Is this person blaming Jews?
I think it is a shame that he is now obviously too frightened to say so in so many words which is why he is using all kinds of convoluted phraseology to disguise the fact that he blames Jews.
I would actually prefer it if he said so, so that his issues can be addressed, instead of the neurotic unfolding of this exchange.
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PERSON I THINK IS BLAMING JEWS
I don't predict hyperinflation in the US. The current inflation is caused by the true rise in value of commodities relative to US dollars or any other commodity-- a function of supply and demand. If most goods are shipped thousands of miles across the continent by diesel-powered trucks and it costs a truck driver $1000 to fill the tank of his refrigerated truck, that increase in delivery costs alone will be passed on to the consumer.
The cause of this inflation is an artificial decrease in fuel supply. What's more likely than hyperinflation is a (real) annual inflation rate in the range of 20-30%. This would be right in line with that of any third world country, which the US has become.
CK
How to stop America becoming Third World?
PERSON I THINK IS BLAMING JEWS
why don't you just ask me to post my address so that after I answer your question, people can come along and burn my house down?
CK
So you think the problem with America is to do with the people you wish would leave? That means you are complaining about the symptoms without the understanding the cause of the disease.
PERSON I THINK IS BLAMING JEWS
the cause is the change in our immigration law that happened in 1965
CK
For which you blame Jews?
PERSON I THINK IS BLAMING JEWS
lol. No, to blame an entire race of people for policy changes from last century would be absurd. Look up the Hart-Celler Act of 1965. While Emanuel Celler was Jewish, this is thought by most to be incidental.
CK
So the problem was liberalism?
PERSON I THINK IS BLAMING JEWS
A series of events happened in the late 1960s to early 1970s-- the Vietnam War, the sexual revolution, feminism, demographic changes, civil rights movement, abandoning the gold standard, legalized abortion, etc. The foundations were put into place to build a new society where the original one once stood. Now, they're just nailing the shingles on the roof.
CK
Do you blame any individual or group?
PERSON I THINK IS BLAMING JEWS
Blame is the key word-- liberals argue about whom to credit for these changes! The Right points its finger in various directions. It's hard to say. I'd like to keep an open mind about whom to blame. Quite frankly, White people as a group are ultimately to blame for permitting a gradual erosion of their way of life for the sake of adopting a new and arguably alien set of liberal values.
CK
What alien set of liberal values?
PERSON I THINK IS BLAMING JEWS
Doesn't your mainstream media drill them into your head? Democracy, diversity, inclusion, equality, communism, multiculturalism, consumerism, globalism. None of these are traditionalist American values. Anyone who thinks that is either under 40 or attended our State funded "educational" institutions.
CK
Liberalism has changed over the centuries, has it not?
Are you saying "democracy, diversity, inclusion, equality, communism, multiculturalism, consumerism, globalism" are not Western? If so, which part of the world do you think these ideas come from?
PERSON I THINK IS BLAMING JEWS
Are you saying that an idea is a cultural value because people from that culture originated it? That's the logical fallacy (the Greeks invented those) called the genetic fallacy. I never said "Western"-- I choose my words carefully.
CK
I don't know what you mean by "genetic fallacy". Are not American values "Western"? Are you suggesting that Jews might be to blame for the list you described as an "alien set of liberals values" ie democracy, diversity, inclusion, equality, communism, multiculturalism, consumerism, globalism?
PERSON I THINK IS BLAMING JEWS
studying logic wouldn't kill you
CK
How have I been illogical?
PERSON I THINK IS BLAMING JEWS
I wish you were illogical; then I could point out the logical fallacies-- you're not even that. Your questions are inane and maddening: "Are you suggesting that Jews might be.." Here's a question for you: If you were Lord Octopus, would you wrap your testicles around my throat and purple?
Or are you just straw manning or trolling? Where are Jews mentioned in my OP? Where am I suggesting something about them in my replies? You need to organize your thoughts. Pay attention. This is why I don't debate women generally.
CK
How have I been illogical though?
I have never heard of an"alien set of liberal values" and asked you to clarify. You said they were "Democracy, diversity, inclusion, equality, communism, multiculturalism, consumerism, globalism". You said these were not "traditionalist American values". Then you started talking about "genetic fallacy", a term I found puzzling, which you refused to clarify so I wondered if you meant Jews, which you refuse to confirm or deny, and now you are angry with me!
I think you do mean Jews and don't want to admit this. If not, perhaps you mean the "managerial elite"?
Joel Davis:
'Sam Francis also isn't afraid to name the Jew, the reality of Jewish Power isn't a "conspiracy theory" - its a structural feature.
..because the new managerial elite rejects and destroys the mechanisms of the old elite that excluded other ethnic, racial, and religious groups, such groups are often able to permeate the managerial power structure and acquire levels of power unavailable to them in pre-managerial society and to advance their own interests and agendas by means of the managerial instruments of power. These ethnic forces, articulating their own strong racial, ethnic, cultural, or religious consciousness, invoke managerial liberal slogans of “equality,” “tolerance,” “diversity,” etc., to challenge traditional white dominance but increasingly aspire to cultural and political supremacy themselves, excluding whites and rejecting and dismantling the institutional fabric of their society.
Kevin MacDonald has documented in immense detail how Jewish groups seeking to advance their own ethnically based agendas have accomplished this, and since a central part of those agendas include the eradication of the historic ethnic, racial, and religious barriers and beliefs that excluded Jews and were perceived as leading to their persecution, the Jewish agenda and that of the managerial elite are in this respect perfectly congruent with each other. Indeed, so prominent have Jews become within the elite (especially its cultural sector) that it is fair to say that Jews within the managerial elite serve as the cultural vanguard of the managerial class, providing ideological justification of its structure and policies, disseminating its ideological formulas to the mass population, formulating and often implementing specific policies, and providing much of the specialized educational training essential to the transmission and perpetuation of the technocratic skills of the elite. In this respect, Jews perform a support function (in this case, a cultural and ideological one rather than tax-collecting or money-lending) for the largely non-Jewish elite similar to those they performed for various European aristocracies in the past.
Thus the emergence of “neo-conservatism” in recent decades reflects not only the Jewish interests and identities of its principal formulators and exponents but also, unlike the older conservatism of the pre-managerial elite, the interests of the managerial class as a whole in conserving the new political and cultural order that class has created but rejecting and dismantling the pre-managerial order the older conservatism sought to defend.
The managerial elite, however, also has allied with other ethnic and racial groups, most of which share its interest in eliminating white racial identity and the cultural forces that support it. Like the Jewish allies of the elite and the elite itself, these non-white groups seek to eradicate white racial identity and its institutional expression, but unlike the elite, they also often seek to promote their own racial consciousness and identity. Thus, while explicitly white racial identity is virtually forbidden and strictly punished by the managerial elite, institutions that reflect explicit nonwhite or anti-white identities are tolerated and encouraged.
In effect, the alliance between racially conscious non-white forces and the rising managerial elite in the last century represents a managerial partnership with a historical process that originally was entirely separate and different from the managerial revolution..the non-white racial forces with which it allied rejected white racial supremacy and identity in part to revolt against and overthrow (“liberate” themselves from) white domination (a phase of the racial revolution generally called by the benign label of the “civil rights movement”) but in part also to pursue their own racial power and aspirations.'
- What is "the new managerial elite"?
- Who are "the new managerial elite" and can you name a member of this group?
- What are "the mechanisms of the old elite"?
- What was the "old elite"?
- Who are the "old elite" and can you name a member of this group?
- Can you describe the "managerial power structure"?
- How did Jews "acquire levels of power unavailable to them in "pre-managerial society"?
- What were these new levels of power?
- When did "pre-managerial society" end?
- What are "the managerial instruments of power"?
- When you refer to the "ethnically based agendas" of Jewish groups with the purpose of the "eradication of the historic ethnic, racial, and religious barriers and beliefs that excluded Jews and were perceived as leading to their persecution", do you mean Christianity and patriarchy?
- When you talk about Jews "implementing specific policies" as the "cultural vanguard of the managerial class", what policies do you mean?
- When you refer to "the technocratic skills of the elite", what skills do you mean?
- What do you understand by neoconservatism?
- How does neoconservatism "reflect Jewish interests and identities"?
- What is the "older conservatism"?
- Who were the "pre-managerial elite"?
- What are the interests of "the managerial class"?
- What is the "managerial class"?
- Who are the "managerial class"?
- What is the "new political and cultural order"?
- What is "pre-managerial order the older conservatism sought to defend"?
- When was the "pre-managerial order" rejected and dismantled?
- Who represented this "older conservatism£ and can you name one of its members?
- When you say "the managerial elite", do you mean Jews?
- Which racial and ethnic group share the interest of Jews "in eliminating white racial identity and the cultural forces that support it"?
- Which of "these non-white groups seek to eradicate white racial identity and its institutional expression"?
- Can you name a non-white group seeking to "eradicate white racial identity and its institutional expression"?
- Can you give an example of this "institutional expression" of white racial identity such a group is seeking to eradicate?
- Can you give an example of an "institutional expression" of white racial identity which has been "strictly punished by the managerial elite"?
- Which "institutions that reflect explicit nonwhite or anti-white identities are tolerated and encouraged"?
- What is the "managerial revolution" and when did this revolution take place?
- What is the "historical process" to which you refer "that originally was entirely separate and different from the managerial revolution"?
