10:35 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Some of you may heard of accelerationism about making things happen sooner. All political activists are accelerationists.
10:36 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Big pharma is in control of hospitals and doctors. Iatrophobia is not a new thing.
10:38 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
No man can serve two masters.
10:38 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
You gonna ignore the chat again, Scott?
10:40 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Why do you think doctors used to be made to swear the Hippocratic oath?
10:40 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Don't you think big pharma only recently started to bribe doctors?
10:40 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
There is tension in the chat that you are ignoring, Scott.
10:41 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Am I going too fast for you?
10:41 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
It's back to some soft and sappy story.
10:43 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
No, of course you don't want to be forced, Scott. God forbid that you will heed your MORAL IMPERATIIVE.
10:44 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
"Waiting for the Holy Spirit to enter you" is such a GREAT WAY of ignoring your MORAL IMPERATIVE.
10:45 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Does anyone want to discuss the MORAL IMPERATIVE? Or do you just want to have a good cry at your learned helplessness?
10:46 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#3
@Claire, how would you engage with your moral imperative?
10:46 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
i hesitate to intrude on your group therapy. IS IT GOING TO BE GROUP THERAPY FOR MEN forevermore???
10:47 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@SeekingGenuine My moral imperative is to speak the truth as I see it. That is all it is.
10:48 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Sappy story after sappy story after sappy story ... UGH.
10:48 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
Claire, let them be. Dust off your sandals and let’s moral imperative another day.
10:50 AM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@stefaniecristos8514 These are not men you would want any daughter of yours to marry, are they? They are not heroic men. They are men who display womanish helplessness every day.
10:50 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Claire, I think you have a point that putting yourself in the best place/stance to encounter the Holy Spirit is part of the process as well, as though you must be seeking not just waiting
10:50 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@stefaniecristos8514 The American Republic would never have been founded with these soft and sappy men.
10:51 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@SeekingGenuine All I am doing is just speaking the truth as I see it. It's not that hard!
10:51 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
Argh, AA again - the UNOFFICIAL religion of America.
10:52 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
Americans should be ashamed that AA is their UNOFFICIAL religion.
10:53 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
I have just realised where "Woke" comes from - it is the THIRD AMERICAN AWAKENING. The zombies are woken.
10:55 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@SeekingGenuine These men don't even follow the example of Jesus who at least turned over the tables of the moneylenders to make a point about usury.
10:56 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
If Jesus was anything at all, he was a revolutionary, not some stupid sacrificial lamb. Interestingly, his revolutionary purpose is not yet understood nearly 2000 years later.
10:57 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
Oh, wow, Everett's father is questioning the Trinity. Hahahaha
10:57 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
So THE TRINITY created the Universe, did it, asks Papa Everett? Well, well, well!
11:00 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
If you have any convictions, defend them, Everett.
11:00 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
Would you like to have friends with NO CONVICTONS?
11:01 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
At least Papa Everett is questioning the beliefs he was expected to accept unquestioningly.
11:01 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
It’s as though a contract was broken, that’s a good point @EJ. Where is the line between frame breaking and trauma
11:02 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
You can do this trio thing online after agreeing to do so, so no one need feel ambushed or violated.
11:02 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
That to me is the “toxic tension”
11:03 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
But it’s definitely a fine line, because tension is not the issue, it’s the improper use of the tension
11:03 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
You could have a conversation about the nature and purpose of religion and do some comparative religion. Why is that so transgressive for educated and civilised people?
11:04 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@SeekingGenuine So we put our social skills to the test. You could just ask questions without yourself making any claims.
11:06 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
I am talking to the descendants of settlers and pioneers who circled their wagons when the injuns attacked who now cannot even talk about the nature and purpose of religion at their own dinner party!
11:06 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
@Claire, By asking a question I believe you are taking a stance. You may not be claiming something but you are positioning yourself about something and I think that matters
11:07 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
I am so sorry to be pestering Americans, but your group is the most proximate group in a position to do anything about your government and US foreign policy. Have I got the wrong group?
11:07 AM
@Eolson-helper
Claire - yes. You have the group wrong.
11:08 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
If you are all saying to me that your representative democracy is no good and neither are your constitutional rights you refuse to defend in your constitutional republic, then it is all lost.
11:08 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@SeekingGenuine So you don't want to be seen to be taking a position. Okay ......
11:08 AM
@Eolson-helper
Claire - can you correctly articulate my political position?
11:09 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@SeekingGenuine There is a comment on our stream addressed to you from Telegram.
11:09 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Claire, I THINK I’m actually saying the opposite. I’m saying you are always standing somewhere and need to take accountability for that.
11:10 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@Eolson-helper You have been consistently APOLITICAL.
11:11 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@SeekingGenuine What do you mean?
11:11 AM
@Eolson-helper
Claire - here is my frustration with our relationship. You cry out with all caps comments demanding we play with you. So many have taken the time to listen and learn from you. We appreciate your…
11:13 AM
@Eolson-helper
Persistance and deep thoughts, but we have chosen not to see the things the way you do. And then we have asked for you to take the time to do the same for us. Yet you haven’t. And you seem to pigeon…
11:13 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@Eolson-helper You prefer to pray to Jesus and ignore the problem.
11:14 AM
@Eolson-helper
Hole me into some shadow opponent who has irrational and wildly swinging positions.
11:15 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@Eolson-helper You may be aware that Celsus the Roman philosopher said Christianity was intended to be a religion of slaves and women.
11:16 AM
@Eolson-helper
Claire- dispite me talking with you for almost a year now, the fact that you think I’m apolitical and just wanting to pray to Jesus tells me you haven’t been listening. Please listen better.
11:17 AM
@Eolson-helper
And then I will engage more with you.
11:18 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@Eolson-helper Then say it better.
11:19 AM
@Eolson-helper
Goldsby- I liked your latest whiskey video!
11:20 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@Eolson-helper Megan has gone now, but I told her I appreciated it too.
11:22 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@Eolson-helper It is interesting that the men are not discussing it though. Scott mentioned it in passing but damned it with faint praise suggesting it was women's talk before talking about sport.
11:22 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Olson, thanks! I really feel like the conversations I’ve listened recently seemed to have a different felt presence. And I “selfishly” want people believing that
11:22 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@Eolson-helper It was the PERFECT sabotage.
11:22 AM
@Eolson-helper
Why would that be selfish?
11:24 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
I’ll answer your question with a question, Olson. Do you feel an emotional tactic for a call to action can be manipulative?
11:25 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@SeekingGenuine All speech is manipulative if all speech is directed at saying indirectly what we want and hope for.
11:26 AM
@Eolson-helper
I’m not sure. I’m stumbling over ‘an emotional tactic’ phrase.
11:27 AM
@Eolson-helper
EJ! I would love to talk with you!
11:29 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
@Claire I think when I’m pointing at something it’s about encouraging looking towards that direction not towards that specific thing
11:30 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
1:19:00 is the meat of the sandwich for De Young on Tucker. The rest is just stupid talk about giants.
11:30 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
And I say “selfishly” @Olson because I want others to be called to action and be better so I can be better through them.
11:31 AM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@SeekingGenuine I am sorry I find you sometimes very hard to understand.
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