11:42 AM
@Eolson-helper
#2
Yes. There is a gift of receiving love well.
11:44 AM
@Eolson-helper
#2
I have found it is not only US. I have seen this struggle all over the world.
11:44 AM
@MessiahSubstitute
Granny dumping is an American expression.
11:45 AM
@Eolson-helper
#2
But not exceptional to America.
11:45 AM
@MessiahSubstitute
I am reminded of Grandpa in The Simpsons.
11:45 AM
@MessiahSubstitute
#3
@Eolson-helper Not by any means.
11:47 AM
@MessiahSubstitute
#1
In the UK the carers in care homes and outside are mostly non-whites wondering why white people don't look after their elders.
11:49 AM
@BrentBrowling
your belly button navel is primary source evidence that we are one organism if you zoom out far enough
11:50 AM
@MessiahSubstitute
#1
Patriarchy values wisdom and experience, matriarchy is the shallow cult of youth and beauty. The West is a matriarchy.
11:52 AM
@MessiahSubstitute
#1
Americans now have access to state-assisted euthanasia being pioneered in some states.
11:53 AM
@MessiahSubstitute
#1
As of 2026, physician-assisted suicide, or "medical aid in dying", is legal in fourteen US jurisdictions.
11:54 AM
@chrishoward8473
@MessiahSubstitute that is a BIG issue!
11:55 AM
@MessiahSubstitute
#1
Illinois, California, Colorado, Delaware, the District of Columbia, Hawaii, Montana, Maine, New Jersey, New York, New Mexico, Oregon, Vermont, and Washington.
11:55 AM
@BrentBrowling
Far Eastern cosmological ideas are much more sophisticated than the West - ie nonduality (individual vs collective; essence vs substance; subject vs object; freewill vs determinism; nature vs nurture
11:55 AM
@MessiahSubstitute
#1
Anyone seen Logan's Run and Soylent Green?
11:55 AM
@BrentBrowling
etc etc
11:56 AM
@MessiahSubstitute
#1
Land empires that were built up gradually are more socially conservative.
11:57 AM
@BrentBrowling
colonialism is based on selfish individualism so we shouldnt expect colonial societies to embody anything other than such
11:58 AM
@BrentBrowling
love your neighbor?
11:58 AM
@MessiahSubstitute
#1
Wikipedia has a list of countries by suicide rate.
11:58 AM
@BrentBrowling
love your enemy?
11:58 AM
@MessiahSubstitute
#1
The Inuit have a very established way of dealing with their elderly. But then they are nomadic.
11:59 AM
@BrentBrowling
Greenland's colonialism over Inuit sovereignty is being "Trumped"
12:00 PM
@MessiahSubstitute
#1
@BrentBrowling Care of the elderly is assumed to be undertaken by their offspring in all patriarchies, imperial or not. The Ten Commandments mention honouring our parents.
12:01 PM
@MessiahSubstitute
#1
If you care for the elderly, you create a chain of natalism that supports marriage and the family. Easier said than done.
12:01 PM
@BrentBrowling
yes, i wasnt debating your Inuit remark, only adding to it with the fact that colonialism is individualism on steroids
12:03 PM
@BrentBrowling
Roman imperial expansionism is the root of much of the hypocrisy in Christian civilizations
12:03 PM
@MessiahSubstitute
#1
@BrentBrowling To maintain your empire, you need to breed your citizens which is presumably why all ancient civilisations support patriarchy. That is what is meant by demographics is destiny.
12:04 PM
@MessiahSubstitute
#1
@BrentBrowling Chinese ancestor worship was all about frightening Chinese men and women to have an heir and a spare or else be mocked and lowered in status.
12:06 PM
@MessiahSubstitute
#1
@BrentBrowling Patriarchy is easily eroded by atheism, feminism and sexual liberation from the rules of marriage and good parenting.
12:08 PM
@MessiahSubstitute
#1
The whole idea of making married couples have an heir and a spare is to be able to take the attitude of "Plenty more where that came from" after a ruinous war.
12:08 PM
@MessiahSubstitute
#1
@BrentBrowling Have you had a look at the Japanese and Korean birth rates, not to mention the Chinese ones?
12:09 PM
@Eolson-helper
#2
‘It depend on the quality of the waffle, and the quality of life being lived’ - Stranger than fiction
12:09 PM
@MessiahSubstitute
#1
Even Hindus in India are complaining that the Muslim birth rate is higher than the Hindu one.
12:09 PM
@BrentBrowling
@MessiahSubstitute yes, current political establishment had adopted Western values to compete with the West, but dig beneath the surface into the culture you will see nonduality still valued
12:10 PM
@MessiahSubstitute
#1
The old rule is that only married couples are entitled to enjoy recreational sex AND NO ONE ELSE.
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