Showing posts with label shura. Show all posts
Showing posts with label shura. Show all posts

Sunday, 27 September 2020

How to get lockdown lifted using the Koran

If Covid-19 came from God, who would He be punishing? 

Sinning Jews and sinning gentiles.


Who would be the sinning Jews?

Anyone guilty of the 36 capital offences of the Old Testament.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/judaism/jewishethics/capital.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_capital_crimes_in_the_Torah


So Jews guilty of these capital offences would be sentenced to death? Seems a bit harsh.


If Jewish standards of behaviour are too high for these errant Jews, they could convert to Islam and/or support Secular Koranism.

https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/96RQWJV.

http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2014/05/secular-koranism.html


What about Christianity? 

That is not from God, but some guys called Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul etc.


So they would have to support Secular Koranism to escape the death penalty?

Yes. There is no other divine revelation for gentiles from the Abrahamic God who divided humanity into Jews and gentiles having first revealed the Torah to Jews and then the Koran to gentiles. The Koran guarantees freedom of belief with quran.com/2/256 so it would be unIslamic to forcibly convert anyone to Islam.


So they can support Secular Koranism as Jews and not have to convert to Islam?

That is exactly the idea.  


Do Muslims support Secular Koranism?

Most of them haven't heard of it.


Why should Jews support Secular Koranism if Muslims do not?

Because I anticipate Muslims would call my new school of sharia of Secular Koranism illegitimate, since I am agnostic and not Muslim.  


If you are agnostic, why you are you asking questions as if you thought God exists?

Because I can imagine what someone who believes in God would believe and fear if He thought Covd-19 was divine punishment. 


Does the Koran provide a solution to the pandemic?

Yes, the process of consultation called shura.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shura


How would shura/consultation solve the problem of lockdown?

The government would consult business organisations and trade unions about whether to lift lockdown, businesses and trade unions would consult their members, members would vote on it, and if both employers and employees agree to lift lockdown, it would be lifted. Can't say fairer than that, can you?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-support-from-business-representative-organisations-and-trade-associations

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/public-list-of-active-trade-unions-official-list-and-schedule/trade-unions-the-current-list-and-schedule

Wednesday, 12 August 2020

Israeli attitudes to lockdown both religious and secular



0:01  Josh's Covid-19 conspiracy theory
2:00  The matriarchy can't make up its mind.
3:00  Bill Gates and his vaccine
4:00  Every Monday and Thursday: the only thing we can be sure of is that there will be change.

5:00  When we cannot see the way ahead clearly and are given a variety of conflicting views, we must choose which preference to prioritise for sound and moral reasons.

6:00 



7:00  The Knesset
8:00  Masking
9:00  Post-Modern liberalism and the nanny state that is the matriarchy
10:00  Critical thinking and conspiracy theories
11:00  Voting in Israel is pointless. Lottery
12:00  Theocracy
13:00  Atheism
14:00  Black Death
15:00  The Swedes and Estonians not going with the crowd. Boris Johnson's initial decision for herd immunity was the correct one.
16:00  China
17:00  Censorship
18:00  Foreigners in China
19:00  The Noahide laws
20:00  Jesuits
21:00  Applying Heidegger to Jews about living authentically as a Jew
https://radicalisedrabbi.blogspot.com/2018/08/applying-heidegger-to-judaism.html
22:00  Martin Luther King
23:00  Greek ideas
24:00  Curt Doolittle


25:00  Atheist morality and principles
26:00  Evil
28:00  Observant Jews v Secular Jews
29:00  Post-Modern Liberalism
30:00  Religions are stronger and longer than secular political ideologies.
31:00  The Ten Commandments and the rule of law
32:00  Civilisations fail when they break their own rules
33:00  Jordan Peterson
34:00  The Power of One and the Mandate of Heaven
35:00  Plato's ideal forms
36:00  Liberal democracy v the one-party state
37:00  Jews set and uphold standards
38:00  Chief Rabbis are waiting for the Messiah to come so they don't have to make difficult decisions.
39:00  Light unto the nations
40:00  The mistakes of Jewish prophets

41:00  Secular Koranism is about shortening the period of chaos between matriarchy and patriarchy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_(Asimov_novel)#%22The_Encyclopedists%22_2

The true purpose of the Foundation is to form one nucleus of a Second Galactic Empire and shorten the predicted period of chaos to a mere thousand years, rather than thirty thousand years.

42:00  We must know what our principles so we are not misled and misguided.

43:00  The purpose of the media is to facilitate consultation ie shura
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shura

44:00  Stefan Molyneux on how theocracy could be libertarian and result in a minimal state:
http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2017/01/should-law-conform-to-morality-and-if.html 

Molyneux's Universally Preferable Behaviour is in fact proto-Noahide.
http://cdn.media.freedomainradio.com/feed/books/UPB/Universally_Preferable_Behaviour_UPB_by_Stefan_Molyneux_PDF.pdf

45:00  Idolatry includes allowing anything that strays away from the Noahide laws to take hold in our thoughts, speech and actions. 

48:00  The Koran is in harmony with the Big Bang
https://www.miracles-of-quran.com/big_bang_crunch.htm

50:00  The need for marriage is as eternal as Man.

51:00  Stigmatising those who do not practise marriage to protect the practice of marriage.

52:00  Adolescence

53:00  Secondary schools should be single sex.

54:00  Tudor childhood
http://authorherstorianparent.blogspot.com/2012/08/what-was-it-like-to-be-child-in-tudor.html

55:00  Arrested adolescence and Josh's friend who was married when he was 18 and a father by 20.

56:00  Why White Nationalists won't support restoring the patriarchy

57:00  Christianity suffers from a defective scripture.

58:00  White Nationalists are like the outcasts of the Hindu caste system expecting to be elected into office in India.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-35650616

59:00  Even the anti-immigration anti-establishment parties don't understand their own class system or dare not tell these outcasts who are not even fit for work as unskilled labourers what has happened to them and why their own governments don't care about them: because they are literally good for nothing being welfare-dependent NEETs. Because it takes more than a term of office to have any success in reforming education and in particular vocational training, no government even thinks of implementing policies in education and training to make the working classes fit for work again.

1:00:00 The herring joke

1:01:00  The Jesuits and Chabad

1:03:00  The lighthouse unto the nations

1:04:00  There is no need for Jews to feel they have to agree with Islamic narratives. All they have to do is concede that Islam is the most Noahide of all gentile religions after pointing out that Christianity is the least Noahide.  

1:06:00  There is no point calling Secular Koranism anything else because it derives its intellectual and moral authority from the Koran, which is what I would need to get it adopted. If I said the principles of Secular Koranism are based on nothing more than my own original thinking, they would be rejected on the grounds that they come from a mortal and fallible woman whose intellectual and moral authority is not yet established, let alone generally acknowledged by the Western establishment. All I can realistically claim is that my interpretation of the Koran - as a legally trained but agnostic political and moral philosopher who is an ex-feminist and also an ex-liberal - is more likely to find favour in the West than the interpretation of Muslim scholars.  

1:07:00  A few suggestions from Josh as to what I could call Secular Koranism

1:08:00  The three sacred cows of the West I am proposing be slain: Christianity, democracy and feminism

1:09:00  Livy: "We can neither bear our vices nor their cure."

1:10:00  Acedia

1:11:00  Western governments want Westerners drugged because they are afraid of revolution.

1:12:00  Western governments are warehousing NEETs whom they regard as useless eaters for extinction. 

1:13:00  The Chief Rabbis of Israel

1:14:00  House arrest over Passover

1:16:00  The Chief Rabbis are neutral on lockdown.

1:17:00  "Israel is no longer a democracy." 

1:18:00  Average age of Israel is 30
Lebanon 27.9.
America 38
Britain 40.5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_median_age

1:20:00  Democracy is dementia.

1:21:00  The Golden House of Nero
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domus_Aurea

1:22:00  "The rabbinical establishment is corrupt to the core."

1:23:00 



1:24:00  Accelerationism







1:28:00  Rabbi Sternbuch
https://vosizneias.com/2020/03/23/rabbi-sternbuch-dont-to-shul-even-if-you-are-a-little-weak/

Israeli Charedi leader accuses Chief Rabbi Mirvis of ‘blasphemy’ over LGBT guide
https://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/israeli-charedi-leader-accuses-chief-rabbi-mirvis-of-blasphemy-lgbt-guide/

1:29:00  How you should feel if you get the bubonic plague
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death

Muslim religious scholars taught that the pandemic was a “martyrdom and mercy” from God, assuring the believer's place in paradise. For non-believers, it was a punishment.

1:30:00  David Bar-Hayim


1:31:00  Atheists who have made a god of their appetites and their emotions are but cattle.
https://quran.com/25/43-44
1:32:00  Atheists and nihilists
1:33:00  A hostile response is better than no response.
1:34:00  I would never make it illegal for me people to be racist because I believe in freedom of association. 
1:36:00  A better Western civilisation with Secular Koranism
1:38:00  Hypocrisy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munafiq
https://quran.com/63
1:45:00  The Noahide laws
1:46:00  The understandable reluctance of Jews to alienate the Christian Zionists of America

1:47:00  God made Jews His Chosen People chosen for the mission of Noahidising gentiles. Only when they have finally been Noahidised will they be allowed to assimilate and become Muslim without endangering their olam aba. Becoming Muslim would be their reward, for Islam is a far less restrictive religion than Judaism. Secular Koranism is the middle way between our globohomo matriarchy and the intimidating Torah theocracy religious Jews would want. Israel becoming a Koran-based theocracy would also make it more likely for Jews to acquire Greater Israel peacefully.

1:48:00  Scottish Cafe does not support restoring the patriarchy. 

1:52:00  Unprincipled atheists become extinct while those with the protective wrapper of religion who practise marriage and family values have descendants and get to keep their religious and group identity. 

Speculating about the administration of heaven

1:29:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins to discuss the sandwich method and pincer movement. 1:32:00  "The Jesus of our imaginations" 1:37:00  G...