If you believed in the Abrahamic God, why wouldn't you obey His laws?

Vincent Bruno says he has my problems too. 

https://radicalisedrabbi.blogspot.com/2026/10/vincent-bruno-on-theodicy-reincarnation.html

2:00  The tactic of non-engagement

3:00  Venturing into hostile territory to propagate SK USA

4:00  How long can this go on?

5:00  Avoiding pseuds

6:00  https://radicalisedrabbi.blogspot.com/2026/10/why-game-of-thrones-replaced-dallas.html

7:00  What is the attraction of Luke Thompson's streams?

9:00  Steve Skojec the Islamophobe

@SteveSkojec Is something evil just because you call it so?

— OOOTLAM/Operating Only On Truth, Logic & Morality (@Book_of_Rules) September 28, 2026

https://www.youtube.com/@TheMTSPodcast 

10:00  PVK only promotes Islamophobes and Christian mediocrities

https://www.livingstonescrc.com/events/sacramento-estuary-conference-2026/2026-10-16

13:00  If you believe in God, nothing's random. 

Protestants don't  make the distinction between mortal and venial sins.

14:00  Felony and misdemeanour

15:00  Vincent Bruno's agnosticism

16:00  Organised religions are the Abrahamic religions.

17:00  Greater compliance with the rules of marriage in a patriarchy

19:00  Mark Parker

https://radicalisedrabbi.blogspot.com/2026/10/why-is-it-very-cynical-move-to-remind.html

20:00  Shari

https://radicalisedrabbi.blogspot.com/2026/10/deliberately-vague-questions-by.html

25:00  Choosing the religion of your parents in your next life once you realise Jesus is not God

27:00  Nathan Ormond

28:00  God made laws for us to obey.

Monster God

29:00  God if He exists is not going to conform to Mark's and other liberals' standards of justice and morality. 

God is love according to Christian Universalism. 

30:00  Bums on pews

31:00  Chad just wants a social club and a friendly society. 

32:00  Sunday social club

33:00  American Association of National Noahide Social Clubs

34:00  Abstract ideas

36:00  Narratives

37:00  Keyboard Army

Jess Purviance

38:00  Estuary Protocols not necessary for men with close friends.

39:00  Fake debate about authenticity and sincerity

40:00  PVK is promoting Bonnie Kristian  - the latest hot chick in the corner

41:00  Christian YouTube is talking about nonsense and arguing about it. 

42:00  PVK refuses to discuss foreign policy.

43:00  Where does Mark Parker gets his moral standards from?

44:00  The monarchical and egalitarian Trinity

45:00  Trinitarian absurdity

46:00  Sam Tideman

47:00  Unitarian Christians avoid me. 

https://www.youtube.com/@transfigured3673

49:00  Christianity and Islam are based on the Torah. 

50:00  Christians treat the Old Testament like a cushion and the New Testament the buttocks of Jesus. 

"My father and I are one."

51:00  The New Covenant which must be the Koran is mentioned in the Book of Jeremiah. 

52:00  A car is not a vegetable. 

53:00  The Founding Fathers read Edward Gibbon's History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire

55:00  The spiritual benefits of having a logical belief system

56:00  The Koran gives us more rights and fewer capital offences.

57:00  How can Jesus have created the Universe?

58:00  Theocracy

Names of God

59:00  Cynical move to use God's laws?

1:00:00  Monster God rejected by Mark Parker

1:01:00  Islamophobes refusing to read the Koran

1:03:00  The Creation was an act of divine love.

https://clairekhaw.substack.com/p/what-does-secular-koranism-have-to?r=8t05d&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true

Why is it a "very cynical move" to remind Christians that the Abrahamic God made laws for us to follow?

33:00  Emunah and Bitachon is not voodoo.

44:40

@OOOTLAM

​​God if He exists does not disappear just because you no longer believe in Him.

46:58

@OOOTLAM

​​@williambranch4283 Only Christians think God looks like Jesus.

47:56

@OOOTLAM

​​Maybe it is time for a correct understanding of God. It's not that hard, it really isn't.

48:23

@williambranch4283

​​Correct in human terms? Color me skeptical.

48:43

@OOOTLAM

​​@williambranch4283 Correct in absolute terms.

49:06

@williambranch4283

​​The god of authoritarian puritanical politics?

49:30

@williambranch4283

​​What is the absolute? Are you Buddha?

49:46

@OOOTLAM

​​@williambranch4283 God is totalitarian, isn't He?

51:03

@OOOTLAM

​​@williambranch4283 It should be obvious that those who want to correctly worship the Abrahamic God who forbade idolatry should avoid idolatry. Why is that so hard to understand?

52:04

@OOOTLAM

​​@williambranch4283 There are only two religions that forbid idolatry.

52:41

@stefaniecristos8514

​​Secular Koranism sure seems like your idol, Claire.

53:15

@OOOTLAM

​​@stefaniecristos8514 It's just a legal system that uncompromsingly supports the First Amendment.

54:49

@OOOTLAM

​​What is Nathan saying? All these words!

55:26

@OOOTLAM

​​I have already asked my questions.

55:47

@OOOTLAM

​​What does Mark expect faith to deliver?

57:29

@OOOTLAM

​​TLC is stuffed with heretics pretending to be Christian.

58:56

@OOOTLAM

​​I would join if I knew what we are supposed to be discussing. I can't just talk for ages about nothing in particular.

1:02:52

@OOOTLAM

​​Again I ask: what is Nathan talking about?

1:03:24

@rickcosci

​​Yes, he deconstructed the status quo..go into your closet

1:04:02

@OOOTLAM

​​@rickcosci What did Nathan say to deconstruct the status quo?

1:05:02

@OOOTLAM

​​Nobody can sum up what Nathan saying then?

1:05:11

@roderickhare

​​I know Nathan mostly by his reputation. I am genuinely enjoying his thoughtful exploration of this subject. Clearly someone who has paid close attention to the example of this man Jesus.

1:05:39

@OOOTLAM

​​@roderickhare So what is Nathan saying?

1:06:46

@OOOTLAM

​​Everyone is talking nonsense, it would appear. And no one can sum up what Nathan is saying?

1:07:39

@OOOTLAM

​​I really think I am concentrating, but I really have no idea what Nathan is saying.

1:08:02

@OOOTLAM

​​Now we are talking about Marxism?

1:08:21

@OOOTLAM

​​What is very important to pursuing justice?

1:08:27

@OOOTLAM

​​Nobody can remember.

1:08:42

@roderickhare

​​If you squint, what Jesus seemed to hate the most was hypocrisy and self-righteousness.

1:09:17

@OOOTLAM

​​@roderickhare Christian hypocrisy is unsurpassed

1:09:59

@OOOTLAM

​​Non sequitur after non sequtur.

1:11:41

@OOOTLAM

​​@Smithistory Politics is about government, morality, law, narratives and values.

1:14:00

@OOOTLAM

​​@Smithistory Our laws need to be based on a moral system. Moral systems are religions.

1:14:38

@OOOTLAM

​​If we were being rational, we would choose the best religion for our group.

1:15:04

@OOOTLAM

​​America does not have a functioning moral system but Americans don't seem to want one.

1:20:52

@OOOTLAM

​​Christmas is just Saturnalia a pagan winter festival. Under SK USA Jewish festivals would be celebrated and the Jewish calendar used.

1:21:46

@OOOTLAM

​​Under SK USA things would make sense and people would express themselves clearly. Schoolchildren would learn grammar.

1:25:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins. 

1:26:00  The problem of evil

1:27:00  Just because someone enjoys wealth and power does not necessarily mean they will go to heaven.

1:29:00  The Book of Job articulates the problem of evil ie theodicy.

1:30:00  Suffering is punishment for sin or a trial.

"Monster God"

1:31:00  Are the Abrahamic religions about being guided by divine revelation or pretending you worship Jesus?

1:33:00  Christians can speak any heresy and no one cares. 

1:36:00  If you believe in God, why wouldn't you obey His laws?

1:37:00  "Iran is doing OK."

1:38:00  "Random villages in Vietnam"

1:40:00  "Abraham could have been a schizophrenic for all we know!"

"There's two [Abrahamic Gods]!"

There is no textual or historical basis in mainstream biblical scholarship or Jewish, Christian, and Islamic traditions for the claim that two different gods were involved in the story of Abraham and Isaac. [1]

What the Biblical Text Actually Says (Genesis 22)

• The Command: In Genesis 22:2, "God" (Elohim) tests Abraham by telling him to offer his son Isaac as a burnt offering. [1, 2]
• The Intervention: In Genesis 22:11–12, "the Angel of the Lord" (Malak YHWH) calls out from heaven and stops Abraham, saying not to harm the boy because the test of faith is complete. [1, 3, 4]
• The Identity: In classical theology and narrative structure, the Angel of the Lord is not a second, competing deity, but a messenger or manifestation of the same single God (YHWH / Elohim) who issued the initial command. [1]

Why People Might Misinterpret the Story

• Distinct Voices/Personas: Some readers interpret the transition from a harsh demand for sacrifice to a merciful cancellation as a psychological or moral contradiction, leading some modern commentators to rhetorically ask if God was "only joking" or testing boundaries. [5, 6]
• Distinction Between Gods and Cultures: Scholars note that the story actually serves the opposite purpose—it contrasts the single God of Abraham with surrounding Canaanite or pagan deities who routinely demanded child sacrifice (such as Molech), showing that the God of Israel rejects human sacrifice and provides a substitute ram. [7, 8, 9]
• Gnostic or Alternative Views: Minor, fringe esoteric or gnostic traditions sometimes split the Old Testament creator God (the Demiurge) from a higher god of mercy, but this is a later philosophical imposition rather than anything derived from the plain text of Genesis 22.

Would you like to explore how different religious traditions (Jewish, Christian, or Islamic) interpret the meaning of the Binding of Isaac?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org

[2] https://www.reddit.com

[3] https://www.youtube.com

[4] https://www.desiringgod.org

[5] https://www.thegospelcoalition.org

[6] https://www.reddit.com

[7] https://www.reddit.com

[8] https://defendinginerrancy.com

[9] https://www.quora.com

https://share.google/aimode/5oFDkDaLoq5RphZ73

1:42:00  What is the plot?

1:43:00  PAUL ALYN interrupts with Psalm 105 and 106.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%20105-106&version=NIV

1:52:00  Why is it a "very cynical move" to infer that God (if indeed He does exist) who made laws for us expects us to obey them?

2:04:00  Picking on me again.

2:07:00  Paul Alyn supporting the law and me!

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Peter%201%3A5-7&version=NIV

2:11:00  Church discipline

2:12:00  Godliness and virtue

2:29:00  There are three kinds of Christians:

1) Cultural Christians

2) Believing Christians

3)  Christian Nationalists

2:34:00  Are Christians really so confident that Curses for Disobedience in Deuteronomy 28 do not apply to them?

2:35:00  Karen Armstrong

Why Game of Thrones replaced Dallas, Dynasty and Falcon Crest

33:00  Ruling class

Mainstream media

Legacy media

34:00  New York Times

Authenticity and sincerity

36:00  Mexican food

37:00  Profilicity

38:00  Gaylord Mueler

41:00  Right brain left brain

42:00  Iain McGilchrist

45:00  Secular Koranism

Method acting

46:00  Aztecs

47:00  US foreign policy

48:00  Ruling class

49:00  A pleasing ruling class

50:00  Flexible morals

51:00  Consensus 

53:00  The Meaning Crisis

54:00  Caught short

56:00  Bears in Mississippi

57:00  Alligator hunting

1:04:00  Secular Koranism

1:05:00  Proposals and ideas exist

1:06:00  Western values

I am actually concerned about the West in that it does not have a functioning moral system. The religion of the West is not really Christianity, is it? It is actually liberal democracy because Christendom - a portmanteau word for "a Europe  of Christian kingdoms" - ended in 1918. I say this because three of the Great Powers ie the Austrian Empire, the German Empire and the Russian Empire became republics. While the Austrian and German Emperors both abdicated, the entire Russian Royal Family were exterminated by the Red Guards.

My thesis is that the moral and political operating system of the West is not even Christianity any more but liberal democracy.

I fear Western governments have not tidied up their rooms of political theory in centuries and now don't want to have a real dialogue about it. 

That is because they do not want US citizens knowing where the complete list of their unalienable rights is to be found or arguing with their ruling classes about anything at all.  

As for Muslims, sadly, they do not appreciate the difference between being a monarchy and being a constitutional republic. 

But then neither do the British or the Israelis. 

1:07:00  Iran

1:08:00  Sunni and Shia divide

1:09:00  WW1 and WW2

Nicholas II was refused asylum by George V.

1:10:00  Ra Ra Rasputin

1:11:00  Christendom ended in 1918.

1:12:00  Downton Abbey

Dynasty, Dallas and Falcon Crest

1:13:00  Game of  Thrones

1:14:00  Arrested Development

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrested_Development

1:15:00  Soap operas like Peyton Place

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyton_Place_(TV_series)

Vincent Bruno on theodicy, reincarnation and the social problems caused by bad parenting

1:00  Anyone can change, according to his experience as a Jehovah's Witnesses.

13:00  Vincent is glad he was never Trinitarian.

What does logos even mean for Trinitarians when the Trinity is so absurd?

15:00  Jehovah's Witnesses are supposed to avoid highfaluting philosophy.

17:00  Rich JW's two children disfellowshipped

21:00  NPD and neologisms

22:00  New names for the consequences of bad parenting

24:00  Over-diagnosis and neologisms

25:00  Our Tower of Babel

26:00  Vincente is the most straight-talking American I know.

27:00  Mental health issues and depression

28:00  Jehovah's Witnesses are encouraged to pray often. 

31:00  Algorithms

32:00  YouTube friends or displays of friends

34:00  Substack

35:00  Mad, silly or evil?

36:00  It's important to say things out loud.

37:00  How we grow

38:00  The determinants of status are nebulous and uncertain. 

39:00  Brevity and clarity needs to be repeated 100 x before people understand. 

40:00  Censorship

41:00  Life is word game. 

Rectification of Names

42:00  Jews and their recidivism

Idolatry

43:00  Divine revelation

Chicken Little

44:00  Allegories and fables

45:00  Adam and Eve

46:00  Adam was led astray by his rib. 

47:00  The First Man and Woman could have been evolved.  

48:00  Belief in the afterlife

49:00  Sadducees didn't believe in the afterlife.

50:00  Compliance is higher in adherents of the Abrahamic religions.

51:00  Mortal sin

52:00  Venial sin

Jehovah's Witnesses are annihilitationists.

53:00  Manicheaism

55:00  God is Creator of good and evil. 

56:00  God's will

57:00  When bad things happen

58:00  Jews are supposed to thank God for suffering. 

Isaiah 45:7

59:00  Reincarnation

1:00:00  Poor people are supposed to think rich people are more likely to be tempted into sin so they don't envy them. Rich people are supposed to be kind to poor people to earn brownie points for heaven. 

1:01:00  Generous Hindu woman was told her suffering was bad karma.

1:02:00  Rich people problems

Theodicy - the problem of evil

1:03:00  The Book of Job

1:04:00  Nobody is protected from suffering. 

1:05:00  Social programmes

Would people feel happier if they were told that their suffering is caused by random chance?

1:06:00  Social services

1:07:00  Communism and Socialism

1:09:00  Social policies to prevent social problems

1:10:00  Never married parents, bad parenting and bad partner selection

1:11:00  Government spending

1:12:00  Preventing homelessness

Changing the culture of unstable relationships

1:13:00  Birth control

Working class

1:14:00  Marriage

1:15:00  Better partner selection

1:16:00  Polygamy

1:17:00  Communal child rearing

1:18:00  Family responsibilities

1:19:00  Jehovah's Witnesses is a close knit community

1:21:00  Stigmatising divorce

1:23:00  Americans don't live in villages.

1:25:00  Creating marriageable men and women

1:26:00  Prince was Jehovah's Witness.

1:27:00  Ambiguity

Refusing to say that representative democracy is the problem

 

3:00  Our access to our grandparents and parents

8:00  Lawfare

9:00  Islamic finance after repenting of usury would turn the red button green.

10:00  Faith in God

17:00  The countries that most persecute Christians are African countries with valuable resources Western imperialists want to loot who see Christians as evidence of Western imperialism.

18:00  The Chinese who want spirituality choose Christianity because they prefer not to give up pork and gambling.

25:00  Vested interests

26:00  We must be mindful of people trying to waste our time and distract us with BS ideas like authenticity, sincerity, profilicity etc.

31:00  Good is what God commands, evil what He forbids. That's how we know what we are supposed to do.

32:00  Deliberately confusing jargon: What a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive.

39:00  God is divine law, but most people calling themselves Christian are functionally atheist - even if they remember to keep saying Jesus a lot - and don't give a damn about God's laws. 

To say God is neither logical and moral is surely blasphemy.

56:00  Chad probably just wants to be a member of a friendly society. My  proposal for an American Association of National Noahide Clubs should fill the gap in the market without requiring Americans to believe Jesus is God which is offensive to Americans who find the idea absurd, as Thomas Jefferson did. 

59:00  The problem is matriarchy, but you won't say it because the word is still new and niche. The problem of the matriarchy can be solved by restoring the patriarchy, but you are too afraid of your wife to say that, probably. I have a few ideas about how to make that point in a reasonable and morally satisfying way, but you have blocked me from joining your streams as well as disabled me from commenting under my primary account. 

Perhaps you want to get there in your own sweet time, which is why you prefer to platform people who say they don't know rather than hear it from me who says she does. 

Sexual politics

https://t.co/b5OIwbpVG4

— Real Vincent Bruno (@RealVinBruno) October 5, 2026

16:00  Antisemitism is a sacred belief to antisemites.

17:00  Dietary restrictions in Acts 16 written by Luke/

18:00  Noahide Congress rejects Trinitarianism as Noahide. 

22:00  Christian creeds are the most unbelievable and high maintenance. 

24:00  Heresy tolerated.

25:00  13 Principles of Judaism

27:00  Unofficial religions

Wasn't Nazism the state religion of the Nazis?

"Synagogue of Satan"

28:00  Beliefs change

29:00  Interest in the Noahide laws seems to be a barometer of antisemitism. 

31:00  Israel is an American colony. 

32:00  Israelis have killed their own working class. 

Vincent thinks Jews are smart because they are have killed their own working class and now have to hire Hindu idolaters. 

33:00  God if He exists is above Jews who are above Chabad who specialise in engaging with gentiles. 

Vincent gets angry when I accuse him of being atheist. 

34:00  I don't have to believe in God to understand that those who did believe in God would take His laws seriously. 

36:00  Two States in Israel

37:00  Vincent deliberately does not make the distinction between righteous and unrighteous Jews.

"Most Jews are too smart to follow their religious principles".

39:00  A distinction should be made between righteous Jews and heretical Jews.  

41:00  The Noahide Congress rejects Trinitarians as Noahide. 

42:00  Fake Christians

43:00  Refraining from murder, theft and rape is common to all law abiding Americans. Christians commit blasphemy every time they pray to Jesus breaking the Third Principle of Judaism. 

Sexual immorality

45:00  Age of consent

46:00  Adultery is considered a criminal offence in some states.

Statutory rape

47:00  Sodomy began to be legalised from 1960s.

Vincent claims most married men have sex with other men. 

48:00  Cornell 7

50:00  Public decency offences

51:00  Polygamy

53:00  Under Secular Koranism, men cannot be openly gay. 

54:00  The Noahide laws forbid sexual immorality. 

55:00  Increasing the birth rate by supporting marriage

Sexual liberation and sexual restrictions

56:00  Sexual liberation has not helped with mental health issues and seems to be increasing them.

Valuing life is better than not valuing life. 

57:00  Logan's Run

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-11611095/Canadian-doctor-whos-euthanized-400-says-helped-kill-man-deemed-incapable-choosing-suicide.html

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16152435/canada-euthanasia-assisted-suicide-grandmother.html

1:00:00  Vincent: "Women would love to be married to bisexual men!" He gets this idea from watching porn "There's tons of pornography like that."

1:02:00  Vincent changed his philosophy of life and is happier now. 

1:04:00  Political activist

Belief in God as a personality type

1:05:00 Belief in God is actually logical if you want the benefits of spirituality ie belief that God will reward good and punish evil in this life and the next.

The personality type of people prepared to obey God's laws should be described as honest, rational and moral. 

1:06:00  Why is Vincent pretending not to take Jews and Muslims seriously when he is always talking about them and their religion?

1:09:00  Religions of divine revelation are more powerful than religions without divine revelation. 

1:10:00  The subject of sex  ie who is allowed to have sex and children has always been a very political issue. 

Claire Khaw is the Norm MacDonald of religious conversation

  

12:36 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#1

​Christianity defended the divine right of kings. Liberalism was liberation against the tyranny of absolute monarchs.

12:36 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#1

​PVK does make a point of promoting Islamophobia.

12:37 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#1

​Most Muslims are too dumb to understand the difference between republic and monarchy.

12:38 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#1

​But do most Westerners understand the difference between a republic and monarchy? Curtis Yarvin is promoting monarchy.

12:40 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#1

​The Yin Yang symbol - an ancient Chinese symbol - is evidence of an ancient people unable to get gender relations right.

12:41 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#1

​The point is that the Koran gives spouses the right to divorce.

12:42 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#1

​I don't think Christians care about the origins of divorce. They only know to be hypocritical about sex. Islam is legalistic.

12:42 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#1

​For centuries,, Christians thought divorce is as bad as adultery - a mortal sin.

12:46 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#1

​Now we have to define idolatry - which is the point of Mark's stream - is he divine?

12:47 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#1

​If you care about the afterlife, you would have to take idolatry seriously.

12:47 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#1

​Henry II threatened to convert to Islam. Not many people know that.

12:48 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#1

​Hypocrisy is a mortal sin.

12:49 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#1

​According to the Koran, hypocrisy is a mortal sin. That is what makes the Koran a much more sophisticated document than the Torah. Islamophobes won't agree.

12:50 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#1

​The West is dying of atheism, nihilism and hypocrisy - all these Jews, Christians and Muslims who are supposed to worship God who forbade idolatry.

12:51 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#1

​Hypocrites calling themselves Jews and Muslims are no better than actual idolaters.