10:31 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#3
could you please define what you mean by "world"?
10:33 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#3
longing is a human desire
10:40 AM
@Eolson-helper
#1
That’s beautiful Scott!
10:42 AM
@Eolson-helper
#1
*in reference to your relationship with your wife.
10:51 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#3
recommend you watch OG's recent video, S2, E33, 'Grasping of a People.' He drives home the difference between a shared belief vs how to process. ie the tension between Greek vs Latin concepts of truth
11:03 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#3
I love how OG starts off the video referencing PVK & TLC, rubbing his eyes 👀, so that way you know he is talking to you specifically, because hos last couple videos he spoke over your heads.. lol
11:07 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat PVK is a materialist saying people are more important than theology and therefore principles. He is basically an atheist masquerading as Christian.
11:08 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat There is an additional weakness to Christian beliefs: their conception of the afterlife.
11:09 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat Christians have very low antinomian standards of entry and then dread the idea of sharing heaven with their enemies ie other hypocrites claiming to be Christian.
11:11 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#3
Claire, that is the point OG was trying to address, because TLC is stuck in Protestent propositional tyranny land
11:11 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
Christians either think no one gets to heaven or everyone gets to heaven which they find morally repellent. Then they become atheists while hiding their atheism.
11:12 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat Christians have been lying to themselves since the 4th century.
11:12 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat Surely the proposition of Christianity is the Trinity?
11:13 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
If your entire belief is based on an unprovable absurdity ie the Trinity, you will have virtually no convictions. That's why the church had to practise heretic burnning.
11:15 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
The important thing to note is that PVK is an atheist more interested in promoting his channel than telling the truth to his feeble minded viewers and subscribers who want to identify as Christian.
11:15 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#2
yes, cults are difficult to unculture. ive been trying to reason with a group of Rastafarians, who are stuck on romantic legends and conflate and flatten history to force everything to fit their myths
11:16 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat You can't really call a world religion a cult though. Christianity is undoubtedly a world religion with three global empires under its belt.
11:18 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat Christianity should be called the World War Religion. If WW3 breaks out, it will be started by Christians again. Christians should also be told to call their deity "Trinity".
11:19 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#2
sure you can, just larger in scale than the typical conception of small group on the coutskirts of the homogenized societal ingroup, but if the cap fits, let them wear it.
11:19 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat It's the easiest thing to prove that Christianity is the religion of atheists, hypocrites, idolaters and blasphemers.
11:20 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#2
There is no one socalled "Christianity", and never has been. That is an abstract hyperobject that makes them feel bigger or more powerful than they actually are.
11:21 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat Cults are not necessarily evil or inferior. World religions start off as cults. Idolatry is key to identifying idolatrous hypocrites indifferent to God's laws.
11:22 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat Christianity is one of the Abrahamic religions guilty of the unforgivable sin of associating partners with God. Idolaters are fundamentally irrational and amoral.
11:22 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#2
the definition of "world religion" is used in comparative religion to oversimplify in order to make comparisons, but in reality there are thousands of denominations that continue to schism
11:23 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat The most powerful denominations are Trinitarian ie Catholicism, Anglicanism/Episcopalianism, Orthodox Christianity and Calvinism.
11:24 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#2
eg Judaism is a series of various religious traditions and further sub divisions, not a single ethnicity nor monoculture
11:24 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#2
eg Anglicanism is divided into hundreds of separate denominations
11:24 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat We can only talk about the most powerful churches, for practical purposes.
11:25 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat Judaism is known for its position against idolatry. Jews have no official religious leader though.
11:26 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#2
but that's the point, Canterbury's early modern tools of the Anglican Communion are irrelevant in present age, as they are not a single socalled "Church"
11:26 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat The most powerful church in the world is the Church of England because of British imperialism and the British monarch.
11:26 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#2
There is no single socalled "Judaism"
11:27 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat So still identify as Christian and wish to do so?
11:27 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat The Jews considered most righteous are the ones who take idolatry seriously.
11:27 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#2
I think you are missing my point, the Canterbury doesn't control the hundreds of Anglican denominations
11:28 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat Only the Shias have a Supreme Leader.
11:29 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat There is no accountable leadership in any of the world religions. The Pope in practice submits to the liberal order run by the principles of intersectionality.
11:29 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#2
even shias have sub groups and are not a single organizational entity
11:30 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#2
even Catholics are not a single entity, there are those outside of the socalled Communion and further divisions within
11:30 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat The Archbishop of Canterbury in practice submits to the British monarch who is just told what to do by the House of Commons.
11:31 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat Catholics have to submit to the Pope. Nobody obeys the rules.
11:32 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat Iran is a theocracy with a Supreme Leader. That is good enough for me. Iranian Muslims are closer to having accountable leadership than the other Abrahamic religions.
11:35 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#1
the term "cult" has historically meant a system of religious worship, it is now frequently used to describe unorthodox groups
11:36 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#1
who decides what is "orthodox" (rhetorical)?
11:40 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@TonyTigerGreat Scripture, tradition and consensus.
11:40 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
All this is rearranging the deckchairs. The Titanic hit the iceberg 250 years ago, if not before.
11:41 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
@bibliobison Scott has some powers of deduction.
11:42 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#2
Anglican three legged stool metaphor is Scripture (the Bible), Tradition (the historic practice and creeds of the church), and Reason (human critical thinking and intellect).
11:43 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
#3
@TonyTigerGreat Would you agree that Christians are functionally atheist?
11:43 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#2
ie Richard Hooker
11:44 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#2
well, I would probably avoid referring to Christianity as a single monoculture
11:45 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#2
Bison, we dont know what Scott is alluding either, he is speaking in cryptic abstract language
11:45 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
#2
@TonyTigerGreat Christians are supposed to believe in the Trinity, aren't they?
11:46 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
#2
Scott is saying goodbye to TLC.
11:47 AM
@TonyTigerGreat
#3
Roman Christendom was historically founded with a series of councils that debate said topic
11:47 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
#2
It's going to be a long goodbye though.
11:48 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
#2
@TonyTigerGreat Why drink milk contaminated with fecal matter when you could drink homogenised milk?
11:48 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
#2
@TonyTigerGreat Looks like you don't care about the idolatry of the Trinity either.
11:53 AM
@TrinnyConstantine
#2
@TonyTigerGreat You could just tell her about SK USA!
12:00 PM
@TonyTigerGreat
griz will give you the klan goodbye
12:00 PM
@TrinnyConstantine
#1
Scott has to look after Number One.
12:01 PM
@TonyTigerGreat
moral of the story, dont bring strange women home from the internet unless they're ai bot ladies
12:01 PM
@TrinnyConstantine
#1
Christians only pretend to believe in the afterlife.
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