Friday, 23 January 2026

E Pluribus Unum - the American Dilemma


11:46 AM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​Is it heresy if you don’t believe?

11:47 AM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​Do agnostics get to call out heresy like it’s a principle? But without 1st amendments?

11:49 AM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​Also I find it charming when Claire-poo mimes whiny questioning character. Is so adorable


11:49 AM
@YawnGod
​​As a faithless, godless heathen, I delegate my faith to the believers. I believe in them. They will pray for me 🙏

11:49 AM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​Yes sir

11:50 AM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
​#2
​I love the burping Farris buller app

11:50 AM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​It’s either that or the velociraptor talking

11:53 AM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
​#2
​It’s the people not like me ism that makes most of us bristle. It’s the spirit of prejudice at work

11:55 AM
@YawnGod
​​🤡"Everything you say can and will be used against you, and this doesn't apply to me" 🤡

11:55 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
​#1
​@Olson, The first step to working through is your recognition of your reaction. Which may be righteous, by the way.

11:55 AM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​I can understand the more I listen. It’s not much different than things I’ve said. He’s laying out different models of epistemology

11:55 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
​Claire does a good Trump, LOL

11:55 AM
@YawnGod
​​NATO is a cartel and POTUS is the Big Boss, Ms. Khaw, City of London be damned.

11:56 AM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
#3
​Trump has never done anything tho

11:56 AM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​He’s requesting we meditate on our models and if we really walk them out or live our presuppositions

11:57 AM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
#3
​I feel like I gave Trump a chance for 10 years now and he has never done anything

11:57 AM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​It’s all a spiritual realm that’s the key

11:58 AM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​Claire with the English branded hate speech

11:59 AM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​We over here in the states don’t have hate speech I don’t think. Not legally

11:59 AM
@YawnGod
​​Not cops.
#2
​I could be wrong

12:00 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
#3
​WEAR THE SHIRT CHRIS AND LIKE IT

12:00 PM
@YawnGod
​​Police are a gang, ICE is a gang, Crips are a gang, Marine Corp is a gang...it's gangs all the way down. The name for a group of chimpanzees is called a "troop" for a reason 🤔

12:00 PM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​Intersectionality via fashion

12:01 PM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​That could be a really big thing….

12:01 PM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​That’s what she said

12:01 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
​I refuse to get sucked into the Trump binary. Often though I just have to stop watching the news. Working on taking it all in while keeping a peaceful heart.

12:01 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
#3
​Stefanie I think that's probably what mosto of us do but we're just not as loud about it

12:02 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
​Was I loud? Not my intention…

12:02 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
#3
​No I meant to say we're not as loud as the people who are yelling

12:03 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
​Ah, yes, peace is not loud by its very nature, I suppose.

12:03 PM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​I think it’s an instinctual outgrowth of a more deadly age.

12:04 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
​What gets me riled up is the people who break ties with friends and family over politics. That is my trigger.

12:05 PM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​And we never really examine this instinctual stuff or the deadlier age and how we relate to it today

12:05 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
#3
​I am a failed cult leader but I won't give up

12:05 PM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​Nice Theodore quote jer

12:06 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
​Olson, follow the Walk for Peace. Buddhist monks walking from TX to D.C. it will move your ❤

12:08 PM
@ethan.caughey
​​@MarkS.-ry7bm Never give up.

12:09 PM
@YawnGod
​​I have so much faith in "we" that I will let we do it. 🤔

12:12 PM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​None of us are perfect…. Speak for yourself.

12:16 PM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​Jenny is what’s startling

12:16 PM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​To Forrest

12:17 PM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
​#2
​Or Forrest jr

12:18 PM
@ChadMatthewAlvin
#2
​Kind agreeing Claire says

12:19 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
​Maybe ask others what about his message they find helpful?

12:20 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@stefaniecristos8514 What do you think O G Rose is saying?

12:20 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
​Maybe they can “Translate” him?

12:21 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
​I don’t know either. I started listening and was turned off by his pace and big words and decided if I have to work that hard at understanding him, I am not up for the task.

12:22 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
​But I wasn’t triggered, I just moved on to some watercolor tutorials and was happy. 😊

12:22 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@stefaniecristos8514 I said on Neal's video interviewing O G Rose that I would like to interview anyone who posted a comment under that video what they think he is saying!

12:23 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@stefaniecristos8514 A young empty-headed good-looking young man called Adam Simon started promoting O G Rose on Mark Parker's channel.

12:24 PM
@chrishoward8473
​​well, at least he was good looking!

12:24 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
​Interesting how different voices grab the attention of the hive mind, isn’t it? He must be tapping into something. Maybe they can’t articulate it yet and need to process things

12:24 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
​#1
​I missed that part too, Chris, LOL

12:25 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@stefaniecristos8514 I am concerned that nonsense is being promoted and they are plumbing the depths of ignorance and stupidity of American Christians who go along to get along.

12:26 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​The US government is infamous for its psychological experiments eg Milgram, Skinner on operant conditioning. YouTube is an operant conditioning chamber.

12:27 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​There is the story of the Emperor's New Clothes.

12:28 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
​It’s good that you are speaking up for what you believe, Claire. Whether the words land is another story.

12:29 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@stefaniecristos8514 I might as well say what I think is the truth and confide in people what I think is happening!

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10:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins.

BRAVE

Euthyphro’s Dilemma is a philosophical challenge first presented by Plato in his dialogue Euthyphro, where Socrates questions the nature of piety (or holiness).  The dilemma asks: Is something good because God commands it, or does God command it because it is good? 

This question presents two problematic options, known as the "horns" of the dilemma:

First horn (God commands it because it is good): If something is good independently of God’s will, then goodness exists apart from God. This raises concerns about God’s sovereignty—He would be subject to a higher moral standard, limiting His power and independence. 

Second horn (It is good because God commands it): If goodness depends solely on God’s command, then morality becomes arbitrary. God could make acts like murder or torture good simply by decreeing them, which contradicts our intuition that some actions are inherently wrong. 

Many theologians and philosophers argue that the dilemma is a false dilemma, suggesting a third way: Goodness is grounded in God’s own unchanging, perfect nature.  In this view, God does not arbitrarily decree morality; rather, His commands reflect His inherently good character. Therefore, an action is good because it aligns with God’s nature, not because He commands it out of whim, nor because He merely reports an external standard. 

This resolution preserves both God’s sovereignty and the objectivity of morality, avoiding the pitfalls of arbitrariness or subordination.

13:00  We have to believe that God is good, otherwise, what would be the point?

15:00  Free choice machine

16:00  Free will gives us more dignity and a higher status than angels. 

17:00  We have to understand the difference between good and evil in theory and choose correctly in practice.  

18:00  Prohibitions

19:00  Cat and mouse

20:00  Survival of the fittest

21:00  Serving only one master

22:00  The horns of a dilemma

23:00  Speaking the truth as we see it

24:00  The British monarch does not enjoy First Amendment rights.

25:00  It is heresy to say God is evil. 

26:00  The Book of Isaiah 45:7 says God created good and evil. 

28:00  Not  even satisfying our own low standards

29:00  OLSON joins to discuss the spirit of the age.

30:00  Trump is the archetype of the alpha male leader. 

31:00  O G Rose's nonsense

https://www.youtube.com/@O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel

32:00  Charisma: repellent and attractive magnetism

34:00  Godel's Theorem

35:00  Trump's agenda

37:00  Liberals hate Trump because the moment they started to notice him, they knew their days were numbered. 

The killing of Renee Good represents the end of intersectionality in the US and the West. 

38:00  Institutions

39:00  Individual and collective identity

40:00  Individual pride or team spirit

42:00  Crowd events can be mob violence.

43:00  T-shirt and group identity

44:00  Pluribus

The American Dilemma

45:00  States rights or federal supremacy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States%27_rights

46:00  Group solidarity

47:00  ICE 

49:00  Quicksand of Controversy

51:00  None of us are perfect. 

54:00  What would you like yourself to be?

55:00  Forest Gump

Is the spirit of age good or bad?

56:00  The community

57:00  O G Rose

58:00  "Tell us all about yourself!"

1:01:00  Chad defends Neal interviewing skills. 

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