Monday, 31 August 2026

Is Vincent Bruno trying to prove the Trinity?

From 5:00 

6:00  The ruling classes using the brand of a religion claiming to be an Islamic State may well be fraudulent eg when they go against Koranic principles. 

7:00  Shura

8:00  Islam has a book of rules that allows Muslims to know if their rulers are on the right or wrong side of Koranic principles. 

9:00  Secular Koranism

Gulf Arabs live under absolute monarchies. 

11:00  The attributes of an eternal God

12:00  "pseudo-temporal"

13:00  God is eternal. 

14:00  The logic of the proposition of the Abrahamic God being absolutely powerful and perfectly moral. 

16:00  The meaning of change

18:00  Can God become Jesus?

Christians refuse to say this stream is about identifying your internal enemies by calling out their heresy


11:07 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​How can idolaters who worship a man be doing the right thing with regard to their afterlife?

11:08 AM
@Eolson-helper
​​not being discussed

11:08 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Brett talked about "doing the right thing".

11:08 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​Moral courage is admitting that you might be wrong, Ron

11:08 AM
@Eolson-helper
​​in ref matt 18:15-20

11:09 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​Religion is not just "chasing the woo" like you are chasing rainbows.

11:12 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​If you see Christians - who are the world's most powerful and biggest religious group pretending to worship a Jew executed for blasphemy as the co-equal of God, shouldn't you say something?

11:13 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​If Jews and Muslims are too fearful of these warlike Christians to point out the idolatry of the Trinity, I must reluctantly step into the breach because no one else is going to do it, are they?

11:13 AM
@Eolson-helper
​​there name is Christian - hopefully we don't pretend

11:14 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​A cohesive group is when members of the group are agreed on the beliefs, values and principles of that religion. Christianity has no codified principles and Christians hate discussing principles.

11:15 AM
@Eolson-helper
​​So you say. not my experience with you though.

11:15 AM
@teestrypzSOG
​​that's such a cool way of animefying PVK's vocation "He's carrying the skill of three generations of men who are able to cut you deeply"

11:15 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​If you are a Trinitarian Christian, you are supposed to worship the Trinity. Jews and Muslims think it is idolatry but Christians never care because they don't think God exists to punish them.

11:16 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@Eolson-helper What is not your experience with me?

11:17 AM
@teestrypzSOG
​​the message matters more than where it's coming from

11:17 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​The medium is the message.

11:17 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​PVK is atheist.

11:17 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
​well the goodness of the message matters more than where it's coming from

11:18 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​It is easier to judge truth than "goodness".

11:19 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Let us not distract ourselves with definitions of good and bad faith. When people accuse you of arguing in bad faith, it is because they hate what you say but have no counter-arguments.

11:19 AM
@teestrypzSOG
​​what is a woman? A woman, like a man is also a receiver of information?

11:20 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​A true Christian is a Muslim.

11:20 AM
@Eolson-helper
​​OSK - do not remember me? don't talk about your 'general Christian' engaged with me and what you remember from our conversations

11:20 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​@Eolson-helper I have no idea what you are referring to.

11:22 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​It's always vague stuff and never concrete examples.

11:22 AM
@teestrypzSOG
​​Olson, she doesn't speak to people, she speaks to a strawman version of themodels the person represents.

11:22 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​This is just Christians playing at being humble at not discussing anything worthwhile.

11:23 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​This stream should be titled HOW TO DEAL WITH YOUR INTERNAL ENEMIES.

11:23 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
​'coming to you as a brother" and "coming to you as a woman" mean such different things 😂

11:23 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#1
​Claire, are you backstage?

11:23 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Christians don't want to discuss anything or even appear to be discussing anything worthwhile.

11:24 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@teestrypzSOG No. I actually hate waiting for my turn to speak.

11:24 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Eolson-helper Don't you agree with my suggested title?

11:26 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#2
​@teestrypzSOG I don't want to raise the hackles on @Eolson-helper's neck and make him say "Now, now, Claire, you mustn't talk about anything in your book if I allow you to speak."

11:27 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​The best way to deal with your internal enemies in your group is use the rules. But Christians have no codified principles, oh dear!

11:28 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#1
​I hope to see the look on your face moments before and after your knees bow and your tongue declares that "Jesus is Lord"

11:28 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​How can Christians enforce principles they don't have?

11:29 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​@teestrypzSOG I hope to see the look on your face the moment you realise God is not Jesus.

11:30 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Christians don't fear excommunication because there are so many other churches they could go to. Christianity is a group with no leader and no powers of expulsion.

11:30 AM
@YoavBressler
​​I like seeing the look s on your faces here and now when we are just us mortals.

11:30 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
​maybe I'm right, maybe you're wrong. We'll find out the day after the world ends (I wouldn't recommend waiting that long to make Christ Lord of your life).

11:31 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
​who'll get stung first?

11:31 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​@teestrypzSOG Jews and Muslims agree on the oneness of God. This means God is 66% more likely to be what they think than be a man called Jesus.

11:33 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#1
​I have already explained the purpose of the Trinity : to allow Christians to win the argument against Jews who will say their God of Israel is more powerful than the crucified Christ.

11:34 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​@teestrypzSOG I am just trying to tell Westerners that idolatry is its own punishment even if God does not exist to punish anyone for anything.

11:34 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​@Eolson-helper When will you discuss the OPPORTUNITY COST of not being rightly guided by the Koran?

11:35 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#2
​I want to be like Olson when I grow up

11:35 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#2
​Ha! I have done more for Christian Fellowship than PVK!

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Dealing With Sin in the Church
15 “If your brother or sister[b] sins,[c] go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’[d] 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

18 “Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be[e] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[f] loosed in heaven.

19 “Again, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”

Jews and Muslims have a duty to tell Christians that they are guilty of the mortal sin of idolatry.

When these Christians shrug their shoulders indifferently, Jews and Muslims should point out that hypocrites are Hell-bound, according to the Koran. 

When these Christians again shrug their shoulders indifferently because they do not think God exists to punish anyone for anything, ask Christians why they pretend to worship a man executed for blasphemy. 

When these Christians say they only identify with Christianity because of Western imperialism, propose Islamic imperial reform through Secular Koranism with American Characteristics and point out to them that the best Christian is a Muslim since Islam accepts the prophethood of Jesus and the Virgin Birth. 

13:00 Christian: "In one or two generations, there won't be any Christians."

 

Islam is absolutely logical making it easier to believe once Christians give up their Christian chauvinism. Jews and Muslims can help them by asking them how Christianity is not idolatry and how Jesus is God as often as possible while reminding them that hypocrites are Hell-bound. Hypocrites pretend to believe in something they don't to make people think they are morally superior to being atheist. Nihilism comes from atheism. Our ruling classes consist of atheists, nihilists, narcissists and neocons.

Sunday, 30 August 2026

Peter Boghossian, Nathan Cofnas and justice delayed


11:44 AM
@Eolson-helper
#1
​Claire says it’s the unofficial religion of America

11:50 AM
@Eolson-helper
#1
​Not a fan of Peter P.

11:58 AM
@Jzepp
#2
​Peter B interviewed PVK at some point.

12:00 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​Islam is absolutely logical.

12:01 PM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​The five world religions are for social engineering patriarchy. You have more of a chance of solving problems with facts and logic if you are a patriarchy.

12:01 PM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Matriarchy is a society of immoral men submitting to immoral women.

12:05 PM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Fascism is a desire for national unity.

12:05 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#2
​What does PB say about Islam?

12:05 PM
@Jzepp
#2
​Whenever people are too focused on urgency, I feel like I’m being sold something. “This deal will expire!”

12:05 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​The power of suggestion is powerful and insidious.

12:09 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​Peter Boghossian characterizes radical Islam and Islamism as presenting a unique challenge to Western civilization and liberal democracy.

12:10 PM
@Jzepp
#3
​Where do I stand in this story is such a good way to read Bible stories. If we are honest, we are not always the hero!

12:10 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​I must introduce myself to Peter Boghossian.

12:11 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Olson should support sharia USA.

12:11 PM
@Jzepp
#1
​You should definitely speak with Peter Boghossian @OOOTLAM. I would watch that conversation!

12:12 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​It is so obvious that so many problems Americans mention could be solved by sharia, but their bone deep Islamophobia prevents them from entertaining this idea.

12:12 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@Jzepp I am pretty sure I have already tried and he just ignored me.

12:13 PM
@Jzepp
#1
​I think it may be Americans devotion to freedom that is the bigger reason the avoid sharia.

12:13 PM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​We want the rule of law, not vigilantism.

12:14 PM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​@Jzepp Too much freedom leads right back to to the law of the jungle.

12:18 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​I have just sent Peter Boghossian a message. He happens to be reaching out to American Muslims too.

12:18 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​There is already Secular Koranism for justice.

12:19 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​What does Ian think of the Noahide laws?

12:21 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​@VanWeasley-e8s My objective is to get rabbis to rank the four gentile religions according to their conformity with the Noahide laws so Christians get the hint.

12:22 PM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​@chrishoward8473 America no longer upholds the Noahide law forbidding theft.

12:23 PM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​We should expect to be punished by God if we break His laws.

12:24 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Justice must not only be done, it must be seen to be done.

12:26 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@chrishoward8473 The Culture War prevents Americans agreeing on the principles of justice because the matriarchy promotes social justice.

12:28 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@chrishoward8473 There is a certain reticence in discussing Lindsay Clancy

12:28 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​The patriarchy and matriarchy would have different ideas of justice.

12:29 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​Dr. King stated in his Letter from Birmingham Jail that white moderates were a major stumbling block for the civil rights movement because they prioritized order and should be patient for justice ⚖

12:29 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Moral men and moral women should have no disagreement on matters of morality. Are there no moral men and moral women now?

12:30 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​There are no moral philosophers interested in discussing morality, are there?

12:31 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​I dont think most bigots even know when, where, how or why modern concept of "race" emerged

12:31 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Can race be your religion?

12:32 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​It is so obvious that race cannot be your religion if you study the history of White People.

12:32 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​dont choke on your karma in the middle of the night

12:33 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Even the most rabid racists would have to admit that not all white people support racism.

12:34 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​@VanWeasley-e8s Bigots are basically people who only understand what they see and are not adept at abstract thinking.

12:35 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Cofnas will never be able to prove his "scientific racism".

12:36 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​All empires are by definition civic nationalist. America is an empire.

12:36 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​claire, exactly 💯, and TLC is a safe space for their bigotry to fester like gangrene

12:36 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Of course it is true that justice delayed is justice denied.

12:38 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​They can't win any argument though. They can only withhold their cooperation.

12:39 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​The fact that they won't have an honest and rational discussion about anything is evidence that they already know they cannot win.

12:42 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​I dealt with PVK saying he was ignoring facts and logic because he thought Christianity is enough for him and other Christians in my stream entitled IS PRETENDING TO BE CHRISTIAN HELPING AMERICANS?

12:43 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​@VanWeasley-e8s We can only work with the available human resources.

12:45 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​There is a verse in the Koran that says God will not change the lot of those who do not change what is in their hearts.

12:46 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​"Is pretending to be Christian doing Americans any good?" is the title.

12:47 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​Christians are politically inert because they think praying to Jesus is going to protect them.

12:48 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​"Justice delayed is justice denied" is people complaining about the law's delay.

12:49 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​Even if you believe in God, you should still support a fair and efficient legal system.

12:50 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​@VanWeasley-e8s I don't think people here are that low IQ, are they? I have however noticed that graduates of Bible College are not the brightest bulb in the box.

12:52 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​I have been trying to explain why the Western ruling classes are corrupt and incompetent, atheists and nihilists.

12:54 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​There is in theory a better system but no one will ask the obvious next question.

12:56 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​I think PVK was saying in 1:01:00 on his video on WHY RELIGIONS WORK that he was expecting to be hunted down by TLC if he was anything other than a Calvinist.

12:56 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​I think making themselves believe Jesus is God causes low IQ.

12:57 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​@VanWeasley-e8s Did you listen to Mark Parker yesterday?

12:59 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​@VanWeasley-e8s I joined later.

1:00 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​They are just directing all their energy refusing to ask the obvious next question.

1:01 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​PVK gets what I am saying but is asking "What's in it for me?"

1:02 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​I join Mark Parker from 1:29:00

1:03 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​@VanWeasley-e8s It is easy to prove PVK is functionally atheist as Christians inevitably have to be to stay Christian.

1:04 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#1
​You can't really trust atheists pretending to be Christian.

Does God want idolaters to set aside a day specially for worshiping a Jew?


11:12 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​The Sabbath is really only for Jews, but Christians stole their scripture. Talk about cultural appropriation!

11:14 AM
@OOOTLAM
​​Christians took Jewish scripture off the hands of Jews and did exactly what it tells them not to do: practise idolatry.

11:14 AM
@YoavBressler
​​The Cristian Sunday is nothing like the Jewish Saturday. To each their own.

11:15 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Seventh Day Adventists are Trinitarians who want to celebrate the Sabbath on Saturday.

11:15 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#3
​Adventist Sabbatarianism is a distinct variant from First-Day Sabbatarianism

11:15 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
​Christians don't really worship the Trinity. They only pretend to. That's why they don't give a damn that idolatry is mortal sin.

11:16 AM
@YoavBressler
​​They were used to be call Sobotniks in east Europe. Some even joined Israel and became famous generals.

11:16 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Atheism is so bone deep in Christians that they literally cannot imagine an afterlife when they meet God and realise he is not Jesus.

11:16 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#1
​ie Puritan Sabbatarianism differed from the Continental Reformed Sabbath and the history of Sunday blue laws.

11:17 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Christians talk about their heaven as being full of filthy rags and other hypocrites like themselves. It is no surprise that they don't want to go there after becoming atheist.

11:18 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Why don't Christians care that idolatry is a mortal sin making them Hell-bound? It is because they don't really believe God exists to punish anyone for anything.

11:19 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Why then do they pretend to be Christian? It must be something to do with their three global empires. At heart, they think might is right. After all that idea has served them for 1700 years.

11:20 AM
@YoavBressler
#1
​Are you saying that a true Christian does not believe in Christianity, Claire?

11:20 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#1
​Pope Clement XII first prohibited Catholic membership in Masonic organizations, which is in part, a variable in why Adventists and some Baptists went hard against the Catholic doctrine, "Lord's Day"

11:21 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​It is the easiest thing to prove that Christians are functionally atheist. In fact, I can easily prove that PVK is atheist and only full of worldly concerns.

11:22 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​@YoavBressler A "true Christian" worships the Trinity as the co-equal of God which Jews and Muslims think is shituf and the unforgivable sin of associating partners with God.

11:23 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​@YoavBressler The only explanation for Christians being indifferent to idolatry being a mortal sin is conclusive evidence that they do not worship the Abrahamic God who forbade idolatry and blasphemy.

11:24 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#1
​cornucopia is a personification of Africa as the breadbasket of Rome

11:24 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​@YoavBressler Christians would be better Christians as Muslims since Islam accepts the Virgin Birth and the prophethood of Jesus. The reason why Christians won't accept this bargain is Islamophobia.

11:27 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​How about a Christian Koran Book Club?

11:28 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#1
​Christian traditions like Catholicism, Anglicanism, Orthodoxy organize their spiritual year around holy days and feasts... Bee making the liturgy great again, next thing you know Calvinists repent lol

11:29 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​How about going through the Book of Common Prayer and taking all references of the Trinity out of it? That would be fun!

11:29 AM
@Jzepp
​​You guys meet so regularly, you could almost do the Bible in a year concept…

11:30 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#1
​Claire, we don't need anymore pseudo Anglicans running around

11:31 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​@TonyTigerGreat Anglicans are Trinitarians too.

11:31 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​If you speak English, use the BPC, by all means.

11:32 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#1
​mystery rites are sacred not meant to be disgraced for online entertainment

11:32 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​The BPC is derived from the Old Sarum Rite which was Catholic anyway.

11:32 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​@TonyTigerGreat Can you give examples of mystery rites?

11:34 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​"Discipling"? Does Brett think he should have disciples?

11:35 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​The most useful thing Christians could do for themselves is to ask what they think is the nature and purpose of religion. They are not capable of this, it seems.

11:36 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Do Christians think Christianity is the best religion in the world? If so, why?

11:36 AM
@Jzepp
#3
​It a bit of a Cartesian view that the meaning is only in the intention. It’s been my experience that idea is very Protestant. Catholics/Orthodox have an easier time with reverence.

11:36 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Is there a way of determining which religion is best?

11:37 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#1
​well, Ancient mystery rites were religious societies in the Greco-Roman world with initiation rituals - ie sacraments are rites of passages into the mysteries of "The Temple"

11:39 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​The Abrahamic God who forbade idolatry if He exists would prefer gentiles not to go out of their way to reserve one day to practise idolatry, I imagine.

11:40 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#1
​Each mystery rite tradition typically have their own liturgical materials for their initiation ceremonies so for those outside of "The Body " should not take their meaning lightly

11:41 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​How about American Christians devoting Sunday to asking whether the Founding Fathers were responsible for the end of Christendom in 1918 and whether this was a good thing?

11:41 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#1
​eg why would someone who is not Freemason read Freemasonic rite materials online?

11:42 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​The Koran does not mention gentiles observing the Sabbath and condemns Jews for not observing it.

11:43 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​How does being Christian help Americans?

11:43 AM
@Jzepp
#3
​Maybe sabbath has 2 parts in the modern day. A day to not do some things, like work, and a day to do other things, like church or prayer. -1 +1?

11:43 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#1
​during chrism unction, the priest slaps you for a reason

11:44 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Do Christians know how many authors wrote the New Testament? NOPE. Why should they trust any of them? None of them were Jesus, let alone God.

11:45 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Isn't Christianity a luxury belief?

11:45 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Liberalism is another luxury belief.

11:46 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Can Americans still afford their luxury beliefs of Christo-Liberalism?

11:47 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​@TonyTigerGreat Christians love their mumbo jumbo and hocus pocus.

11:47 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#1
​modern Liberalism is harkening back to the ancient Greek Liberal Arts and Sciences, hence German Enlightenment was part of the European Renaissance looking back to Hellenism

11:47 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#1
​hence why universities call themselves "Liberal Arts and Sciences"

11:48 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Jews use the Sabbath to think of being Jewish.

11:48 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Why use mumbo jumbo when you can understand God through logic and law?

11:49 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Ian's father is a pastor, isn't he? Ian has given up on the church. May we know why?

11:50 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​@TonyTigerGreat "Liberal Arts and Sciences" is the antithesis of "Christology".

11:51 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​Notice that Christians don't even call their theology theology. They have to call it "Christology" requiring them to believe that Jesus is God while forbidding them to question this.

11:52 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
​#1
​Latin Germanic Christendom shunned Greek LA&S tradition until Aquinas was influenced by Moorish Islam

Is pretending to be Christian doing Americans any good?




Paul Vanderklay from 1:01:00:

That goes back to Chris Howard that they will not be budged.  
Why? Because you think so? Well, let's say you kick out the slats of their axiom. They look at that. they can anticipate that and they're like, "No, what is it costing me to believe in the Noah's Ark story that I saw in a Bible story book if all kinds of other good wellness is connected to that and it's keeping my worldview whole so that I go  to work every day. I'm faithful to my wife. I support my church. I have the esteem of the other people in my church. You want me to throw this away because you've you know you've got some theory about the Black Sea perhaps or you don't believe it's a global flood or the Epic of Gilgamesh has said so. I see this as confirmation and you see this as an alternative story. Why should I buy your alternative story? 
This isn't this isn't an argument in favor of my version of Christianity. it's exactly the same if a Dutch Calvinist missionary comes up to a Muslim and he's saying, "Yeah, what? I'm going to become a Christian now and go back to my country and be hunted down if I tell anybody about it?" I'm not sure I want to go on your train because of your so-called rationality. It isn't reasonable for the rest of my life." 
Now, that doesn't mean, of course, that there aren't many people who are beloved by their own religious tradition who say, "I I risked everything for the truth." And and it also doesn't say that you know that truth is relative. It's just saying that you have to understand people within all of these aspects of their lives and there are various motivations by which they do all kinds of things.
I think people are having trouble understanding that SK USA is not a belief system. If it were a belief system, it would require people who support it to believe in a particular narrative, but SK USA uncompromisingly supports the First Amendment with 2:256. This means it is never intended to be anything other than a legal system. Claiming that it is a belief system would make it an established religion thereby infringing the First Amendment, which is something to be avoided if SK is to be SK USA. 

American Christians are still Christian because they believe it is the most powerful religious group in the world and the reason why Christians acquired three global empires, but they are functionally atheist making them easy to bribe and threaten. Perhaps that is how the powers that be want them.

The concerns here expressed are worldly, and nothing to do with how you will account for yourself with God were there to be an afterlife in which you discover that Jesus is not God. 

This is the last thing on their minds. I doubt Christians are even able to imagine themselves in such a situation, so bone-deep is their atheism.

You do not believe in God if you do not believe in the afterlife. 

The whole point of believing in God is to make it logical to believe that good will be rewarded and evil punished in this life and the next because God exists and has the power to do such things.   

It is not enough to worship Jesus (which is any case idolatry according to Jews and Muslims), you must believe that a morally perfect and absolutely omnipotent God exists to reward good and punish evil so that you believe that whatever good you do will be rewarded and whatever evil your enemies commit against you will be properly punished. 

That is the whole point of the Abrahamic God if you believe He was created by Man to assist him in his government and politics. 

And if you believe God actually exists, then you had to be mindful of any mortal sins you commit that might make you Hell-bound, hadn't you?  Idolatry is a mortal sin. This is because if you worship a deity other than the one who forbade idolatry and blasphemy, you are committing a mortal sin. 

And if you don't believe in any of that sort of thing, then you are in fact atheist.

2:00  MONOLOGUE begins. 

5:00  Chris Howard

9:00  The fear of discussing Christianity properly

10:00  Personal identity is linked to the principles we hold and the objective we have. 

11:00  I care about Christianity more than Christians care about their theological principles. 

12:00  The moral infection of idolatry

13:00  I am testing SK USA to destruction. 

14:00  Christians ignoring facts and logic. 

Christians lack a dispute resolution process. 

15:00  PVK refuses to condemn never married mothers. 

16:00  Culture wars

17:00  Washington's farewell speech

Slavery and prostitution

18:00  Taking God literally

Is there anyone in charge of America?

19:00  Driver is dead or asleep at the wheel. 

20:00  Speed - the movie

It is impossible to wake someone who is pretending to be asleep.

21:00  Muslims in TLC

22:00  PVK: What's in it for me?

23:00  Will TLC hunt down PVK from entertaining SK USA?

Is pretending to be Christian doing Americans any good?

24:00  What would happen if most Americans Christians became  Catholic? Would they magically get better government? What about Episcopalian? Why would Americans be loyal to the British monarch who is Supreme  Governor of the Church of England? Why would Americans become Orthodox Christians when Orthodox Christianity no longer even has an Orthodox Christian monarch whose divine right they are supposed to defend?

I am proposing the reconstituting the American constitution. 

25:00  The American Republic was built on Islamic foundations. 

26:00  The Greater Jihad is the struggle with oneself. 

28:00  Islam is absolutely logical. 

Jews cannot prove that the Torah is better than the Koran. 

30:00  What is the current political orthodoxy of America?

Saturday, 29 August 2026

Speculating about the administration of heaven


1:29:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins to discuss the sandwich method and pincer movement.

1:32:00  "The Jesus of our imaginations"

1:37:00  God is not scary if He is Jesus.

1:40:00  Love thy enemy.

ICE agents

1:55:00  Lindsay Clancy

1:57:00  The problem of evil

1:58:00  Murder is a mortal sin. 

AI Overview

Why shouldn't the Prosecutor in the Lindsay Clancy case have asked her ex-mother in law if she knew murder was a mortal sin?

During the cross-examination of Susan Clancy in the Lindsay Clancy murder trial, prosecutor Shanan Buckingham asked the former mother-in-law if she knew murder was a "mortal sin". 

Legal experts and the court heavily criticized this question, deeming it highly improper for several foundational legal and procedural reasons: 
1. It is Legally Irrelevant and Inadmissible
Under standard rules of evidence, a witness's understanding of religious dogma or theological concepts is completely irrelevant to a criminal case. Susan Clancy's personal Catholic beliefs have no bearing on the legal definitions of murder or the sanity of the defendant. 

2. It Leverages Highly Prejudicial Religious Bias
By introducing the concept of a mortal sin, the prosecution was viewed as trying to weaponise religious guilt against a witness who was offering supportive testimony for the defence. Legal analysis noted that the question carried an unfair inference: if you are a faithful Catholic, you are religiously bound to condemn Lindsay Clancy completely and believe she "deserves to die for it," bypassing objective legal standards. 

3. It Imposed an Improper Moral Standard on the Jury
Courts are strictly bound by statutory law, not religious canon. Attempting to substitute a "moral baseline" or religious code for the actual legal requirements of the trial—especially in a case centred on postpartum psychosis and the legal definition of sanity—is entirely out of bounds. 

4. It Targeted the Wrong Person
Susan Clancy was on the stand, not the defendant. Asking a witness about their personal awareness of a religious sin does not legally prove what the defendant was thinking, understood, or capable of processing at the time of the tragedy. 

The Court's Immediate Reaction
The question caused an immediate "collective gasp" in the courtroom. Judge William Sullivan immediately intervened, cutting off the exchange before Susan Clancy could answer, calling for an immediate sidebar, and ordering the question stricken from the record. He later sternly admonished the jury that the defendant's and witnesses' religious background was an "absolutely inappropriate area of testimony" and must be entirely disregarded.

2:00:00  Medea by Euripides

2:02:00  Killing

2:04:00  Crime of Passion

2:07:00  Isaiah 45:7: God created good and evil.

2:17:00  The Examination

2:18:00  St Peter's Gate

Filthy Rags

2:19:00  We are slaves of sin.

2:21:00  Repentance

2:22:00  Jonah

2:23:00  Christian Heaven

2:24:00  Mark sharing heaven with Candace Owens, J D Vance and Trump?

2:27:00  Pascal's Wager

2:29:00  The purpose of God

2:30:00  Purgatory

2:31:00  Christopher Hitchens

2:32:00  Abrahamic religions are organised religions. 

2:33:00  Hitler

2:34:00  "Jesus wished ... "

"God repented of ... " 

2:36:00  God is love. 

2:37:00  Hitler in Heaven

2:38:00  Christian Universalism

2:39:00  Bodhisattva

2:45:00  Fun to speculate about heaven

Further reflections on American men - normie and non-normie


Are religious men more likely to fight than atheists?


7:00  Is a political theorist a political activist?

8:00  Doomer Zoomer

12:00  Culture War

13:00  Dissident  Right cannot have a discussion either.

14:00  Cultural Critics

15:00  No leader and don't want a leader. 

16:00  Debating Society

17:00  Christian Heaven

Emunah and Bitachon 

19:00  Secular Koranism

20:00  Sharia

21:00  Muslims and Jews questioning the Trinity

22:00  Matriarchy

23:00  Unwanted pregnancy

Unofficial polygamy



29:00  Critical mass
32:00  Thomas White
35:00  Hobbies
39:00  Government consultant
40:00  Wife Swap, Blind Date
Keyboard Army
41:00  Art galleries and wine tasting
42:00  Car mechanics
Evening classes
43:00  Freemasons made America great. 
Debating society
44:00  Toastmasters
48:00  Zombie religion
49:00  True believers and free riders
50:00  A Debating Trio
51:00  Dance classes
55:00  Obedience
59:00  Christian Heaven
1:01:00  Optimism is a survival strategy. 
1:02:00  Making arguments

A one-party state supported by Washington

1:03:00  Koranic heaven described by Allah. 

" In WarTime Fire your PeaceTime Foundation is Revealed"


13:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins to discuss the definition of war.
14:00  Identifying internal enemies
15:00  Philosophical analysis
16:00  Discussing theology
18:00  Fake it till you make it. 
21:00  Certain phrases
22:00  Hypocrisy
26:00  Brett: Why would anyone want to go to church?
27:00  AA hierarchy
30:00  Luke Thompson
31:00  The fakers
41:00  War and peace
48:00  Reason for existence
49:00  True believers in the afterlife > free riders
50:00  Culture War 
51:00  Patriarchy v Matriarchy

52:00  The Culture War is really an ideological civil war because the rules of your religion are either wrong or not being properly enforced. 

53:00  Not acknowledging the elephant in the room ie the matriarchy, much less calling it out.

54:00  Megan has not said what kind of America she wants to live in. 

56:00  SERVANT speaks

1:02:00  Identifying the problem and focusing on the solution apparently impossible

Trump after a searching and fearless moral inventory is taken of US foreign policy


The Trinity

1:00  The Abrahamic God forbade idolatry and blasphemy. 
2:00  There is no mention of the Trinity in the New Testament. 
3:00  The Founding Fathers abolished the monarchy in America. 
4:00  God the divine practical joker
5:00  The consequences of idolatry after nearly 1700 years
7:00  Christians have to ignore facts and logic. 
8:00  Separation of church and state
9:00  Why did God allow Christians to prosper?
10:00  Secular Koranism > Christo-Liberalism
11:00  Americans as Ninevites
12:00  Global Secular Koranism and its role of World War prevention
13:00  Secular Koranism would prevent America from falling into its Thucydides Trap.
14:00  Americans as Ninevites

The spiritual is inextricably linked to the legal and permissible


Suffering from a guilty conscience expecting punishment

7:00  Christian beliefs
8:00  Islamophobia
9:00  Secular Koranism
10:00  People who pretend not to understand 
11:00  The Trinity
12:00  The concept of  the Abrahamic God is enough. 
13:00  How could a man executed for blasphemy have created the Universe?
14:00  Idolatry is a mortal sin.
15:00  Who said Jesus was God?

"Your father and I one." 

16:00  Idolaters and blasphemers are Hell-bound. 
17:00  The social and political advantages of pretending to be Christian
18:00  Sharia would protect our legal rights better.

Chris Howard discusses being featured on PVK video with me talking about dispute resolution


12:36 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Listening to my own voice as a Macbeth witch was so traumatising I had to stop listening immediately.

12:38 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Men are drilled so that they can do their military preparations in their sleep. That is the purpose of having convictions.

12:39 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Ooh! A compliment from Tunji!

From 28:00  

12:40 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@VanWeasley-e8s Slavery is the solution to labour problem of the West. In fact, it is the only way to make the welfare claiming Heritage American a desirable employee again.

12:41 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​SK actually has a humane and I hope effective programme of harnessing the domestic labour force. It is after all the most effective system of workfare.

12:42 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@VanWeasley-e8s What has PVK been saying? He was saying something about Muslims hunting down Dutch Calvinists, apparently.

12:44 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​I watched that. I was saying religion is a form of dispute resolution, but because I said it, everyone ignores it.

12:45 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​PVK has the agenda of keeping people together, but for what purpose?

12:47 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Maybe you do want to kick some people out of your group or at least call them out and give a proper reason other than you not liking them.

12:48 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Society needs to be a patriarchy to keep immigrants out. It really is as simple as that. Voting won't help because Washington has already warned against political parties.

12:49 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Cofnas only got away with it because he is American, and Jewish.

12:50 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#1
​Race cannot be your religion. "White history" has shown that in spades. I guess I could stream about that. Christianity has utterly failed white people and their institutions.

12:59 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Nietzsche read the Koran.

Friday, 28 August 2026

Political action begins with sound political theory, @nattykadifa2856 ​


I am only at the stage of political theorising. 

1:00  Nobody can think of a better guide to humanity than the Koran. 

2:00  Using the law to change behaviour

Natty


7:00  In theory

8:00  Actual belief in God would make people want to obey His laws more than the mere existence of laws that punish. 

12:00  Feminised and frightened men afraid of winning the argument against immoral and moronic women  

18:00  TLC are afraid of defining terms.

19:00  Nihilism, atheism and cynicism 

20:00  Olson accused me of being monocausal. 

24:00  I should be able to propose my solution to someone in charge, but there is no one in charge. 

26:00  Stockholm Syndrome

The difference believing in God and superstition

 

3:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins. 

4:00  Defining superstition

5:00  God created good and evil, rewarding good and punishing evil. 

6:00  The purpose of the afterlife

7:00  The afterlife can neither be proven nor falsified.

8:00  Seven Years of Bad Luck

9:00  The purpose of the Abrahamic God is to make it logical to believe that good will be rewarded and evil punished in the afterlife. 

10:00  SK USA

11:00  Superstition

14:00  The majority of people in the world believe in God

15:00  Jews are arguably evidence of God.

16:00  Christians with their three global empires still complain about being the eternal victims of Jews. 

The sexually restrictive rules of Judaism and its severe punishment of sex offenders are eugenic. 

17:00  Natural law

My grand vision for American Imperial Reform


11:42 AM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​good morning, chris.. you are lightening the burden of dawn patrol waxing incoherent dribble lol

11:43 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​@VanWeasley-e8s Yeah, it was laughable. All those lame sports metaphors and childhood memories after Brett gave up trying to explain the Trinity.

11:44 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Brett removed me when I tried to save the stream claiming I wouldn't let him on when I was live. Did he even ask me to drop the link?

11:45 AM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​it's too early for his Calvinist gymnastical contortions.. he said the word was the holy spirit in one breath but also the word was Jesus, but the word was god. so the trinity wasnt created by man lol

11:45 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​The Trinity will always be incoherent drivel. That's why heretic burning was a Christian practice. It is too bad Americans can't even acknowledge the service the Founding Fathers did for them.

11:45 AM
@βρεττς
#3
​The word, Trinity and the language we used to describe it was Man.

11:47 AM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​he has two viewers he doesn't ban and then tried to argue with Anselman and CW when they disagreed with his rambling

11:48 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​The best thing 21st century Americans could do to honour their Founding Fathers is to become Unitarians. Then it will be short step away from sharia ahahah

11:49 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Nobody can define "bad faith". Everyone who disagrees with you is debating in "bad faith".

11:49 AM
@βρεττς
#2
​I hope you have been given eyes to see. But I get you probably won’t understand.

11:50 AM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​reading one screenshot and talking circles around a Bible verse is not actually doing research or adept study ...

11:50 AM
@βρεττς
#2
​Bad Faith means you really don’t care about my side and to understand it. So you strawman and misrepresent the opponents perspective.

11:51 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​I understand that Trinitarians have to ignore facts and logic to remain Trinitarians.

11:51 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​It is the easiest thing to make the argument that the Founding Fathers fought their revolutionary war for the principle of being non-Trinitarian ethical monotheists. It's the world's best kept secret.

11:52 AM
@βρεττς
#2
​Rob, I’ve done research. But I’m not trying to bore people that don’t want to get that deep. I’m not a podcast for Bart Erhman to learn anything from.

11:52 AM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​Claire, he is just in his feelings because I burst his bubble this week and PVK keeps reiterating my points during homeroom lol

11:58 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​Every time they try to explain the Trinity to themselves each other, the more ridiculous it sounds. The Trinity is the ultimate in passing the buck. Sadly, this idea has infected China.

11:58 AM
@βρεττς
​​Praise the Lord

11:59 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​The Chinese government has come up with their own version of the Trinity called the Three Supremes. No, it is not Diana Ross and the two Supremes.

12:00 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Once America adopts SK USA, it will be easy to sell it to the rest of the world.

12:03 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​I have just the idea of convincing the world that a penitent Uncle Sam has adopted SK USA after we get the current President and former Presidents to grovel on the ground in sackcloth and ashes.

12:04 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Brett, there is a reason why PVK refuses to discuss the Trinity. He is smart enough to know that it is impossible to explain nonsense.

12:05 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Once Americans fall in love with the idea of POTUSes grovelling on the ground in sackcloth and ashes, it will actually happen.

12:06 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Brett, when you attend your first Estuary Meeting, pitch the Trinity. I bet it will be declined.

12:06 PM
@βρεττς
​#3
​Whatever you say. You keep living your dream. But you know the PVK isn’t looking to call out people’s doctrine and his difference with it.

12:06 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​The relationship is more important because most of these people already know what he believes.

12:06 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​PVK is functionally atheist as are Christians.

12:07 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​You clearly don’t know what the definition of atheist is

12:08 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​Polycarp was called an atheist. And before he died, he turned around to the people that believed in many gods and said away with the atheist.

12:08 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Bart Ehrman would only call himself atheist because the culture affirms atheism. The culture affirms atheism because the government affirms atheism.

12:09 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Ron has blocked me because cannot deal with my arguments.

12:09 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Ditto Tunji.

12:09 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​No, it’s cause you’re bad Faith

12:09 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Define bad faith, Brett.

12:09 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Tunji is smart.

12:09 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​You’re developing quite a list of people that block you

12:10 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​I already did read up in the comments

12:10 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​Once again, you not listening, is an impediment to you

12:11 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Bad faith = not changing your mind whatever the arguments

12:11 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​Do you think you convince people and it’s obvious but if it’s not obvious to them how is it logical to change your opinion?

12:12 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Brett, I am a religious, political and social anthropologist. I listen to you people.

12:12 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​But you don’t understand.

12:13 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​People block me because they understand my arguments and can't cope with not having a counter-argument that could convince anyone, least of all themselves.

12:13 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​You should go on Confluences channel. He likes to discuss these things and he would love to hear your opinion. But you’re afraid of platforms like that. That actually want to talk with you

12:14 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​My channel isn’t for that and it isn’t for the other people that block you

12:14 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​I understand the Trinity and have reduced it to a Jewish joke. It is a shame that my genius is not being acknowledged. Not too late for you to repent, Brett.

12:14 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​Do you know what repent means?

12:15 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Your channel should be used by you as a tool of rational inquiry, not be a fortress containing a complex of echo chambers.

12:15 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​It means to turn back. But I was never in your direction in the first place.

12:15 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​Unless you’re afraid

12:15 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​when you Google definition of blowhard, Brett's image appears - is an arrogant, boastful person who talks too much about their own importance or achievements, usually without much substance

12:16 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#1
​Repent - publicly declare your regret at not having renounced your idolatry as soon you understood my arguments and realised that you had no counter-argument

12:16 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​And then you have ad homonym attacks

12:17 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​Claire stop using AI because it’s misleading you on what Christians believe when they use these words

12:17 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Brett, no one has ever accused you being CIA, have you?

12:17 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​I don’t believe in prosperity gospel and neither does Ron

12:17 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​Although he comes close, sometimes I’ll admit that

12:18 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​No, because I’m not trying to change political systems and manipulate people

12:18 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Ron is selling idolatree .... eeeeeeee!

12:19 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​Your lack of ability to see someone with a good heart is astounding

12:20 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​I do make the point that it is necessary to believe God to be perfectly moral to get the full benefit of organised religion.

12:20 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​Elizabeth Claire Prophet, his Rosicrucian prophetess, worshipped Count St Germain as Tsar Nicholas II 🇷🇺 🪆

12:20 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​Your definition of morality is different

12:21 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Brett, is my duty to warn the world about the harm of idolatry even if God does not exist to punish anyone for anything.

12:21 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Brett, I know the Abrahamic God forbade idolatry.

12:21 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​Your duty huh? Who gave you that calling my guess is you did.

12:22 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​I think Americans should consider me to be their Jonah and themselves as Ninevites.

12:22 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​You misunderstand

12:22 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​And when they do, they will have the pleasure of seeing their POTUSes grovelling on the ground in sackcloth and ashes.

12:23 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​I really really really think TLC can do it.

12:23 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​I have faith in TLC even though I have complained about them.

A Noahide religion has a dispute resolution process perceived to be fair enough by the majority


The rule of law > vigilantism

1:00  Government policy and moral systems

Resolving disputes in a fair and conclusive way

2:00  A global empire at the mercy of narcissists, neurotics, nihilists, atheists and hypocrites ie unprincipled men requires the imperial reform of Secular Koranism.

Founding Father John Adams warned that the American constitution is fit only for a moral and religious people and no other.

3:00  The American people must make themselves fit for the purpose of being citizens of a great nation and great empire by using facts and logic to solve their problems.

It is a fact that every group needs a reason for existence. 

5:00  Patriarchy supporting theocracy is more stable than secular political ideologies. 

6:00  Matriarchy, degeneracy, decline, reform, penitence, correction and submission are topics that need to be discussed as a matter of urgency by moral and political philosophers. 

7:00  Mindset

8:00  Jews and gentiles are stiff-necked recidivists

9:00  Before the disease, the cure exists. 

10:00  The difference between theorising and fantasy

Pointless speculation about whether the Universe was created or eternal

11:00  If you think the Universe was uncreated and eternal, you deny the Abrahamic God. If you subscribe to the Big Bang Theory, you must also logically and necessarily accept that Allah caused the Big Bang. quran.com/21/30

12:00  We want it to be logical to believe that good will be rewarded and evil punished. The Abrahamic God serves this purpose. 

13:00  Because the matriarchy is immoral women controlling immoral men, it will always be promoting evil, stupid and insane ideas.  

14:00  Facts and logic

15:00  Choosing the best religion available that is in harmony with the Declaration of Independence is easy when there already exists a White House Koran that supports the First Amendment with quran.com/2/256

16:00  An absolutely powerful deity would not be illogical. 

18:00  We were given free will by God. 

It is logical to obey God's laws for a better society even if God does not exist. 

21:00  A theocracy that supports freedom of belief

Why wasn't Lindsay Clancy's Catholic ex-mother in law allowed to be asked if murder is a mortal sin?

 

Taking prescription drugs to regulate your mood is worse than recreational drugs?

2:00  Hippocratic Oath
4:00  Thalidomide
8:00  Good relationship with her husband
9:00  Medea
10:00  Female demonstrators outside court before the trial is over
12:00  Jennifer Tufts psychiatrist ambiguous notes
17:00  Murder a mortal sin according to Catholicism 

AI Overview                 

The judge struck out the question about a "mortal sin" because injecting religious doctrine and beliefs into a secular legal proceeding is considered highly inappropriate and improper.

Why It Was Stricken
Inappropriate Focus: The court determined that introducing religious concepts like Catholic "mortal sins" had no valid place in deciding criminal responsibility under Massachusetts law.

Prejudicial Impact: Legal experts and the judge viewed tying a defendant's or witness's specific religious tenets to a murder charge as an improper attempt to appeal to emotion or bias rather than evaluating factual and legal sanity.

Immediate Intervention: When the prosecutor asked Lindsay Clancy’s former mother-in-law about her Catholic faith and mortal sins, the defense immediately objected. Judge William Sullivan called an immediate sidebar and instructed the jury to entirely disregard the question and response.

21:00  Following doctors' orders

Thursday, 27 August 2026

DEI is a belief system imposed by intersectionality


11:41 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@SeekingGenuine Do you think it is time to discuss Western masculinity on my channel?

11:43 AM
@SeekingGenuine
​#3
​Claire, I could be open to discussing this, along with western femininity. Been trying to get a discussion going with some of my IRL friends to gauge the tension there

11:43 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Britain tried to smash Germany because it was rising up and catching up. That was what WW1 and WW2 about. That's why America is trying to starve China of its energy supplies by 2030.

11:44 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@VanWeasley-e8s How sad. Playing the blame game is not really a viable survival strategy. The role of men is to solve problems.

11:46 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@SeekingGenuine Do you get the impression that Western men of fighting age are suffering from the emotional equivalent of Paraphilic infantilism?

11:47 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@SeekingGenuine You know both Brett and Scott have blocked me from their channel, don't you? Probably, Olson will be following suit.

11:48 AM
@Eolson-helper
#1
​I’m found out! I guess I will have to inform the Chinese pastor who’s van I’m going to help fix on Saturday that I’ve been outed as a racist against Chinese.

11:48 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​The Chinese have no business worshiping a Jew executed for blasphemy.

11:49 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@VanWeasley-e8s The matriarchy wants to drug the useless eaters and then get them to commit suicide.

11:49 AM
@Eolson-helper
#1
​Rob- just because I didn’t mention the poppy fields in Afghanistan (and south east Asia, were we also had a military intervention) that I don’t consider them to be a part of the US issues. I can…

11:50 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#3
​Claire, I’m curious what you tell yourself the reason is for your banning on their channels

11:50 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​The interesting thing about the Anglo Saxon is that whatever they do to non-Anglo Saxons they end up doing it to their own people.

11:51 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#3
​@SeekingGenuine enuine The lack of intellectual honesty and courage in feminised and infantilised men, of course. They can only survive in their echo chamber or play pen, if you prefer.

11:52 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​The trouble with having a religion that makes you believe in a lie is that it makes you lie to yourself and believe in your own propaganda.

11:53 AM
@Eolson-helper
#2
​I agree, there was super shady stuff with us in the poppy fields of Afghanistan and in the fields of Vietnam and Cambodia. And in South American as well. Our hands are not clean. And our appetites…

11:53 AM
@Eolson-helper
#2
​And addictions lead us into bad places.

11:54 AM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​however a bit "ironic" how opium production soared and reached record highs during the US military presence, supplying a massive portion of the global heroin market

11:55 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Most men are not interested in foreign policy because they are so infantilised they prefer to believe the official version because their female partners prefer the official version.

11:55 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​For an imperial nation, it is astounding how little interest the average American takes in US foreign policy. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

11:56 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​To be fair to Americans, when they try to take an interest in US foreign policy in the Middle East, they are invariably called antisemites and Nazis eg Tucker.

11:59 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​I have been proposing a way for men of fighting age to protect themselves from being drafted into fighting and dying in neocon wars.

12:01 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​I usually say I’m pedantic when attend to the literal meanings of words, in a sassy way probably

12:06 PM
@βρεττς
​​Have covered masculinity yet?

12:11 PM
@teestrypzSOG
​​Claire doesn’t practice OSK. She can’t. It’s a system designed to control people for the air of government. Not a worldview

12:18 PM
@teestrypzSOG
​​Long live DEI 🙏

12:19 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​But I’m unsure if DEI is doing what they think they are doing

12:20 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​My company had “Sensitivity training” and it was teaching me to simply “not go there”….which is promoting non-sensitivity

12:25 PM
@teestrypzSOG
​​I’m so tempted to hop on but I can’t go from avoiding slip consumption to contributing to slop creation

12:30 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@VanWeasley-e8s Did I say anything about Scott's wife? I really don't remember!

12:31 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@teestrypzSOG You will be crying out for SK soon.

12:31 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​DEI is intersectional feminism.

12:33 PM
@βρεττς
​​Claire, you really don’t remember having the whole homewrecker conversation. Your Hilarious in your big innocence.

12:33 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Jacob Faturechi was talking about atheists having their own theology. I should stream about that.

12:34 PM
@βρεττς
​​Fake innocence

12:34 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​What did I say about Scott's wife, Brett? I suppose it is in theory possible that I can sleep post in people's live streams and have no memory of it afterwards.

12:34 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​Probably

12:35 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​Although, maybe it was Rob

12:35 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​I remember Rob doing it but Scott was looking for an excuse to block me anyway.

12:36 PM
@βρεττς
​#3
​There’s always an excuse to block you, however. Rob is a harder decision because sometimes he’s rational.

12:37 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
​​Brett getting the whip out

12:37 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​What have I said that is untrue or illogical, Brett?

12:38 PM
@WhiteStoneName
​​Never inconsistent...

12:38 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​Your understanding of Christianity is untrue. Because you have a logic frame that is scientific.

12:38 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
​​He said you're irrational Claire, not untrue or illogical

12:38 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​If I had been allowed to continue my conversation with Chris, I would be talking about who and what should be the supreme morality.

12:39 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@MarcInTbilisi To be irrational is to be illogical.

12:40 PM
@WhiteStoneName
​​Rationality > Rationalism. To be rational is to want to know what you don't know and see what you don't see. ie. humble, open to revelation

12:41 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
​​from ratio @WhiteStoneName , to find a balance?

12:41 PM
@diamonddaveyt
​​@OfficialSecularKoranism No? Im American, live in Mongolia

12:42 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@diamonddaveyt How are things in Mongolia?

12:42 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​What brings you to Mongolia?

12:42 PM
@diamonddaveyt
​​My wife lol

12:42 PM
@WhiteStoneName
​​idk, Marc. I feel like it's even more complex/simple than balance. Justice is more like forgiveness than scales.

12:42 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@diamonddaveyt So your wife is Mongolian?

12:42 PM
@diamonddaveyt
​​@OfficialSecularKoranism Very chill.

12:42 PM
@diamonddaveyt
​​@OfficialSecularKoranism Yep.

12:42 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​Luke do you really believe that?

12:43 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
​​I was at college with a Mongolian women, damn she was beautiful.

12:43 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@diamonddaveyt Is your wife a Tibetan Buddhist?

12:43 PM
@diamonddaveyt
​​Mongolia is a lot slower paced than other countries Ive lived in, but its pretty solid. Prob going to get citizenship after PR is finalized

12:44 PM
@WhiteStoneName
​​About forgiveness? Yes.

12:44 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
​​In England justice has a blindfold & scales.

12:44 PM
@diamonddaveyt
​​@OfficialSecularKoranism Shes more secular, her family is a mix of Tibetan Buddhist and Tengrinist (Mongolian Shamanism)

12:44 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​About Justice

12:44 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​I guess some TLCers didn't get the homeroom memo, you dont have to believe your faith tradition because you will eventually learn it's a literary myth not historically literal

12:46 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​We are all being encouraged to be functionally atheist by our malign matriarchy shoving DEI down our throats.

12:46 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​So you think the natural world is less real?

12:46 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​If you don't believe in the afterlife, you are functionally atheist.

12:47 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​Nobody here doesn’t believe in the afterlife Claire knock it off

12:47 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​"who cares about what is true, go to church because you will be surrounded by other people like you" - noble white lies

12:48 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​If Christians believe in the afterlife, they would cease and desist from their idolatry.

12:48 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
​​Don't know who said it but, atheists don't exist.

12:48 PM
@diamonddaveyt
​​@MarcInTbilisi Sorry, missed your comments. Yeah I like living here. Prefer it to the US in many ways.

12:48 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​So then how do you Square us not believing it idolatry

12:49 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Christians don't care that Christianity is idolatry because they don't think God exists to punish anyone for anything.

12:49 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​Dennis Miller

12:49 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​"what is highest and how to get there" = circumabulating the hyperobject cube of whiteness

12:50 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​caucasity strikes again

12:51 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​Because you think we believe Jesus forgives us for our sins because of what he did you think we don’t believe anyone to be punished. You know we believe God will punish. you use Christianity

12:51 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
​​folks, don't fear the reaper

12:51 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Shoulderserf had the decency to admit this.

12:51 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​you can't even define Christ

12:51 PM
@diamonddaveyt
​​This a Christian channel?

12:52 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Brett, please try to take remedial English lessons.

12:52 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​No

12:52 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
​​ask Ups for proof

12:52 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​@diamonddaveyt How did you find this channel?

12:52 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​Lots of Christians tho

12:52 PM
@diamonddaveyt
​​@OfficialSecularKoranism It was hosted under the live section of Youtube

12:52 PM
@diamonddaveyt
​​@OfficialSecularKoranism I tend to float around whatever pops up there

12:52 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
​​Hey Brett, Claire threw that insult at me recently. It got her banned from my substack.

12:53 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​I don’t wanna take the time to write perfect sentences. I just use speech to text. I know you’re a big keyboard Nazi knock yourself out.

12:53 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​@diamonddaveyt Please check out my channel and search Secular Koranism.

12:53 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​It is funny how you’re in the room and not in the room all at the same time. I think that’s probably how you live your life. But I’ll keep praying for you Claire.

12:54 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​But we all know your game. You’ll just record this in a rant about it on your channel.

12:55 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​What exactly is it that you pray for when you pray for me, Brett? I just pray you lot will one day heed your moral imperative and use facts and logic to solve problems.

12:56 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​If PVK said it, it must be "true"

12:57 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​The point I would have gone on to make had the conversation between Chris and I been allowed to continue would be POLITICAL AND MORAL THEOLOGY.

12:57 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​Truth is rooted in Christ

12:57 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​The Greek concept of truth (aletheia) means "un-concealment" or disclosure, whereas the Latin concept (veritas) relates to correctness, exactness, and moral/legal accuracy.

12:57 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​DEI is designed to divide and rule the cattle.

12:58 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​Martin Heidegger revived the concept of aletheia

12:58 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Is it called a tall tale to be an alliteration like short story? Which came first?

12:59 PM
@teestrypzSOG
​​You should take it as a compliment that I’m /dissapointed. I always knew we’re all Cooked

1:00 PM
@teestrypzSOG
​​Oh wait, she’s a girl…we think

1:00 PM
@WhiteStoneName
​​Yeah, Heidegger is much closer to my thoughts on truth.

1:00 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
​​ok, I'm now counting 3 in TLC who don't believe in God's love.

1:01 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#2
​Heidegger is a heap of hooey.

1:01 PM
@WhiteStoneName
​​Idk, I'm still doubtful or open to the idea that the combustion engine did more damage to humanity than AI will. Idk. My mental jury is out.

1:01 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
​​see, we can agree Claire

1:02 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#1
​PVK is going to squeeze as much out of his Calvinism while ignoring the truth. The historian in him should allow him to understand all the points I am making which will not be acknowledging.

1:03 PM
@teestrypzSOG
​​Marc said “Tayo, Bee and Claire do not believe in God’s love”…pass it on

1:03 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​The unconcealment motive is gnostic

1:04 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
​​y'all said it, I'm simply repeating.

1:04 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​I’m talking about capital T truth. Not propositional truth.

1:04 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#1
​Arday could have been murdered by the security services to further divide and rule the cattle.

1:04 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
​​I spent 7 years in Cambridge, very left wing.

1:05 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​I would’ve kicked you off already Claire. But I don’t think Chris knows you’re motives.

1:05 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Now some white female has killed herself after being subject to a disciplinary hearing in a government department.

1:05 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
​​damn it Claire, that's twice we agree. Stop making a habit of it.

1:06 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​She speaks And it’s back to her agenda

1:07 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
​​killed themselves with 2 bullets in the head.

1:07 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​SK would solve everything. Why didn’t I think of that?

1:07 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​character of Paul was a Gnostic Stoic middle Platonist- ie Marcion's Pauline texts were prior to the Father's canonized versions that inserted Septuagint interpolations to fit the dogmatic doctrine

1:07 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
​​SK is binary. Only trinities work in practice.

1:08 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​A lot of assumptions there

1:08 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​Rob, nobody’s talking about your academic learning. Somebody really screwed you up because they knew you hated the way the world was.

1:10 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​You’re speaking her language, Scott she has a solution she’ll tell you all about it

1:11 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​Paul fought against gnostics. But you believe a different history.

1:12 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​Dr David Litwa’s book "Marcion: The Gospel of a Wholly Good God" (2025)

1:12 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​Post modern

1:13 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​ie Challenging Heresiology

1:13 PM
@βρεττς
#2
​Heresy with which worldview?

1:14 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​Restoring Early Christianity with Priority of Marcion’s Gospel

1:15 PM
@βρεττς
#1
​You can’t take the New Testament without taking the Old Testament Rob

1:15 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​ancient mysticism = ancient mystery rite traditions

1:16 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​im well aware of the 2nd century BCE Alexandrian production of the Greek Septuagint

1:17 PM
@βρεττς
#1
​So you believe everything we know about ancient biblical history has been corrupted and you’re not gonna believe it?

1:19 PM
@βρεττς
#1
​And then you have Lindsay Clancy. What do you do with that kind of evil?

1:20 PM
@βρεττς
#1
​Believe defined as having a firm persuasion of the truth based on evidence, testimony, or deductions, rather than personal knowledge.

1:21 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​Aristotle's persuasion is not synonymous with colonialism

1:21 PM
@βρεττς
#1
​I believe in the biblical evidence we have been given. Every time they turn over a spade it confirms the Bible. Have a good day, Rob.

1:21 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​claire saved the dawn

*********************************************************

29:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins. 

32:00  We need to know what our group stands for. 

34:00  When our beliefs are questioned in the culture war

36:00  Secular Koranism

37:00  Passing the buck

38:00  Dispute resolution

39:00  How civil wars start

40:00  Imperialism

41:00  Improving the government of the West

42:00  Theorising

43:00  DEI is a belief system. 

45:00  Thumb on the scale

Majorities and minorities

46:00  Good looking people

47:00  Republican meritocracy

48:00  Efficiency

Shareholders wanted  DEI?

50:00  Academia

51:00  Jason Arday as a token of diversity and DEI

Lowering educational standards to make more money is like selling Indulgences.

53:00  I deny saying anything about Scott's wife. 

1:30:00  Suicide

Chloe Moffat

1:32:00  Robin Williams
1:33:00  MAID
1:32:00  Suicide pods
1:34:00  Our ruling classes are nihilists.
1:35:00  Social pressure
1:36:00  Internal language of the group
Adulterous pastor
1:38:00  DEI is our new religion. 
1:39:00  "Social justice"
1:40:00  "Political Correctness gone mad!"
1:41:00  Change is accelerating. 
1:42:00  Suicide is forbidden in the Koran. 
1:43:00  When suicide was punished severely
1:45:00  Punished for using facts and logic



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