:16 PM
@chezispero3533
#1
Big L for the west
6:16 PM
@chezispero3533
#1
Israel still better off then before October 7th but worse off from a month ago
6:17 PM
@chezispero3533
#1
Correct it's not clear which itself is a problem
6:18 PM
@sunrhyze
#3
I just feel this is part of a very long term game that we can't understand because we don't have all the pieces
6:18 PM
@zdmc23
word on streets is there are non-public backchannel agreements
6:19 PM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@sunrhyze Brian Berletic of New Atlas has spelled it out already.
6:20 PM
@OOOTLAM
#2
It's US foreign policy that Brian Berletic has spelled out.
6:21 PM
@Musicdude246
All the headlines today are ‘Trump lost the war’ from breaking points to hasan and fox and beyond
6:21 PM
@OOOTLAM
#2
Brian Berletic does say that Israel is an American colony.
6:23 PM
@zdmc23
Trump said syria should deal with hezbollaistas
6:23 PM
@OOOTLAM
#2
US Presidents do not control US foreign policy. They are as helpless as Roman emperors when the Praetorian Guard assassinated Roman emperors whose military policy they disagreed with.
6:23 PM
@sunrhyze
#3
Wow. Francisco at MOR was right, he said the actual US policy has always been preventing Hezbollah from being disarmed. He was right
6:25 PM
@OOOTLAM
#2
George Washington warned against "overgrown military establishments" in his 1796 Farewell Address, stating they are "inauspicious to liberty" and "particularly hostile to Republican Liberty."
6:25 PM
@zdmc23
George washington would have loved mojtaba
6:26 PM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@zdmc23 What makes you say that?
6:27 PM
@zdmc23
@OOOOTLAM i am a heritage american so I can assume such things
6:28 PM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@zdmc23 You mean say weird things and then not explain?
6:28 PM
@zdmc23
@OOOTLAM yes, precisely
6:29 PM
@OOOTLAM
#2
@zdmc23 I have already noticed that Americans mostly talk nonsense.
6:30 PM
@OOOTLAM
#2
The question is why do they do that - neurosis or psychosis?
6:32 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Berletic argues the war against Iran is not an isolated conflict but a calculated component of a broader strategy to restore global hegemony and preemptively weaken potential rivals Russia and China.
6:33 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Berletic : US foreign policy, driven by corporate-financier interests, follows decades-old blueprints (such as the 2009 Which Path to Persia paper) designed to isolate and degrade Eurasian powers.
6:33 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
He views current diplomatic engagements as deceptive pretexts for war, asserting that the conflict in Iran serves as a gateway to direct confrontation with Beijing and Moscow.
6:34 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Strategic Continuity: The current administration is executing long-standing U.S. strategies to topple the Iranian government, which Berletic sees as a prerequisite for isolating Russia and China.
6:34 PM
@ezekielcarsella
Al Sharaa is a very fascinating individual... at least in how his mythos has been built by the American media. I wait to see how it shakes out.
6:34 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Proxy Dynamics: He emphasizes that Israel acts as a U.S. proxy in these operations, allowing the U.S. to maintain plausible deniability while striking Iranian targets.
6:35 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
US cannot accept a multipolar world and is therefore engaged in a multi-domain war (economic and military) against all centers of non-Western power, with Iran being a critical early theater.
6:35 PM
@zdmc23
why did israel never succeed in sowing division among shia and sunni? did they ever try?
6:36 PM
@faturechi
They definitely tried. And to some extent have succeeded more today than ever in the past.
6:39 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Berletic argues against the notion that Israel controls the US, stating that if it were true, "the U.S. would have initiated the attack" and would be "catching ballistic missiles, not the Israelis."
6:40 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Israel is s a proxy for US, noting that US is "happy to volunteer them for a war" even if they suffer catastrophic losses, cos purpose of proxies is to have other people fight and die for your wars.
6:41 PM
@Aae-u7s
""We don't have an alliance with Israel as you know... but we have a bond to Israel that's much stronger. It's a moral commitment. A moral commitment because of what happened during the Holocaust,..."
6:41 PM
@Aae-u7s
" and a moral commitment because it is a democracy. The only democracy in that area...." ~ NIXON
6:42 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
You would expect a proxy of America to use the same political system as America.
6:46 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Daniel is right.
6:47 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Christianity is entirely under the control of the CIA.
6:47 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Has nobody noticed that the American Pope is a CIA appointment?
6:48 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Colonel Wilkerson said on Tucker Carlson that the CIA is looking for an AMERICAN CATHOLIC CHURCH for its nefarious propaganda purposes.
6:48 PM
@lancecleaver227
Welcome Daniel … I am still very skeptical but Daniel certainly has only the viewpoints stressed by detractors and those whose headlines “Trump loses” were written from the beginning
6:49 PM
@zdmc23
@OOOTLAM so CIA is very successful. don't hate the player, hate the game
6:50 PM
@zdmc23
we gotta get to the borders that God promised to abraham
6:50 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Anyone with half a brain should be able to see Christians are discouraged from thinking. They have to switch off their brains and pray to Jesus when they are upset, not think, or talk or act.
6:50 PM
@lancecleaver227
I do appreciate these streams Jacob … trying to filter through the crap of mainline propaganda
6:50 PM
@PeterPenroseBach
England is under Muslim assault, is this a win?
6:50 PM
@ezekielcarsella
turkey being forced out of the f-35 program will only improve its positioning as being self reliant
6:51 PM
@ezekielcarsella
IMO Israel is in the eastern Med/levant not realistically the whole middle east
6:55 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
When Christians switch off their brains and pray to Jesus - which is idolatry - and bad things happen, they blame Jews and Muslims. That is how they roll. This is how bigotry hurts bigots.
6:55 PM
@Bush_Concepts
Just based on the title what hasn’t trump given the Levant and Middle East
6:56 PM
@zdmc23
the trouble you have in modern missile and drone swarm attacks is a lack of land
6:57 PM
@Aae-u7s
jacob ...LOL. No. Israel is a powerhouse.
6:59 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Christians have to switch off their brains to stay Christian. Corruption is ignoring truth. Christians operate through hate, fear and denial. This is particularly unforgivable in Americans.
7:01 PM
@sunrhyze
#3
Seems like US policy is to make sure Israel survives but also is always in danger. Hezbollah is never disarmed despite all the big talk going back decades
7:02 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
There is absolutely no way you can make the average American care who their government murders and maims in their name. You cannot expect much from people who don't understand their own history.
7:02 PM
@lancecleaver227
Jacob don’t you know Israel is the dog wagging it’s USA tail ;)
7:02 PM
@Bush_Concepts
This would be an interesting discussion to have with Dyer
7:02 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@sunrhyze Israel is the perfect weapons testing ground.
7:02 PM
@sunrhyze
#3
Francisco Gil White writes about this on his Substack, Management of Reality
7:03 PM
@lancecleaver227
I love watching the Chezi and Jacob flesh things out … helps me to see the nuances
7:03 PM
@sunrhyze
#2
I didn't believe him but it's playing out, even with Trump. Even with Trump
7:06 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
If you think any US President has any control over US foreign policy, you don't understand the Military Industrial Complex Washington warned Americans against all those years ago.
7:06 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
@Bush_Concepts Jay Dyer?
7:08 PM
@YawnGod
Iran lost. This is what Iran losing looks like.
7:10 PM
@YawnGod
@sunrhyze Well, first we need to wait until Friday. Friday Friday Friday.
7:11 PM
@Aae-u7s
GREATER ISRAEL 👍
7:11 PM
@Aae-u7s
Assuming Euphrates also includes Tigris.
7:12 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
@Aae-u7s Greater Israel already exists when you consider the Gulf Kingdoms who are but US vassal states.
7:12 PM
@Aae-u7s
Cairo, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia = Greater Israel
7:12 PM
@YawnGod
Ahem...Greater Israel is a conspiracy theory. 🤔
7:12 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
Everywhere on earth is the backyard of Uncle Sam.
7:12 PM
@Aae-u7s
s@OfficialSecularKoranism i see your point.
7:12 PM
@YawnGod
Israel pioneers AI for no reason, Jacob.
7:14 PM
@sunrhyze
#2
To be fair, Jacob, we have plenty of wackos in the US military also
7:15 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@Aae-u7s Thank you for your understanding and acknowledgement.
7:15 PM
@marcfishbein2283
Here's a wild thought experiment. What would have to be true for "Greater Israel" to actually be plausible?
7:15 PM
@Bush_Concepts
Does Frankish Judaism still exist at all only recently learned about the Herasy
7:15 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Zionism is an Anglo-American Imperial Project.
7:15 PM
@AdamDylanMajor
well, no more Arabs can make greater Israel possible
7:16 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@faturechi Not heard of the Wolfowitz Doctrine?
7:16 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@faturechi Not heard of FULL SPECTRUM GLOBAL DOMINANCE?
7:16 PM
@AdamDylanMajor
Arabs cannot be governed by Israelis
7:17 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
How many US military bases are there in the Middle East?
7:17 PM
@YawnGod
#3
They say that if the deal goes through and Israel keeps attacking Lebanon...the US will stand down? 🤔 Impossible.
7:18 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
The US maintains a military presence across at least 19 sites in the Middle East. Of these installations, 8 are classified as permanent bases.
7:18 PM
@Bush_Concepts
2/3s of America just do whatever gives them social credit
7:19 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
The remainder are categorized as "enduring" or "contingency" outposts that can expand or contract based on operational needs.
7:19 PM
@Stephen.D20
1/3! Thats a lot of Noahides!
7:19 PM
@sunrhyze
#3
Oh, most Americans wouldn't be able to name our own states on an unlabeled map
7:19 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Americans don't give a shit about the countries they bomb and destroy. They just turn the page and talk about sport.
7:21 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Permanent bases are located in Bahrain, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates (UAE).
7:22 PM
@YawnGod
#2
I mean, if Israel not a regional power yet, how long will it take for it to become the Light for the Nations? 🤔
7:22 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Additionally, the U.S. operates significant facilities in Syria, Oman, and Israel (via joint exercises, though no permanent base exists there.
7:23 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
There are large bases in Turkey and Djibouti that support regional operations under different commands. This network supports approximately 40,000 to 50,000 U.S. troops stationed in the region.
7:25 PM
@YawnGod
#2
How does the UK exercise its power given it's so small and puny?
7:25 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@faturechi You don't understand that the sacred belief of antisemites is that Jews are to blame The longer they have blamed Jews, the less likely they are to revise their opinion.
7:26 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@YawnGod The UK is a US missile base.
7:27 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@faturechi Modi is a CIA stooge. He doesn't even speak English FFS!
7:27 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Christian Zionists = BOOMERS
7:29 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@faturechi You don't understand the mind of the antisemite. If you cannot prove your innocence, you are guilty.
7:31 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Christianity is an anachronism because absolute monarchy is an anachronism.
7:31 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Niall Ferguson is a big fat neocon.
7:33 PM
@AnthonyRuggier-k9s
Jacob, the UN is a CIA psyop
7:33 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
America is most afraid of Islam ahahaha ...
7:34 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Iranians should insist on regime change in the US, and insist on SK USA ahahahaha
7:41 PM
@lkae4
US has been sneaking oil out of the strait
7:42 PM
@Bush_Concepts
Suprise suprise capitalistic oligarchs are playing nations like the stock market gambling with human lives
@AnthonyRuggier-k9s
I petition Israel to be renamed Judah
8:10 PM
@lafamigliabazzani499
Can you do a deal in the ME without Kayfabe?
8:16 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Democracy in Israel is a sham.
8:27 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Americans do not deserve to have a foreign policy.
8:27 PM
@ezekielcarsella
Claire you don't have a veto on american affairs
8:27 PM
@AnthonyRuggier-k9s
#3
they deserve Secular Koranism
8:27 PM
@AnthonyRuggier-k9s
#3
the Final Solution to the Christian Problem
8:27 PM
@huggabumba7519
americans deserve to have it all
8:29 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ezekielcarsella Just making the point AGAIN that Americans don't give a shit who their government maims and murders in their name so it is time to take representative democracy out with the trash.
8:30 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Then unofficial religion of America is antisemitism.
8:31 PM
@chezispero3533
#2
We share major interests
8:31 PM
@huggabumba7519
underselling it jacob
8:31 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Fake Christianity makes Americans stupid and scared.
8:31 PM
@Bush_Concepts
Indeed
8:32 PM
@Bush_Concepts
Orthodox Christianity all the way
8:32 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Orthoboneheads will be boneheads.
8:32 PM
@ezekielcarsella
you have no base, claire
8:33 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ezekielcarsella You mean Christians are stuck on Jesus worship while hating Jews?
8:33 PM
@AnthonyRuggier-k9s
Secular Koranism is the true faith
8:33 PM
@AnthonyRuggier-k9s
the pure DIN
8:33 PM
@ezekielcarsella
Claire, you don't even have 12 followers like Jesus
8:33 PM
@AnthonyRuggier-k9s
the Salaf al Salih
8:34 PM
@chezispero3533
#2
Correct it's a miracle of technology and they are still having babies
8:34 PM
@almondtree
Jews Farming ™
8:34 PM
@chezispero3533
#2
We supply much of Jorden's water
8:34 PM
@huggabumba7519
israel makes those amazing pool robots
8:35 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ezekielcarsella Yeah, because facts and logic are hateful to Jesus worshipers who hate Jews.
8:36 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ezekielcarsella Are you Christian?
8:36 PM
@ezekielcarsella
I am, Claire.
8:36 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ezekielcarsella That explains everything.
8:43 PM
@sunrhyze
#3
I believe there are lots of people stupid enough and indoctrinated enough to vote for Hunter Biden
8:44 PM
@almondtree
Hi randos United. Who is this?
8:44 PM
@AnthonyRuggier-k9s
Questions, did you vote for Obama in 2008?
8:44 PM
@Bush_Concepts
At this point hunter biden would be the only who wouldn’t lie to you he’d probably run his campaign on not going to jail for drug abuse
8:46 PM
@huggabumba7519
jacob is azionist
8:46 PM
@AnthonyRuggier-k9s
Jacob is loyal to the Pahlavi Dynasty and the Nation of the Aryans
8:48 PM
@almondtree
A rendezvous with Claire Khaw?
8:49 PM
@AnthonyRuggier-k9s
sovereignty is non-negotiable
8:52 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Why wouldn't Jews say Israel has a right to exist when it has the unwavering support of America?
8:54 PM
@sunrhyze
#3
voter turnout is a recurring problem
8:55 PM
@ezekielcarsella
This is tikkun olam
8:56 PM
@AnthonyRuggier-k9s
Kamala Harris followed Tikkun Olam
8:56 PM
@Bush_Concepts
1st What do you mean by nation. 2nd what nation has a right to exist
8:56 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@randosunited_1 Oh yes, so I did.
8:57 PM
@Bush_Concepts
I don’t know of any nation that has the same right to exist that all humans have a right to life
8:57 PM
@randosunited_1
I’m helping people see you as a helper 😇
8:57 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
I think Jews are terribly confused about their identity.
8:57 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@randosunited_1 I am but a Humble Usherette.
8:58 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
I suppose normal people are people you don't know very well. It's just as well I am interested in psychology.
8:58 PM
@huggabumba7519
the dolphin nautilus pool cleaning robot is a breakthrough in automated pool care
8:59 PM
@huggabumba7519
and is made in israel
8:59 PM
@ezekielcarsella
You are interested in destroying male's psychology, claire
8:59 PM
@AnthonyRuggier-k9s
Claire opinions on the Ikhwan?
8:59 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
I was very pleased I spotted a Reform Jew today.
9:00 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@ezekielcarsella Western men need to give up the religion of women and slaves.
9:00 PM
@AnthonyRuggier-k9s
Claire, where does the Muslim Brotherhood stand in the Secular Koranist view?
9:01 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@AnthonyRuggier-k9s I disapprove of Wahhabism.
9:01 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@AnthonyRuggier-k9s Muslim Brotherhood are has-beens who never were.
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