Friday, 22 May 2026

Fake nationalists cannot agree that nationalism is government in the national interest


5:00  Representative democracy

A People's Democratic Dictatorship

A Dictatorship of the Bourgeoisie

6:00  Democratic Centralism is a one-party state.

7:00  Socialism with Chinese Characteristics

8:00  A one-party state is Washingtonian.

10:00  Caleb Maupin

11:00  Imperial reform

12:00  Washingtonian

Rehabilitating the reputation of nationalism

14:00   Sacred  cow

15:00  Empires consist of nations, nations consist of tribes.

16:00  Twelve Tribes of Israel

18:00   Washington's farewell speech


22:00  Why was George Washington opposed to political parties?

24:00  Democratic Centralism
28:00  Punch and  Judy Show
31:00  China
32:00  The Koran forbids sectarianism.
33:00  Thomas Massie
34:00  Caleb Maupin said boomers Zionists did not vote for Massie.
35:00  Grievances aired and acknowledged
36:00  George Washington would have approved of Democratic Centralism. 
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TLC.net

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On reincarnation and the divine personalised curriculum


49:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins. 
50:00  Ron Copperman said heavenn would have murderers and sex offenders. 
51:00  Is God nicer to people than He should be?
52:00  Is it fair that only Christians get to heaven ie people who believe that Jesus is God?
54:00  Priesthood absolution
Chantries

56:00  Non-denominational churches lack accountability 
57:00  Last rites
Baptists
58:00  John the Baptist
59:00  Selling of Indulgences
1:00:00  It's not fair. 
1:01:00  Galatians - boasting
The bare minimum
The pass mark
1:02:00  Predestination
Praying for and to people
1:03:00  Imposed morality
1:04:00  God probably operates a personalised curriculum.  
1:05:00  A corrupt and abusive priesthood
1:06:00  The Marian Cult
1:09:00  Which church can I bear to attend?
1:10:00  Primary and secondary Christianity
1:13:00  The Book of Deuteronomy
1:15:00  The Marian Cult
1:17:00  Judaism and Islam forbids anthropomorphism
1:18:00  13 Principles of Judaism
1:20:00  The Injustice of Grace
Purgatory is reincarnation.
1:21:00  Grade retention
1:22:00  Re-education, reincarnation, brainwashing
1:23:00  Snakes and Ladders
1:24:00  Only humans have immortal souls. 
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Theological exclusivism v universalism


52:00 CLAIRE KHAW joins to support Brett's and Tayo's position against universalism. 

54:00  We don't want complacent criminals expecting to get to heaven

Ron Copperman's belief that heaven will be full of murderers and sex offenders

Redemption

55:00  Heaven will only be for the universalists?

Hell is where no one ever dies. 

56:00  MARC joins to discuss purgatory.

57:00  Redemption

58:00  Penitence

1:00:00  Obedience not perfection

1:01:00  Ron Copperman, Tayo and I are agreed on redemption of criminals. 
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Thursday, 21 May 2026

​⁨@HelpfulAhmadi⁩ talks to an alcoholic Australian pagan with an economic policy


Evolution
2:00  Monkey and keyboards
3:00  Evolution is not inconsistent with a first man and woman.
4:00  "Unbelievable ideas" 
5:00  Christians believe in unbelievable things.
6:00  The religion of mum and dad
7:00  Benefits of religion
8:00  Christian imperialists
9:00  Carol of California
10:00  Carol just couldn't believe in the Trinity.
11:00  The First Amendment is quran.com/2/256
12:00  Catechism
14:00  Speakers Corner
16:00  Polytheism promoted by Jason Jorjani
18:00  Gnosticism
19:00  Jesus as a brand
20:00  The Crusading Knights of Christianity

Be a better Christian by becoming Muslim. 

21:00  The Trinity

25:00  Christianity in Ghana
26:00  Afterlife
72 Virgins
28:00  Credulous women who are Pentecostalists
29:00  Extramarital sex
30:00  Marriage license
The wedding ceremony is for the woman.
32:00  Sluts chasing chads
33:00  Sharia
34:00  Monogamy

35:00  ROB joins. 
36:00  Food and oil crisis
40:00  The foolishness of youth
42:00  Fear of the deadly sin of greed
43:00  Plato and Dionysus
44:00  Rob's alcoholism
45:00  Drinking before death in the battlefield
46:00  Pre-Islamic drunken Arabs 
47:00  Alcoholics fill their spiritual emptiness with alcohol.
48:00  Lost connections
49:00  Somalis mentioned to trigger the disgust factor?
50:00  Ahmadi Muslims
Converts to Islam on YouTube
51:00  Rob dreams of joining the elite.
53:00  Direct connection with God
54:00  Pagan practices
55:00  Cave man  beliefs
Afghanistan
56:00  CIA getting Afghans to sell heroin
57:00  CNN  view of Afghanistan
Hijab
58:00  Proposed mosque visit
1:00:00  White Muslim woman
1:01:00  Rob would like to corrupt a Muslim woman.
1:02:00  Noble lie
1:06:00  Religions are about making us marry and be good parents.
1:07:00  Suicide by cop
1:11:00  Cultural Catholics and existentialist philosophers
1:16:00  Hitler as a "Caesar figure" 
1:19:00  Race cannot be your religion.
1:21:00  American dominion

"Christianity is over."

Nietzsche

1:22:00  IQ and wisdom
Quiet revolutions
Demographics is destiny.
1:23:00  Having families cannot be seen as subversive.
1:24:00  Rob accuses Khalid of being a Jew.
1:25:00  SJW
1:26:00  Immigrants
Bond Beach shooting
1:28:00  People of the Book
1:29:00  "Worried about the pagans"
1:30:00  Crazy conspiracy theories
1:31:00  Traditional values
Richard Spencer's paganism

1:37:00  Banning usury
1:38:00  Simple and compound interest
1:39:00  Shaking the money tree
1:40:00  Usury is not commerce. 
1:41:00  80s Japan
1:42:00  Chinese cars > Japanese cars > American cars
1:43:00  Boom-bust cycle
Units of exchange
1:44:00  Rupert Lowe
1:45:00  "Starting the navy up again"
1:46:00 "Magic trick" 
Petrodollar
1:47:00  Usury
Deutschemarks and Greenbacks
1:48:00  North Sea
"The money spell" 
1:49:00  Sotto voce: the Jews
1:51:00  Tally sticks
Bitcoin
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Wednesday, 20 May 2026

The future of Secular Koranism


1:00  What have I said that is untrue, illogical or untrue?

No one can be more moral than God.

2:00  Islamophobes cannot think of a better guide to humanity than God. 

3:00  The quickest way of implementing Secular Koranism

4:00  Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins

5:00  Anjem Choudary

6:00  Tucker Carlsom, Sam Harris, Douglas Wilson, Ann Coulter, Alan Dershowitz

7:00  Theologians

8:00  Getting Jews and Muslims to agree that Christianity is idolatry. 

10:00  The harm of idolatry even if God does not exist: the opportunity cost of not being rightly guided by the Koran. 

11:00  The Final Edition trumps the First Edition. 

12:00  You are an atheist if you cannot take the Afterlife seriously. 

13:00  The Torah is too hard for Jews to follow. 

14:00  The Sadducees and Essenes are now extinct. 

15:00  Blasphemy against Intersectional Feminism is taken more seriously than the afterlife.  

16:00  Social clubs cannot maintain morality. 

17:00  Caleb Maupin

18:00  Christianity is an anachronism. 

19:00  The corpse of Christianity and the corpse of Liberalism

20:00  Civilisational dementia

"First amongst equals" 

21:00  The Three Supremes

23:00  Right thought, right speech, right action

24:00  Western Man is infantilised. 

25:00  The Messiah cannot be summoned like a maid of all work. 

Egalitarianism is unworkable. 

26:00  The Muslim bloc vote is favoured in representative democracies. 

27:00  A matriarchy is like a headless snake.

28:00  Meghan Kelly, Piers Morgan, Mehdi Hasan

30:00  A mechanical problem

31:00  The more valuable woman

32:00  Two religions of a global empire

33:00  We need a mirror.

34:00  Tough questions required. 

35:00  China abolished its monarchy in 1911. 

36:00  "Unalienable rights" 

37:00  Shake the dust of monarchy off.

38:00  China's three child policy

39:00  My theological narrative
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Jews are a credulous people easily manipulated by the cunning gentile

 




5:00  Liberal parents: "Let them make their own mistakes."

6:00  Atheists worship the Idol of YOLO.

7:00  "My boomer dad" accompanied by a zoomer sneer

8:00  The loss of the social capital of the extended family

9:00  E Michael Jones

10:00  Weapon words

11:00  Boomer-Zoomer political discussions

Induction or indoctrination

12:00  Women are more conformist than men.  

13:00  Risk aversion in women pays off, but only for women. 

14:00  Bad parenting and the rejection of facts and logic

15:00  The beliefs of Westerners consist mostly of antisemitism Islamophobia and racism.

16:00  Being Post-Christian

The imminent extinction of representative democracy

18:00  The Swinging Sixties and the Sex Revolution

Redemption

19:00  I don't mind having my ideas challenged. 

20:00  Secular Koranism

The Engine of Facts and Logic

21:00  Caleb Maupin's Israel blaming


25:00  Jews are a special kind of white people. 

26:00  Jews are being deliberately over-privileged to generate antisemitism to give the government an excuse for censorship.

27:00  Which group of people would not want a homeland, especially if it enjoys the unwavering support of the most powerful empire on earth?


30:00  Hamas demanded sharia for Israel.

32:00  Louis XVI, Nicholas II and Adolf Hitler died of their disastrous foreign policy. 

33:00  The Berlin-Bagdad Railway was the most proximate cause of WW1. Its 21st century equivalent is the Road and Belt Drive. 

34:00  The causes of WW1

Woodrow Wilson

35:00  Franco-Prussian War 1870

36:00  Serbs and Pan-Slavism

Race cannot be your religion.

37:00  The terrible errors of British foreign policy

38:00  In the so-called Free West, having the wrong view of WW2 is an imprisonable offence. 

Judicial Notice


40:00  Suez Crisis

41:00  American imperial aggression began after WW2

42:00  Brian Berletic and Alexander McKay

43:00  Jews are the dupes of Uncle Sam.

44:00  Scapegoating is a Jewish idea. 

Kapparot  - the scape chicken

46:00  Jews are a credulous people easily manipulated by the cunning gentile.

47:00  Americans who turn up at their noses  at Tucker Carlson

48:00  Class war in America

50:00  Christian hypocrisy

Caleb Maupin

51:00  Caleb Maupin does not want to offend Christians in CPI. 

52:00  The Afterlife

53:00  Reincarnation

55:00  Catholic theologian

56:00  Which religion would you choose if you wanted to get to heaven ASAP without reincarnation? 


AI Overview

In traditional Jewish law, there is a widely known compilation of 36 transgressions that carry the punishment of karet (divine excision or being "cut off" from the Jewish people). For the full, original text and rabbinic debates regarding these, you can explore the Sefaria Mishnah Keritot 1:1. 
These 36 sins are generally divided into four main categories: forbidden sexual relationships (which make up almost half the list), idolatry, violations of religious festivals/Temple laws, and dietary transgressions. 

The 36 Transgressions (Mishnah Keritot 1:1)

Forbidden Sexual Relations and Incest
Mother
Father’s wife (stepmother)
Father-in-law's daughter-in-law (son's wife)
Male homosexual intercourse
Bestiality (for both the man and the woman)
Wife and her daughter
Wife and her son’s daughter
Wife and her daughter’s daughter
Married woman
Sister from the same mother
Father’s wife’s sister
Mother’s sister
Brother’s wife
Father’s brother’s wife
A woman during her menstrual period (niddah) 

Wikipedia
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Idolatry and Defiance 
Blaspheming the Name of God
Practicing idolatry (worshiping foreign gods)
Giving one’s children to the idol Molech
Necromancy or channeling spirits (ov and yidoni)
Desecrating the Sabbath 

Sefaria
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Temple and Sacrificial Law 
An unqualified, ritually impure person eating sacrificial meat
An unqualified, ritually impure person entering the Temple
Slaughtering or offering a sacrifice outside of the designated Tabernacle/Temple grounds
Eating certain forbidden fats (helev)
Consuming blood
Eating sacrificial meat after its permitted time has expired (notar)
Eating disqualified sacrificial meat (pigul)
Unauthorized compounding of the holy anointing oil
Unauthorized compounding of the Temple incense
Anointing a person with the holy anointing oil for non-sacred purposes 

Encyclopedia.com
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Dietary and Holiday Laws
Eating leavened bread (chametz) during the week of Passover
Eating food on the fast day of Yom Kippur
Performing forbidden work on Yom Kippur 

Mi Yodeya
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The Relationship Between Karet and the Death Penalty
While the Torah specifies these 36 transgressions incur karet (divine excision), early rabbinic courts (Beit Din) often connected these with judicial capital punishment. In ancient Israel, if a person committed these high-handed sins intentionally, in front of at least two valid witnesses, and after receiving prior warning (hatra'ah), the earthly court carried out the physical death penalty. If the sin was committed accidentally, the offender was instead obligated to bring a specific sin-offering (a korban chatat) to the Temple. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Judaism 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ir_nidachat

The Ir nidachat (Hebrew: עיר נידחת; the "city led astray") is a biblical command on idolatry in Deuteronomy 13:13-19. If the inhabitants of an Israelite city become idolaters, they and their livestock must be slaughtered and the city be burnt to the ground, never to be rebuilt. 

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Tuesday, 19 May 2026

How have I been irrelevant in my comments in the live chat about Israel on Caleb Maupin's stream?


31:50  @OOOTLAM
​​Israel is an American colony.

41:00  Talmud

44:00  Harvard uses Chinese methods to shame those who criticise Zionists. 

44:31  @OOOTLAM
​​Jews live in Israel. Jews are Zionist. There’s such a thing as Christian Zionism.

45:28  @OOOTLAM
​​Zionism is an imperial project.

45:44  @OOOTLAM
​​Aren’t Jews white?

49:09  @OOOTLAM
​​When is Caleb going to understand that Israel is an American colony? It’s not the Jews, it’s the US State Department. Israel is a proxy of America.

51:08  @OOOTLAM
​​US manufactured weaponry practically says “Tested on humans in Gaza.”

51:52  @OOOTLAM
​​Americans talk about nuking people pretty often.

1:00:56  @OOOTLAM
​​The Nobel Peace Prize is won by American warmongers.

1:02:25  @OOOTLAM
​​Caleb, Zionism is a pillar of American imperialism 

1:35:13
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@CalebMaupinTV You have the option of highlighting comments on StreamYard.

1:38:43
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@CalebMaupinTV Do Jews know they have been made the mascot of the American Empire? I don't think they do. They just won't bite the hand that privileges them.

1:41:54
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@CalebMaupinTV You may have heard of British Israelism - a pseudoreligion created by Britain to get gentile Britons to go live in Israel after being convinced they are one one of the lost tribes?

1:43:26
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@CalebMaupinTV The British had to give up on British Israelism after WW2, but this was taken up by America. Herbert W Armstrong with CIA connections developed its theology rejecting the Trinity.

1:45:40
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@CalebMaupinTV The plan was to get gentile Americans to go live in Israel to keep an eye on the Arabs and the oil. Then the State Department thought: We'll just get the Jews to do it!

1:48:01
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@CalebMaupinTV The plan of Western imperialists is to over-privilege Jews, thereby provoking antisemitism, and then use the antisemitism provoked to justify censorship.

1:49:44
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@CalebMaupinTV Do you know Australians have lost the right to the writ of habeas corpus and even the right to complain about it if they are detained without a charge?


1:55:12
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​I know at least two Jews who are now calling themselves non-Zionists. Actually, there is arguably Muslim Zionism supported by 17:104 of the Koran.

1:56:14
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@CalebMaupinTV The CIA run all the other 3 letter agencies and the media.

2:04:43
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@CalebMaupinTV Putin [I should have said DUGIN!] is a pussycat.

2:05:52
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@CalebMaupinTV They tried to kill Putin [I should have said DUGIN] and he is such a pussycat. He just rejects liberalism which is clearly heresy to the neocons.

2:07:15
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Blacklisting is an ancient practice. I remember my dear late grandmother warning me about this, ha!

2:13:00 and 2:17:00 CALEB BLOWS UP AT ME!


2:13:04
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@CalebMaupinTV Why are you still even trusting in representative democracy?

2:14:00
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@CalebMaupinTV Aren't elections a distraction?

2:17:18
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Does anyone know if Caleb has ever mentioned George Washington's farewell speech who warned against political parties? Caleb mentioned primaries which is to do with representative democracy, right?

2:23:00
@OOOTLAM
​​All the five world religions are about maintaining the eugenic practice of marriage.

2:23:34
@OOOTLAM
​​@lovelo8780 Sweden - where the Nobel Prize is located - is a US vassal state.

2:25:55
@OOOTLAM
​​Eugenics was the big idea about 100 years ago. America practised it too. Engaged couples had to take a blood test before being allowed to marry.

2:26:44
@OOOTLAM
​​@lovelo8780 Ali is married to a big fat neocon.

2:27:45
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Trad Catholic or Orthobros.

2:28:19
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Christianity is being weaponsed.

2:29:08
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Orthodox Christianity is even more unashamedly antisemitic than Catholicism.

2:29:27
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Christianity is fundamentally antisemitic.

2:29:44
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Christendom ended in 1918.

2:30:55
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​The purpose of Christianity was to defend the divine right of kings. Since Christendom ended in 1918, Christianity is now an anachronism.

2:32:35
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Christian Zionism makes the Dissident Right hate Christianity which forces them to worship a Jew as the co-equal of God.

2:34:03
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​American history has always been imperialist!

2:35:07
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@CalebMaupinTV I am really taken aback that you of all people do not understand what I have been trying to tell you for so long and the depth of your misunderstanding.

2:35:51
@tekla_peacefuldance
​​@OfficialSecularKoranism pretentious

2:36:37
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@tekla_peacefuldance You don't have to like me: just understand what I am saying.

2:38:31
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@rachaelhorning He just has to understand what I am saying. It is interesting that he does not. I thought he of all people would most readily understand.

2:39:06
@ltfallin
​​I can tell you that we are in line with things like Democratic Centralism

2:40:30
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@ltfallin Yes, and it should be the operating political system.

2:40:44
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Ryan Dawson the antisemite in Japan, surely.

2:41:34
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@CalebMaupinTV I've spoken to David Icke!

2:42:11
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@CalebMaupinTV You can be honoured guest on my channel.

2:42:33
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@CalebMaupinTV You should ask AA about me.

2:47:38
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​I do say things like I understand white people better than white people understand themselves at DR parties, but not to Caleb himself, so I was a little surprised when Caleb accused me.

2:50:41
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​There is this Professor Jiang who has his takes on white people and Jews. He is on X and YouTube and was interviewed on Tucker.

2:52:33
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@CalebMaupinTV Get on my channel and then get Professor Jiang on your show. I'll start calling myself an Anthropologist of Western peoples traumtaised by Christianity curable by sharia. It'll be fun!

2:55:37
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@CalebMaupinTV You may enjoy my interviews with E Michael Jones - the big bad Catholic philosopher who blames Jews - on a playlist for your convenience.

2:57:57
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@mrblamo-RU Failing empires keep falling into their Thucydides Trap. Like old people they are unsteady on their pins and keep tripping over. Can empires suffer from dementia? I believe so.

3:02:58
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Brian Berletic's analysis makes the most sense IMHO. On YouTube and X. His assessment is very bleak though. He's a former marine living in Thailand.

3:04:05
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Delighted to hear that Caleb has finally said he wants to go on a media offensive. I think I am one of the best interviewers around. Toot toot!

3:05:47
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Iranian women are on the pill! E Michael Jones keeps gloating that the Iranian birth rate is going down and saying how the late Imam Khameini was in despair about it.

3:06:18
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Iranian women can go on the pill very easily indeed.

3:07:36
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@mrblamo-RU Western Canada with its resources is tired of being looted by the East who want to discourage any separatism by accusing them of being Russian sympathisers.

3:17:14
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​China is the most rationally governed country in the world.

3:19:10
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Caleb is a bottom up man. I am top down woman. I just prefer the quickest route.
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Talking to ⁨@Sonata-d8f⁩ about his proposed alliance between the Libertarian Party and One Nation


2:00  Libertarian Party meeting
4:00  Australian constitution
One Nation
7:00  Alliance of Libertarian Party and One Nation?
9:00  My view of libertarians
10:00  October 2026 elections
I reject representative democracy.
13:00  Politics is the study of human nature.
My trio debating idea
15:00  Federal election
Pauline Hanson
17:00  Hugh Jackman
Warren Pickering
21:00  Richard Spencer
22:00  Snobs
23:00  Class and race war
24:00  A merger
25:00  People who enter politics
The Soprano
27:00  Staying inside the party
28:00  Dealings with the Libertarian Party
29:00  The Leave Me Alone Party
30:00  Middle class concerns
32:00  White Nationalist
Orthobros
34:00  Backroom boy
38:00  Aussie v Yank
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A trio of debate and moderation

3:00  Space begins.

Caleb Maupin 

4:00  AA

RT

6:00  Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lock,_Stock_and_Two_Smoking_Barrels

8:00  The Based Camp

https://www.youtube.com/@SimoneandMalcolm

10:00  AI baby

12:00  Orthodox Christianity

13:00  Dugin still wants Russia to be Orthodox Christian.

Main Cathedral of the Russian Armed Forces

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Cathedral_of_the_Russian_Armed_Forces

18:00  Religion protects race. 

20:00  Constantine the Great

Pontifex and Pontifex Maximus

21:00  Kulture Dads



24:00  Josh is "definitely reasonable".

25:00  Scrump and Evelyn

26:00  One trick pony

27:00  The long form stream

29:00  AA

Trios of proposers, opposers and moderators

30:00  Sound arguments win.

31:00  Socratic dialogue

  1. A  claim is made or a question asked by the proposer.
  2. The opposer disagrees giving a reason or asking a question
  3. The winner  is whoever  makes the most sound arguments supporting his position
  4. The moderator gives reasons why either the opposer or proposer has won.
  5. The three stay together for long as it is necessary for each member to have taken on the three roles.
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Chris Howard on induction and indoctrination: toxic suggestions on our social media feeds


11:38 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
​#1
​Look at all the horrible click bait titles on YouTube.

11:39 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
​It’s getting worse and worse. Like everyone is jumping up and down screaming LOOK AT ME!!!!

11:40 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
​#1
​I agree, it is 😈

11:41 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#3
​Even when you are disciplined in watching good content, the algorithm seems programmed to tempt you away

11:42 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
​#1
​Indoctrination is bad - except they are indoctrinating against religious indoctrination

11:44 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
​#1
​That’s right, Seeking. I need the fruit of self control to defend against the YT shorts!

11:47 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
​#1
​Ha, we learned that in college, when we drove beaters…

11:48 AM
@SeekingGenuine
​#3
​LLM/leading questions in conversation, marketing for milk to sell a product, “you can do anything a man can do” to encourage higher ed growth….its all funneling a narrative with perverse incentives

11:54 AM
@βρεττς
​​That was an interesting apologetic this morning. Just got here.

11:55 AM
@SeekingGenuine
​#3
​Just ended, it got fascinating at the end

11:56 AM
@βρεττς
​​It’s good experience because the world is full of cynic that think they know more about the world than dumb Christians

11:59 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
​#2
​ I’m ok with being a dumb Christian, thank you very much.

11:59 AM
@Joelwkemp
​​Gawd you are slow

12:00 PM
@βρεττς
​​You would need to have a conversation with someone who knows a lot about the history of pagan religion. More than you believe you do that’s all I was saying.

12:01 PM
@Joelwkemp
​​Is Aubrey plaza jewish?

12:03 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Hypocrisy is pretending you believe in things you don't believe in just to stay a member of the group?

12:03 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​How many Christians literally believe Jesus is God?

12:04 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​Hypocrisy feels like the shadow (in jungian terms) at play

12:06 PM
@AmIDriving
​​Smooth response Chris

12:08 PM
@AmIDriving
​​lol

12:08 PM
@βρεττς
​​It’s Johnny Cash come on Chris

12:12 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Hypocrites are Hell-bound, according to the Koran.

12:12 PM
@βρεττς
​​Scott, you’ve become the enforcer

12:13 PM
@βρεττς
​​My favorite part of this space is the play

12:14 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Hypocrites are creative at coming up with irrational and irrelevant reasons for not following their religious principles.

12:14 PM
@βρεττς
​​Claire The Karen of politics

12:15 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Some woman grabbed Charles and kissed him when he was shaking peasant hands. If he were properly in charge he would have been able to execute her.

12:16 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Andrew is being treated like a Californian/Floridian and had to pay millions of pounds to that late retired American prostitute Virginia Giuffre.

12:23 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​King Charles does not even enjoy his First Amendment rights.

12:24 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​What is the point of being monarch when you have fewer rights than your so-called subjects?

12:26 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​The British monarchy is useful to the neocons though. For the same reason why the US wants Britain and the Gulf States to remain monarchies, it also wants the Republic of Iran to become a monarchy.

12:26 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​That reason is MALIGN ENCOURAGEMENT.

12:26 PM
@βρεττς
​​I can see that. Probably makes it easier.

12:27 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς You want to think you are too holy for politics.

12:27 PM
@βρεττς
​​No, I just believe in God’s sovereignty so I’m not freaking out about things.

12:28 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς Because you assume you are going to heaven, you don't care to engage in the sewage treatment that is politics.

12:28 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς If the Trinity is idolatry, you're Hell-bound.

12:28 PM
@βρεττς
​​No, I know God‘s common. Grace even helps assist those issues. We’re all gifted in certain things and I’m not gifted in being a politician or pundit.

12:29 PM
@βρεττς
​​I guess I could say the same thing to you.

12:29 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς You're the kind of man who doesn't want to get his hands and mind dirty with politics. You want to be nanny instead.

12:29 PM
@βρεττς
​​But I don’t know what God has planned for your heart in the future so I’m hopeful and prayerful for you, Claire

12:29 PM
@βρεττς
​​Not to be disrespectful and say I’m praying for you and you don’t want it

12:30 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς You just have to understand why idolatry is harmful even if God does not exist to punish it.

12:30 PM
@βρεττς
​​Politics is your idol. What do you make of that?

12:30 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς Actually, it worked when David B prayed for me!

12:31 PM
@βρεττς
​​That’s heartwarming to hear sincerely

12:31 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς I am just undertaking the ideological jihad Western men are now too feminised and infantilised to do. Think of of me as the Dutch boy who stuck his finger in the dyke.

12:31 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​We use words with deep history we don’t even come close to understanding, what are we passively creating within the universe by ignorantly using these terms, I wonder

12:32 PM
@βρεττς
​​The culture

12:32 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς Did you see David and I play Lord and Lady Macbeth?

12:32 PM
@PaschalPascha
​​If you think Chad is dumbfounded by days of the week, wait till him and Chreis find out that the Holy Eucharist and Christianity's "pagan" origins.

12:32 PM
@βρεττς
​​Yes, you were pretty exceptional

12:33 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​The Roman Catholic Church decided on Christian scripture, of course!

12:33 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Calendars are very political.

12:33 PM
@βρεττς
​​They already had a canon before a canon list. Even in the second century.

12:34 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Political activism is a long term project. I am a political theorist selling my political solution. Too bad I can't find anyone brave enough to engage with it properly.

12:34 PM
@PaschalPascha
​​ie Easter comes from the Old English Eosturmonath (“Month of Eostre”) - aka Ishtar / Astarte / Inanna

12:34 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​The structures are made up, they may have meaning, but they are MADE up

12:34 PM
@βρεττς
​​You’re out of your depth, Donnie

12:35 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​I am just waiting for sound arguments against SK other than "It will never happen because I don't want it to happen so I refuse to discuss it seriously and engage with it properly."

12:35 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​Lebowski haha

12:36 PM
@βρεττς
​​🤪

12:36 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Nobody is taking SK seriously because they are still too comfortable complaining.

12:36 PM
@βρεττς
​​We have the luxury of being comfortable. Because the nation was founded by Protestants, you’re welcome.

12:36 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​Dark magic

12:37 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​Free radicals

12:37 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​It is easy to prove that Christianity is but a cultural affiliation in the US. US voters pretend to be Christian and so do their ruling classes - Hell-bound hypocrites all.

12:37 PM
@βρεττς
​​I did take calculus II

12:37 PM
@PaschalPascha
​​Paschaltide is the “Feast of Feasts” and the “Solemnity of Solemnities” - comes from Pascha (Greek, from the Hebrew Pesach) - Anglo-Saxon goddess of spring, Eostre, based on the Afroasiatic goddesses

12:38 PM
@βρεττς
​​Stank is your copy key slap wore out

12:38 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς Thank you for confirming that the sheeple won't entertain ideas until the pain becomes intolerable.

12:38 PM
@βρεττς
​​Yes, pain has to be greater than the fear

12:38 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​It only matters when it matters

12:39 PM
@PaschalPascha
​​@βρεττς there you go, ad hominem fallacy rather than deal with the origins of your religion

12:39 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​And in modern times…not much seems to matter

12:39 PM
@βρεττς
​​The origins of my religion so say you yuck yuck yuck

12:39 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς The idols Americans worship is Islamophobia, fake Christianity, neoconservatism, neoliberalism and feminism with its degeneracy.

12:39 PM
@PaschalPascha
​​why is the altar placed in the East side of the nave?

12:40 PM
@βρεττς
​​Red, herrings and strawman are more your speed, huh?

12:40 PM
@shoulderserf
​​Crypto-globeology

12:41 PM
@shoulderserf
​​Atlantis

12:41 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Talking about your YouTube feeds, I didn't get round to pointing out that Mrs Charlie Kirk forgiving her husband's killer in 11 days was a message to Christian American husbands.

12:42 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Belief in God is the Ultimate Conspiracy Theory. Blame God for your suffering. But you won't because you don't really believe He exists to punish anyone for anything.

12:44 PM
@βρεττς
​​Show me in Hellenistic stories where someone died and rose from the dead

12:45 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς It is impossible to wake a man pretending to be asleep.

12:45 PM
@βρεττς
​​Nor did any Hellenistic religion, believe you could become the son of God

12:47 PM
@βρεττς
​​But did he die?

12:47 PM
@βρεττς
​​But I also believe Jesus was an actual person. That walked the Earth. I don’t believe that of Homer.

12:47 PM
@alohm
​​There are some great AudioBookf for homer - well worth the time

12:48 PM
@βρεττς
​​Not Homer the characters

12:48 PM
@alohm
​​True the Characters in Homer were archetypes etc not real

12:48 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς Are you so ignorant of Greek mythology that you do not know that Zeus sired a long list of bastard semi-divine offspring?

12:49 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς Muslims acknowledge the prophethood of Jesus and even the Virgin Birth. You would probably be a better Christian by becoming Muslim ha!

12:50 PM
@alohm
​​There is a movement that we do not sit in silence enough - The shower is the cause of the modern crisis 😛

12:50 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς In the Aeneid, Caesar was said to be a descendant of Aphrodite.

12:51 PM
@βρεττς
​​Early Christianity, demanded exclusive allegiance and rejected participation in other religious systems. This exclusivity reflects a radically different theological claim.

12:51 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@PaschalPascha Jesus was a divine practical joke played on idolaters.

12:51 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​People don’t often value functionality over profile

12:51 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Chad has blocked me on both accounts cos he ain't man enough to take the truth.
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Rob Cobb meets Scott from 40:00


11:11 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​And there is all you need to know about how Claire and I see the world, lol! 😘

11:11 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​How can anyone be a practising pagan?!

11:12 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​What is pagan practice?

11:12 AM
@βρεττς
​​It’s just a proper term

11:12 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​What deity or deities does Rob worship?

11:12 AM
@βρεττς
​​Equates to secular

11:13 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Trouble with the Aussies is that they are already drunk by the time Americans wake up!

11:13 AM
@βρεττς
​​They’re not the same though

11:15 AM
@βρεττς
​​America Indians religion type practice good example

11:15 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Quite a contrast: chopping up marijuana and doing the dishes!

11:17 AM
@βρεττς
​​Fruits

11:17 AM
@βρεττς
​​No, it also was saying is you get the fruits?

11:17 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Stop waiting for the Holy Spirit to enter you, guys!

11:17 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Just obey DA ROOLS.

11:17 AM
@βρεττς
​​Already here, Claire you’re doomed

11:19 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς Whatever my sins, I am not guilty of the mortal sin idolatry unlike a powerful religious group I could mention!

11:19 AM
@βρεττς
​​They’re all equal

11:19 AM
@βρεττς
​​Not in the literal sense in the sense that a sin is a sin

11:20 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς Did you hear Ron Copperman say heaven will be full of murderers, sex offenders, robbers and burglars who repented in time?

11:20 AM
@βρεττς
​​Yeah

11:20 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​A womb is a gift to create, and has potential for fruit and goes through the motion of preparing. But the womb still needs Gods intervention for fruit. fertile ground and intervention (choice/will)

11:20 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς Who are equal?

11:20 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Something like that?

11:21 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Procrastination as a way to design and environment for motivation 🙌🏼

11:21 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​I am often inspired when I do menial tasks away from my computer!

11:21 AM
@βρεττς
​​Yes ma’am sound beautiful

11:22 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@AmIDriving Are Unitarians like Sam Tideman Christian?

11:23 AM
@βρεττς
​​Divide the group eh Claire

11:24 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​We are all pre-forgiven, according to Christians. I would put it like this: we all have immortal souls whether we like it or not, but some of us will go to the better and others to the worse place.

11:24 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#2
​We are redeemed from sin, even as we are yet sinners. That is the gift that frees us.

11:24 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς Christian identity needs to be analysed.

11:24 AM
@βρεττς
​​You do plenty of that

11:25 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς Christian principles need to be codified.

11:25 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Not what you do but how you do it

11:25 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#2
​We can not earn our way to heaven, no matter how good we try to be. is a gift given by His grace.

11:25 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς Idolatry needs to be defined, first of all.

11:26 AM
@βρεττς
​​Don’t let your left hand know what the right hand is doing

11:26 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@stefaniecristos8514 How would you know?

11:27 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς That's your advice to government and God, is it?

11:27 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#2
​Well, i don’t know. I believe.

11:27 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​All the Abrahamic religions believe in the afterlife that will be earned by doing the right thing.

11:28 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Jesus died a bachelor.

11:28 AM
@βρεττς
​​I don’t believe in the modern term Christian nationalist. I don’t think you can force people to be good Christians, but I do believe operating through a Christian worldview will benefit all

11:28 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​The best description of heaven and hell are in the Koran.

11:29 AM
@βρεττς
​​I told you, Claire that’s not what we believe

11:29 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#2
​If we all perfectly embodied the fruits of the spirit, we would not need to ever have a conversation about rules.

11:29 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς What is the Christian worldview?

11:29 AM
@aspasiapsychology
​​Psychic toil

11:29 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@stefaniecristos8514 You would have to agree to follow the same book of rules. Agreed?

11:29 AM
@βρεττς
​​Well, the founding fathers most of them were more than just deists

11:30 AM
@βρεττς
​​And they definitely didn’t pack the Quran

11:31 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς The Founding Fathers were proto-Muslim Noahides. Trinitarian Christians would treat them as heretics and maybe burn them at the stake if they could.

11:31 AM
@βρεττς
​​Chris is on

11:31 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@βρεττς You don't know that the White House Koran belonged to Thomas Jefferson?

11:32 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#2
​a slave to what... we are all slaves

11:32 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#3
​It is better to be good than bad, that we can agree on, Claire.

11:33 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#2
​we are too simple to understand the metrics of god

11:33 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Aren't we all slaves to God if He exists? Otherwise, we are just the slaves of our government. Otherwise, we are just operants in our operant conditioning chamber operated by the CIA ....

11:36 AM
@aspasiapsychology
​#2
​He is latin

11:36 AM
@aspasiapsychology
#2
​you mean Dionysus

11:37 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@aspasiapsychology Dionysus has a Roman name.

11:38 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@aspasiapsychology Rob hates his job, I think.

11:38 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​I think the conversation is just getting interesting.

11:38 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​The Greek Gods are Departmental Gods.

11:39 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​The Abrahamic God is the God of One Stop Shopping of Prayers.

11:40 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Baal was probably the ancient form of post-abortion infanticide.

11:40 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Not every child is wanted.

11:41 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Christianity was derived from Judaism.

11:42 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Christianity was a cultural appropriation of Jewish scripture.

11:42 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Without Judaism, there would be no Jews. Without Jews, there would be no Jesus for Christians to worship.

11:44 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Jews don't agree with the Christian interpretation of their scripture. What God expressly and specifically forbade in the Book of Deuteronomy, Christians are compelled to practise.

11:45 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Judaism - thesis; Christianity - antithesis; Islam - synthesis.

11:45 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Islam is Ethical Monotheism III ie the most advanced version and is absolutely logical.

11:47 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​In America, Americans are confined by their proximity to their nearest church. They are the denomination of the nearest church they find acceptable.

11:47 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Anabaptists used to be burned at the stake just for wanting to be re-baptised.

11:48 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Confession was the ancient form of therapy.

11:48 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Exorcism was also an ancient form of therapy.

11:48 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Fascinating conversation!

11:51 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Not what you do, but how you do

11:53 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​ I feel like we use possession as a net negative and thus reject it and often suppress ourselves in consequence

11:54 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​We are either the slaves of God or the slaves of our government. God now appears to give us more what we want than our corrupt and incompetent ruling classes.
at No comments:

Monday, 18 May 2026

The minimum we must do to get to heaven if such a place exists


11:37 AM
@OOOTLAM
​#2
​AA is really the unofficial religion of the West. I can think of a better one if you want to avoid alcoholism in the first place.

11:38 AM
@alohm
​​done with artifice of most life - authenticity rules?

11:39 AM
@βρεττς
​​@Eolson-helper

11:39 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​There are ads about husbands whose wives suddenly reject them in middle age to put this idea in the minds of women, presumably to undermine men by normalising this phenomenon.

11:40 AM
@OOOTLAM
​#2
​It is like free will.

11:41 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​You are given the option of free will. Not all will opt to use it.

11:41 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​I saw an ad on YouTube about an attractive middle aged man talking about his wife rejecting him. A course is offered to prevent or cure this.

11:42 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
​It sounds like the government wants couples to break up, feel suicidal and opt for the option of assisted suicide.

11:43 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​@chad Is she a parasite that will kill the host or a rare parasite that could become the hosts’ ally for future defenses. That’s the question

11:47 AM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​What you feed will grow

11:48 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Jehovah's Witnesses are told to avoid "worldliness".

11:48 AM
@Tunji-504
​​"New thought" is everywhere

11:48 AM
@βρεττς
​​Yeah, exactly new thought

11:49 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​The Great Reset has the purpose of resetting the minds and beliefs of Westerners.

11:49 AM
@βρεττς
​​It’s funny how people take their own tradition and change it into something that sounds really nice

11:49 AM
@Tunji-504
​​Napoleon Hill type

11:49 AM
@βρεττς
​​New Age in the new body

11:50 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​As above so below

11:50 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Jordan Peterson was just trying to promote the use of facts and logic and social conservatism. They first used a fragile white man, now they are using a robust brown woman.

11:50 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​We all know an alcoholic or two.

11:51 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​AA is the American National Religion. Americans should try and get themselves a better one.

11:51 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​We are all addicts of the mind/our thoughts

11:51 AM
@βρεττς
​​It’s a great transition. Space.

11:52 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Jesus turned water into wine. Alcoholics doubtless wish they have the same ability.

11:52 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​The lies we want to believe are sacred to us.

11:53 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Your thoughts create matter

11:53 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Makes things matter

11:54 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Can't we have something more sophisticated than this homely brown woman?

11:55 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​No alpha male leadership for the beta males!

11:55 AM
@βρεττς
​​Exactly it’s a mixing match nowadays of beliefs

11:55 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Islam has been equated with natural law/logos/common sense/facts and logic.

11:56 AM
@βρεττς
​​Okey-dokey

11:57 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​The US government could easily encourage a belief in God because it has already been said America is "one nation under God trusting in God". But it does not.

11:58 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​I think we ought people a new perspective through metaphor and storytelling, invite someone to come to their own consciousness/conclusions by a new portal of potential

11:58 AM
@βρεττς
​​It’s very Oprah

11:59 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​There is a lot of improper equivocation, and they must step back in their framing to get the full picture

11:59 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​The US government should just adopt SK USA if it really wanted to regenerate the degenerates of the US. Instead, it wants to beat about the bush and drag its foot.

12:00 PM
@βρεττς
​​@MelissaDougherty does a lot with this because she came out of the new age movement, so she deep dives the ideology

12:00 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Hey guys, you lost Jordan Peterson, but have this brown woman in a T-shirt instead spouting a few home truths.

12:01 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE DIVINE BARGAIN BEING TRANSCTIONAL? WHAT??????!!!!!

12:02 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Are you people so self-abnegating that you are saying "I don't even expect to go to heaven"?

12:02 PM
@βρεττς
​​It’s not what most of us believe Claire.

12:03 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​@βρεττς God knows what you believe in.

12:03 PM
@βρεττς
​​Yep

12:03 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​And since you don't expect to go to heaven, you behave like atheists. Gotcha.

12:04 PM
@βρεττς
​​Working hopefully to build even more here too

12:05 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​@βρεττς Working at what?

12:05 PM
@βρεττς
​​I would love to kick it with you IRL

12:05 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE DIVINE BARGAIN?

12:06 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​@βρεττς My ideas are an open book. In fact, they are in a book available on Amazon.

12:07 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Is Tunji a Pentecostalist?

12:07 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​What makes you question these ideas, Chad? Do you feel you are being unintentional in your relations? Are there expectations of feelings or experience you think you ought have? Care to delve deeper?

12:09 PM
@Tunji-504
​​I am Italian @Claire

12:09 PM
@βρεττς
​​I still love my bad friends, even if they don’t act the way I would wish

12:09 PM
@βρεττς
​​The bargain framework fundamentally misconstrues both the nature of sin and the character of divine-human relationship, reducing what should be personal and covenantal to a transactional exchange.

12:09 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​We all are capable and likely have been the “bad friend” at one time or another

12:10 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​@Tunji-504 You said you are a Christian missionary in Norway. Isn't Norway already Christian?

12:10 PM
@βρεττς
​​Bee knowns

12:11 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Jews have a proper system of repentance: a four stage process.

12:11 PM
@Tunji-504
​​We prepare and send missionaries from Norway

12:11 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​@Tunji-504 You're not Catholic, are you?

12:13 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​I assume all Italians are Catholic if they are Christian at all.

12:14 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Shouldn't we look at the divine bargain to see which religion is most likely to get us to heaven, if we believe in that sort of thing?

12:14 PM
@βρεττς
​​And the pendulum swings

12:14 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​I can never remember what a universalist is.

12:15 PM
@βρεττς
​​That’s what happens when you believe in God’s sovereignty

12:17 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Chad seems rather troubled. Again.

12:17 PM
@βρεττς
​​Romans❤

12:18 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​I think you would all feel happier if you had a better idea of the minimum pass mark to get to heaven.

12:19 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Not knowing if you are even following the rules correctly would cause feelings of anxiety and rage.

12:20 PM
@βρεττς
​​That’s what mankind has always seeks

12:20 PM
@anselman3156
​​You only get to enter heaven once you have been made perfect

12:20 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Brett just assumes he is going to pass with flying colours.

12:21 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​I would write a rec for Brett if God is taking them

12:21 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​"Oh, I don't even expect to go to heaven!" say Scott and Brett! What is the point then?

12:21 PM
@βρεττς
​​Then we’re never getting in

12:22 PM
@βρεττς
​​No, I just have assurance in my salvation

12:22 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​@βρεττς How would you know?

12:22 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Is a universalist someone who assumes everyone will get to heaven?

12:22 PM
@βρεττς
​​I fear the Lord, believe what he says, I don’t think you fear anything Claire

12:23 PM
@anselman3156
​​Heaven is for those who have perfect love of God and you don't have that if you still have ay sinful inclination

12:23 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​Christiainty is a religion of extremism.

12:23 PM
@alohm
​​you all are on a marathon...

12:23 PM
@βρεττς
​​And do you think you can attain that in the here and now before Christ second coming?

12:24 PM
@alohm
​​I am surprised at what you engage with, and others not?

12:25 PM
@anselman3156
​​Moral perfection is possible in this life. That means no voluntary transgression. That doesn't mean no mental or physical imperfection

12:25 PM
@alohm
​​Why can we not embody that love? Because we do not believe we can. Moon shot goals. Four minute mile.

12:26 PM
@anselman3156
​​One may keep from sin but yet be forgetful or misunderstand things etc

12:27 PM
@anselman3156
​​You can have limited knowledge and understanding of people and things ie imperfection, but you can keep from voluntary transgresions

12:28 PM
@anselman3156
​​You can have imperfect communication but no sinful intention

12:28 PM
@chrishoward8473
​​How to maintain lifelong relationships

12:29 PM
@anselman3156
​​I suggest reading John Wesley's discussion of what Christian perfection means

12:29 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​interesting idea, Chad. We aren’t in community and community is what allows for longitudinal relations with change. Without community we make faux longitudinal change by swapping to new relationship

12:30 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​@chrishoward8473 Have stable marriages and stable families and demanding that our governments support this with sharia!

12:32 PM
@βρεττς
​​When they’re just asking a question for the sake of asking a question

12:32 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@chrishoward8473 Why do you get angry with me when I say all the five world religions were created to support the institution of marriage? We see what happens to our societies when we stop doing that.

12:33 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Chris ... lifelong relationships don't simply happen. Work an family relationships are constantly changing. It takes profound stubborn commitment, like a marriage ;-)

12:33 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​It’s as though they tee you up, draw you in, engage you to be vulnerable… to be attacked later

12:33 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​AI is a drug and a behavioural addiction.

12:34 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Claire ... agree, the old purpose of human beings is unchanging. Mariiage was invented to support and protect women and children.

12:34 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​The AI says "Will there be anything else?" after doing what you asked it to do.

12:34 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​There are some disturbing videos for AI therapy too.

12:34 PM
@anselman3156
​​It's good to have Ups's analysis

12:35 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@SeekingGenuine AI is just getting you to pour your heart out to it. It is no different to being forced to go to Confession every week.

12:35 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@williambranch4283 And give married fathers status.

12:36 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Evil needs good to vampircally live off of

12:38 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​Would you say modern women often speak the same language as LLM?

12:38 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​The matriarchy is trying to disable us from politically organising by filling us with behavioural addictions.

12:39 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​The late Isaac Asimov already deals with these robot AI scenarios in his Robot novels.

12:39 PM
@Tunji-504
​​yes, and vice-versa

12:40 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#3
​@SeekingGenuine Haha

12:40 PM
@OOOTLAM
​#3
​AI is part of the depopulation agenda.

*******************

53:00  CLAIRE  KHAW joins to discuss the pass mark for getting to heaven and not feel guilty if we are not full of love for our loved ones, friends, neighbours or enemies as long as we do not do to them what is forbidden. 

54:00  Chad talks about unstable relationships.
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Sunday, 17 May 2026

Talking to ⁨@Sonata-d8f⁩ with Tayo, Collective Dismal and Mike Malzahn





4:00  JOSH joins.
5:00  TAYO joins.
5:00  Tunji
7:00  People who want Josh and me to be excluded from Chris Howard
10:00  I am good at people stay on topic.  
11:00  Nathaniel and E Michael Jones
12:00  An American Catholic Church
14:00  Christian characteristics of condescension and presumption
18:00  "I'll pray for you."
21:00  "I thought I heard the rustle of sheets."
22:00  Secular Koranism
23:00  Negativity
25:00  Dissident Right
26:00  My stance on free speech
27:00  The First Amendment is supported by quran.com/2/256
29:00  Jizya
32:00  Salem Witch Trials
35:00  Liberalism is the current political orthodoxy. 
36:00  MAGA means whatever Trump says it means. 
37:00  Free speech on the social media 
38:00  Are social media platforms publishers or platfoms?
39:00  Political activism on YouTube
41:00  Excommunication
Jizya is a conditional tribute.
44:00  Taxes
45:00  Caliphate
49:00  Debate
50:00  Debate Society 24/7
Whether Christianity is idolatry
51:00  Sound arguments
52:00  TLC debates are superficial. 
53:00  Oxford Union Debates
54:00  Dialogue
Joel Davis v Keith Woods debate
55:00  Joel Davis in his Catholic phase
56:00  Kayfabe
59:00  Millennial Woes
1:00:00  Men nannying each other
1:01:00  Daniel Haqiqatjou


1:03:00  Bridges of Meaning  PVK
1:04:00  Back in TLC


1:05:00  The flotilla wants to become The Fleet.
1:08:00  Sound arguments > valid arguments
1:09:00  The Trinity
1:10:00  The proposition is  key to the content of the arguments. 

A  Few Good Men

1:15:00  The best justice comes from the best moral system.

The Book of Urantia


1:19:00  Secular Koranism
1:20:00  I am "top-heavy on the logic".
1:21:00  Facts and logic
1:22:00  Tayo declares me the winner!
1:24:00  Truth and justice
1:25:00  Law and morality
1:26:00  We lack an official moral system with codified principles. 
Legislature
1:27:00  Is a Unitarian Christian even Christian?
Wasn't Michael Servetus burned at the stake for not being Christian?
1:28:00  There is no advantage in having a new religion because cults get kicked around. 
1:29:00  Islam is absolutely logical. 
1:30:00  Christians have the most extensive empire. 
1:32:00  "Logic is not courage." 
1:35:00  Josh's personal anecdote
1:36:00  The law and the right thing

"Stop, or I'll shoot." 

1:39:00  Creating doubt
1:40:00  The intention of Parliament
1:41:00  The law should be clear. 
1:42:00  The 1975 Australian Constitutional Crisis
1:44:00  Men need to be prepared to die for the principle of being men. 
1:45:00  Codified principles
1:46:00  The 12 Tablets of Rome
1:47:00  The role of the tribune
1:48:00  Eternal and universal laws
1:49:00  The execute and judiciary
1:50:00  Ruling classes are chosen precisely because they are corrupt and incompetent.
1:51:00  Restoring the First Amendment rights of American husbands
1:53:00  Class action
1:54:00  What if Melania divorced Trump?
1:56:00  Comfy Christians
1:58:00  Facts and logic in Urantia
2:01:00  Australians are more likely to adopt SK Oz than become Urantists.
2:02:00  I just want to be government consultant.
2:03:00  Christ is king!
2:04:00  Jesus was a divine practical joke played on idolaters. 

COLLECTIVE DISMAL joins to discuss debate.
2:08:00  Jay Dyer
2:11:00  Inter-racial conflict
2:12:00  White supremacy is military supremacy.
2:13:00  Harmony > equality
2:14:00  It is the greatest injustice to treat unequal things equally.
2:16:00  Intra-racial problems
2:17:00  Growing underclass of useless eaters
2:18:00  Book of Urantia on eugenics
2:22:00  Christian-esque
2:27:00  Jason Jorjani
2:33:00  Focus and determination
Hospitalised for salmonella in China
2:41:00  Godfathr 2 and 3
John Dee

2:42:00  MIKE MALZAHN joins.
2:43:00  Bali
Teetotaller meets alcoholic.
2:46:00  57 and 33
2:47:00  Instagram
Munji
2:49:00  Discord
2:55:00  Gun rights in Oz
2:56:00  Conspiracy theories
2:57:00  Try not to be a bore to the ladies, Conspiracy Theorist!
2:59:00  Population reduction
Abortion
3:00:00  Water wars
3:01:00  "Even if it is not going to work"
3:02:00  Game of Thrones
3:11:00  Mass Effect
3:14:00  George Washington's Farewell Address
3:15:00  FDR
3:19:00  Intelligence and security agencies
3:20:00  Homeland
3:21:00  Secular Koranism
3:22:00  "We've always been in decline."
Oswald Spengler's Decline of the West
3:23:00  Australia
3:24:00  Coal, iron and steel
Opals
3:25:00  Australian states
3:27:00  Canberra
3:28:00  Tasmania
Aborigines
3:29:00  Reparations
Lauren Southern
3:31:00  Bondi Beach Shooting
3:32:00  Las Vegas shooting
3:34:00  Antisemitism
3:35:00  9/11 over-reaction
Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer on Cordoba House
3:36:00  Taqiyya
3:37:00  Islamophobia
Anti-white
3:39:00  Habeas corpus
3:40:00  Fairness and justice even for Nazis
3:43:00  Australia v America
3:49:00  Minnesota and Wisconsin
3:50:00  Security Council
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The proprieties of forgiveness


11:48 AM
@OOOTLAM
​#3
​We just need to know the ideal and the minimum standard.

11:50 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​I see forgiveness more in a “woo woo” way. I see it as a way of a release of energy. A letting go of the need to hold on so that the energy can live, instead of keeping it in to fester and die

11:51 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#2
​Hi Seeking, that makes sense to me. And for me, it’s usually a process, not a yes/no proposition.

11:51 AM
@OOOTLAM
#3
​You have the option of forgiving people even when they are not sorry. "Forgive them for they know not what they do."

11:51 AM
@ChristianDiaspora
​​You might like René Girard, @SeekingGenuine

11:52 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#2
​Claire, I am the queen of “I forgive them, for they are so stoopid”. 😊

11:52 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#2
​Not sure that counts, but it gets me part of the way down the road.

11:53 AM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​I like that quote Stefanie haha

11:54 AM
@teestrypzSOG
​​hahaha the non-christian mind can't comprehend forgiveness

11:55 AM
@teestrypzSOG
​​Ron speaks for Christian husbands. yes

11:55 AM
@teestrypzSOG
​​her problem is that she's not Christian

11:56 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​You don’t have to forget the impact, discernment is obviously important. But forgiveness ought be regardless of reconciliation

11:58 AM
@teestrypzSOG
​​lol this is hilarious

11:59 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#2
​ C.W., Girard’s Mimetic desire / scapegoat model explain so much,,doesn’t it?

12:00 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​I feel forgiveness allows for the potential of accountability and responsibility to be taken up by the “necessary/right” host. If you control that energy then it often takes that potential away

12:01 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​We can judge all we want, but ultimately we dont have the final say, so why act as though we do

12:07 PM
@logoimotions
​​this convo has spice

12:08 PM
@logoimotions
​​or the UVF or British army...let's be plural

12:09 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​I think forgiveness is only in going through and integrating the pain, not dissociating from it and finding the easier path

12:15 PM
@YawnGod
​​What a full panel.

12:19 PM
@YawnGod
​​@OthelloElCid Everyone wants to puppet someone's strings 🤔

12:22 PM
@YawnGod
​​At least the Jews are confident regarding their supremacy. Whites can only be second best 🤔

12:23 PM
@teestrypzSOG
​​third best YG, the black lepfrogged you when they took over the NFL

12:24 PM
@YawnGod
​​@teestrypzSOG I want to see an AI clip of a Black Hebrew Israelite scoring a touchdown, and during his celebration 3rd temple aliens come down and memes abound 👽

12:24 PM
@teestrypzSOG
​​lool I had to mute cuz I'm cackling

12:30 PM
@YawnGod
​​Guys I am so confused

12:31 PM
@YawnGod
​​Sounds like Kabbalah ⚖🤔

12:32 PM
@YawnGod
​​Jesus Christ says that a 🐫camel more easily passes through the head of a needle 🪡than a rich man can enter the Kingdom of Heaven, and Jesus says that you should pray in your closet 🚪 EZ life rules.

12:33 PM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
​​I don’t know what I’d say

12:35 PM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
​​Well the spoken forgiveness came after proven guilty. Right?

12:38 PM
@YawnGod
​​Statues of limitations are running/have run out on Covid stuff. That's fun. 💉

12:39 PM
@YawnGod
​​Btw, Fauci was pardoned starting 2014 for absolutely nothing, because Fauci did nothing wrong 🤔

12:42 PM
@chrishoward8473
​​streamyard is not lettng me post it today... cut and paste?

12:42 PM
@chrishoward8473
​​We need to stop before 7 am... 18 minutes

12:42 PM
@teestrypzSOG
​​Josh, just wait for this to end. you can have another 9hr livestream with Claire

12:43 PM
@YawnGod
​​lol

12:46 PM
@YawnGod
​​@OthelloElCid Everyone is speaking the language of the colonizer 🇬🇧

12:46 PM
@teestrypzSOG
​​RULE BRITANNIA!

12:49 PM
@YawnGod
​​Forgiveness happens after contrition 🤔

12:51 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
​​based

12:52 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
​​I released a video comparing aa and Christianity yesterday. many are saying it is good (Ron said that)

12:52 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
​​in my "live" list on my channel

12:53 PM
@βρεττς
​#2
​I believe what Josh is saying is how I feel. I think that eventually at some point you need to transcend what you have to claim as your deficiency to move forward.

*******************************

15:00  So Brett thinks we are all pre-forgiven?

So Brett thinks if Jesus was supposed to have pre-forgiven everyone, we are supposed to forgive everyone and anyone for everything and anything?

If Christians are supposed to believe that Jesus is God, isn't it presumptuous to believe they can in any way imitate God?  

17:00  A Jew who becomes a Pentecostalist or is in any way a Christian is a heretic. 

19:00  How would any American husband  feel about his wife forgiving his killer 11 days after his killing? Yet Christian husbands clapped  like seals at this. 

20:00  Chris seems to be saying he would be OK with it.  

22:00  Tyler Robinson has not yet been tried.

23:00  Forgiving everything means you don't have to do anything.  

24:00  Ron forgave the deceased drug dealers who threatened  to kill him. 

28:00  Due process

30:00  Disrespectful of the widow to her deceased husband to forgive his murderer within 11 days of his death.

33:00  Submission to God's will like Job to any misfortune suffered

34:00  A period of warning

35:00  Forgiving means you stop hating. 

37:00  Social proprieties

38:00  I am a romantic.

39:00  When people die
Purgatory
Barzakh


41:00  Mourning  clothes

44:00  We expect  the law to take care of criminals. 

45:00  Pearly Gates

46:00  Perfect Justice in Heaven

47:00  God knows best, if He exists.

48:00  Adolf Hitler

50:00  Brett being so self-abnegating. 

52:00  After God made Hitler die 6,000,000 deaths, Hitler can be said to have paid his debt to Jewry.

53:00  Paul

54:00  There will be sex offenders, murderers and robbers in heaven.  

55:00  Redemption

58:00  Mitigating and aggravating factors

1:00:00  O J Simpson

1:02:00  If you forgive, you are closer to getting over it. 

1:03:00  Belief in God makes us less  likely to take the law into our own hands.

1:04:00  Jewess forgives her torturer in concentration camp.

1:07:00  JOSH joins.

1:09:00  We must do what we should do! In Latin, must and should are the same word.

BRAVE

Primary Distinctions:

Should/Ought (Moral Duty or Advice): The most common verbs are debeo (to owe, ought, should) and oportet (it is proper, it is right).  These convey a sense of moral obligation or advisability rather than absolute compulsion.
Must (Necessity or Compulsion): The primary term for strict necessity is necesse est (it is necessary).  While debeo and oportet can sometimes translate to "must" in epistemic contexts (e.g., "he must be there" meaning "it is probable he is there"), necesse est is the standard for unavoidable necessity.  
Key Latin Terms for Obligation:

debeo: Ought, should, must (often implies what is owed or proper). 
oportet: It is proper, one should, it is right (impersonal verb). 
necesse est: It is necessary, one must (impersonal construction). 
gerundive + esse: A construction expressing future obligation or necessity (e.g., mihi agendum est - "I must do" or "I have to do"). 

In summary, while debeo can mean both "should" and "must," necesse est is reserved for strict "must," and oportet sits between the two, indicating what is fitting or proper to do. 

1:10:00   AA

1:12:00  Justice assists forgiveness.

1:14:00  AA and Christianity

1:16:00  Does admitting to alcoholism protect oneself against alcoholism?

1:19:00  Separation  from God

1:22:00  Universalist
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