Monday, 10 July 2023

Talking to Curious Gazelle for 5 hours about the history and future of the West

7:00  How does Gazelle's garden grow?

9:00  Pruning and cutting down the shrubs and being a tree surgeon

11:00  Mowing the lawn and trimming the shrub

Hydrangeas, roses, rhododendrons and lavender ...

12:00  Caring for white people with Secular Koranism

14:00  I compare myself to John Snow.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Snow

17:00  I should be honoured as a baroness for my contribution to the preservation of Western civilisation.

18:00  Talking about HOK

20:00  I expect mainstream media to rehabilitate me. 

26:00  The Guardian not doing a story on me after all. 

https://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2023/05/q-on-secular-koranism.html

27:00  Guardian Editor Kathy Viner controlled by the CIA

28:00  CIA

29:00  Editorial lines

Fraser Nelson of the Spectator is a neocon.

30:00  Taki

34:00  Hugh Muir and CK receiving national and international coverage

35:00  The media are supposed to report the news and analyse it.

37:00  Facebook friend tried to get me media coverage through his Guardian journalist friend.

39:00  Janice Fiamengo

https://twitter.com/JaniceFiamengo

43:00  Rachel Fulton Brown

45:00  Christians won't talk to me because they already know I will be gunning for their Trinity. 

Michael Rechtenwald

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Rectenwald

47:00  C H Sommers and Milo

49:00  Pamela Geller

51:00  Is there something "deeply atheist" about me?

52:00  Janice Fiamengo interview

1:00:00  "Indigenous science"

1:03:00  Boring Canadians

1:06:00  Ian Miles Cheong

https://twitter.com/stillgray

1:09:00  Intellectual cowardice in academia

Canadians not knowing who they are and what the British have done to them

1:10:00  White identity

1:11:00  Malaysian identity

1:13:00  The Crown

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crown_(season_4)

1:15:00  Gazelle obligingly sums up what I have been trying to tell her. 

1:17:00  My alleged deep internal crisis

1:20:00  HUGH SELWYN MAUBERLY joins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Selwyn_Mauberley

1:22:00  Too many academics

1:23:00  Sexual corruption eventually leads to intellectual corruption leading to amnesia and dementia.

1:24:00  Hierarchy and patriarchy

1:25:00  The Fourth Estate

1:26:00  BBC villages

1:28:00  Gazelle and Hugh speak.

1:30:00  The end of Week In Review on Church of Entropy

1:31:00  Gazelle posting gun and flag photos to shame me

1:33:00  The root of Gazelle's jealousy

1:34:00  Go Fund Me for CK/SK

1:35:00  Gazelle is from Pakistan.

1:36:00  Millennial Woes

https://millennialwoes.substack.com/p/qualifying-for-an-identity?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

1:37:00  Mark Collett

1:38:00  Slander

1:40:00  Andrew Tate

1:41:00  Poetic justice

1:42:00  Andrew Tate is controlled opposition. 

1:43:00  No religion, no principles.

1:44:00  Not having an official religion means that the legislature has the power of an absolute monarch over the citizenry. 

1:45:00  Race cannot be your religion. 

1:46:00  National Socialism and Socialism with Chinese Characteristics

1:47:00  Punishment follows when you blame the Jews.

Jews, Christians and Muslims cursed by God.

1:48:00  WW3 is the curse.

Pearly Thingz

https://twitter.com/pearlythingz

1:50:00  Why people repeat themselves

1:51:00  Posting the flag and gun photos to shame me

1:52:00  Gazelle's Conservative Conversion to Islam thread

Secular Koranism is "Islam adjacent". 

1:53:00  If the American Republic were a Nazi Republic

1:54:00  Every group has to have a religion giving the group identity and purpose.

I am a civic nationalist. 

1:55:00  All empires are civic nationalist and Islam is civic nationalist.

1:58:00  I stand by the right of ethno-nationalists to express their views on immigration. 

 Autobiography of Gazelle

2:00:00  Gratitude to Hugh for being protective

The truth is that we want the laws to be fair enough, whatever our race or religion. 

2:02:00  Gazelle derailing the conversation

2:03:00  Elliott Wess

2:05:00  Religion and history are part of our identity.

https://millennialwoes.substack.com/p/qualifying-for-an-identity?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

2:07:00  White identity

2:08:00  Islam can be used for ethno-nationalist purposes.

2:09:00  Marriage is a eugenic filter. 

2:10:00  Gender equality has been internalised. 

Wrong and conned

2:12:00  Not agreeing with the premise of the question

Trying to get an answer through a range of similar questions 

2:14:00  Feminism has lowered the price of sex with degenerative consequences.

2:15:00  The law

2:17:00  Ten hour space

2:20:00  HOK

2:21:00  Gazelle's 3 hour Space with Mizzy

2:23:00  Gazelle a "fan" of Mizzy?

2:26:00  Gazelle favours capital and corporal punishment.

2:27:00  A country soft on crime and blacks

Piers Morgan

2:28:00  Rising chaos and criminality

2:29:00  Secular Koranism

I am like Gazelle's ex whose delusional thinking is explained.

2:32:00  I am deracinated, apparently.

The last straw

2:33:00  Challenging Secular Koranism

2:35:00  Ex never saw the downside.

2:36:00  The best nationalist leaders tend to come from minority groups.

2:37:00  HOK from Hongkong

2:38:00  The lean and hungry outsider

Dick Whittington

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Whittington_and_His_Cat

2:39:00  Acquiring victimhood status as an immigrant

2:41:00  Why the Dissident Right won't have me on their channels

2:46:00  Obama

2:48:00  Napoleon and non-military power

2:49:00  The power of local councilors

2:50:00  Not maximising the potential use of your power and influence

2:54:00  Rory Stewart

2:55:00  I am described as a prophet by Hugh. 

2:57:00  Ezra Pound Caged

2:58:00  The Cantos

2:59:00  Ezra Pound Caged

3:00:00  "Peter"

3:01:00  Fascist propaganda

3:04:00  PearlyThingZ

3:06:00  Andrew Tate

3:07:00  Mrs Adolf Hitler

Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer

3:08:00  Downfall


3:09:00  Andrew Tate
3:10:00  I am controlled opposition too, apparently.
3:11:00  Denialism
3:12:00  Is Andrew Tate really controlled opposition?
3:13:00  Andrew Tate "good on Covid".
3:14:00  The Far Right and the Far Left are anti-lockdown and anti-vax.
3:18:00  Being anti-vax is a proxy for other concerns. 

3:19:00  The Blob AKA the Deep State

3:21:00  Nationalism is government in the national interest.

Why Secular Koranism is not being platformed by either mainstream or alternative media

3:22:00  Secular Koranism is asking Westerners to change their beliefs as well as their moral and political system.

3:23:00  I am not expecting a mass conversion to Islam but for the BBC to platform Secular Koranism. 

3:24:00  Hugh supports Secular Koranism because it addresses the problem of gender relations in the West.

3:26:00  An official religion for America

Hugh the chad
 
3:28:00  The service I perform for Western men: saying things they dare not say themselves.

3:29:00  HOK returns.

3:35:00  Nationalism and religion

3:36:00  Accepting the reality of religion

3:37:00  America not having an official religion will lead to WW3.

3:39:00  Church of England

3:40:00  The narrative of Secular Koranism

3:41:00  Non-whites in the West mocked by people back home

3:42:00  Christianity is cursed.

3:43:00  Christianity is idolatry.

3:44:00  Hindus

3:48:00  How I arrived at Secular Koranism

3:49:00  The accumulated damage of idolatry over the centuries

The unofficial religion of Americans is the pursuit of happiness at the expense of other countries and also at the expense of other Americans.

3:50:00  WW1 and WW3 destroyed European power.

3:51:00  Why WW1 and WW2 were world wars.

3:52:00  Why WW1 and WW2 was bad for Europeans

3:53:00  Conservatism was a defensive ideology against the ideas of the French Revolution.

3:54:00  The history of Christianity

3:55:00  Roman Catholicism

3:56:00  The Wars of the Reformation

3:57:00  Judaism and the Koran are the only religions with divine revelation.

3:58:00  The Koran is in the vocative addressing the reader directly.

Martin Luther and John Calvin

3:59:00  Making up the rules as we go along

4:00:00  Reductive

4:01:00  Reducing Christianity to the Trinity

4:02:00  Schism between Arians and Athanasians

4:03:00  Beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses

4:04:00  13 Principles of Judaism

4:05:00  Spinoza

4:07:00  Christendom and feminism

4:08:00  50 years of feminism have destroyed 250 years of liberalism and 2000 years of Christianity. 

4:09:00  The institution of marriage kept Western civilisation on an even keel until the last 50 years. 

4:10:00  Demographics of destiny

Wrong, wrong, wrong! 

4:11:00  Maintaining the practice of marriage


4:13:00  My alleged hypocrisy leading to the slippery slope

4:15:00  Unmarried mothers with variously fathered illegitimate offspring

Katie Hopkins

4:17:00  Mohammed Hijab

4:18:00  When Katie Hopkins worked for Rebel Media run by Ezra Levant

4:19:00  Katie Hopkins being nice to a Muslim man

4:20:00  Katie Hopkins demonstrating with Muslims against LGBT

4:22:00  Performative niceness by Islamophobes

4:23:00  Pakistani grooming gangs

4:24:00  Non-white criminal gangs operating in the UK

Which gang should we join?

4:26:00  Social and political clubs

4:28:00  Ex-Muslims

4:29:00  Parliamentary privilege

4:31:00  Classical history

4:32:00  Secular Koranism

4:33:00  No rival ideas to Secular Koranism 

The nature and purpose of politics

4:34:00  Douglas Murray and Anjem Choudary

The most privileged group would be married parents followed by non-parents who would be above sex offenders. Unmarried parents would be treated as sex offenders. 

4:35:00  No public LGBT under Secular Koranism.

4:36:00  Marriage substitutes

4:37:00  The purpose of patriarchy

/Hot topic issues

4:38:00  Marriage not an issue?

4:39:00  Immigration

Japan

4:40:00  Herbivore men
Tang Ping

4:41:00  Transgenderism, gay marriage and being volcel is the predictable reaction against feminism. 

4:42:00  Repeal the Equality Act 2010 to reverse-engineer the matriarchy. 

4:43:00  Focusing on the aesthetics

Gay marriage

4:44:00  "Personal issues"

4:45:00  Teen pregnancy "solved" by the abortion pill.

4:46:00  Porn addiction

4:47:00  Gender relations is another name for reproductive rights.

4:48:00  "The rules are different now!"

The matriarchy doesn't give a shit about its people. 

4:49:00  China thinks in centuries, Westerners cannot think beyond the next general election. 

4:50:00  Aesthetics

4:52:00  Theology and history

4:53:00  The End of Christendom by Malcolm Muggeridge

4:54:00  Christianity has been failing for half a millennium.

The American, French and Russian Revolutions were about rejecting Christianity and monarchy. 

4:55:00  Rejecting the no taxation without representation narrative of the American Revolution

4:56:00  Cromwell's rebellion

4:58:00  The collapse of imperial dynastic system of government in China in 1911

4:59:00  Political disasters in history can be attributed to not following the Koran.

5:00:00  The Founding of the American Republic destroyed Western belief in the Trinity. 

5:01:00  The French Revolution was a continuation of the American Revolution. 

Napoleon said the shahada?

5:02:00  Henry II could have been a medieval European Muslim monarch.

European subjects of Christian monarchs did not enjoy freedom of belief. 

5:03:00  Christian nationalism would be considered even more oppressive than Islam by Westerners. 

5:04:00  Was the First Amendment really a liberal idea or an Islamic idea?

5:05:00  Thomas Jefferson's Koran


Jefferson reading the Koran negotiating with the Barbary pirates

5:07:00  The Koran is the only divine revelation that mentions freedom of belief. 

5:08:00  The Koran does not mention blasphemy. 

5:10:00  The Koran does not say anything about executing apostates. 

5:11:00  The Koran is a liberal document, unlike the Hadith. 


5:13:00  Secular Koranism will definitely not be stoning adulterers.

5:15:00  Islam is kinder about Jesus and Mary than Judaism. 

5:16:00  Katie Hopkins and Owen Benjamin

The shahada

5:17:00  The Bahai

5:19:00  Catholicism, atheism and idolatry

5:21:00  21st century Americans - now neurotic with fear of the future - are readier for Islam than the early Americans. 

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