PM
@anselman3156
#1
Jesus says to be worthy
12:14 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@anselman3156 Worthy of what?
12:14 PM
@anselman3156
#1
When the Lord will say, Well done good and faithful servant it would be false piety to say, I did not do anything I was just a robot programmed by you
12:16 PM
@anselman3156
#1
As long as we keep in mind we are utterly dependent on God for our very existence and all we can achieve. It is still achievement which he rewards
12:16 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
A feature of being Christian is the lack of wrestling with the interpretation of God's laws. They don't understand the nature & purpose of Jacob's ladder while Jews and Muslims reason with the rules.
12:17 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@anselman3156 Do you think Christianity forbids political activism?
12:31 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
Why’s the ideas of AA more welcomed in this space than the ideas of SK? Is it just the messengers or is there a fittednes between the AA project and the TLC project?
12:33 PM
@Neal_Daedalus
SK Soren Kierkegaard?
12:33 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@teestrypzSOG AA is more perceived to be American, obviously!
12:34 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
Secular Koranism
12:34 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@teestrypzSOG There is also a lot of unacknowledged Islamophobia and cultural chauvinism.
12:35 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
Beta males are not going to show any moral leadership.
12:35 PM
@AT_Shipley
All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation.
12:37 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
It is a shame Brett won't let Morty on, presumably to make people think I am the only dissenter.
12:41 PM
@AT_Shipley
I find people who have come through AA have seriously identified their "sin", the challenge is not to adopt it as their identity. Thoughts?
12:42 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
@AT_Shipley The real religion of AA is of course Islam, but they dare not say it.
12:42 PM
@RonCopperman
AT, identity as beloved and redeemed
12:43 PM
@VoodooWoo-c9s
The matriarchy makes men hate themselves who increasingly drink to forget how much they hate themselves for allowing themselves to be emasculated by feminism and atheism.
12:45 PM
@RonCopperman
T, I agree...or at least i know God judges all my thoughts. And convicts me if they are wrong and also confirms when they are good.
12:45 PM
@AT_Shipley
Does that make all thoughts prayer or all thoughts significant?
12:46 PM
@RonCopperman
but spoken prayer has a punch to it.
12:46 PM
@AT_Shipley
However we are encouraged to pray at all times...?
12:49 PM
@Neal_Daedalus
Forgiveness is the name of the game
12:52 PM
@Neal_Daedalus
You hold yourself to a slightly higher standard than what you’re capable of achieving
1:00 PM
@Neal_Daedalus
#3
2 hours of cocaine in the sauna
1:00 PM
@GrimGriz
see if it works for God too though Bee? :p
1:01 PM
@AT_Shipley
everything in moderation...
1:01 PM
@Neal_Daedalus
#3
It’s called a full body cleanse
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32:00 An official moral system is crucial.
34:00 The room isn't ready.
Who are these "dangerous groups of people"? Name them so I have the opportunity to respond to your accusations without being unceremoniously removed. Are they criminals and terrorists or are they just a bunch of YouTuber who do not share your interests and concerns? Are dissidents not allowed in America without being called "dangerous groups of people"?
1:02:00 Megan is braver than Brett.
