12:10 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#2
Claire, you are agnostic, right?
12:10 PM
@OOOTLAM
@ZiranofWuWei No scripture can prove the historicity of any of the conflicting narratives. Islam is however absolutely logical and preferable because it endows men with certain unalienable rights.
12:10 PM
@OOOTLAM
@stefaniecristos8514 I confirm my agnosticism.
12:11 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#2
If you believe what you are saying about Islam, why are you not consider yourself Muslim?
12:11 PM
@OOOTLAM
Why send your daughters to college? Perhaps an apprenticeship in a brothel would be preferable.
12:12 PM
@OOOTLAM
@stefaniecristos8514 Because Secular Koranism is logical whether or not you believe in God.
12:12 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#2
You just consider religion as a control mechanism and so that one is the best in your view?
12:14 PM
@OOOTLAM
@stefaniecristos8514 If you want to get to heaven ASAP and have a country to run properly, and didn't care about what friends and family think of your decision, why wouldn't you choose sharia?
12:15 PM
@OOOTLAM
@stefaniecristos8514 Nobody alive knows whether the afterlife exists. But for some reason Jews are the world's most ancient and powerful tribe and Christians and Jews have stolen their scripture ...
12:15 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#2
I don’t understand what you mean
12:16 PM
@OOOTLAM
The point is that Christians and Muslims cannot deny that their religions are based on the Torah - the first preserved divine revelation to be trumped by a final revelation ie the Koran.
12:16 PM
@OOOTLAM
@stefaniecristos8514 Aren't Jews the world's most ancient and powerful tribe?
12:18 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#2
I would not call it “stolen”, Claire.
12:19 PM
@ZiranofWuWei
the concept of "Jew" dates to the medieval not ancient
12:19 PM
@OOOTLAM
@stefaniecristos8514 "Culturally appropriated" then.
12:20 PM
@ZiranofWuWei
Yehudi is a geographical moniker not purely ethnic
12:21 PM
@OOOTLAM
@stefaniecristos8514 You have just given me an idea about getting Mormons to adopt SK in their afterlife administration of their planet.
12:21 PM
@OOOTLAM
@ZiranofWuWei It doesn't matter. They exist and gentiles are obsessed by them.
12:22 PM
@ZiranofWuWei
Rabbinic Judaism emerged during the 6th - 12th century CE with the codification of the Talmud and asoretic text are medieval production, let that sink in
12:22 PM
@OOOTLAM
@ZiranofWuWei So what?
12:22 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Is it “fair/right” to treat men and women equally under the law? I’ve debated that a lot in my mind!
12:23 PM
@ZiranofWuWei
point being, 6th century CE is not ancient history according to historical chronology
12:23 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
I read that first as “is it far-right” 😅
12:24 PM
@OOOTLAM
@SeekingGenuine It is the greatest injustice to treat unequal things equally. The Koran is certainly not feminist.
12:24 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Law seems to have been made for man…
12:24 PM
@ZiranofWuWei
Historians use the term Yehwists for a reason
12:24 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
And as we adjust for women I think it changes things
12:24 PM
@OOOTLAM
@ZiranofWuWei I only ever heard it from you.
12:24 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
“Fair” is a myth
12:25 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Not saying what’s right and wrong just observing
12:25 PM
@OOOTLAM
@SeekingGenuine Eternal and universal laws are contained in divine revelation.
12:26 PM
@OOOTLAM
While the Noahide laws are contained in the Babylonian Talmud, it is not divine revelation. Honest rabbis would have to say that Islam is more Noahide than Christianity.
12:26 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Is there not a difference between a good woman and a good man
12:26 PM
@βρεττς
Yeah, the problem is nobody trusts people. You gotta trust that God kept his word.
12:26 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
And would that not also call for a different set of rules
12:26 PM
@ZiranofWuWei
well claire, to be fair, you swim with fundamentalist religious fanatics not scholars
12:27 PM
@OOOTLAM
@SeekingGenuine Moral women and moral men should not be rejecting the institution of marriage.
12:27 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
I don’t disagree Claire
12:28 PM
@OOOTLAM
There is only one Abrahamic God but two divine revelations. Gentiles should adopt the divine revelation meant for them.
12:29 PM
@OOOTLAM
@SeekingGenuine You will see that the Koran allows Muslim men to marry Jewesses and Christian women but only allows Muslim women to marry Muslim men.
12:29 PM
@ZiranofWuWei
there is not a single monotheistic God in the Greek Septuagint, that's a theological fallacy...
12:29 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
The NT retcons the OT
12:30 PM
@OOOTLAM
@ZiranofWuWei Academics fear to say anything clearly because they are terrified of losing their position and not without good reason. So why trust a compromised intellectual?
12:31 PM
@OOOTLAM
Perhaps the awful truth for Westerners is that there are no moral men or moral women left. Beta males are as helpless as women if they are deprived of principled leadership.
12:38 PM
@OOOTLAM
Francis Fukuyama was wrong all along in his hubristic thesis.
12:40 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
People are now talking about multipolar world.
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