10:49 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
What is the point of repeating this story?
10:50 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Isn't POTUS Christian?
10:51 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Isn't the Western political establishment a bunch of fake Christians?
10:52 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Why keep repeating this story that no Christian will consider emulating? Western men claiming to be Christian refuse to even discuss body modification, don't they?
10:53 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Shouldn't Caesar also submit to God?
10:53 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Didn't Muslims conquer the Byzanine Empire?
10:54 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Are you going to check if anyone is listening by asking them questions after your reading?
10:55 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
These readings are meaningless. No one is listening and no cares to stand up for any principle because Christians literally have no principles.
10:55 AM
@ZuluScout
#3
you do understand that kyrios is a different word than theos in the Septuagint, right?
10:56 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Christians literally get away with saying anything they like and no one will correct them because religious leaders are so pathetically grateful that anyone still wants to identify as Christian.
10:56 AM
@ZuluScout
#3
Malachi 3:6 (as found in the Septuagint) is kyrios
10:57 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Khums is the Islamic rate of tax ie 20%. Wouldn't Americans like to pay a flat rate tax of 20%?
10:57 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ZuluScout What do you think are these pointless readings when no one is even listening?
10:58 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
All these pointless readings are merely performative. The most important issue for Christians to discuss if they believe in the afterlife - which they don't - is whether Christianity is idolatry.
10:59 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
You won't care if idolatry is a mortal sin if you are functionally atheist. But why would atheists pretend to be Christian? Because they are hypocrites.
11:00 AM
@ZuluScout
#2
Claire, I was pointing out the translation of the word Lord here for you because our last conversation where you were confused when scholars mean by the evolution of rhr concept of "God"
11:01 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ZuluScout Jews and Muslims say God is one and that's good enough for me.
11:01 AM
@ZuluScout
#2
Lord in Malachi 3:6 (as found in the Septuagint) is kyrios, not theos
11:01 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ZuluScout So God has more than one name. So what?
11:02 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Shouldn't Caesar submit to God?
11:02 AM
@ZuluScout
#2
That is highly reductionist and simplistic take, every tradition has esoteric vs exoteric teachings for those with eyes to see
11:02 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Wow, another Christian who cannot correctly pronounce Christendom. Pathetic.
11:03 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ZuluScout I already know Christians are idolaters. Righteous Jews and Muslims would agree with me.
11:03 AM
@ZuluScout
#2
The theological concept evolves throughout the compilation of texts
11:03 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ZuluScout Do you consider yourself Christian?
11:04 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ZuluScout You either want to think there is only one Abrahamic God in which case you are an ethical monotheist, or you are a polytheist.
11:04 AM
@ZuluScout
#2
I was anointed by my Bishop
11:05 AM
@ZuluScout
#2
esoteric vs exoteric
11:05 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ZuluScout Do you worship the Trinity?
11:05 AM
@ZuluScout
#2
dig a little deeper
11:05 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@Eolson-helper Shouldn't Caesar submit to God?
11:05 AM
@ZuluScout
#2
Christ = Anointed
11:06 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ZuluScout What do you want me to agree with you about?
11:06 AM
@ZuluScout
#2
I dont necessarily want you to agree, I was pointing to what we discussed last time in the text at hand
11:07 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ZuluScout What do you consider me to be uninformed or incorrect about?
11:08 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ZuluScout Do you wish to hold on to your Christian identity?
11:09 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@Eolson-helper Shouldn't Caesar submit to God?
11:09 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@Eolson-helper Why won't you answer?
11:09 AM
@ZuluScout
#1
you can hold to what you will, im okay with that.. Just the Septuagint canon doesn't have just a single Abrahamic "G-d", and scholars know that, as do esoteric interpretations of Kabbalah
11:10 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@Eolson-helper How would you answer if you were Jesus and I was a Pharisee asking you if you think Caesar should submit to God?
11:10 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ZuluScout You have heard of the 13 Principles of Judaism, haven't you?
11:11 AM
@ZuluScout
#2
identity in law is not chosen
11:12 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@Eolson-helper If Christians had faith they would have a more principled leader than PVK who refuses to discuss body modification on his YouTube channel.
11:12 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ZuluScout "identity in law is not chosen" - What do you mean?
11:14 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@Eolson-helper I will keep asking my question again and again because it appears you are not Christian enough to answer my question: Shouldn't Caesar submit to God?
11:14 AM
@chrishoward8473
@ZuluScout Most aspects of identity are not chosen.
11:14 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
I really don't know if stupidity or fear is the problem. What is it, @Eolson-helper?
11:15 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@chrishoward8473 We can display our moral agency by rejecting the religion of Mum and Dad.
11:15 AM
@ZuluScout
#2
Bishop's jurisdiction
11:16 AM
@ZuluScout
#2
exactly Chris, social status vs political status are not synonymous
11:16 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@Eolson-helper Have you heard of the Mandate of Heaven? A Chinese person would be able to answer the question I asked you *without hesitation*.
11:18 AM
@ZuluScout
#1
"What your ancient forefathers were, you are today without doubt or contradiction"
11:18 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Real men have principles they will die to defend. What principles do Christians have?
11:19 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@Eolson-helper Are you sure you are worshiping the right deity?
11:20 AM
@Eolson-helper
Yes
11:20 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@Eolson-helper How can you be sure?
11:22 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ZuluScout The Koran warns against people sticking with the religion of their ancestors just because it is the religion of their ancestors when their ancestors had no guidance from God.
11:23 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@Eolson-helper If you wanted a proper discussion on theology, you would be talking to me instead of these bozos.
11:27 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Store up your good deeds that will bring you treasures, obviously.
11:28 AM
@ZuluScout
#2
Claire, you asked if I was pretending to be a Christian so I pointed out that I was anointed by my Bishop, which was his choice. Then we discussed how identity in law not being a choice
11:30 AM
@ZuluScout
#2
Claire, ask Chezi about Shem HaMephorash
11:31 AM
@ZuluScout
#1
also, ask your Muslim pals about Al-Asma al-Husna
11:33 AM
@ZuluScout
#2
it means theos is distinct from kyrios
11:34 AM
@ZuluScout
#2
"theo"logy
11:35 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ZuluScout I can't even say it!
11:36 AM
@ZuluScout
#2
Ka-BAAL-ah
11:37 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ZuluScout Kyrios means Jesus. Do you think Jesus is God?
11:38 AM
@ZuluScout
#2
Jesus was born 2 centuries after Septuagint was produced
11:40 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
To talk of Jesus in the present tense suggests you think he is still alive which means you think he is immortal. If you think he is immortal, it means you think he is divine, which makes it idolatry.
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