Christian universalism means Hitler will eventually get to heaven?

https://radicalisedrabbi.blogspot.com/2026/08/the-outlaw-and-bounty-hunter-would-have.html

8:00  Different practices, values and beliefs

9:00  Education or indoctrination?

12:00  Different agendas even in the same religion.

13:00  Logic should be bounded by reason. 

14:00  Class interests

16:00  Being fair enough.

"The strong do what they will, the weak suffer as they must."

AI Overview                 

This famous line is the Melian Dialogue from The History of the Peloponnesian War by the ancient Greek historian Thucydides. It shows a harsh view of power. In this view, might makes right, and justice matters less than strength in international politics.

Context of the Quote

The Setting: The powerful city of Athens speaks to the small island of Melos during a long war.

The Demand: Athens tells Melos to surrender, pay money, and join them, or face total destruction.

The Appeal: Melos asks to stay neutral and talks about fairness, gods, and justice.

The Reply: Athens states that powerful nations always rule weaker ones, making morality useless in survival.

Core Ideas

Realism: Power is the main rule of politics.

Survival: Weak groups cannot fight strong groups without a loss.

No Morality: Right and wrong do not change the choices of strong leaders.

18:00  American Presidents do not control US foreign policy, the Deep State does. 

21:00  General Wesley Clark: "If all you have is a hammer, every problem is a nail." 

23:00   Foreign policy takes a while to play out. 

25:00  Wolfowitz Doctrine

26:00  Origins of the French Revolution

No standing army.

27:00  Multi-polar world

28:00  Korean War

UN 

29:00  Foreign policy is a specialist interest. 

CIA

30:00  Beliefs and narratives

Martyrdom

31:00  Reward in the afterlife

32:00  Nearing the end of life

33:00  Bucket list for the young and old

34:00  Bungee jumping and sky diving

Hot air balloon

35:00  "Push it into the afterlife situation"

36:00  Chris says Christianity is for dummies.

37:00  Peter denying Jesus three times. 

38:00  Mortal and venial sins

39:00  The Story of Jonah

40:00  Jonah was before Jesus.

43:00  Repentance would only get you redemption if it takes place before death. 

44:00  Christian adulterers, murderers get to heaven, according to Chris. 

45:00  Priestly absolution

47:00  Confession as therapy and surveillance

AI as therapy and surveillance

48:00  Catholic mother's advice to her child about confession

49:00  To think evil thoughts even if no evil act results is also as bad as doing it, apparently. 

52:00  Meeting people in heaven whom you don't think deserve to be there. 

53:00  Pharisees, temple, parents

54:00  The Noahide laws are fair enough. 

55:00  Hitler in heaven

56:00  The purpose of the afterlife

58:00  Pass mark to get to heaven

59:00  The Abrahamic God was created to punish evil and reward good. 

1:00:00  Jews, Christians and Muslim in world history

1:01:00  God as thought policeman and superego

1:02:00  Organised religion is better at securing compliance.

1:03:00  Bart Ehrman identifies as an intellectual and intellectuals are atheist. 

1:06:00  You'd like to believe that good will be rewarded and evil punished, wouldn't you?

1:08:00  We are required to believe in the afterlife if we claim to believe in God. 

1:09:00  Injustice

1:10:00  Legal remedies

1:11:00  Criminal Injuries Compensation Board

Crime Victim Compensation programs

1:12:00  Admission to heaven

1:13:00  Christian universalism

1:14:00  Judaism to Christianity

1:15:00  Chris assumes he is going to heaven. 

1:18:00  Hitler in heaven

1:19:00  Paul

1:21:00  Jason Arday

1:22:00  The Story of Joseph

1:23:00  A fair enough heaven?

1:25:00  Reincarnation is grade retention. 

1:26:00  Suffering is punishment for sin. 

1:27:00  Tertullian: "What has Athens to do with Jerusalem?" 

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11:13

@anselman3156

​​We start with the Christian Faith in order to reason properly.

11:59

@anselman3156

​​Fides quaerens intellectum

12:09

@anselman3156

​​Credo ut intelligam

12:34

@TheA-Flock-AlypseNow

​​Except for that old saying, there’s no honor amongst thieves.

13:07

@anselman3156

​​I believe in order that I might understand

13:53

@anselman3156

​​The Faith is reasonable but not arrived at merely by reason. It is given by grace

14:11

@Eolson-helper

​​Humans are not that logical. The conservatives in America were logically against tariffs before they were logically for them.

15:19

@Eolson-helper

​​Blue church is not blue collar workers! Thats funny! Claire is funny :)

17:44

@anselman3156

​​The Christian Faith view all as made in the image of God, having a basic dignity and right from that. Other religions/ideologies dehumanize certain classes, groups, ethnicities

18:03

@teestrypzSOG

​​Tunji please jump on and scare Claire off

20:33

@SunRiseInTheWest

​​He said no more forever wars!

20:45

@teestrypzSOG

​​Not you Brett, she frustrates you as much as you frustrate her. Tunji scared her off last time

29:30

@βρεττς

​​Claire is the only person who knows the right history

31:26

@βρεττς

​​Non-Sequitur, Claire

33:01

@βρεττς

​​She’s been told us many times with her for and doesn’t get it or pertains to not get it

33:37

@βρεττς

​​She avoided the point you made about Christianity

42:47

@βρεττς

​​It was more about God’s, divine sovereignty and Jonah obeying

43:42

@βρεττς

​​The Ninevites were Asyria. they put heads on steaks outside of their gates

44:47

@βρεττς

​​Not the first time you’ve heard this, Claire

49:39

@βρεττς

​​That doesn’t fit into SK for Claire Chris

54:41

@βρεττς

​​No Claire

55:12

@βρεττς

​​No Claire

56:21

@βρεττς

​​No Claire

57:30

@YoavBressler

​​Will Claire still preach her gospel in heaven?

58:28

@βρεττς

​​Of course Yoav

59:22

@βρεττς

​​God wasn’t created Claire you’re missing it over and over and over

59:43

@βρεττς

​​Yep, this is why your version of logic doesn’t Square

1:00:44

@βρεττς

​​It works that way with Common Grace that’s about it

1:01:07

@βρεττς

​​Claire’s whole purpose is to bring people closer to Christ actually lol

1:03:04

@YoavBressler

​​Who are we?

1:03:29

@βρεττς

​​Talking with you, two, and hearing how you two talk, only plants might be firmer than what I know to be true.

1:04:03

@YoavBressler

​​You have avoided my question

1:04:20

@ChadMatthewAlbin

​​We humans

1:04:35

@βρεττς

​​She might answer it later on her stream when she Vince

1:04:51

@ChadMatthewAlbin

​​The great unwashed

1:04:57

@ChadMatthewAlbin

​​My middle name

1:07:18

@ChadMatthewAlbin

​​Boy oh boy who of us aren’t punished?

1:08:13

@βρεττς

​​Back to your version of logic

1:08:40

@ChadMatthewAlbin

​​Even punishment is reward

1:08:45

@YoavBressler

​​was I wrong to ignore it?

1:09:57

@YoavBressler

​​Dogs go to heaven. Cats go to hell as employees.

1:11:32

@ChadMatthewAlbin

​​Good morning bison

1:12:00

@WhiteStoneName

​​Don’t let Claire get away with logorrhea.

1:14:18

@ChadMatthewAlbin

​​Claire what are your thoughts on afterlife and your place in it?

1:15:56

@bibliobison

​​Maybe God isn't that interested in justice, maybe God is loving!

1:27:47

@SunRiseInTheWest

​​Well done Claire :)

People who won’t tell you their religion when all they do is talk about religion

1:00  Traffic light beliefs

2:00  Employers stopped asking people's religions on job applications between 1950s and 1970s.

3:00  Calling oneself atheist and agnostic

Jordan Peterson refused to say if he believed in God. 

4:00  Moral philosophers are obliged to disclose their moral principles. 

7:00  A Register of Religions

https://secularkoranism.blogspot.com/2025/03/why-secular-koranist-state-will-keep.html

Taqwa - God consciousness

9:00  Coming of Age Ceremony when you register your religion

11:00  The Koran warns  people not to follow the religion of their ancestors just because it is the religion of their ancestors. 

12:00  Religious discrimination

13:00  Even the Hindus and Buddhists worship the Abrahamic God, albeit unknowingly. 

14:00  Ultra Orthodox Jews believe reincarnation is administered by the Abrahamic God.

15:00  Hinduism and Buddhism are the religion of low expectations. 

17:00  Christians appear not to understand that it is idolatry to worship a man. 

Jews  and Muslims just have to keep asking the Pope, Archbishop of Canterbury and the British monarch how Christianity is not idolatry and how Jesus is God. 

19:00  Are the evil people lost souls who keep reincarnating in the West as fake Christians, Post Christian and Liberal?

22:00  Belief in God and the afterlife was compulsory in organised religions. 

Christians confuse themselves with the term cultural Christian.

23:00  Misuse of ideas

24:00  The Abrahamic God is crucial to the logic of believing good will be rewarded and evil punished in this life and the next. 

25:00  We need to believe that perfect justice is in theory possible if God exists.

26:00  Obeying God's laws would tend to produce a high trust, low crime society.  

27:00  It would not be logical to convert to Judaism if you are gentile. 

28:00  Jews are forbidden to enter churches which are places of abomination where idolatry is practised but allowed to pray with Muslims in mosques. 

29:00  Simon Sheppard says lying takes more effort than telling the truth. There is no verb called "truthing".

31:00  Why isn't Jordan Peterson smart enough to call himself agnostic, like me?

33:00  You do not have to believe in God to support Secular Koranism as long as you are a social conservative. 

37:00  Historical materialism

39:00  Communism and Capitalism

The difference between Socialism and Communism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Germany

40:00  Christianity has no codified principles. 

41:00  Beliefs, values and practices

42:00  If you have instructions on how to get to heaven, obedience is key. 

43:00  Sharia is fair enough. 

Burke: "Life, liberty and property"

46:00  Thomas Paine the deist

48:00  Ethical monotheism > pantheism

The Outlaw and Bounty Hunter would have different beliefs, values, practices and objectives

2:00  Jerusalem v Athens debate

4:00  Jews still exist, but Ancient Athens is no more. 

5:00  Thucydides on the Delian League

6:00  Exchange between Chris Howard and me

7:00  Outlaws and Bounty Hunters have different beliefs, values and practices.

9:00  The logic of criminal behaviour is not moral. 

10:00  Individuals bounded by the Noahide laws would know not to kill or steal. 

Government consultant overseeing the adoption of Secular Koranism

11:00  Beta males without an alpha male leader cannot organise themselves to defeat the matriarchy. 

12:00   Paul Vanderklay

13:00  Politics is a vocation. 

14:00  Secular Koranism is all-American.

15:00  The Founding Fathers are responsible for the fall of Christendom.

16:00  The Declaration of Independence declares a theocracy. 

17:00  Patriarchy > Matriarchy

Why no Western Man is interested in winning arguments with facts and logic

The fallacy of idolatry

8:00  The meaning of my avatar

The unaddressed atheism of Christians

9:00  Emmet Fox's Sermon on the Mount

12:00   An honest  and fearless moral inventory

https://alcohol.org/alcoholics-anonymous/step-4/

16:00  Olson has read Secular Koranism

Spirituality is good faith. 

17:00  Martyrdom

18:00  The burned and bloody history of Christianity

Empiricism

19:00  The Enlightenment

23:00  James II

25:00  The British monarchy

26:00  A monarch has a very undeveloped mind. 

27:00  Charles III could be defending the Trinity for the rest of his life as Archbishop of Canterbury.

28:00  Karen Kilby American Catholic theologian

29:00  Doctrine of the Trinity Act 1813

30:00  America is responsible for the fall of Christendom.

31:00  The Pope does not have an army. 

32:00  Henry II threatened to convert to Islam. 

Muslims did not do their dawah to Christians in Europe.

33:00  Ottoman Empire began in 1299 when Constantinople was conquered. 

34:00  The Koran warns against following the religion of our ancestors just because it is the religion of our ancestors. 

35:00  The Traffic Light Disposition towards God

36:00  Moral inventory of US foreign policy

37:00  The id, ego and superego of Uncle Sam

38:00  Exceptional and indispensable nation

New Canaan 1 to 19,500

40:00  Taking a moral inventory better than WW3.

41:00  The Conversion of Constantine and Europe by A H M Jones

32:00  Edict of Thessalonica  380

44:00  No heretics were burned at  the stake in the English Republic. 

45:00  The Greeks believed might is right. 

46:00  Jerusalem won against Athens.  

47:00  Why the Roman Republic lasted longer than the Athenian Republic

Sparta was a diarchy.

51:00  Europeans deserve better.

52:00  Intersectionality is the inversion of patriarchy. 

53:00  Getting to heaven requires obedience to God's laws. 

54:00  Academic philosophers

55:00  The fake religion of Christianity

58:00  The Emperor New Clothes is still Christianity. 

59:00  Two different kinds of human  rights

  

1:00:00  A job for King Charles and his successors

1:02:00   Order of succession of Archbishops of Canterbury

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_to_the_British_throne

1:04:00  How the Ummah can discharge their religious obligation of obeying quran.com/18/4

1:05:00  Does the British monarch enjoy First Amendment rights?

1:06:00  The remnant of Christendom in Europe

1:08:00  How the Meaning Crisis can be resolved

1:09:00  The meaning of matriarchy

1:10:00  Western men and women would rather die childless, gay and transgender than become responsible married parents of legitimate offspring.

1:11:00  I care more about American Christians than PVK.

1:12:00  The Trinity is a can of worms no Christian leader wants opened and emptied on his carpet. 

1:13:00  Pandering to Islamophobia

The spiritual benefits of Secular Koranism: consistently winning arguments with facts and logic

Winning arguments is fun!

2:00   Keyboard Army

3:00  Intersectionality

4:00  Generating the will to fight the cancer of intersectionality

Martyrdom

5:00  Secular Koranism is facts and logic. 

6:00  The Idiocy of Intersectionality and Idolatry keeps Western men pretending to be Christian to continue worshiping their idols of Atheism, Islamophobia, Nihilism and Narcissism. 

7:00  Christian Fellowship is about Christians huddling in their echo chambers ignoring the fact that  they have been lied to since the 4th century. 

Christians suffer from the disease of the mind of ignoring facts and logic to maintain their belief in the Trinity.  

8:00  PVK believes Christianity has enough mileage to last him his lifetime, which is why he continues to promote Christian mediocrities who have nothing useful to say instead of asking me challenging questions to debunk Secular Koranism, based entirely on sound arguments and undisputed fact. Because he knows that it cannot be faulted on truth and logic, it seems he believes the best strategy is to deprive it of the oxygen of publicity.  

9:00  The Muslim Muslin Cloth Analogy

12:00  "Facts and logic/God agree with me!"

15:00  Jews - divided into four groups - are evidence of God.. 

17:00  Facts and logic v The Trinity

18:00  The Torah prescribes stoning for idolaters and blasphemers as well as those guilty of inciting idolatry and blasphemy. 

20:00  The Koran does not mention blasphemy. 

21:00  Christians have already lost the argument again and again. 

God is an idea. 

22:00  The benefits of supporting the idea of God even if you are agnostic 

The difference between science (inductive reasoning) and theology (deductive reasoning)

The difference between theology and empiricism.

2:00  The difference between data and deduction ie information and presupposition.

3:00  The attributes of the Abrahamic God

The  difference between the material and conceptual

4:00  Are atheist Western philosophers fit for purpose if they never think to look for wisdom in what is supposed to be the Supreme Creator of the Universe?

5:00  Christians hate my logical propositions because I am the mortal enemy of the Trinity which they know they cannot defend either with violence or sound arguments. 

6:00  Lacking interest in theology betrays lack of interest in God, His nature and laws as well as whether God can be an executed blasphemer who sacrificed himself to Himself after banning human sacrifice. 

7:00  America - which is a matriarchy - has the political orthodoxy of intersectionality. 

9:00  To the extent that atheists can be said to have a religion - which cannot really be a religion if it is only for one person -  that atheist theology only amounts to their individual worldview which will be a blend of narcissism, nihilism and self-interest.   

Religion is a statement of beliefs, values and principles. 

10:00  Everything is politics. 

11:00  Theology is the study of the Anatomy of God. 

12:00  Is God a man?

The existence of the Abrahamic God is absolutely crucial to the logic of believing that good will be rewarded and evil punished in this life and the next.

Without the theoretical existence of God, it would not be logical to believe that good will be rewarded or evil punished.

15:00  Pancasila

Our moral identity is our religion or political affiliations.

Atheists have certain distinctive characteristics eg being sexually liberation from the rules of marriage and good parenting and being more criminally inclined as well being narcissists and unprincipled nihilists. America is ruled by such people.

19:00  Theology is another word for ideology.

20:00  The nature and purpose of religion

The matriarchy wants us to be functionally atheist while believing we have a religion so that we are easily controlled by their sticks and carrots of bribery and threats. Christianity is the perfect religion for those who want to discourage questions and impose public and self-censorship after dumbing down the populace. 

21:00  The Koran is the best available guide to humanity. 

Attempts by Trinitarians to explain the nonsense of the Trinity

1:13 PM

@WhiteStoneName

#3

​Jesus’s connection to the Logos? The Logos is separate from Jesus?

1:13 PM

@WhiteStoneName

#3

​Conscience not conscious

1:13 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@WhiteStoneName How is the Trinity logical?

1:13 PM

@terricameron9161

​​good morning! I used to dread authority, but nowafter learning more of God's Love protection and sovereign care for me I have developed a faithful response to His authority in my life.

1:13 PM

@WhiteStoneName

#3

​Integrity. Think Job.

1:14 PM

@WhiteStoneName

​​The Logos is the Spirit?

1:15 PM

@MarcInTbilisi

#3

​logos, word, breath, wind, spirit.

1:15 PM

@anselman3156

​​the humanity of Jesus is created, to be the human nature which is the Logos's very own

1:16 PM

@anselman3156

​​the question is when was Jesus' human spirit/soul created?

1:16 PM

@anselman3156

​​was it before the worlds were made, or at his conception in Mary's womb?

1:18 PM

@anselman3156

​​The logos never ceased to be God in glory when he became incarnate, but Jesus prays abt the glory he had before the worlds were made

1:19 PM

@anselman3156

​​The Logos was God, but as having a created nature in Christ, he was with God, might be one reading of John 1

1:21 PM

@anselman3156

​​I tend to think the human spirit of Christ was created at the very beginning of creation. I am pondering that and not sure if others have considered it deeply

1:21 PM

@MarcInTbilisi

#3

​agreedAnselam, Christ is eternal.

1:23 PM

@anselman3156

​​ the thing I mean Marc is that the human spirit/soul was created for himself by the eternal logos

1:23 PM

@terricameron9161

​​AMEN!!

1:23 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​Logos is our God-given reason, Luke.

1:23 PM

@MarcInTbilisi

#3

​it's complicated Anselman, not possible to discuss in comments

1:24 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@MarcInTbilisi So you are now a Trinitarian?

1:25 PM

@terricameron9161

​​If we have true faith , we will still have faith in God's authority REGARDLESS of our circumstances!!

1:25 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@daringhobbit Is God the embodiment of facts and logic?

1:27 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​I understand the Trinity. AI Overview actually explains my position on the Trinity.

1:28 PM

@WhiteStoneName

​​Ask AI to give a robust Christian response based in monarchical trinitarianism and mystical Christianity, claire. To be fair. :)

1:30 PM

@AT_Shipley

​​God is the trinity, He didn't create it.

1:32 PM

@βρεττς

​​It was Satan in Job.

1:32 PM

@terricameron9161

​​I am in authority over Ryan!!! lol!!

1:33 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@daringhobbit Can you point out to Brett that people would expect something in return from God if they are to obey Him?

1:33 PM

@βρεττς

​​Hahaha

1:33 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​There is no scriptural evidence that God created the Trinity.

1:33 PM

@βρεττς

​​Nope Claire. Not if you’re Christian

************************************

48:00  Why don't Christians just admit that the reason why the Christian practice of heretic burning started was because it is so easy to debunk the Trinity? Jews would just say "Our God of Israel is more powerful than your crucified Christ, so we win!" That was why the Edict of Thessalonica 380 was passed to shut them up.

58:00  Brett is ostentatiously displaying his piety again. Reasonable people would only obey God's laws only if there is an ultimate payoff. Brett probably doesn't even believe in the afterlife because he does not care that Jews and Muslims think idolatry is a mortal sin ie a sin punishable by eternal damnation.

No Trinitarian can explain the Trinity to the satisfaction of any non-Trinitarian. Christian imperialism worked because it operated the stick and carrot method of propagating Christianity to other unprincipled idolaters who easily succumbed to this method of proselytisation.  

The fact is that the Trinity is the antithesis of facts and logic and on this stream we were treated to the delight of hearing Luke Thompson explaining the Trinity which is basically "No words can explain the Trinity and if you don't get it, you're stupid and not a good Christian gentleman like me." 

59:00  There is no scriptural evidence for God having created the Trinity.

Why would God contradict himself and become Jesus after forbidding idolatry?

11:47 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​We are seduced by sin.

11:48 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​Albatross have a long term parental relationship.

11:48 AM

@SeekingGenuine

#1

​Interesting, I think seduction is both natural and learned

11:48 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​Christianity is used as a brand by liberals and by conservatives.

11:50 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​I really can't bear O G Rose both in his content and delivery.

11:52 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​I am not grifting.

11:55 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@VanWeasley-e8s What is the TLC group psychosis?

11:55 AM

@ChadMatthewAlbin

#3

​Rob and his obsessions

11:56 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@VanWeasley-e8s Does it have a name?

12:02 PM

@SeekingGenuine

#1

​I’d accept your opinion more than most, Chris

12:03 PM

@Jzepp

#3

​Even criticism of critics. Do you own a mirror Rob?

12:03 PM

@anselman3156

​​you should be ideologically committed to forever pressing for the implementation of Secular Chris Howardism

12:04 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​To be on a PVK rando is considered a high honour.

12:05 PM

@ChadMatthewAlbin

​​All hail VanderKlay

12:05 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​Maybe Rob is secretly PVK and he is just kicking up dust for more controversy.

12:05 PM

@Jzepp

#3

​PVK as villain. 🤣🤣🤣

12:05 PM

@SeekingGenuine

#1

​Lolson, I love that theory

12:05 PM

@ChadMatthewAlbin

​​We cannot survive the trials of life without pvk making my life meaningful

12:06 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​PVK is a horse whisperer of Christians.

12:07 PM

@teestrypzSOG

​#2

​I don’t mind the troll twins throwing stones at the PVK shaped golden calf. It’s their job.

12:07 PM

@ChadMatthewAlbin

​​I’d castrate myself if he said I should. But you go first

12:07 PM

@anselman3156

​​and are you a hoarse whisperer?

12:08 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​PVK and O G Rose have the same methods of titling their streams ie gibberish intended to attract the algos and their followers.

12:08 PM

@ChadMatthewAlbin

​​It’s mana from heaven Claire

12:08 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​Claire - you funny :)

12:08 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@anselman3156 I am a shaker of shoulders.

12:09 PM

@SeekingGenuine

#1

​Claire, would you not want to attempt get people to listen? If you believe the content is worth hearing?

12:09 PM

@anselman3156

​​so you make nice furniture and dance?

12:09 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​Utter gibberish: "Beauty-Energy or Selected Out in the Meta-Environment of Global Interconnectivity"

12:09 PM

@anselman3156

​​Claire's a Shaker!

12:10 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@SeekingGenuine My modus operandi is keep asking Western men why they have no principles and why they fear to use facts and logic to win arguments against their matriarchy.

12:12 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​I am saying men who identify as Christian are functionally atheist and that is how the matriarchy wants them to be: easy to bribe and threaten with stick and carrot.

12:12 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@SeekingGenuine Do you think Western men of fighting age are capable of feeling shame?

12:15 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​Western men have no ability to organise against the matriarchy because they have no principled leaders. PVK promotes Christian mediocrities, preventing them from understanding their predicament.

12:18 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​I must thank Olson for accusing me of not caring about Christian Americans. It is easy for me to prove that I care more about the repose of their immortal souls than PVK himself.

12:19 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@VanWeasley-e8s Luke is the alpha of househusbands because he has the most live viewers.

12:19 PM

@anselman3156

​​don't be hypocritical Claire You don't believe in repose of immortal souls

12:20 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@anselman3156 I am agnostic.

12:20 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​Alphas need betas.

12:20 PM

@anselman3156

​​I like the Alpha and Omega man

12:20 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​We don't want a situation where there are more chiefs than Indians.

12:21 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​Beta males can become alpha males.

12:21 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​In fact, being beta is training to be alpha.

12:21 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​claire, we both know there grandchildren will have to learn mandarin to survive

12:22 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​That's why they want to nuke China NOW!

12:23 PM

@YawnGod

​​A mosaic is a tile with a story 🤔

12:24 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​weasels run in dutch heritage, not mongoose lol

12:25 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​Neocons want to destroy China by cutting off China's energy supplies without giving a damn about ordinary Americans. In the meantime, ordinary Americans don't give a damn about US foreign policy.

12:26 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​Sharia would actually allow ordinary Americans to hold the government accountable for its foreign policy but they are too intellectually crippled by their Islamophpobia to understand what I say.

12:27 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​PVK could attempt to undermine my claims but he doesn't bother because he cannot and doesn't want to give them the oxygen of publicity pandering to the Islamophobes of TLC.

12:29 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​claire, yesterday he said Christianity is easier to defend with rationality than Islam yet didnt provide any reasons for his illogical claims, go figure lol

12:31 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@VanWeasley-e8s Have you viewed American Catholic Karen Kilby at Durham University on YouTube channel Solomon and Smith on the Trinity? All its vulnerabilities are exposed.

12:31 PM

@SeekingGenuine

​

#2

​🚂✌🏻 thanks Chris, good day all

12:32 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@VanWeasley-e8s To be fair, Christian ministers have to peddle the Trinity because it is totemic of Christianity. Jews and Muslims are even worse hypocrites, arguably, because they won't call it out.

12:34 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@chrishoward8473 How is Olson's car?

12:34 PM

@YoavBressler

​​Jews have many commandments to follow. Calling people out is not among those.

12:35 PM

@anselman3156

​

#1

​Kilby is a modernist Rahnerite theologian Not the best kind of theologian

12:36 PM

@Jzepp

​​Constant criticism is parasitic in nature. It relies on the content creator. PVK’s Critics rely on PVK just as much as his fans.

12:36 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@YoavBressler That is because they do not believe in the afterlife. They do not believe God exists to reward good and punish evil. I am therefore doing the job of believing Jews/Muslims.

12:37 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@Jzepp Do you believe in the afterlife?

12:37 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@anselman3156 What's Rahnerite?

12:37 PM

@anselman3156

#1

​there's something desperate about an agnostic presuming to champion two disparate religions

12:38 PM

@anselman3156

#1

​Karl Rahner

12:38 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@anselman3156 I am waiting for these so-called believing Jews/Muslims to take the baton from me, but they don't, because they are Hell-bound hypocrites.

12:39 PM

@Jzepp

​​Claire, this is the play, no? Get me to make a statement so it can be criticized. Then tell me I should believe what you do. This is just like annoying evangelicals.

12:40 PM

@anselman3156

​#1

​your only basic agnostic dogma is that God if there is one cannot become a man

12:40 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@anselman3156 What do you dislike about Rahner?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Rahner

12:41 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@Jzepp Your belief in the afterlife is weak since you didn't say OF COURSE.

12:43 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@anselman3156 More sophisticated Christians argue that if God is indeed omnipotent, He could be Jesus, but the next question is unanswerable: WHY WOULD HE?

12:45 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@Jzepp You confirm my theory that Christian men are functionally atheist.

12:45 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​Thanks, Chris!

12:45 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​I am trying!

12:46 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​But I must discuss these theological points because they are important!

Who is behind this new anti-Noahide website? www.StopNoahide.org

https://t.co/6EnqXRklYz

— Real Vincent Bruno (@RealVinBruno) August 18, 2026

Everything is politics, including religion and theology Part 2

1:00  Legalism v Confucius

2:00  Harsh punishment of heretics

3:00  Atheists who call out to God

4:00  Hitler only suspended the Weimar constitution.

5:00  Communism

6:00  Historical materialism

7:00  Codified principles

8:00  Christians and Muslims do not deny the Torah.

9:00  Comparing the Bible with the Koran

The narrative of the Abrahamic God

10:00  The mortal sins of idolatry and blasphemy

11:00  The matriarchy

12:00  Moral imperative

13:00  Social and political animals

My contribution to Christian fellowship

14:00  Separation of church and state

15:00  Edward  Gibbon's thesis that Christianity caused the decline and fall of Rome

16:00  A, B and B+ Schools under SK

Culture

17:00  Carrot and stick

Patriarchy and matriarchy

18:00  Which would be better for the next generation?

19:00  Transgenderism the consequence of feminism

20:00  Gender relations

Everything is politics, including religion and theology - Part 1

Not everyone see themselves as political activists. 

2:00  "Not everything is politics." 

Political decisions

3:00  Idolaters do not get to heaven. 

4:00  Idolaters are less compliant with God's laws. 

5:00  Keeping the party going. 

6:00  Experiences are not material. 

7:00  Banning usury

8:00  Christian fellowship

9:00  Job and Mary Poppins

10:00  Acknowledging facts

11:00  Christianity, Liberalism and matriarchy

12:00  Where Angels Fear To Thread

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_Angels_Fear_to_Tread

No alpha male leader

13:00  Snow White and the Seven Dwarves

14:00  Islamic financial instruments

15:00  Political pioneer

16:00  Generation gaps

18:00  Separation of church and state

19:00  Secular Koranism

The abolition of no fault divorce

20:00  Pushing back on feminism by campaigning to abolish no fault divorce

22:00  Megan and Mike

24:00  Religious values

Deuteronomy 28 

Blessings for Obedience

Curses for Disobedience

25:00  Musical Theory and Practice

The sand in pocket analogy signals materialism and atheism

10:37 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​You need to change your beliefs and values, but you are still incorrigibly materialist.

10:38 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​You need to internalise beliefs and ideas, but you reject anything you dislike.

10:38 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​What is the wisest thing O G Rose has ever said?

10:39 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​You just prefer O G Rose because he is white and Christian.

10:39 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​Can anyone tell me what OG Rose has said that you think is wise?

10:39 AM

@ChadMatthewAlbin

#2

​The beach is weathered and ground mountains. A lifetime is the beach. Sometimes castles sometimes hurricanes sometimes a mentor sometimes sometimes

10:40 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​You will prefer any mediocrity as long as that person is white and pretends to be Christian to anything I have to say.

10:41 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​As long as that white fake Christian person hides the truth from you and says soothing things, you will like him. Anyone who says anything that upsets you, you will reject without further scrutiny.

10:42 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​Neal and Matt were talking about a new identity. That sounded hopeful to me.

10:43 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​Christians to remain Christian have to continue with their idolatry.

10:43 AM

@ChadMatthewAlbin

#2

​Numbers 5 17

10:43 AM

@chrishoward8473

#3

​naaman the leper

10:44 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Megan is not interested in theology, just feelings and metaphors.

10:44 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​When Snow White says "Does this make sense?", the Seven Dwarves nod eagerly even if it does not and it does not take anything further.

10:45 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​The Broken Beta Losers fall over themselves to validate her feelings. If Megan learned nothing useful from O G Rose, then it was just a pleasant holiday.

10:46 AM

@alohm

​​Yes, not just the words, but the care in which we use them can shape each other and ourselves. Jung called induction. 😉

10:47 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Megan does not care that Christianity might be idolatry or that idolatry is a mortal sin, just her feelings and being able to express them to adoring men grateful that she spends time with them.

10:48 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Feminine privilege rules in these beta male spaces. If they were politically active beta males, they wouldn't have time for Megan's pocket of sand.

10:49 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Beta males have no leader who wants to protect their interests. PVK is only collecting viewers and subscribers who like his "vibe".

10:50 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Can someone help me about why O G Rose is so wise and so clever?

10:51 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Speech should be analysed for the percentage of filler words used in a sentence to test for imbecility.

10:53 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Imagine actually spelling out a filler word to legitimise "like". I, like, really, like, like it.

10:53 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​I know an English mother who made her children say their sentences again if they ever said "like" unnecessarily in a sentence. I am full of admiration for her.

10:54 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Nobody knows what they want.

10:54 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Need these people for WHAT?

10:55 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Do we need people whose objective is to be ostriches burying their heads in the sand IGNORING THEIR MORAL IMPERATIVE?

10:55 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​So Megan is not interested in theology. Is she interested in philosophical concepts such as the moral imperative?

10:56 AM

@βρεττς

​​We even need people like you Claire. People that do care about things we don’t care about has a benefit even if we can’t see the why.

10:56 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​How can anyone who claims to be educated and who believes in God be indifferent to theology?

10:57 AM

@βρεττς

​​There’s lots of theology

10:57 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​TLC is for Christian Fellowship. Is Christianity working for Christians?

10:57 AM

@βρεττς

​​Yep

10:58 AM

@βρεττς

​​Narcissistic

11:02 AM

@βρεττς

​​We need you Stef

11:03 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Even White Nationalists are hypocrites. They would actually rather die than marry a white woman and parent their white legitimate children together!

11:05 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​SK was actually crafted for white nationalists. But of course they reject it because they just prefer to complain about Jews, Muslims and non-whites and that's it. They are also UNMARRIAGEABLE.

11:07 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​The problem is people like PVK who want to use Christianity as their business model. He only cares about using his status as pastor to get likes, shares, viewers and subscribers.

11:08 AM

@OOOTLAM

2

​The beta males need to choose an alpha male but they are too stupid to know how to choose one because they think PVK is their leader when he is just a panderer and YouTuber.

11:09 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​If PVK cared about ideas, he would be asking me hard questions, but now he doesn't even want to rando me because I am not going to cry in front of him like that Beckie.

11:09 AM

@shoulderserf

​​Chad with the ASMR this AM

11:09 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​PVK said NOTHING about the female Archbishop of Canterbury on the day she was appointed.

11:10 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Anglicanism is the most powerful imperial denomination in the world and still nominally has a monarch whose divine right it is supposed to defend.

11:12 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​PVK is selling the story of Beckie losing her faith and then finding it again as some kind of Christian miracle. He never even mentioned post partum depression because it would spoil the vibe.

11:13 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Pity the beta males of the West. Nobody cares about them. Women disdain them, and they have no principled leader who is not merely a panderer.

11:14 AM

@βρεττς

​​Or not driving a knife in the wound

11:14 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​The least we can all do is say what we are supposed to do, but having a woman constantly talking about her feelings with no plan for political action is a DISTRACTION.

11:15 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​I am trying to cut out the cancer that you pretend not to notice.

11:15 AM

@βρεττς

​​There’s more to life than politics.

11:16 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Politics is morality, and your religion is useless if it is politically useless. Too bad, Americans, that  your Founding Fathers separated the church from their state.

11:16 AM

@βρεττς

​​This is why you two are miserable

11:16 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​I'll try to join, but I bet Megan won't let me.

11:17 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Waiting backstage.

11:18 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Or she'll do an Olson "You must not talk about anything mentioned in your book."

11:18 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Job did nothing wrong.

11:18 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​There is meaning in suffering.

11:19 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​But atheists wouldn't know.

11:19 AM

@shoulderserf

​​Every time I think about Job I miss his presense around here a little bit

11:19 AM

@βρεττς

​​I agree Claire

11:19 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​I actually read a story THE GOLDEN THREAD but I bet everyone boycotted it.

11:20 AM

@chrishoward8473

​​you need a monument to Mark the event

11:20 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Jews believe that the cure exists before the disease.

11:21 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​It is only pride and chauvinism that prevents Christians from admitting that Christianity has utterly failed to prevent the fall of the Roman Empire, the end of Christendom and patriarchy.

11:22 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​There is something better that has been around for 1400 years which the Founding Fathers actually read and partially adopted.

11:23 AM

@shoulderserf

​​Blessed are the parents who never have to experience it

11:24 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​The modus operandi of Christianity is to keep the cattle afraid to ask questions. This was what Karen Kilby American Catholic theologian at Durham University said obliquely on Smith and Solomon.

11:25 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​I actually forwarded the link with Karen Kilby to Megan, but I am sure she won't be viewing it, not being interested in the Trinity or any kind of theology.

11:25 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​What is Christianity is will be what the powers that be says it is.

11:26 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​I am waiting waiting waiting. Olson has nothing to say but Snow White doesn't want to kill the vibe and upset the dwarves.

11:28 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​"Libidinal energy" is a euphemism for the male sex drive.

11:28 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​The Chinese already call it Yin and Yang.

11:29 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Is it too advanced to introduce the MATRIARCHY?

11:30 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​No men are campaigning to end no fault divorce.

11:30 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Come on, Megan, I have lots to say about sublimation.

11:31 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​All these men saying "I don't know, it hurts, ow, ow, ow" while I have the solution and the cure but Megan won't let me on.

11:31 AM

@OOTLAM

​#2

​Ian is just rambling.

11:32 AM

@TonyTigerGreat

​​come on Stef, bring the abolitionist juice, save the stream 😉

11:33 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​"God will not change the lot of a people who will not change what is in their hearts." Their hearts are filled with arrogance, rage, racial hatred and the compulsion to play the blame game.

11:34 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​When most of you are atheists and fake Christians, what you really worship are your own opinions that you will refuse to change whatever facts and logic say.

11:35 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​When people know you will not change your mind whatever facts and logic say, you are provoking violence.

11:36 AM

@TonyTigerGreat

​​claire, did Bee not let you on?

11:36 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​It would help if the title contains propositions and questions instead of vague words to give a female vibe.

11:36 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​@TonyTigerGreat I'm still waiting.

11:37 AM

@TonyTigerGreat

​​that's BS

11:38 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​It's kinda of like "I took drugs, I got high, but I'm coming down. How can I keep the high going? Maybe take more drugs?"

11:38 AM

@TonyTigerGreat

​​funny how those grieving over socalled woke cancel culture do more cancelations than the Reconquista Inquisition

11:38 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​The hypocrisy is almost intolerable.

11:39 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​This stream is an argument for sex segregation.

11:40 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​Men are excessively deferential to women spouting mundanities which they would instantly reject if another man spoke it.

11:40 AM

@TonyTigerGreat

​​Neal's grievance prophesy of doom coming to a suburb near you

11:40 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​Pity the men: absurdly grateful that there are ladies prepared to be seen with them.

11:41 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​I am just telling them how they could go about fighting the poz, but Megan won't let me on.

11:42 AM

@βρεττς

​​Are you crying?

11:42 AM

@βρεττς

​​Publicly?

11:44 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​If Megan is wondering what to do, she can let me on instead of hosting group therapy.

11:45 AM

@βρεττς

​​You have your rage therapy with Rob out there

11:45 AM

@TonyTigerGreat

​​don't mention art therapy around Mark S, dont trigger the grievance sensibilities

11:46 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​The meaning crisis = the matriarchy crisis = the feminism crisis = the masculinity crisis = the atheism crisis = the narcissism crisis = the nihilism crisis = the liberalism crisis

11:47 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​What I have noticed about graduates of bible college is how badly educated they are.

11:48 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​Middle class women always feel they are protected from bad shit so they don't see it the way men do.

11:49 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​Platitudinous pap is not for men.

11:49 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​Bible college graduates have basically shot themselves in the foot and the head.

11:50 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​How many times is "like" said unnecessarily in any TLC transcript of a stream? Its incidence will make you sick to the stomach.

11:50 AM

@MarcInTbilisi

​​There are some beautiful people in this world, try & be one of them.

11:51 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​Would Ian sound smarter if he stopped saying "like" unnecessarily?

11:51 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

​​Claire, you have no idea the 💩 I’ve been through. You have bever asked.

11:51 AM

@MarcInTbilisi

​#3

​Claire never watched Mary Poppins, or read her.

11:51 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​@stefaniecristos8514 You're a five star hotel kind of classy lady!

11:52 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

​​Yep. So what?

11:53 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​@stefaniecristos8514 So what have you been through?

11:53 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​Was that an insult or a compliment?😘

11:54 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​I am not even claiming that I have suffered more than anyone else. I just have ears to hear and eyes to see!

11:54 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​@stefaniecristos8514 Compliment

11:54 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​I’ll have to think if I trust you enough to tell you

11:54 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​@MarcInTbilisi Why are you talking about Mary Poppins now?

11:55 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​Oh, then thank you

11:55 AM

@MarcInTbilisi

​​'like', it's a word to use when you don't what to say.

11:55 AM

@OOOTLAM

#1

​@stefaniecristos8514 I am the soul of discretion. I keep people's secrets even when they don't ask me to mindful of the rules of Lashon Hara.

11:55 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​Oh, then thank you

11:55 AM

@MarcInTbilisi

​​'like', it's a word to use when you don't what to say.

11:55 AM

@OOOTLAM

​#1

​@stefaniecristos8514 I am the soul of discretion. I keep people's secrets even when they don't ask me to mindful of the rules of Lashon Hara.

Koranic principles of international relations and warfare would discourage war

The Koran addresses the issues of slavery, prostitution and war as well as marriage and usury.

1:00  Total war in the Thirty Years War

2:00  Theology as a reason for war

The Washingtonian idea of a one-party state

3:00  The Declaration of Independence

"Certain unalienable rights"

4:00  Bill of Rights and the Koran

5:00  Gavin Ashenden

Liberalism has no codified principles.

6:00  No more neocon wars.

7:00  Representatives for men of fighting age well-versed in Koranic principles of international and warfare to scrutinise US foreign policy

Grand Unified Theory of the Afterlife for the immortal souls of the major religions of the world

Universal Theory

1:00  Grand Unified Theory

Jews falling out of Judaism should choose a Noahide religion. 

3:00  Modern Orthodox

4:00  Jews becoming Noahide

5:00  Jews are supposed to close down their synagogue if they cannot find ten men in good standing with God to form a minyan.

6:00  Neurosis and existential despair

7:00  What is the official moral system of the West?

8:00  Rectification of Names by Confucius

9:00  John Adams

11:00  The Trinity

12:00  Human nature is the same the world over.

13:00  Meaning of words

14:00  Racist, Fascist, Nationalist

15:00  The rule of law

16:00  Religion is about law, war and politics.

17:00  Confucius

18:00  People know what they are supposed to do but don't  do it. 

19:00  Mandate of Heaven > Divine Right To Rule

22:00  Do people really know what  they really believe?

23:00  Government propaganda and narratives

24:00  Rewarding good and punishing evil in this life and the next

25:00  All the immortal souls of the world is included under the Grand Unified Theory.

26:00  Government decree to get rabbis to rank the four gentile religions according to their conformity with the Noahide laws

28:00  Hindus and Buddhists

29:00  Sadducees and Pharisees

30:00  Christianity is not fit for purpose.

32:00  Disordered speech

Mark Lefebvre

39:00  quran.com/4/59

41:00  The Mandate of Allah

42:00  Christians

43:00  Jewish and Muslim cooperation

44:00  Tawhid

Jews suffering from Islamophobia

46:00  Book of Jeremiah

New Covenant

47:00  Rabbinical ranking

50:00  How is Christianity not idolatry and how is Jesus God?

51:00  Orthodox Muslim

52:00  SK USA

Economic advantages of sharia

53:00  quran.com/5/5

57:00  quran.com/5/116

59:00  Sam Gerrans

Highway to Heaven

1:00:00  Wanting everyone's attention

1:02:00  Muslim motorway to heaven

1:05:00  The Founding Fathers proto-Muslim Noahides.

1:07:00  Spiritual benefits of Secular Koranism

1:08:00  A letter writing campaign to King Charles

Two Christian Nations Divided by a Common Religion

1:00  Who is more hypocritical?

1) The people who pretend to be Christian

2) The people who pretend to be atheist

6:00 The bad guys = matriarchy

The good guys = patriarchy

11:00  If you are being questioned about your Christianity by your government, it means Liberalism is now your official religion. Who made liberals the boss?

13:00  The Koran forbids suicide, but not the Bible.

Isn't Britain still the birthplace of Anglicanism?

Catholicism is no longer the official religion of Italy. Christianity has failed at so many levels: failing to prevent the decline and fall of Rome, failing to prevent the end of Christendom in 1918 and failing to protect the patriarchy. Its death certificate should be signed ASAP by the US adopting Secular Koranism. Once the US adopts SK, the rest of the West would follow allowing Westerners an opportunity for imperial reform that actually makes the world a better place and prevents more neocon wars. 

19:00  The British monarch does not have First Amendment rights.

21:00  Gavin Ashenden is an Islamophobe. Interestingly, he warns his followers not to engage with Muslims because they will lose the argument.

23:00  By rejecting Anglicanism for Catholicism, Gavin Ashenden is a heretic to liberalism whose sacred narrative is Whig History ie that the Protestant Reformation was a Good Thing. Catholics regard  the Protestant Reformation as a historical tragedy.

23:30  The Church of England was founded by Henry VIII so he could be his own Pope and divorce Catherine of Arragon after the Pope refused to grant him an annulment from his first wife. Jesus who died a bachelor and Popes who were also bachelors regarded divorce as equal to adultery. The Koran tolerates divorce as a human right.  If Henry VIII had been Muslim, many lives would have been saved from dying as a result of being the wrong kind of Christian during the English Reformation. 

29:00  It is the Koran that supports the First Amendment with quran.com/2/256

If British monarchs could have their way, they would be absolute monarchs with the right to sign the death warrants of their subjects. 

The only reason why they agreed to become constitutional monarchs was fear of regicide. 

31:00  The Church of England will not disclose the actual number of confirmed Christians in the UK. Probably, there are more believing Muslims in the UK already than there are confirmed Christians. 

34:00  Did the ancestors of Anglicans really believe in the Trinity when saying you rejected the religion of your king could end you up being burned at the stake? 

39:00  Do these people claiming to be Christian really believe in the afterlife? If so, why are they so indifferent to the fact that they may be guilty of the mortal sins of idolatry and blasphemy? At the most, they see Christianity only as a cultural affiliation. This means that they are just Cultural Christians. Cultural Christians may reject the Trinity and/or even the existence of God. 

43:00  There is no Word  of God in the New Testament since not even Christians claim its authors were Jesus, let alone God. 

45:00  That Liberalism was a rejection of Christianity seems obvious to me. It is odd how historians like Tom Holland conflate Christianity with Liberalism. Liberalism is the antithesis of Christianity, the religion that supported absolute monarchy which the Founding Fathers rejected in no uncertain terms.

A Universal Theory of the Afterlife: merging reincarnation with the goal of heaven

 

Merging reincarnation with getting to heaven

1:00  A Universal Theory of the Afterlife

Reincarnation is grade retention or being forced to repeat a year. 

2:00  Islamophobic Catholic Will Anselm

https://www.instagram.com/willanselme/

4:00  The correct answer is Islam.

5:00  Bodhisattva

6:00  Islamophobes worship their Idol of Islamophobia.

7:00  The echo chambers of Christian fellowship

8:00  Bible Study

9:00  Which religion would you choose if you wanted to go to heaven ASAP? The Torah does not mention an afterlife where good will be rewarded and evil punished. The New Testament is not divinely authored. 

10:00  Nobody knows who wrote Hebrews. Even if it was Paul, how would he know?

11:00  To be Christian is to be Islamophobic.

12:00  Trinitarian Christians should call their deity "Trinity". 

13:00  Calling God "Trinny". 

14:00  Elul

15:00  The matriarchy controls the curriculum. 

https://radicalisedrabbi.blogspot.com/2026/08/the-ick-of-idolatry-and-anthropomorphism.html

17:00  Sexual reproduction is not creation.

18:00  Benjamin Disraeli

Controlling people with rules and reason

18:00  https://radicalisedrabbi.blogspot.com/2026/08/15700-claire-khaw-discussed.html

20:00  Messiah Substitute

21:00  Hypocrites

22:00  quran.com/18/4

23:00  How Muslims can discharge their religious duty to warn those who claim that God has begotten a son

24:00  How Jews can stop suffering and being cursed by God for disobedience

25:00  Buddhism, Hinduism and Christianity

26:00  The moral Jesus was sent to teach humanity is to show how stupid and stubborn idolaters who worship an executed blasphemer are. 

27:00  No more son sacrifice after the story of Abraham and Isaac

28:00  Athanasius and his way of winning the theological argument against Jews

29:00  21st century Christians should have a care for the immortal souls of their Christian ancestors.

30:00  Christians keep repeating their lesson on idolatry which they cannot understand because of the propositional tyranny of the Trinity. 

 

31:00  Christians are ringing the wrong number if they want to go to heaven. 

32:00  The sin of idolatry is its own punishment. 

WW3 

33:00  Accused of  being Nazis for questioning US foreign policy

34:00  Can Christians even pass the theory part of the examination of knowing the difference between good and evil when they do not understand that worshiping a man is the mortal sin of idolatry?

35:00  The reputation of Christians after WW3

36:00  Jews and Muslims are hypocrites too. 

45:00 Claire Khaw compared to the Canaanite woman

28:00  Our moral identity is something we can choose.

31:00  Revolution

32:00  Tribalism

33:00  Dunbar Number, TLC and its inner circle in Signal chats

36:00  TLC as an important socio-political-religious group

42:00  Who belongs to the tribe?

43:00  The Far Left  and Far Right

44:00   Moral binding = religion

45:00  CLAIRE KHAW mentioned. 

46:00  Purgatory

47:00  Ten good men

TLC the Wild West

48:00  TLC is not for Christian apologists.

49:00  Women are rare in TLC.

50:00  Hamilton on Broadway

Sociological pioneering thing

51:00  Participation

52:00  Claire Khaw is not seeking friendship but will stick around. 

56:00  The Coming Thing is Secular Koranism. 

59:00  The Meaning Crisis

The Matriarchy Crisis

The Atheism Crisis

The Feminism Crisis

The Nihilism Crisis

The Narcissism Crisis

The Neocon Crisis

The Idolatry Crisis

The Liberalism Crisis

The Imperial Crisis

The Christianity Crisis

1:05:00  Repent with Secular Koranism in sackcloth and ashes ...

1:06:00  Global repentance with global Secular Koranism starting with America

1:11:00  Pride prevents Christians from seeing that their next identity can only be better than their current one.  

1:12:0  The global desire for repentance can be satisfied by witnessing American Presidents grovelling on the ground in sackcloth and ashes. The world would stop its business for this spectacle Americans voters should demand this on their social media platforms. 

1:26:00  Spiritual Preppers

1:29:00  Hunting and manhood

1:57:00 CLAIRE KHAW discussed.

1:57:00  CLAIRE KHAW discussed. 

The desire for monarchy is a desire for daddy and he ain’t God

1:00  Self-hatred

3:00  Freudian Theory

6:00  Elul

7:00  Harvest Festival

8:00  Bacronym

9:00  Acrostic

11:00  Song of Songs

21:00  Monarchy is idolatry.

24:00  Constitutional republic

25:00  John Adams

32:00  The Koran is the best available guide to humanity.

35:00  The Torah v The Koran

36:00  Ranking the four gentile religions

37:00  Muslim men allowed to marry Jewesses and Christian women as well as Muslim women.

39:00  Monarchy

40:00  Sharia is actually American.

41:00  America is not part of Christendom.

The Christian Secular Koranist

 

The Christian Secular Koranist

3:00  Holy Roller

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roller

7:00  Tovia Singer

Karen Kilby

https://radicalisedrabbi.blogspot.com/2026/08/christian-theology-is-idolatry-and.html

16:00  The powers that be want Westerners to be Christian because they are functionally atheist. 

19:00  Smith & Solomon

21:00  Michael Lofton

Shahid Bolsen

22:00  The matriarchy promotes the mediocre, corrupt and incompetent.

23:00  The matriarchy is an organism. 

24:00  Facts and logic

25:00  Christianity has no codified principles. 

26:00  Christianity is a religion of convenience and hypocrisy.

28:00  The human rights in the Koran

31:00  Mood management

32:00  Content controller

Rectification of Names

34:00  Jews as islands and gentiles as oceans.

35:00   Algorithms

36:00  CIA

37:00  Universal education

38:00  History curriculum

39:00  The female voter

"Is love missing in our broken societies?"

 

Secular Koranism is a revolutionary book, but "mechanistic". 

2:00  Non-Eros kinds of love

5:00  Joshua Shalet

6:00  My aims and objectives

7:00  Government run marriage bureau

9:00  Matrimonial Disputes Tribunal, Matrimonial Disputes Appeal Tribunal, Divorce Court

10:00  Marriageability Assessment

11:00  Abolition of no-fault divorce

12:00  Marital relations

14:00  Fornication undermines marriage.

16:00  Our culture of casual sex

18:00  Friendly and generous neighbours

19:00  Platonic love

21:00  People greet each other in the country. 

22:00  Clavicular and his looksmaxxing

23:00  Having goals

24:00  Hashkafa

27:00  Avatar

28:00  The right kind of communication

29:00  Speakers Corner

31:00  Remembering personal details

32:00  Hospitality

34:00  Status asserted through speech

36:00  Talking at each other

39:00  Intelligent conversation

40:00  Clavicular

42:00  Sexual marketplace

45:00  Postponed gratification

48:00  Money and game

49:00  Sublimation

51:00  Celebrities

52:00  Jeremy Paxman

53:00  Celebrity status

54:00  Father figure

55:00  Sharia and the marriage license

56:00  The matriarchy

58:00  Sublimation

1:00:00  Neighbours 

Home and Away

1:01:00  Travel

1:02:00  Properly listening 

Customer Services

The Ick of idolatry and Anthropomorphism

Idolaters are irrational.

1:00  Why would any 21st century Western Man want to be pagan?

2:00  The Pantheon in Rome

3:00  Statues of deities

4:00  Departmental Deities

5:00  It would be rational to worship the Abrahamic God if we want to worship a deity. 

6:00  King of the Gods

7:00  The Ancient Greeks did not have a religion capable of resolving disputes.

8:00  Rebellion

9:00  War

John Adams, political scientist

https://clairekhaw.substack.com/p/john-adams-the-us-constitution-is?r=8t05d

11:00  Edmund Burke

13:00  Burke on the American Revolution

15:00  Burke on monarchy

16:00  Burke on the French Revolution

17:00  INTERVAL

19:00  GBCA asks to join. 

20:00  Idolatry

21:00  The laws of God

The fallacy of idolatry

22:00  Opportunity cost

23:00  GBCA says Islam is not rational. 

24:00  Third Principle of Judaism

26:00  Image of God

27:00  13 Principles of Judaism

28:00  Iconoclasm

29:00  Heresy

30:00  Penal Substitutionary Atonement

31:00  Augustine

33:00 Maximus the Confessor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximus_the_Confessor

34:00  Gnosticism

35:00  Monads

Demiurge

36:00  Christ consciousness

37:00  Monad

https://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=42&verse=11

39:00  Third Principle of Judaism

41:00  Christians worship a  Jew. 

42:00  The New Testament does not mention the Trinity. 

44:00  Greeks

45:00  Hittites

46:00  Anthropomorphism

47:00  Jews and Muslims agree on the oneness God. 

48:00  Did Paul write Hebrews?

49:00  Muhammad

50:00  Gabriel 

The definition of mental health, mumbo jumbo, Tucker's Trinintarianism, postmodernism, independent journalism, reincarnation, eugenics

 

11:41 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#1

​On the one hand, we want the protection of the group; on the other hand, we want to assert our individuality.

11:53 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​Why shouldn't everything be rational and moral?

11:53 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​Isn't it rational to be moral?

11:53 AM

@Eolson-helper

​​Yoav was explaining his interpretation of David and Basheba. Very interesting. But I was streaming your show in the side :)

11:53 AM

@teestrypzSOG

​​Who better to talk about mental health and faith than a bipolar Christian

11:54 AM

@βρεττς

​​He’s moving backwards. The people that like to talk to him seem to tell me lots

11:55 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#2

​Mark Parker has given up woo, which is marked sign of improvement, wouldn't you agree, @chrishoward8473?

11:56 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​If you just chase the woo, you are just asking to be tricked.

11:56 AM

@βρεττς

#3

​I agree partially

11:57 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

​​Better to let the woo find you…

11:59 AM

@Eolson-helper

​​I love hearing your explanation, Chris. I find myself having similar thoughts.

12:00 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​It is ridiculous to base your worldview on a funny feeling you had 20 years ago as you were walking down Camden High Street, as Marc Jackson told us.

12:01 PM

@teestrypzSOG

​​Claire stfu

12:01 PM

@βρεττς

#3

​Nathan steered that narrative off the tracks for his benefit

12:01 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​I disagree, not discussing post-partum was the elephant in the room.

12:02 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​Oh, come on, guys. It was such a boring story. "I was Christian, had a baby and nearly lost my faith and now I got it back again, yay!" So many questions unasked.

12:03 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​I agree. What questions would you have wanted asked, Claire?

12:03 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​Not the boring part, though. 😊

12:03 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​I enjoy good mental health because I believe the premises I base my beliefs on are unfalsifiable, thanks to you Christians.

12:04 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​What questions, Claire?

12:04 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@stefaniecristos8514 If I were PVK, I would have asked Beckie what made you disbelieve in God after having your baby?" He never asked this question which was what drove Mark and me crazy.

12:04 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​The next logical question is what questions were unasked

12:05 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​I agree…that’s twice, Claire. 😊

12:05 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​The independent journalist would ask the logical next question.

12:05 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​If you just prayed harder, your post partum would go away?

12:06 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​Neal and PVK have the habit of letting their guests ramble on content that content is being produced, but that does not a good conversation make.

12:06 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

​#2

​I wanted to understand if/how “fundamentalist” her Christian beliefs were.

12:06 PM

@teestrypzSOG

​​Lmao why’s Neal catching strays

12:07 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@stefaniecristos8514 Mark was complaining that PVK never even asked if it was post partum depression and clearly wanted the listener to think it was some miracle of faith or something.

12:08 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​what triggered Chris was someone in TLC dare question the cult leader's toxicity and not tow the line of blind faith in the group identity of censored obedience

12:08 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@stefaniecristos8514 Anglicans really do not take their faith seriously. I have been introduced to enough of them who are almost embarrassed to be Anglican and openly wonder what it all means.

12:10 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​The values of TLC are Christian Fellowship. To maintain this, hard questions cannot be asked and the leader cannot be questioned.

12:10 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​in a cult, you can't question the cult guru

12:10 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​Oh I think if you don’t wonder, you are not taking it seriously.

12:11 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@stefaniecristos8514 It's a class thing in the UK - a badge of being middle class eg high church, low church, Methodist. In America you have blue church, red church, which is so crazy.

12:12 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​Claire I asked you about your trusting Tucker even though he is a trinitarian. But you say we are not to be trusted because we are trinitarians. You have not answered your illlogical double standard

12:12 PM

@βρεττς

​​Red Church Blue Church has primarily been over empathizing with you agnostics.

12:12 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@stefaniecristos8514 Yeah, I take it more seriously than Christians. I actually care which Christian denomination is "best" while you people are indifferent.

12:13 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​how dare MDP or Nathan question PVK's performance of profilicity

12:13 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​Yes, it can be a social status thing. More presidents were Episcopalian, or at least “mainline”

12:14 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@Eolson-helper Tucker is the only an independent journalist allowed to operate at a high level, it seems. He actually said Episcopalians are weakest in belief.

12:14 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​Claire- you pick and chose your definitions - like making up definitions of matriarchy and patriarchy- which is a post modern mover…

12:14 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​PVK exploits randos all the time- eg Freddie and Paul show

12:14 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​And post modernism is not based on logic or rationality. Therefore your are not logical or rational

12:14 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​Eolson wins the debate point hands down, sorry to say.

12:14 PM

@Jzepp

​​A benefit that can be missed of a Rando is for the Rando to just tell their story. Articulating their story allows them to recognize the meaning in those events. They come to terms with what happened.

12:15 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​He is not the only independent one. He is the only one you are willing to grovel at his feet for.

12:15 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​PVK is about getting viewers and subscribers through promoting mediocrities, not the well-being of his flock.

12:15 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​Don’t worship at the feet of a trinitarian claire

12:15 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@Eolson-helper What other independent journalists have you identified?

12:16 PM

@Jzepp

​​If PVK was seeking views his show would be totally different. That’s absurd.

12:16 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​A myriad. You just have to be willing to look. You are willing to look aren’t you?

12:16 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@stefaniecristos8514 What is the topic of the debate?

12:16 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@Eolson-helper You can't even name one, can you?

12:17 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​all denominational clergy deferr to medical experts, hence why to be ordained they must be examined prior to chrism unction and oaths

12:17 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​You can’t explain your worship of a trinitarian, can you?

12:17 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@Jzepp What would his show be like?

12:17 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​likewise, when I wad married in sacramental church, we had marriage counseling with psychologist per priest requirements

12:18 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@Eolson-helper How is identifying Tucker as an independent journalist worship of Tucker?

12:19 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​The debate issue is “are Claire’s stated beliefs coherent”

12:19 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​Because you Claire him as a source of truth. And hold him to a double standard. He is a trinitarian isn’t he? You said the Koran says you can’t trust a trinitarian, does it not?…

12:19 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​The primary rule of Gestalt theory is that the whole is different from, or greater than, the sum of its parts.

12:19 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#3

​@stefaniecristos8514 What would you say are my stated beliefs?

12:19 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​It’s ok that they are not, actually I am glad for it. Love and hugs.

12:20 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​So the only explaintion is that you trust him more than the Koran. This worship is it not? Prove to me you don’t worship his statements.

12:21 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​Claire is just afraid to address my post modernism criticism.

12:21 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@Eolson-helper Tucker is the only independent journalist I know, Trinitarian or not. You cannot think of another independent journalist which shows how interested you are in independent journalism.

12:22 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@Eolson-helper Define postmodernism.

12:22 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​I’d earlier.

12:23 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​that's a difference between mainline denominations vs evangelical mega church cults

12:23 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​Independent journalist should not be above the Koran according to you. Therefore you value independent journalism more than your beliefs.

12:23 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@chrishoward8473 Rabbi Mizrachi says mental illness is caused by atheism ie rejection of God.

12:23 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@Eolson-helper What has Tucker said that contradicts the Koran?

12:24 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​Claire’s afraid to admit she values an independent journalist high than the Koran, do you not?

12:24 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​He’s a trinitarian.

12:24 PM

@βρεττς

​​Scott’s nailing it now. No suffering no need for a savior.

12:24 PM

@SeekingGenuine

​#1

​Yea Scott, you need to tears the muscle fibers the get stronger

12:24 PM

@Jzepp

#2

​The value in suffering would be a great topic to discuss more deeply Scott.

12:25 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#3

​I suffer from wanting to avoid suffering.

12:25 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@Eolson-helper I have forgotten your bizarre definition of postmodernism.

12:25 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​prosperity gospel push personal revelation for health and wealth "miracles"

12:25 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#3

​I agree, Zepp

12:25 PM

@βρεττς

​​PVK said it the best. I got an upgrade.

12:26 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​It is earlier in the chat. I detest having to double type because someone doesn’t have the ability to scroll up just so they can make a cheap debate point.

12:26 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@Eolson-helper I don't tar all Trinitarians with the same brush. Some people are only nominally Trinitarian.

12:26 PM

@SeekingGenuine

#1

​Our way of addressing mental health is to mitigate the symptoms and not get the to the crux of the issue

12:26 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​"dear lord, please increase the materialistic value of these baseball cards"

12:27 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​Claire, are you saying the Koran is wrong then? It doesn’t delineate with nominal trinitarians.

12:27 PM

@Jzepp

#2

​One benefit of a proper Rando is that as the Rando tells their story, it allows them to understand the meaning in the suffering they experienced.

12:27 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@Eolson-helper You should do a stream on postmodernism.

12:27 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#3

​A beautiful mind?

12:27 PM

@Jzepp

​#2

​That’s it Stef.

12:27 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​Not interested Claire. Thats your struggle.

12:28 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@Eolson-helper Even a compulsive liar occasionally tells the truth. I don't think you are always wrong on everything.

12:28 PM

@YawnGod

​​I hallucinate that I'm always wrong...which means that I am always wrong? 🤔

12:28 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​psychologist doesn't prescribe medicine, psychiatrist do

12:29 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@Eolson-helper You didn't define postmodernism here on this stream in the chat, did you?

12:29 PM

@Eolson-helper

​​Thanks Claire. The same can be said of you and Tucker :)

12:29 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@Eolson-helper What is Tucker wrong about?

12:30 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​is that yawngod, or am I having an ayahuasca trip flashback? lol

12:30 PM

@βρεττς

​​We’re OK with the smart guy torturing himself for our benefit. Seems a little cruel to not tell him the truth.

12:31 PM

@YawnGod

​​Lying on the floor for a week with a broken hip is an excellent exercise for centering one's priorities.

12:33 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​We still haven't defined mental health! @chrishoward8473

12:34 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​In case anyone's interested, I have streamed about it.

12:35 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​There must be an objective measure of good and bad mental health more than just feeling unhappy about things!

12:35 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​"good cult leaders have blonde hair and blue eyes, is what they should look like" lol 😆

12:37 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​"Nordic myths good, Bantu myths bad" ~Bam Bam from tge Flintstones

12:37 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@VanWeasley-e8s Sigh! I am just trying to tell white people that Chritianity has failed them time and time again but they are refusing to see it.

12:38 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​Idolatry is a logical fallacy.

12:38 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​Claire, logical coherence and moral consistency isn't the strong suit of European colonialists hahaha 😆

12:39 PM

@YawnGod

​​Are Gazan Christians abomination?

12:39 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@VanWeasley-e8s But they used to be so rational!

12:39 PM

@YawnGod

​​Are Lebanese and West Bank Christians abomination? I know what needs to be done with abominations, according to The Bible, of course 😉

12:40 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@YawnGod Gazans Christians or not could be expiating their ancestral sins.

12:40 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#1

​@YawnGod Reincarnation is an explanation for suffering.

12:41 PM

@YawnGod

​​@OfficialSecularKoranism Like...existing? It's your fault if you exist. I can see the solution 🪦

12:42 PM

@Jzepp

#3

​If facts and logic, rationalism is the highest calling, what religion is that?

12:43 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

​​I always thought that’s what the hard core atheists believed in….

12:43 PM

@Jzepp

#3

​I would argue that it was precisely the reliance on rationalism that lead to Eugenics.

12:44 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#1

​@YawnGod The idea of reincarnation is people in their next life have their just deserts ie if you've led a bad life you're going to be reincarnated as being in a worse position than your current life

12:44 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​#1

​@Jzepp Islam is absolutely logical.

12:44 PM

@YawnGod

​​@OfficialSecularKoranism I wonder who I was before...🤔

12:44 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#1

​@Jzepp Marriage is eugenic.

12:44 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

​​Claire’s buddy argued for eugenics on a recent live stream.

12:45 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​Social Darwinism created rationale to justify the bigotry of Religious Christian Black Codes and chattel slavery

12:45 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#1

​@YawnGod Are you enjoying life?

12:46 PM

@YawnGod

​​@OfficialSecularKoranism Relative to a land snail? 🐌 Yeah.

12:46 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​eg Curse of Ham doctrines became prevalent during Trans Atlantic Slave Trade

12:46 PM

@YawnGod

​​@OfficialSecularKoranism How can I enjoy life if you are sad 😥🤔

12:46 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#1

​@stefaniecristos8514 I suppose you mean Vincent Bruno my occasional streaming partner. He rejects patriarchy and his ideas about eugenics dispenses with marriage, which he cannot accept is unworkable.

12:46 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

​​Van, what say you about the Christian abolitionists?

12:47 PM

@Jzepp

#3

​Pure logic and reason leads to Eugenics. Why wouldn’t it?

12:47 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​Christian abolitionist reneged on their promises

12:47 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#1

​@Jzepp Marriage is already eugenic.

12:47 PM

@YawnGod

​@Jzepp Not wrong!

12:47 PM

@Jzepp

#3

​How is marriage eugenic?

12:48 PM

@YawnGod

​​It gets really meta when you marry someone *specifically* so that they don't find a reproductive partner to reproduce with. That's meta. 🤔

12:49 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

​​Van, why did I know nothing positive would be said. Sad.

12:50 PM

@Smithistory

​​that's how you can recognize bad faith. Give the devil his due at least.

12:51 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#1

​@Jzepp You don't see that you are more likely to be marriageable if your parents were married to each other than if they were never married to each other? Marriageability is a eugenic heritable trait.

12:51 PM

@VanWeasley-e8s

​​stef, if I were to treat the subject, I would be very nuanced, but a quick stream reply has to be short and sweet and to the point.. but im obviously appreciate abolitionist despite my disappointments