11:39 AM
@MarcInTbilisi
#3
If everything is your fault, you're in charge.
11:40 AM
@MarcInTbilisi
#3
yes @chrishoward8473
11:41 AM
@LoricaSancta
taj mahal was a product of colonialism funnily enough
11:43 AM
@OOOTLAM
@MarcInTbilisi God if He exists is big enough to take the blame for everything and indeed wants causation attributed to Him.
11:43 AM
@MarcInTbilisi
#3
interesting @OOOTLAM , let me ponder this.
11:44 AM
@OOOTLAM
@MarcInTbilisi This is confirmed in Isaiah 45:7.
11:44 AM
@everettvroon
#1
it's a little early for left brain diatribes Claire
11:46 AM
@OOOTLAM
@everettvroon How was what I said a diatribe? I was just responding to @MarcInTbilisi
11:46 AM
@MarcInTbilisi
Bald white guys? None of them round these parts.
11:47 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@FungsiYukHunPo They are now being encouraged to think of "spirits" which they will easily attach the adjective of "evil". Soon they will start burning witches again.
11:48 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Boomer blaming is quite the thing now.
11:48 AM
@MarcInTbilisi
Bald white guys aren't moved by adverts, this is well known.
11:49 AM
@MarcInTbilisi
adverts are mostly aimed at 20 somethings
11:51 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Zoomers hate boomers. Sons sneer at their "Boomer Dad".They cannot mention their father without that implicit sneer and adjective. Listen to Ezra on Chad's channel.
11:52 AM
@LoricaSancta
im going to check google search after this. if "old bald white guy" doesnt result in your video hitting number 1 then the algo is failing
11:52 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Zoomers, probably because they hate their fathers, become understandably antinatalist fearing the hatred of their own offspring.
11:53 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
I think zoomers hate boomers because they refuse to acknowledge their political concerns.
11:53 AM
@βρεττς
I feel like I should get on because I’m entering the category of old white bald guy
11:53 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@βρεττς You're Gen X.
11:54 AM
@βρεττς
Yes
11:54 AM
@βρεττς
I just look good for my age wink
11:54 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
AA is one of the many unofficial religions of America.
11:54 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
"Clueless boomers" has a ring to it.
11:55 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
Hi, my name is Stef and I’m a SINNER
11:55 AM
@βρεττς
Nobody’s taking that bait
11:55 AM
@LoricaSancta
"through my faults, through my faults, / mea culpa, mea maxima culpa
11:55 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
To be respectably Christian, you have to be Trinitarian.
11:55 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
I was just streaming about how Americans can tidy up their room, if anyone's interested.
11:56 AM
@βρεττς
The point of the Beatitudes is no one can live up to it. Hence the need for a savior. And non-Christians I don’t think are a good judge as to who Christians are.
11:56 AM
@Eolson-helper
Hi, I am Olson, and I’m a sinner (right before I submitted this, I see that Stefanie beat me to it. But it’s true none the less).
11:57 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@FungsiYukHunPo The problem with Christians is that they refuse to think outside Christianity and acknowledge its burned and bloody history. I doubt that they believe in the afterlife.
11:58 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@βρεττς The Beatitudes are like campaign promises. After 2000 years, you would have thought someone would notice.
11:58 AM
@βρεττς
Those two didn’t get what you meant. I did LMFAO.
11:58 AM
@everettvroon
#2
Nice try at ragebait Claire
11:59 AM
@βρεττς
Tunji make hair mogging great again
11:59 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@everettvroon Which comment?
11:59 AM
@βρεττς
Lolcowing
12:00 PM
@βρεττς
Rob and Claire are completely disjointed from the TLC
12:00 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@FungsiYukHunPo The last three global empires have been Christian.
12:00 PM
@chrishoward8473
Brett... but here they are, so not completely
12:01 PM
@βρεττς
Yeah, just in mind not in spirit
12:02 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@chrishoward8473 Brett does like every TLC YouTuber to be comfortable for him.
12:02 PM
@βρεττς
The point of a flotilla is there’s many boats. If one sinks, another one comes alongside and rescues.
12:02 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@βρεττς Why do you say that?
12:03 PM
@βρεττς
Did you ever look up chaos agent?
12:03 PM
@βρεττς
Mark, be careful
12:03 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
TLC is an online community of people who consider themselves middle class, educated and "sensible", whatever that means. They would see themselves as capable of discussing theology and philosophy.
12:04 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@βρεττς Is that your new and different way of saying "evil spirit"?
12:05 PM
@βρεττς
I believe I’m seen perfect in the Father‘s eyes because of the imputation of Christ. But that’s my tradition.
12:05 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
No one is perfect but God.
12:05 PM
@βρεττς
I asked if you looked it up Claire
12:06 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
No one can understand the Trinity and remain Christian.
12:06 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@βρεττς It just means agent of chaos. I do not accept that label.
12:06 PM
@βρεττς
It means more than that. Google it.
12:07 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@FungsiYukHunPo People who reject TLM should be automatically excluded.
12:08 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@βρεττς I do not accept that I spread chaos, unless you regard TLM as chaotic to your echo chamber.
12:08 PM
@βρεττς
If you’re constantly pushing people towards an idealistic agenda in a space that typically doesn’t want to be co-opted. That’s a good tell like in poker.
12:09 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@βρεττς Feel free to do a stream about that, and feel free to give me the right to reply, which you probably won't.
12:09 PM
@everettvroon
#2
Claire some of us are in the corner for friendship, not unwinnable logical arguments.
12:09 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@βρεττς What is so idealistic about my agenda?
12:10 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@everettvroon What is an example of an "unwinnable logical argument"?
12:10 PM
@βρεττς
Psychologists have actually studied this as a distinct behavioral trait. People with a high need for chaos often share traits with the "Dark Tetrad"(psychopathy, narcissism, Machiavellianism, sadism)
12:11 PM
@everettvroon
#2
I decline to do battle with you Claire.
12:12 PM
@βρεττς
I got the Armor of God on EJ🤣🤣
12:12 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@everettvroon I genuinely want to know what you mean by an unwinnable logical argument.
12:12 PM
@everettvroon
#2
I'll turn off the chat and listen to this worthwhile conversation.
12:15 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
I am accustomed to being the victim of vague accusations that my accusers refuse to substantiate.
12:15 PM
@chrishoward8473
@Fun But has it? When the Anglicans sent missionaries to Africa, then now the Africans carry on that tradition separate from the brits... is that a failure?
12:15 PM
@βρεττς
Oh, you’re the victim? I get it.
12:16 PM
@chrishoward8473
Hubris, yes, logs of hubris that part I can agree with
12:16 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@βρεττς Why do you think TLM is chaotic?
12:17 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@chrishoward8473 Are you referring to GAFCON?
12:18 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@FungsiYukHunPo We must give ex-alcoholics some latitude.
12:18 PM
@βρεττς
Because you say your TLM is Truth, logic, and morality. And some of those categories, I would disagree that you have them actually figured out.
12:18 PM
@βρεττς
Isn’t that a debate fallacy you’re attempting? Just asking for a friend
12:19 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Can someone sum up whatTunji was saying?
12:19 PM
@βρεττς
You haven’t been listening
12:19 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@βρεττς Yet you refuse to argue.
12:19 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@βρεττς I actually rewound, but I won't do it a third time.
12:19 PM
@βρεττς
Yes, I can’t believe I’m siding with Jay Dyer. He always calls people out on all the debate fallacies they use and it annoys me. But yet here it is.
12:20 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@βρεττς What are my debate fallacies?
12:20 PM
@βρεττς
You touch on almost all of them
12:20 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@βρεττς Jay Dyer is popular with white nationalists.
12:20 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@βρεττς Surely you can particularlise my alleged fallacies?
12:21 PM
@FungsiYukHunPo
Claire, I agree, the TLC cult perceive me as a threat because I don't repeat PVK talking points, yet I am attacked here more than I attack. simply expressing my thoughts scares them silly 😜
12:22 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@FungsiYukHunPo We are not hug box material!
12:22 PM
@βρεττς
Ad Hominem, strawman, Red Herring, Two Wrongs Make a Right, Begging the Question,False Dilemma…
12:23 PM
@FungsiYukHunPo
that's the irony, is i am quite cuddly but not a pacifist
12:23 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@βρεττς How have I been guilty of any of these? Just do a stream and list all my fallacies.
12:24 PM
@βρεττς
Equivocation, Faulty Causality, Slippery Slope and your favorite Hasty Generalization
12:24 PM
@FungsiYukHunPo
my mother was a hippie and father a soldier
12:24 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
I think Tunji is having a crisis of faith. But he should not despair because there is more than one Abrahamic religion.
12:25 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@βρεττς You can make a list but you need to substantiate your accusations.
12:25 PM
@YawnGod
@OOOTLAM So optimistic 🤔
12:25 PM
@βρεττς
If you don’t see you, don’t see
12:26 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@βρεττς All accusations need to be substantiated for a fair conviction. You are not a fair man, are you? Your prioriity is your hug box.
12:26 PM
@βρεττς
You can do a live stream after this and go through each one of the fallacies and do self evaluation if you want.
12:27 PM
@FungsiYukHunPo
PVK makes materialist argument around what is "real" while pretending no one observers his logs
12:28 PM
@βρεττς
Fun it must be so nice to see so clearly
12:29 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@βρεττς I know what those words mean, but I do not see how I am guilty of them and invite you to give further and better particulars of your claims.
12:29 PM
@βρεττς
This chat, Thunderdome has been quite entertaining this morning.
12:30 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@FungsiYukHunPo PVK utters heresies all the time but is probably right that no one will ever notice or question him.
12:30 PM
@βρεττς
I probably wouldn’t get past the first one before you’d be guilty of the red herring fallacy
12:30 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@βρεττς I look forward to reading your charge sheet.
12:31 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
If one believes Christ victory is complete, would it not reconcile all of creation to God? Why the fear of universalism?
12:31 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@stefaniecristos8514 Because it is not fair.
12:31 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
Doesn’t that diminish the Good News (gospel)?
12:31 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
Correct, Claire
12:32 PM
@βρεττς
I think some expand the definition of gospel Stef. Some believe and expand it all the way beyond his death resurrection and atonement. They expanded it to theological secondary issues.
12:32 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Christians have to think that only Christians get to heaven. Jews at least say righteous gentiles not guilty of idolatry get to heaven along with righteous Jews.
12:32 PM
@FungsiYukHunPo
white supremacy fallacy = meaning crisis
12:33 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@stefaniecristos8514 A God of Perfect Justice would not be unfair. Therefore He would punish the wicked and reward the good.
58:00 Being "separated from God" is a red herring. We just want good to be rewarded and evil punished in this life and the next. Only if we believe in the afterlife and that the Abrahamic God exists to administer justice would it be logical for us to believe that good will be rewarded and evil punished, measure for measure.
