Saturday, 20 June 2026

Celebrating Juneteenth is celebrating political parties, defying God, the ever-expanding welfare state that is eating American taxpayers out of house and home and the American Civil War

 

11:53 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​I would encourage people to defend their beliefs and show their colours, if they have any! It is the fact that they have no moral convictions that is so alarming.

11:55 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
​You’re not wrong, Roger. Juneteenth seems like a day worth celebrating for all Americans.

11:55 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@RogerDodgerEsq I still can't get over the fact that Olson supports Shari for saying that there is no difference between surviving and thriving. His mind is a jelly without a mould.

11:56 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@stefaniecristos8514 You might not want to celebrate if it you are a Southerner and are of the view that God did not forbid slavery.

11:56 AM
@SeekingGenuine
​​@RDE, not sure if this tracks, but I feel like there is a constant inappropriate relationship with “sensitivity” and making light of things or how things are expressed in western culture

11:57 AM
@SeekingGenuine
​​We are not great as speaking to or relating to that which we don’t understand

11:57 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@SeekingGenuine You could always ask questions if you do not understand!

11:57 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
​Claire, I surely hope there are not many people of that mindset left. But it is worth exploring the source of the cynicism.

11:58 AM
@SeekingGenuine
​​Claire, I totally agree. But you have to be listening and paying attention to ask questions. And people are addicted to covering their eyes

11:58 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@stefaniecristos8514 God forbade a long list of things, but He did not forbid slavery! Shouldn't we take His laws seriously?

11:59 AM
@βρεττς
​​It just be nice if we didn’t blame slow news travel of the day to call out racism. Can’t we just all celebrate the day and appreciate that. We arrived there and celebrate it.

11:59 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@SeekingGenuine We must tell the difference between people taking their turns to speak and having a dialogue!

11:59 AM
@Eolson-helper
​​Rob- I think we should celebrate freedom, and Juneteenth seems like a good thing to celebrate.

12:00 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​Celebrating Juneteenth is celebrating the American Civil War, isn't it?

12:01 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​We are still the slaves of our government, aren't we?

12:02 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#3
​@RogerDodgerEsq Olson can be very easily led.

12:02 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​I stood up to you claire

12:03 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
​Not all of us are practiced debaters. I need time to process before deciding if/how to respond.

12:03 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@RogerDodgerEsq What would George Washington have said about the American Civil War? "I told you so for not starting political parties!"

12:04 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@stefaniecristos8514 Asking a question gives you time to think.

12:05 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​rob - I am sorry you are used to being told that. but I do think celebrating when people where actually freed from slavery is a good thing.

12:05 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​People think being a good debater means making long speeches. The power of the question is often ignored. People remember the question which is only one sentence.

12:06 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@RogerDodgerEsq If we believe in God, we are His slaves, are we not?

12:07 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@RogerDodgerEsq It drives me crazy how Americans refuse to read George Washington's farewell speech. I have been trying for years!

12:07 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​@RogerDodgerEsq Whigs won the Civil War.

12:11 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Eolson-helper You should stand up for truth and reject nonsense eg thriving and surviving are the same. Ridiculous!

12:24 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@RogerDodgerEsq Olson is afraid to have a proper conversation with me and adopts all kinds of obvious stratagems to appear to talk to me but to not take any of my points and then claim to have won.

12:25 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@RogerDodgerEsq Earlier, he tried to patronise the F out of me by treating me like a naughty child. He is only ignoring his moral imperative.

12:25 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​Claire - I gave you a chance to speak with me today. You decided to get mad and cuss me out and then leave. I am sorry you felt that way.

12:26 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​Claire- you want me to show back bone, but when I do you get mad at me :)

12:26 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Eolson-helper You're too much of a coward to feature the conversation between Megan and me.

12:26 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Eolson-helper You won't be man enough to come to my channel to talk to me.

12:27 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​It has nothing to do with cowardice and everything to do with your actions.

12:27 PM
@danjaasma2305
​​Where do you live, Chris?

12:27 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Eolson-helper But to be fair so was Scott not man enough to discuss what Megan and I said, except to damn it with faint praise.

12:28 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​The chat is more fun than the stream, sometimes.

12:28 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​Claire - so if we praise it we are damned?

12:28 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Eolson-helper Praise what?

12:29 PM
@danjaasma2305
​​What was this spicy stream yesterday that you speak of?

12:29 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​"scott...except to damn it with faint praise"

12:29 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​Chad - I would be the one getting slapped

12:30 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Eolson-helper Megan has more balls than Scott and Olson since we actually had a dialogue. What are you two so afraid of?

12:31 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@RogerDodgerEsq You are a indeed a wise man.

12:32 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@teestrypzSOG Is thriving the same as surviving as Shari claimed on O G Rose?

12:32 PM
@anselman3156
#1
​Chrysalis was a record label as I remember

12:32 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#2
​Roger, what livestream did this chat happen on? Luke’s? Jacob’s?

12:32 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@anselman3156 The Doors had that label.

12:34 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​Claire- I gave you a chance. You got mad and left. Who was the coward?

12:34 PM
@RogerDodgerEsq
​​@stef If I recall, I believe across multiple streams throughout the day

12:34 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@stefaniecristos8514 Glad you're back. I have just emailed Megan about discussing the American Civil War. I am very interested in American history!

12:34 PM
@anselman3156
#1
​I still have some old vinyl of that label Secular. Vinyl seems to be making a comeback

12:35 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Eolson-helper I made my point. No need to hang around after that. What do you find so scary about Truth, Logic and Morality?

12:36 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​Claire - I might ask you the same question. We were there talking about Truth, logic, and morality. You left.

12:36 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Eolson-helper Why don't you do a stream about how you agree with Shari about surviving and thriving being one and the same thing? You could invite Shari!

12:37 PM
@anselman3156
#1
​Monks Anselm, Bede, Bernard etc have good writings worth reading today

12:37 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#2
​Claire, it may surprise you, but I wasn’t alive back then. 😊. I watched Ken Burns this documentary on PBS history.

12:37 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@Eolson-helper After I made my point, you just changed the subject, which is typical.

12:38 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​@stefaniecristos8514 I unashamedly make the point that slavery should never have been abolished because it was the ancient form of workfare and social security.

12:38 PM
@anselman3156
#2
​It is a thought just how much valuable wisdom was not written down or conserved

12:39 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​Claire - you didn't make a point except that you thought i should be involved in lewd acts. I didn't want to continue that conversation.

12:39 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
​There is a verse the Koran that warns people not to forbid what God has allowed nor allow what God has forbidden. Slavery is not forbidden in either the Bible or Koran.

12:40 PM
@anselman3156
​#2
​I have lots of scribblings over the years I think are quite reasonable and helpful for relatives to inherit but I guess could end up in the dump when I pass

12:40 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Eolson-helper I made the point that surviving and thriving are two separate and distinct concepts and that you are an easily led man too cowardly to feature the conversations between Megan and me.

12:40 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​Rob - what do you think about Claire's promotion of slavery?

12:41 PM
@Eolson-helper
#3
​Claire - you don't listen. that's your problem. I never once said they are the same. You jumped to conclusions and didnt listen to the rest of the show. You just like to call me names...

12:42 PM
@anselman3156
​​The awesome thought is that God conserves each one of our personal histories

12:43 PM
@Eolson-helper
#3
​Claire - I will never play that video. I will not be held captive to people who act in the manner you have with me. I am taking a stand. You should be proud! :)

12:44 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Eolson-helper You told some long story about your aunt and said you agreed with Shari that surviving is the same as thriving.

12:44 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Eolson-helper Did you watch either of them?

12:46 PM
@Eolson-helper
​#3
​Claire - wow, you're making fun of my processing the life and passing of my dead aunt who had Huntington's disease? And No, I did not say I agreed with Shari. In fact i said I initially ​'revolted against it' but that as I wrestled with it more I felt there was some wisdom there. Finding wisdom in something does not mean I agree with something.

12:48 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Eolson-helper Are you not answering my question about whether you viewed my two streams with Megan?


12:48 PM
@Eolson-helper
#3
​I have viewed them

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