Anarchist rejecting top down persuasion — 04/27/2023 2:24 PM
For the watchers from the future, this is one of Claire's personas I was interacting with in the YouTube comment section. 🙂
ClaireKhaw — 04/27/2023 8:18 PM
Why don't you answer the question?
Anarchist rejecting top down persuasion — 04/27/2023 11:02 PM
My resistance to systems which punish people who cause no harm is like my desire to breathe air and drink water.
ClaireKhaw — 04/28/2023 2:44 AM
1. Do you think I am proposing systems which punish people who cause no harm?
2. What makes you think I am proposing to punish people who cause no harm?
3. Who do you think I propose to punish and why do you think they cause no harm?
4. Can you give examples of systems that punish people who cause no harm?
5. Why do you think top down persuasion would never work?
6. What kind of persuasion is there apart from top down persuasion?
7. Do you ever discipline your children?
8. Isn’t a father disciplining his child an example of top down persuasion?
9. Are you saying you never discipline your children?
10. Or are you saying you have tried disciplining your children but it doesn’t work?
11. If the top down disciplining doesn’t work, what would?
12. Don’t you obey the law?
13. Isn’t obeying the law accepting of top down disciplining ?
14. What have you got against top down disciplining?
15. How were you disciplined as a child?
Watch Gavin not answer my questions and change the subject!
Watch Gavin use Chatgpt to respond to my questions and think he is being so very clever! Basically, Gavin just wants to win the debate even though he refuses to answer simple questions. He wants to accuse me of being poison while refusing to say why.
Anarchist rejecting top down persuasion — 04/28/2023 2:13 PM
14 question marks and 2 exclamation marks... that's just rude. Focus on one thing at a time please.
ClaireKhaw — 04/28/2023 3:48 PM
Just answer the ones you can. There you go pretending I am being offensive again so you can disengage.
Anarchist rejecting top down persuasion — 04/28/2023 5:44 PM
Some reading material on how to properly comprehend a rational person with rational ideas: https://www.elliottemple.com/essays/discussion-trees
I don't think Claire is interested in making good points nor understanding other people's points as indicated by the wall of questions. The wall of questions is at best a waste of my attention and at worst an attack on my attention. She has no serious interest in communication with me
Try to track Claire's messages:
https://curi.us/2230-tracking-discussions
ClaireKhaw — 04/28/2023 9:01 PM
I asked you a whole bunch of questions which you refuse to answer because answering honestly these obvious questions would mean that you have lost the argument. So now you are pretending that I am not interested in communicating with you.
Anarchist rejecting top down persuasion — 04/28/2023 9:38 PM
I suggest you try to treat me like my time is worth $1000 per hour.
ClaireKhaw — 04/29/2023 12:10 AM
I have asked you very easy yes/no questions that you are refusing to answer for obvious reasons.
1. Do you think I am proposing systems which punish people who cause no harm?
I am guessing the answer is yes.
Are you saying unmarried mothers who casually conceived and parented their illegitimate offspring cause no harm?
Are you really saying unmarried mothers who spawn the next generation of convicted prisoners in fatherless homes cause no harm?
Were you going to say unmarried mothers cause no harm depriving their children of their fathers causing them to become the next generation of criminals?
Could you please answer just this question if you won’t answer the others? It’s hard to believe that no top down persuasion ever worked or that you really believe that.
Anarchist rejecting top down persuasion — 04/29/2023 2:07 PM
So I tried to answer your wall of questions alongside other people's responses to me in the last few days in a video. I'm trying to be considerate of other people while being efficient with my time and attention. I hope this video is helpful to you being able to understand my perspective and how we might simply have a conflict of interest and will have a perpetual disagreement about some things which will never be resolve and the two of us will never find consensus about some things: https://youtu.be/S4lsTbSlK3E
ClaireKhaw — 04/29/2023 3:51 PM
My responses are on the video. I see that you are still evading my question. You do not seem to understand the relationship between government and law as well as the relationship between government and politics. Is it because you are not capable of understanding the relationship or just refuse to do so?
What are your views on top down persuasion?
Are my questions hard to answer?
Why won’t Gavin answer my question on why he dismisses top down persuasion?
If he has a problem with top down persuasion, what is it?
Why won’t Gavin tell us what his problem is with top down persuasion? Is it because he has never tried it?
If Gavin has never tried top down persuasion, are his children completely undisciplined?
Did Gavin not experience any top down persuasion from his father?
Did Gavin grow up in a fatherless home?
Does Gavin have daddy issues?
If you’re a father with daddy issues, won’t your children end up with daddy issues too?
Does having daddy issues mean you have a problem with authority? Does Gavin have a problem with authority because he equates top down persuasion with unmitigated evil?
Is it healthy or correct to regard top down persuasion as unmitigated evil?
Is Gavin saying he has a problem with hierarchy because he has a problem with authority because of his daddy issues?
How could the military be run if the Armed Forces rejected the authority of top down persuasion?
Why won’t Gavin tell us why he rejects top down persuasion?
Anarchist rejecting top down persuasion — 05/03/2023 at 11:28 AM
ClaireKhaw — 05/03/2023 at 12:57 PM
You've already posted this and still refuse to answer my question. Why is this?
Anarchist rejecting top down persuasion — 05/03/2023 at 1:24 PM
The video answers the spirit of your questions to the best of my ability. It's obvious we have a fundamental disagreement. Why can't we agree to disagree?
ClaireKhaw — 05/03/2023 at 1:53 PM
You can't even explain why you don't agree with me about what? I don't even know. Are you really saying you utterly reject top down persuasion? If so, what is your problem with it? Why can't you explain why you have a problem with top down persuasion or explain how you discipline your children? Or does it mean that you don't discipline them at all? If you don't discipline your children at all, won't they become juvenile delinquents or worse, adult criminals? If that is what is going to happen, why should anyone listen to you? Why should I just "agree to disagree" when you are an anarchist who does not even believe in disciplining your children?
How many times are you going to not answer my question, Gavin? Anarchists don't discipline their children, do they? Was your father an anarchist too?
Anarchist rejecting top down persuasion — 05/03/2023 at 3:18 PM
To observers. Note the pattern. The actor asks for answers to questions which the actor is unwilling to accept and repeats their questions in which the actor displays some ulterior motive and agenda which is not in alignment with the "spirit of asking questions". The actor is not interested in the answers to the questions. The actor's asking of questions is merely rhetoric to help with the actor's agenda.
Claire is an actor. Claire is an activist with an agenda.
I gave Claire a 1 week timeout for wasting my time and attention.
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