Wednesday, 13 August 2025

The Abrahamic God is not called Apollo, Secular Koranism is neither honour killing nor Turkish culture

2:06:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins to discuss the use of overwhelming force.

Equality generates more conflict than hierarchy.

2:08:00  "You and whose army?"

Convictions and narratives

2:09:00  In terms of numbers Jews are fewest but the most high status because Christians who are now their third global empire still complain about being the eternal victims of Jews.

2:10:00  Emotional response taking us away from the conjecture that Jews are to blame because of usury ... so ban it with Islam! 

2:12:00  Zionism is an Anglo-American imperial project.

2:13:00  Is crypto-currency like boys exchanging baseball cards? 

2:15:00  Nick Fuentes

Nick Fuentes identifies as a Catholic integralist and Christian nationalist, advocating for a society governed by strict Catholic principles. He has expressed a desire for a "Catholic Taliban rule" in America, which he envisions would ban same-sex marriage and contraception, reflecting his belief in enforcing traditional Catholic values through governance. Fuentes argues that America should be a Christian nation, emphasizing a "white demographic core" and faith in Jesus Christ as essential to national identity. He has stated, “You’re either a Catholic or you’re with the Jews,” promoting a Catholic-dominated media, Hollywood, and government, and criticizing what he perceives as a “Jewish-occupied government.” 

Fuentes supports a return to what he calls a "12th-century" Catholic autocracy, favoring monarchy, crusades, and inquisitions over modern democracy, which he blames for societal issues like obesity, low literacy, divorce, abortion, and liberalism. He uses phrases like “Christ is King” to rally his followers, often tying it to his America First movement, though he insists this is rooted in traditional Christian theology. Critics, however, argue his use of Christianity is a veneer for white nationalism and antisemitism, with some scholars noting his rhetoric echoes historical racist movements like the KKK. His supporters, known as Groypers, have been seen chanting Christian slogans at rallies, blending faith with far-right political activism

Fuentes’ public statements also show a rejection of liberalized Catholicism, advocating for a revival of conservative, traditionalist Catholic values. He has distanced himself from Protestantism in some instances, suggesting Catholic truth should dominate. However, his views are controversial, with Catholic leaders like Bishop John Stowe denouncing them as incompatible with legitimate Catholic teaching. Posts on X reflect ongoing debates about his intentions, with some accusing him of equating standard Christian concerns with extreme antisemitic views.

2:16:00  Winning arguments

2:17:00  Rake calls the Abrahamic God "Apollo".

2:19:00  Christians culturally appropriated the most powerful deity conceivable - the Abrahamic God -  from Jews for a reason. 

2:21:00  JAMES CARNEY joins.

2:22:00  The Abrahamic religions

Idolatry

2:23:00  Islamophobia

2:24:00  Category error

2:25:00  Turkey

2:26:00  James conflates the culture of Turkey which he obviously hates eg honour killings with Secular Koranism a legal system. In both the UK and Turkey, honour killing would be classified as murder. 

It is infuriating to have Islamophobes like James Carney conflating Secular Koranism with honour killings. 

2:27:00  "She thinks religion is a means to an end."

2:29:00  "You can't change people's minds."

Obviously not if they cannot be moved by arguments, but this is  what the entire legal profession has been trained to do and what the entire legal system is supposed to do: present, consider, reject and accept arguments on the basis of their soundness. 

2:31:00  "Religion isn't a consolation for her."

Religion is a belief system, a value system and a rule system.  

My belief is that the Koran is the best available guide to humanity and that honest, rational and decent people should be moved by sound arguments instead of believing  in nonsense and speaking it. 

2:31:30  I have no problem allowing people to hold opinions different to mine but when they are clearly talking and believing in nonsense eg Apollo is the name of the Abrahamic God, I feel compelled to contradict them.  

2:32:00  Climate change and ready-made religious programmes

2:33:00  Constructing a religion

How does a religion come about?

2:34:00  Hinduism is organic.

2:35:00  Regional Christianity

2:36:00  Turkey

2:38:00  "I was married to a Turk."

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